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Lucha Libre USA: Wrestling Series Spins Anti-Immigrant Storyline To Connect With Latino Fans (VIDEO)

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First Posted: 09/30/11 08:20 AM ET Updated: 11/29/11 05:12 AM ET

John Stagikas isn't a xenophobe, but he plays one on TV. In real life, he's a former real estate agent and dog trainer from Massachusetts. But unlike most actors, Stagikas can't say who he actually is. That's because these days he is playing RJ Brewer -- the antagonist in a Mexican wrestling series on MTV 2 called Lucha Libre USA.

Stagikas, like many professional wrestlers, must play by the industry rules of "kayfabe," which say that stars cannot break character when off-camera or outside of the ring. So when Stagikas sat down with HuffPost LatinoVoices for an interview earlier this week, he arrived as his character RJ Brewer, the son of Gov. Jan Brewer of Arizona. Throughout the interview RJ Brewer touted the strengths of his "mother's" controversial immigration enforcement law, SB1070, and made clear his disdain for the other Mexican wrestlers in his own wrestling troupe. Unmasking fellow wrestlers, ending all lucha libre-style wrestling, and deporting those who "cheated and lied their way in to get here," are Brewer's primary goals in the show.

"There's no room for guys hiding behind masks in wrestling. I mean, clearly they're hiding something," Brewer insisted.

When asked about the irony of an anti-immigrant character wrestling in a Mexican-style company, Brewer said, "Even though it kills me to enter the world of lucha libre, I have to enter it, and I have to change things, and hopefully when it's said and done, it won't be lucha libre anymore."

"Duty calls, and as an American citizen, I just have to go and finish my mother's work," he added.

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"Lucha Libre USA," the first English language "lucha-style" pro-wrestling show in the U.S., has a mostly Latino audience. Creators say that lucha libre is the second most popular sport in Mexico, after soccer. Because of its popularity, they manage to sell out a 3,000-seat arena for every taping of the show. CEO Steven Ship and Creative Director Alex Abrahantes wrote Brewer's villainous character because, they said, they believed it would resonate with the audience.

"I think any time you see something that's happening in the real world and then you mix it with what we're doing -- it's gonna make people wanna watch. Whether we're parodying something, or whether we're mirroring something, it's something that's interesting to people right now," said Abrahantes.

For Ship, the story lines are also a way to bring humor to a serious issue. "The majority of the media treats it in a very serious manner -- but there's no reason it can't also be sort of highlighted in a satirical manner at the same time," he said.

Both men believe story arcs that are inspired by the political climate make for more exciting matches and better ratings. Abrahantes, however, learned this lesson the hard way when he himself was a pro-wrestler and was cast as an Iranian.

"I really do empathize with RJ and the reaction you get from people," Abrahantes said. "You know, part of your job as a sports entertainer is to strike those chords with people, and if you can do that, then you're doing your job."

However, sometimes striking chords with people can dangerous, warned the show's CEO.

"Fans line up and get to meet with all the wrestlers after shows, but RJ doesn't partake in that, for his own security reasons," Ship said. "When he walks on stage he gets a legitimate negative reaction, because they understand what he's about, they understand who he is, and they don't like him. So we have to be careful about where we take him, because of the reaction he provokes in people."

Polarizing story lines are nothing new to the world of pro-wrestling, but other aspects of Lucha Libre USA are certainly novel for American audiences. The show markets itself as "not your grandparent's pro-wrestling," because, creators say, it stays true to Mexican lucha-style fighting. Unlike American pro-wrestling, Lucha Libre USA features masked wrestlers, male wrestlers in drag called "Exóticos," female wrestlers called "Chica Stars," and "Mini Estrellas," who are often "mini" versions of other wrestlers.

And the "Mini Estrellas," explains Abrahantes, are really what sets Lucha Libre USA apart.

"Our 'minis' are super high flying and athletic. A 'mini' match here in the U.S. -- it's nowhere near as competitive. It's a comedic guest bit, for American wrestling. But in Mexico it's a huge honor to have a 'mini' named after you, so we have some of the most famous minis anywhere because of that. Such as Mini Park, Octagoncito, Mascarita Dorada and Pequeño Halloween."

Pequeño Halloween, a "mini" wrestler who wears jack-o'-lantern makeup to each match, "is a fan favorite," according to Abrahantes.

The creators believe that the show thrives on having fan favorites who are called "técnicos," and characters that are easy to hate, known as "rudos." RJ Brewer is definitely a "rudo," said Ship.

"I only drink American beer. None of that imported crap, only domestic," Brewer asserted in our interview. This, he said, is because he's a patriot, and America is the only country for him.

I asked why then was he wearing a T-shirt full of Greek writing, and if it had anything to do with a certain man named John from Massachusetts with a Greek surname -- the same one who used to be real estate agent and a dog trainer.

He laughed, and true to "kayfabe" form told me not to get carried away. His shirt belongs to a good friend he insisted. His "friend" has parents who are immigrants from Greece, he said.

The second season of Lucha Libre USA will premiere on MTV2 on Oct. 1 at 10 AM EST.


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John Stagikas isn't a xenophobe, but he plays one on TV. In real life, he's a former real estate agent and dog trainer from Massachusetts. But unlike most actors, Stagikas can't say who he actually is...
John Stagikas isn't a xenophobe, but he plays one on TV. In real life, he's a former real estate agent and dog trainer from Massachusetts. But unlike most actors, Stagikas can't say who he actually is...
 
 
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Sam D man
I stand 4 what I say.Not ur interpretation of it.
11:01 AM on 10/04/2011
This angle has been used in wrestling for decades and promoters know how profitable it is in certain demographic markets. Names like La Migra, Border Patrol, El Consul strike a nerve with
immigrants.
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BaronWVS
Turn off the Cable News! It's bad for ya!
05:05 PM on 09/30/2011
Mexican Lucha Libre is so much faster, cooler and more exciting than American "wraslin'". And if you guys haven't seen a Mexican Horror Wrestling movie, you don't know what you're missing.
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Fran Jaime
Yo Soy 132!
01:45 AM on 10/01/2011
Thank you! You really do get Lucha Libre. My favorite lucha libre horror movie is "Santo contra las Mujeres Vampiro!"
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BaronWVS
Turn off the Cable News! It's bad for ya!
06:09 PM on 10/01/2011
Viva El Santo!
12:06 PM on 09/30/2011
It's a storyline.

He's a heel. He's a bad guy.

That's the point.


It would be like condemning Johnny Depp for committing acts of piracy on the high seas.
11:57 AM on 09/30/2011
I think the problem with TV, is too much TV...used to be there were only a few channels to see...now they have 300 or more...All featuring no talent…I turn on the History channel and I see 3rd grade educated people driving trucks on ice…not to smart…or people pawning their things to eat…other alleged information channels have people picking through junk so they can sell it to other stupid people…and it goes on and on…what’s with the car repo people or the bounty hunters…trackers and junkyard build offs…all nonsenses useless wastes of time…

Dancing with the Stars….hahahahahha that is just too weird…and they have actual people that can actually ball room dance on PBS and no one watches that…maybe I am missing something here but it sure seems to me that all of this non talent TV called reality TV is designed for low info low IQ teenagers or younger…one would have to be pretty desperate to even consider watching another wrestling show on TV or report on it…so who is this junk for…
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tumbler snapper
Lawyer, engineer, author, adventurer
01:13 PM on 09/30/2011
You left out the plethora of home video shows that showcase family pratfalls and even dangerous stunts.

Reality programming is cheap to produce. It is not reality, but is carefully scripted using amateur participants. Number 660, my friend.
10:08 AM on 10/01/2011
Why all the ellipses? Space bar not working?
also: "not TO smart"?
while we're at it: why write out "Hahaha"?

I may not personally enjoy Ice Road Truckers, but I can at least acknowledge the level of skill required to perform such a dangerous tasks.
Do I approve of the large number of reality shows popping up on seemingly unrelated networks?
No, but there are plenty of intelligent and well educated people who enjoy reality shows. It's entertainment no different than any TV drama.

While we're at it, insulting people you don't even know for watching TV shows that you don't like by referring to them as "low IQ" is pretty damn mean. The IQ test has too broad a margin of error when taken by a functioning adult. It's main purpose to establish whether or not a subject has some form of mental handicap. Scores above 90 don't mean anything. Basically, you're implying that only the mentally handicapped would watch these shows, for the purposes of a put down. As the friend of a number of people with mental retardation, I find this implication offensive.

This "junk" is for people who enjoy watching it. The Post is reporting it because it has cultural significance. You're just some guy that doesn't know punctuation, railing against TV shows.
Stop acting like the only "sensible" person in a dystopian fiction, put down Brave New World/Atlas Shrugged/Idiocracy and go grow some perspective or at least something resembling competent writing.
10:35 AM on 09/30/2011
Hey!! If it sells tickets? Go for it!...WWE is bringing more of that style...TNA? so-so.
You never know...if Lucha Libre USA gets popular, watch Vince McMahon try to either buy it,
or sign a deal, to have it shown on his new Network!
10:30 AM on 09/30/2011
Lucha libre is the second most popular sport in Mexico, after soccer. And we wonder why they're risking life and limb to come over the border.
09:32 AM on 10/01/2011
Yes, what a brilliant observation!
People are leaving Mexico, a country run by drug cartels with a terrible poverty rate that's been very heavily polluted as the result of NAFTA, because of the wrestling on the TV.
What a witty observation on a culture that you have no understanding of, and a sport that you know nothing about outside of what you've been told to think by culture commentators.
Most people wouldn't take such a serious issue concerning human rights, inequality, economic disparity and the like and use it as a put down to a sport that they happen to not like, but you're a real trailblazer, you know that?
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hector74elp
10:26 AM on 09/30/2011
"you know, in Mexico wrestling IS real" Homer Simpson
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Tom Weidermeijer
If you're easily offended... try to laugh more : )
09:49 AM on 09/30/2011
Lucha Libre!!! Whoooo!
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TooLooze
Someone should do something about all the problems
09:42 AM on 09/30/2011
I was waiting to decide how I feel about the immigration issues until I learned what the professional wrestling community would do.
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ltheghost
TRUTH!
09:58 AM on 09/30/2011
lol!!!!
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henrypapillon
Put a Psychiatrist in every NRA meeting.
09:06 AM on 09/30/2011
More garbage on TV, just like the Gringo garbage.
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gaydood
♥ Always Wins !!!
08:54 AM on 09/30/2011
wow awsummmm !