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Nevada, South Carolina Move Primaries In Response To Florida

First Posted: 10/03/2011 12:02 pm Updated: 12/03/2011 4:12 am

Last week, the Florida Republican Party decided to flout Republican National Committee rules and upset the delicate applecart of American political traditions by moving its state's primary to Jan. 31. State officials anticipated that the four early primary/caucus states -- Iowa, New Hampshire, South Carolina and Nevada -- would make corresponding moves to stay ahead of Florida, leaving the Sunshine State in an enviable fifth position on the primary calendar. Here come those corresponding moves.

It had looked like Nevada might stand pat and allow itself to be leapfrogged. But state officials were definitely aggrieved by Florida's move. Nevada GOP Chairwoman Amy Tarkanian made this clear to Politico's Reid Epstein: "We're not happy with them, period. ... We have, what, 28 delegates? They have 99. So what do they care if they lose some? They didn't have to be bullies about this."

That simmering animosity has apparently boiled over. Nevada officials are now saying they will move their primary. According to Lynda Waddington of the Washington Independent, the "exact date is not yet known," but a move to "a Saturday in January that follows New Hampshire's yet-to-be-named primary date" is in the offing:

Nevada Republican Party Chairwoman Amy Tarkanian had considered moving the caucuses to the first week of February to avoid the delegate penalty while still holding the first vote in the West ahead of Colorado, according to the Las Vegas Review-Journal. But Tarkanian and the executive board, meeting by phone Saturday evening, deter­mined it was more important to hold the nation's third presidential vote than to hold onto a full slate of delegates.

In South Carolina, where tension with Florida's state officials and their anticipated move has been in full flower for months, state GOP Chairman Chad Connelly is making a move to Jan. 21. CNN's Peter Hamby got the aggrieved statement from Connelly: "Last Friday, a nine-person committee brought chaos to the 2012 calendar. ... Today, South Carolina is making things right."

Meanwhile, we wait for Iowa and New Hampshire to make their corresponding calendar decisions, which are expected to bring up the curtain on the real 2012 competition at least a month ahead of schedule -- the most drastic scenarios involve December 2011 dates. For the traditional first states, picking a new date is a complicated dance around other major January events and ground-level logistical considerations. Waddington summarized what GOP officials in those states have to navigate around rather nicely:

Politicos involved with preliminary caucus discussions in the Hawkeye State tell The Iowa Independent that the state is likely to move to a date between Jan. 3 and 8, which would rule out a Monday night event. January 2, 2012, is the date the nation will observe the New Year's Day holiday, and is the date set for the Rose Bowl football game. Likewise, January 9 is the BCS national championship game.

If Iowa doesn't pick a Monday, it may need to strike a deal with New Hampshire, as it did in 2008 for a shortened window between the two contests, which have historically fallen eight days apart.

During 2010, the Iowa parties held their off-year caucuses on a Saturday. Not only was a move to Saturday pushed at a national level, but the state parties had hoped the non-weekday setting would allow for greater participation by the general public. Since the caucuses were held during the day, there was also hope that older residents wouldn't be off-put by traveling at night to caucus locations. Opposition to the move predominantly came from religious groups who recognize Saturday as a day of religious observation and those who felt the move bucked tradition.

Because the caucuses are community contests, there were also increased difficulties in locating and reserving venue space -- many of which, like school gymnasiums and community centers, are often in use on Saturday mornings.

Waddington anticipated that Iowa would hold its caucuses on Jan. 3, with New Hampshire following a week later, and Nevada and South Carolina holding their contests on consecutive Saturdays -- the 21st and 28th, respectively. But now that South Carolina is set to hold its primary on the 21st, everyone else could be pushed even earlier.

Happy New Year, everyone.

READ THE WHOLE THING:
Nevada moves caucuses to January [Washington Independent]
South Carolina to hold primary on January 21 [CNN]

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inmyelement
07:56 PM on 10/04/2011
Why wait until January? They should have had the primaries in July.
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Pat Bateman2000
GOP - No Fact-Checkers Allowed
05:14 PM on 10/03/2011
The election cycle is TOO long. This is just another excuse for our do nothing congress to do nothing because of the election cycle.
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judiNJ
The Free Market is Not Free
03:43 PM on 10/03/2011
The Republican Part should be renamed the Chaos Party. That's all they do. They cause confusion and chaos wherever they go. All it took was the 2010 election that put these
people in charge in the House, and it has been nothing but chaos ever since. They should all
be given a looooooooooog time out!
hank101
do you realy believe all that -----
01:47 PM on 10/03/2011
Fl, screw up an election..realy..Fl could screw up an iron ball..The good lord cant figure out judgement morning because Fl. cant agree on a date.
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Jacksonian
01:44 PM on 10/03/2011
As if we needed it, here'sproof positive that Republicans can't get along with anybody -- not even themselves.

Why don't we all just acknowledge that G.O.P. caucuses, primaries, candidates, and voters are irrelevant every single day of the year? Absent that, it doesn't take a lot of introspection to discern why a party whose precepts embody corporate-and-personal greed at the expense of everything else would produce such discord.

On an evolutionary scale, hysterical as they may find that concept, this "me-first" approach can't survive forever. Or, if we're lucky, for long.
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Charlene Estes
Forest Gump said it best Stupid is as stupid does
01:41 PM on 10/03/2011
I think the title should read "More chaos to the republican 2012 presidential election" cause God knows they are ALREADY in chaos and it is just going to get worse!

LOLOLOLOLOLOL!
shrinktalkingheads
Battling misinformation since April 9, 1865
01:32 PM on 10/03/2011
Republicans can shuffle the cards ten ways to tomorrow. They will have a losing hand no matter which primary is first on the calendar or who is on the ballot.

The root cause of all this hand wringing is that Republicans have no candidate who can match, much less beat President Obama in the 2012 election. The only question remaining is which of the Republican candidates will lose by the smaller landslide.
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gevan
big dubya
01:31 PM on 10/03/2011
Can combine Iowa caucus with New Year's Eve party? May as well get a buzz on before voting for these turkeys.
hank101
do you realy believe all that -----
01:50 PM on 10/03/2011
If they arent sober they might vote for a Democrat...they could blame common sense on being
drunk.
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Pat Bateman2000
GOP - No Fact-Checkers Allowed
05:13 PM on 10/03/2011
Pretty stupid since the caucus is a Republican event this year as we have a Democratic President.
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TheTXI
Uninvited guest. Came in through the back door.
01:24 PM on 10/03/2011
At this point I am wondering why the GOP just doesn't go for the following formula:

Split the GOP nominees into two groups, and have one group stand out in the cold in Iowa, while the other group stands out in New Hampshire. Last ones standing get on the ticket.
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02:02 PM on 10/03/2011
naw... to favorable to a nominee from alaska
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sociocanuck
Red Tory mind / Progressive voting history
04:48 PM on 10/03/2011
Or Celebrity Deathmatch style. Minus the Celebrity part.
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undecidedaboutPOTUS
Decidedly: Moving Forward = 2012
01:16 PM on 10/03/2011
Given this trend,.  Iowa is likely to be Jan. 2, 2012  or Dec. 30, 2011.

Or to make the "circus" complete they should aim for Nov 1, 2011  to maximize the run up to the election!
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Eddie VanderMolen
2 + 2 = 4, period!
01:13 PM on 10/03/2011
So, GOPers have been trying to Jedi mind trick Christie to run for Prez. but, give him a shorter amount of time to win primaries. Unless, they feel they need to double down on Mitt and hope for the best. The lunatics indeed have taken over the asylum.
hank101
do you realy believe all that -----
01:52 PM on 10/03/2011
Christie cant run, waddle maybe..
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Eddie VanderMolen
2 + 2 = 4, period!
02:02 PM on 10/03/2011
I suspect that the governor of NJ could get one heck of a track suit. That might disguise the waddle a little.
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01:10 PM on 10/03/2011
Why don't the GOPers just go ahead and have their primaries now, so they can spend the next 14 months bashing Obama instead of each other? Aren't most Americans already thoroughly sick of these so-called debates among Romney, Perry, Cain, Bachmann, (oh and I mustn't forget Ron Paul, because if I do all 12 of his disciples will tell me) and the rest of them? I want to hear what they are going to do for (more accurately to) our nation once they get in the Oval Office. I want to know how quickly they will ship immigrants home, how many amendments to our Constitution they will vote on (anti-gay marriage, outlaw all abortion, beef up the second amendment, presidential candidates must show proof of native birth, enshrine Citizens United into law), how many federal agencies and cabinet positions they will do away with (DOA, DEA, DOE, IRS, EPA, ETC.), how fast they will repeal Obamacare, privatize Social Security, reinstate Don't Ask Don't Tell, and put up Ayn Rand's statue in front of the Capitol?
hank101
do you realy believe all that -----
01:53 PM on 10/03/2011
Tea Party is toast this time...
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fredisfred
12:58 PM on 10/03/2011
Welcome to the 3 Ring circus.
LoveTheGame
Questioning authority since 1965
12:55 PM on 10/03/2011
The GOPTea is bringing chaos to the government and the country. I guess it's a natural progression to bring chaos to their own primary system.
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It Must Get Better
I'd Like to ....
12:55 PM on 10/03/2011
All part of the plan, I am sure. Dig long enough and we will find out who is behind all of it.

My bet, K O C H.