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European Crisis Could Tip U.S. Into Recession, Economists Warn

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First Posted: 10/05/11 10:55 AM ET Updated: 12/04/11 05:12 AM ET

As the Greek government appears increasingly likely to default on its debt, economists are envisioning potentially dire spillovers to the United States, with anxiety afflicting the financial system, making money tight and possibly tipping the American economy back into recession.

Economists do not agree on when Greece might default, but they expressed concern that a financial crisis in Europe, sparked by a Greek default that seems almost inevitable, could push the fragile American economic recovery into a recession by the end of this year.

"That indeed might be the stumbling block that pushes our economy into a recession," said Gary Burtless, economist at the Brookings Institution.

The U.S. stock market, led by plummeting bank stocks, has been tumbling on fears that the crisis in Europe could tip the U.S. into recession. Stocks for Goldman Sachs, Bank of America, Morgan Stanley, Citigroup and JPMorgan Chase all hit a 52-week lows on Monday.

Economists said that if Greece defaults, interest rates for troubled countries such as Portugal, Ireland, Spain and Italy would spike because investors would become more skeptical of those countries' ability to pay down their debts.

As it became more difficult for these countries to pay down their debts, they would be more likely to default and abandon the euro, so they could pay their debts in cheaper currencies of their own. It would require decisive political leadership from Europe's stronger countries to prevent such a scenario, economists said.

If other troubled countries default and flee from the euro, European banks with large investments in those countries' sovereign debt would be highly vulnerable to bank runs, which would drain them of capital and possibly force them into bankruptcy. European stocks would plummet, and the European economy would plunge into a recession.

A recession in Europe, which accounts for more than 20 percent of the world economy, would weigh on the closely entangled U.S. economy. Economists said that the U.S. stock market would plunge, banks would tighten lending, consumers would cut back on spending, and businesses would delay hiring.

In the worst of circumstances, if bank stock prices plunge and customers flee toward holding cash, some U.S. banks would be in danger of failing at a moment when the federal government could be too dysfunctional to coordinate a response, said MIT finance professor Andrew Lo.

"We may see a number of banks go under," Lo said. "Given that we’re coming up to an election year and politicians are not thinking about their own constituents but about their own jobs, we are very likely to see some political impasses that translate into a financial crisis."

Burtless said that a bank such as Morgan Stanley would become "more vulnerable to collapse" if investors lose faith in the bank as a result of a bank run and plummeting stock price. "The lack of confidence becomes self-reinforcing," he said.

Lo said there is a "significant probability" that even though European politicians may delay a Greek default for another six to 12 months, many Americans ultimately may pull their money out of stocks, bonds and commodities and invest fully in safe havens such as cash or Treasury bills.

Meanwhile, the U.S. stock market could tumble as much as 15 percent during the next three months as it anticipates an eventual Greek default, Lo said. He added that although the effect of a Greek default would be "different" from that of Lehman Brothers, since U.S. financial institutions have less direct exposure to Greek debt, "it could be every bit as significant and possibly more so because of the volatile nature of the current economy."

Goldman Sachs recently released a report that downgraded its forecast of U.S. economic growth in the first quarter of 2012 to just 0.5 percent, noting that the crisis in Europe "is likely to slow the US economy to the edge of recession by early 2012."

After a Greek sovereign default, lenders would become concerned about other borrowers, and short-term loans are likely to become more expensive because banks would be worried about the future of the global economy, said MIT economist Guido Lorenzoni. Such a tightening of credit for businesses and households would be "disruptive" for the American economy, he said.

"Even if Greece doesn't default, we could end up with a U.S. recession," said Jay Bryson, global economist at Wells Fargo Securities.

Bryson said that although U.S. banks have limited exposure to European debt, credit could tighten "dramatically" in the United States as lenders become increasingly worried about the possibility of a contagion threatening the solvency of several European countries and banks. He added that the U.S. could also enter a recession simply as a result of a cutback in U.S. lending or spending.

The U.S. has a 40 to 50 percent chance of entering a double-dip recession by the end of this year, said Gus Faucher, director of macroeconomics at Moody's Analytics, who described himself as optimistic about the eurozone escaping sovereign debt defaults. Goldman Sachs also forecast a 40 percent risk of recession in the U.S. in its report on Monday night.

The potential fallout remains "a big unknown because there are so many political factors," said Harvard economist Kenneth S. Rogoff, a former chief economist at the International Monetary Fund. Where Germany draws the line on how much it is willing to help Europe will play a major role in the fate of the European and U.S. economies, he said.

Historically, sovereign defaults occur a few years after international financial crises, and defaults by Greece and even Ireland and Portugal have the potential to be contained, Rogoff said. But if a large country such as Italy or Spain is forced to default and leave the eurozone, he said, that could have the power to cause a deep recession in the United States.

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As the Greek government appears increasingly likely to default on its debt, economists are envisioning potentially dire spillovers to the United States, with anxiety afflicting the financial system, m...
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donut999
05:30 PM on 10/06/2011
The whole thing about Europe is a tad nuts. Sure it is a factor, but just one of many. We have states with larger economy's than some of these country's. Are GB and Germany worried about California, Texas, Illinois and New York? We do not need a remote "tip", plenty of those to go around with our own internal problems.
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Quotidien
09:33 AM on 10/06/2011
"Greece's problems are not just about spending too much money. It is about the deliberate lying about its accounts, and the lack of transparency of many areas of public spending."
04:10 PM on 10/05/2011
I think this woman is a little late to the party. Greece, Ireland and Portugal are already being bailed out because they have been shut out of the capital markets b/c interest rates have soared, so that has already been a problem, not a pending problem. They no longer able to borrow from private markets, instead they are bailed out, so their interest rates in the private markets are irrelevant at this point. Greece 1 yr. over 100% and CDS spreads at all-time highs. The real threat is that if Greece defaults or leaves the Euro, that that will set a precedent/fear that Ireland and Portugal will follow so that they don't have to abide by the strict austerity measures set by the IMF, ECB et al as part of the conditions of receiving their bailouts as their people suffer, and the contagion would spread deeper. Those countries are suffering from recession and paying down both public and private debt is impossible under those conditions, while public and private write-downs and restructuring are inevitable.
04:10 PM on 10/05/2011
The real threat is Spain and Italy b/c their bond markets are much bigger and the current bailout fund EFSF does not have enough money to recapitalize banks and bailout Spain and Italy, unless the 17 diff countries ratify a bigger expansion of the fund which is highly unlikely, and should their interest rates soar like the other periphery countries b/c they are TBTF, and if they are forced to receive a bailout or face major restructuring, that will cause a massive blow to banks since those countries debt markets both private and public and very big compared to the periphery and Euro banks hold most of that debt and are highly levered still with low capital ratios.
04:10 PM on 10/05/2011
It is for this reason that the ECB has been buying Spanish and Italian bonds on the 2nd market to keep rates down to prevent more bailouts/restructuring which at the point would rock the markets b/c of the size of those 2 countries. Bank stocks have been sliding since earlier this year in Euro and US on counterparty risk and mark-to-fantasy accounting still in play, down 50%+. It's not that US banks have much exposure to sovereign Euro debt directly but they hold commercial paper/debt and repo from the Euro banks which hold sovereign debt, and those Euro banks can be rendered insolvent should those countries chose to leave the Euro or restructure their debts leaving a massive capital shortfall in many of the Euro banks whose funding costs, seen in the Euribor/OIS spread (interbank/central bank lending spread), are as high as they were before Lehman, esp. the French and German banks which hold most of their debt, which would therefore affect American banks.
04:10 PM on 10/05/2011
Reminds me of 07 when credit started to dry up but didn’t collapse until Lehman. The signs were already there. Also, CDS spreads have surged and nobody knows for sure how much counterparty risk there is to American banks since it is still mostly an unregulated market. Morgan Stanley CDS has surged the most and their stock price has plunged and has correlated nearly 100% with French banks as they have a lot of exposure to those banks/countries that could bring them down, and along with them other banks that are interconnected with them, US banks. Basically another Lehman no matter which way you look at it because credit would freeze up along with confidence, which is already happening. Credit markets have been pricing in recession since early May in US and Euro. Equities are usually the last to catch up as they anticipate more stimulus so they continue to rally and the economy is the last to feel it.
04:10 PM on 10/05/2011
Most banks have been parking their money at the ECB, which is at an all-time high, b/c they are scared to lend to other banks and they are refusing to rollover other banks' debt to provide more funding, while they are shedding some Euro sovereign bonds b/c of fear of eventual restructured debt which this all causes credit contraction/deleveraging as banks are not lending to their economies and are only worried about recapitalizing their capital ratios and remaining solvent with liquidity as they pledge broke sovereign debt at par to the ECB. Even Siemens, the corporation, has pulled their money out of BNP and parked it at the ECB which is a quasi-bank run while earlier last month a Chinese bank pulled their credit lines from SocGen, French bank. The problem is the Euro banking system relies heavily on short-term funding that must be rolled over continually, and debt/equity issuance which has all been shut out for them from counterparty risk. They have been shedding assets and refusing to lend while they hold some sovereign debt on their books still since they haven't had to write down the full amount of the toxic sovereign debt just yet which juices their balance sheets.
04:09 PM on 10/05/2011
The kicking the can down the road is to make sure that the banks have adequate time to recapitalize before something really serious happens. Germany is slowing as well as China, which was the main engines that kept the world recovery humming along, but they now faced with recent PMI contraction with high inflation in China with their underground banking system that has tons of non-performing loans on their books: A bubble waiting to burst. The US Mortgage bubble has now morphed into a Euro sovereign debt crisis bubble which will eventually turn to China’s massive housing bubble.
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03:04 PM on 10/05/2011
http://www.leap2020.eu/GEAB-N-57-is-available-Global-systemic-crisis-Fourth-quarter-2011-Implosive-fusion-of-global-financial-assets_a7640.html
GEAB Nâ–‘57 is available! Global systemic crisis - Fourth quarter 2011: Implosive fusion of global financial assets

"As anticipated by LEAP/E2020 since November 2010, and often repeated up to June 2011, the second half of 2011 has started with a sudden and major relapse of the crisis. Nearly USD 10 trillion of the USD 15 trillion in ghost assets announced in GEAB N°56 have already gone up in smoke. The rest (and probably much more) will vanish in the fourth quarter of 2011, which will be marked by what our team calls "the implosive fusion of global financial assets". It’s the two major global financial centers, Wall Street in New York and the City of London, which will be the "preferred reactors" of this fusion. And, as predicted by LEAP/E2020 for several months, it’s the solution to the public debt problems in some Euroland countries which will enable this reaction to reach critical mass, after which nothing is controllable; but the bulk of the fuel that will drive the reaction and turn it into a real global shock (1) is found in the United States. Since July 2011 we have only started on the process that led to this situation: the worst is ahead of us and very close!..."
02:47 PM on 10/05/2011
Oh believe me , we don't Europe to do that.
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chaz
02:25 PM on 10/05/2011
More proof the Republicans own the media.

How did Europe get into this mess? Deregulation and Banking Corruptions. Who did the media blame? The housing bubble. What have they done since? Cut government spending and bailed out the banks.
Sound familiar?

Keep electing teabaggers and keep getting screwed.
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01:48 PM on 10/05/2011
These socialist countries have run out of other people's money within their own countries so they started needing other people's money from other European countries. Now that " other people's money " has run out and they need other people's money from countries outside of Europe. Socialism and Keynesian economics doesn't work because promises outlive reality. The good thing about for the govt is that everytime someone dies during these protests, that pension no longer needs to be paid.
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Nate35
02:44 PM on 10/05/2011
They are asking for money from France and Germany, two countries that, by your standards, are socialist to the bone.
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08:02 PM on 10/05/2011
The IMF bails them out and the US pays 22% of the IMF
02:46 PM on 10/05/2011
wow. stunning economic analysis. i learned so much from you, master.

do you ever stop and think, I'm really just full of hot air but, geez, I have 118 fans!
02:20 AM on 10/06/2011
It's 119 fans now.
01:33 PM on 10/05/2011
We are following in their footsteps. They overspent and they are paying the price. We're next. The riots, disorder and chaos occurring there is coming here.

Without a major course correction away from a large central government with communistic or socialistic goals, we're going to continue to be a nation in decline.

We need to reinstate the functional laws, rules and regulations that we rescinded, particularly the Glass-Steagall and Bank Withholding Acts rescinded in 1999 by an R congress and a D president that allowed banks and financial institutions to trade in derivatives, bundled mortgage backed securities, and other exotic instruments.

We need to rescind all of the laws, rules and regulations that allowed Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac to accumulate their trillion dollar deficits made good by us, the taxpayers.

In short - we need to once again become functional.

Unfortunately, I'm not optimistic that will occur.
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William50
01:27 PM on 10/05/2011
It is true, Greece can be best linked to the housing bubble, the banks were so over extended the loss of ten percent made them begin to fail, yet as we now see the world did not end!
Today there is more wealth, innovation, natural resources, power, ability and craftsmanship in the USA in the group from twenty five to eighty that a failure in Europe should not harm you. Yet today your too big to fail banks are setting on foundations of sand and your money is being held captive because they have over extended and made huge bad deals. Today we here how bad in will be--but it does nor have to be.
What we have is a failure in leadership, banking and hope.
Yet, we also have every thing needed for a better America.
It is up to you, the Average Americans. Allow your savings and homes to be taken to pay for bad bank loans or decide you are in charge of your future!
VIVA THE REVOLUTION