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OccupyDC Protest: Group Pushes Repeal Of Citizens United, Corporate Personhood

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First Posted: 10/01/11 03:33 PM ET Updated: 12/01/11 05:12 AM ET

WASHINGTON -- Around 35 OccupyDC protesters huddled in a cluster of trees in McPherson Square on Saturday morning during on-and-off rain showers, the beginning of what they said could be a several month-long occupation of the park in the nation's capital.

The protesters, inspired by the ongoing Occupy Wall Street protests in New York City, are asking for the "repeal [of] corporate personhood," according to the group's website. Thee group is focusing particularly on Citizens United, the landmark 2010 U.S. Supreme Court case that struck down campaign-finance laws applying to corporations and unions, freeing these groups to spend money on independent political ads.

That decision expanded the First Amendment rights for corporations under the legal doctrine called corporate personhood, a theory that gives some legal rights and duties to corporations as if they were people.

Which parts of corporate personhood does OccupyDC want to repeal -- the parts that allow corporations to enter into contracts, or just the Citizens United-related parts that focus on campaign finance law?

Jeffrey Light, a D.C.-based activist lawyer associated with OccupyDC, told The Huffington Post in an interview Friday that OccupyDC doesn't yet have a unified vision of what it means to repeal corporate personhood, but said the protest group would like to start by getting corporation-related campaign finance laws back in place. "We're most concerned with the power of corporations to amass huge amounts of wealth and then to use that to distort the political system. We're also concerned about corporations looking to the First Amendment to overturn legislation enacted by democratically enacted government."

Light said that the group would support some First Amendment rights for non-persons -- OccupyDC would not support the government being able to tell nonprofits that they have to carry anti-gay messages, for example.

"But when we're talking about regulations in the public interest, things like forcing corporations to abide by environmental standards, or campaign finance limits, then it's unreasonable for corporations to be able to override the public interest," he said. "Our concern is about basic democratic principles. Rather than just making theoretical statements about what we'd like the role of corporations to be in an ideal world, we're trying to create actual reforms right now. People aren't coming out in the street because they all have a fixed and agreed-upon idea of exactly where this line should be drawn. People are just really fed up with the status quo right now, and want to see some real changes."

But Light said the group has no current plans to change Citizens United with another lawsuit or by pushing for a constitutional amendment.

"We don't have a consensus yet on what the next step is," Light said. "Unlike some other protests, we're not a nonprofit with already articulated goals. It's kind of a fluid thing right now: just individuals coming together and trying to figure out what kind of actions we should take. So we haven't necessarily articulated our long-term strategy yet.

"And there are of course a lot of different solutions, everything from another Supreme Court case to a constitutional amendment," he added. "We're not necessarily all on the same page as to what the solution would be, but any of those things would be a step in the right direction."

In the meantime, the small contingent of protesters remained in the square Saturday afternoon. Some held protest signs on the K Street NW sidewalk, getting occasional honks from passing traffic. Assuming the rain doesn't drive them away, the protesters have awhile to work out a unified vision.

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WASHINGTON -- Around 35 OccupyDC protesters huddled in a cluster of trees in McPherson Square on Saturday morning during on-and-off rain showers, the beginning of what they said could be a several mon...
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08:38 PM on 10/02/2011
I love that people are speaking out - FINALLY! I only wish there was a succinct message, other than we don't like what you did. If we don't get a list of demands together, millions could march and not really accomplish anything. We need a clear GOAL!
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12:24 PM on 10/04/2011
Agreed.

The civil rights movement was very well organized...if they did it, we can do it as a nation!
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forty8r
Gerrman Freethinker
07:26 PM on 10/02/2011
Here is a question to ask a GOP'er if corporations are to be regarded as people then why aren't corporations taxed as people? Sounds like a simple and fair question to me.
07:48 PM on 10/02/2011
Corporate personhood (not "people") is not a party issue, or even an issue of political ideology. Corporations are legally regarded as persons in all industrialized jurisdictions, including socialist ones.
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dlefevre23
Corporate Welfare is the worst kind of socialism
11:32 PM on 10/02/2011
It doesn't make it right and it doesn't mean we can't work to end it in THIS "jurisdiction."
07:14 PM on 10/04/2011
Becasuse nobody thinks they are "people" in the first place.
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07:17 PM on 10/02/2011
Albequerque, Los Angeles,San Jose, Denver, Allentown, Boston,Lexington, San Fran,Omaha, Birmingham,Chicago, Philly,Spokane, Boston,Austin,Dallas, Houston,Las Vegas,Seattle, Portland,Memphis,New Orleans,Denver,Eugene,Santa Rosa, guess HP left out a few
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dlefevre23
Corporate Welfare is the worst kind of socialism
11:33 PM on 10/02/2011
There will be one in Indianapolis but not date has been set yet.
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07:11 PM on 10/02/2011
no one who makes decisions in a corportation should be able to hide behind the word "corportation" to hid from responsiiblity of their actions
07:15 PM on 10/04/2011
They can't.
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Lorenzo&BushH8ter
06:58 PM on 10/02/2011
Protesters should make paper dog collars to wear with "KOCH" printed on them.....or Goldman-Sachs....or BANK OF AMERICA....or WELLS FARGO.....
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dbishop76
Left of liberal Texan.
06:23 PM on 10/02/2011
Yeah, try spreading to nearly all 50 states.

http://www.occupytogether.org/

The people have had it.

#occupywallstreet

#occupyHouston Oct 12
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lolablev
06:22 PM on 10/02/2011
Actually corporations have more rights - in terms of donations to candidates, they can give as much as we want. We are limited to a small amount per year (I can't remember what it is, $1200 comes to mind). How do corps get away with donation millions?
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Lorenzo&BushH8ter
06:52 PM on 10/02/2011
They have many, many ways. Some will even demand their employees give a certain amount and pay them back for their contribution.
I remember back in '94 or so, working for a company that was actually based in the U.K., when our manager called a meeting and used it to pummel us with whom we should vote for.
This was also some years after the newspapers started "endorsing" candidates, as if we couldn't make up our own minds. I suppose telling us whom to vote for was affective enough so they began using newspeak. That would have gotten a real journalist fired 50 years ago.

Newspeak:
propagandistic language marked by euphemism, circumlocution, and the inversion of customary meanings : double-talk
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Lorenzo&BushH8ter
06:55 PM on 10/02/2011
correction: "I suppose telling us whom to vote for WASN'T effective enough, so they began using newspeak."
07:17 PM on 10/04/2011
THIS IS FALSE.

Corporations can't give to candidates. All the limits on donations are still in place. They can sponsor PACs, which can give using voluntarily-collected funds, which are limited to $5,000.. They certainly cannot give any amount they want.

Citizen's United simply said that corporations can spend money on speech, Nothing to do with giving money to candidates.
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nighthawksc
Still living on occupied land - USA
06:13 PM on 10/02/2011
It is good to see the protesters finally come together with a known purpose and a goal. The repeal of Corporate Personhood is a great place to start. Heck, this makes me want to go to Washington.
07:17 PM on 10/04/2011
A corporation is a legal person, similar to but not the same as a real person. Repealing that means repealing corporations altogether. It's silly.
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Jeff Norman
11:28 PM on 10/05/2011
Repealing “corporate personhood†would be great? Really?

Can you paint us a verbal picture of how life in America would be better if all corporations were deprived of all constitutional rights?

I didn’t think so.
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nighthawksc
Still living on occupied land - USA
12:40 AM on 10/06/2011
Well see, I am a Native American and quite frankly, if all Corporations left America it would pretty well suit me just fine. PS: Don't forget to clean up the mess you made.
05:51 PM on 10/02/2011
It has spread beyond two cities, HP.
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Beth Isbell
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05:50 PM on 10/02/2011
The media is totally understanding this movement ... they want to categorize it - box it into a particular political position - that way it becomes easier to dismiss it. The person interviewed is not a spokesperson for the movement, just one person expressing his personal views & thoughts. If anything the message of the Occupy movement is quite a simple one: Listen! ... There is serious discontent right now with politicians from both parties, even thought the GOP is worse about it, and Wall Street, Bank & Big Corporation execs ignoring the will of the vast majority of citizens. Citizens United & campaign finance reform is just part of the issue. Another example would be corporations raiding worker pension funds to pay their senior executives bonuses (see Ellen Schultz book "Retirement Heist") - basically government cowing into the financial pressures placed on them by the rich elite and IGNORING the voices & will of the people. For example, almost 70% of voters (including a majority of Republicans) support the Buffett Rule - but Congress sits on its ass & does nothing, because nothing protects those giving them the most money. When they do pass something, it's so watered down that it's easily circumvented and often so full of loopholes that it actually does more harm than good. I think the point here is that politicians need to start listening to the people - the people's voice is clear: stop catering to elite monied interests & start helping the 99%!
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Lorenzo&BushH8ter
06:24 PM on 10/02/2011
AND...the fact that the lobbyists (aka attorneys) were the ones who actually WROTE the legislation that our representatives introduced on the floor of the House as if THEY wrote it, then voted it through and Bush 43 signed it into LAW. The lobbyists/attorneys advised them exactly how it would benefit our representatives personally.....so they were sure to get it passed and passed quickly.
We have too many "wanna be" attorneys as representatives that can not even read legal language.
This is why they made a big broohaha about the debit ceiling (which they really care nothing about). They simply wanted to "run the clock out" so the laws signed in under Bush 43 regarding the tax cuts, loopholes, off-shore banking, write-offs, trusts, tax havens, money that has been a "gift" to university endowments, etc, etc, etc that has wrecked our economy and COUNTRY did not come into the public debate or with a spotlight on them like the debt ceiling received.
07:18 PM on 10/04/2011
So what? Doesn't matter who proposes it, just who votes it into law.
05:36 PM on 10/02/2011
It's so on
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04:48 PM on 10/02/2011
"The group is focusing particularly on Citizens United, the landmark 2010 U.S. Supreme Court case that struck down campaign-finance laws applying to corporations and unions, freeing these groups to spend money on independent political ads."

The repealing of citizens united should be a part of a larger movement to bring about electoral reform in this country...

Other ideas for electoral reform:

-Public financing of all campaigns
-Shortenin­­g the election campaign cycle
-Banning of television campaign advertisem­­ents
-Banning of of electronic voting machines (only paper ballots)
-Removal of rules/laws that cause voter disenfranc­­hisement.­.
05:04 PM on 10/02/2011
Yes! Election reform is so needed! And I like your list.
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Lorenzo&BushH8ter
06:30 PM on 10/02/2011
We are STILL at the mercy of the Di3bOLD machines......12 years later. The company has just changed it's name.
Why are we still afraid and wondering of our votes are being counted correctly?
Look at the Waukesha County clerk in Wisconsin that "found" thousands of votes 2 days after a recent election in Wisconsin. The GAB (Government Accountability Board) actually allowed her a computer software program created just for her to "assemble" results on.
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Ao Escobar
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04:37 PM on 10/02/2011
I will be in the DC one come next weekend.
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willowtree3
"Pay no attention to the man behind the curtain"
04:07 PM on 10/02/2011
We are not just "another brick in the wall" #OCCUPYWALLSTREET
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willowtree3
"Pay no attention to the man behind the curtain"
04:06 PM on 10/02/2011
We stand with all the protesters across the country-having our voices heard
against the robber barons of wall street.
We are not "just another brick in the wall"