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Super Committee Holds More Closed-Door Meetings

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First Posted: 10/05/11 03:28 PM ET Updated: 12/05/11 05:12 AM ET

WASHINGTON -- The six Democratic members of a 12-member super committee with extraordinary powers to shape spending over the next decade held another secret meeting on Wednesday, out of view of the press and public.

The lawmakers, appointed to the Joint Select Committee on Deficit Reduction by leadership, have held the majority of their meetings behind closed doors, despite calls for its discussions to be as open as possible. They are tasked with finding at least $1.2 trillion in spending cuts over the next decade, possibly making cuts to entitlement programs, discretionary spending and the military as well as reforming the tax code.

But so far, most meetings have been held in private, with lawmakers declining to say much of anything to reporters. The committee is now meeting twice each day, once midday and once in the evening, but releasing little information about what is discussed. On Wednesday, a few reporters milled around outside during the meeting of Democratic lawmakers as staffers guarded the closed door, but no information was released when the members exited.

Sen. Patty Murray (D-Wash.), a committee co-chair, defended the closed-door meetings before entering yet another private meeting on Wednesday afternoon. She told reporters the committee will make its final decisions in front of the public, but needs privacy to be "honest with each other."

"I remember well one time when I was very little and I was fighting with my brother every other minute and my mother put us in a backroom and said don't come out until you got it figured out," Murray told reporters. "We stared at each other for a while, but we came out friends."

The secretive nature of the meetings is even more significant because the committee was created in a private process during negotiations over raising the debt ceiling, said John Wonderlich of the pro-transparency Sunlight Foundation.

"The process that led us here was secretive to its core ... The law that created the super committee was only reviewed for a few hours by Congress and the public before they created it and passed it," he said. "We've always said that it's fine for Murray to call to meet any time she wants -- you can't keep members of Congress from talking each other -- but that's not what's happening here. This is an all-day meeting."

The committee has not issued a press release since Sept. 13, and held its last public hearing on Sept. 22.

The plan they eventually unveil, which is slated to come out before Nov. 23, will hold a special advantage over run-of-the-mill legislation: it will be filibuster-proof in the Senate, requiring only 51 votes for passage rather than the typical 60, and will not allow for amendments in either chamber.

The 12-member super committee has three members from each caucus or conference, led by Murray and Rep. Jeb Hensarling (R-Texas). The other Democratic members are Sens. John Kerry (D-Mass.) and Max Baucus (D-Mont.) and Reps. Chris Van Hollen (D-Md.), Xavier Becerra (D-Calif.) and Jim Clyburn (D-S.C.). The Republicans are represented by Sens. Jon Kyl (R-Ariz.), Rob Portman (R-Ohio) and Pat Toomey (R-Pa.), and Reps. Fred Upton (R-Mich.) and David Camp (R-Mich.).

Of course, many of the members are high-ranking, making it difficult to set up meetings on short-notice, and public hearings require booking witnesses. The committee must, under its rules, give at least 48 hours notice before a public hearing.

As of Wednesday afternoon, no information about the next public hearing had been announced.

UPDATE: 6:10 p.m. -- This post was updated to include statements made by Sen. Murray later on Wednesday.

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WASHINGTON -- The six Democratic members of a 12-member super committee with extraordinary powers to shape spending over the next decade held another secret meeting on Wednesday, out of view of the pr...
WASHINGTON -- The six Democratic members of a 12-member super committee with extraordinary powers to shape spending over the next decade held another secret meeting on Wednesday, out of view of the pr...
 
 
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jeromettaylor
The Aliens were here 1st!
05:42 PM on 11/28/2011
20 percent spending cuts across the board. We'll all suffer together...equally!
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08:51 AM on 10/06/2011
Poor Patty Murray. Closed doors bring honesty in government? The truth is that that is the only card she can play face up. The hardest part for her is playing it with a straight face.

US government is incapable of honesty. By design. And since Citizens Dis-United, it has gone flat-line dead.
08:46 AM on 10/06/2011
Ever divide 1.2 trillion over 10 years? When the OB budget which was never finished was 1.65 trillion over budget. How do we ever catch up at this rate?
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Caseybug
I close my eyes and life gets simpler.
02:28 AM on 10/06/2011
I could be wrong, but I have a little problem with our government deciding the fate of this country, behind closed doors.

Is it at least going to be recorded so we can view it after they are through being "honest" with each other?
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JPatrickRader
FL Progressive (smiling)
12:53 AM on 10/06/2011
Allow me to translate..."We want to make sure we don't upset our corporate masters, but will gladly fill-in the general public, once we've determined just how much money and services we are going to take from you and give to the 1%."...res ipsa loquitor
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12:39 AM on 10/06/2011
She told reporters the committee will make its final decisions in front of the public, but needs privacy to be "honest with each other."

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What she actually meant is its final decisions will be ANNOUNCED in front of the public.

And they can't be honest with each other in PUBLIC.

Put another way, openness causes lying?

Even Orwell couldn't come up with this.
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08:56 AM on 10/06/2011
She might just as well keep her final decisions secret, too, for all the good they'll do. Just like Obama's hit list and all the government's interpretations of the PATRIOT Ace, the no-fly lists, the evidence against the "terrorists," the secret deals with lobbyists and donors, etc. All secret.

Welcome to America where we have:

...one nation under super-secret-surveillance with liberty and justice for the top 1%
Genders
Love, Tolerance, Enlightenment
06:48 PM on 10/05/2011
"They are tasked with finding at least $1.2 trillion in spending cuts over the next decade, "

Really? I thought they were supposed to look for revenue too.
08:36 AM on 10/06/2011
Revenue is taxes. They have have enough of that now cut spending. Starting with this giant Gov and all its useless Departments. This will be a JOKE!
Genders
Love, Tolerance, Enlightenment
04:09 PM on 10/06/2011
We have the lowest tax rates on the rich since before the great depression. Including capital gains. The concentration of wealth is the greatest since the depression, and that in it self is a threat to the republic.

The citizens safety net, green energy investments and infrastructure, did not bankrupt us.

The wars, the Bankster's fraud and the ungrateful rich's shortfall robbed the citizens and the world.

Thus the solution is: end the wars, cut the MIC 90%, arrest the banksters for fraud and seize their assets and records for audits, and tax the super rich for the system that enabled their wealth and their very survival, like Ike did when the USA became the greatest economy in human history.

"When economic power became concentrated in a few hands, then political power flowed to those possessors and away from the citizens, ultimately resulting in an oligarchy or tyranny." John Adams

"I hope we shall . . . crush in its birth the aristocracy of our monied corporations." Thomas Jefferson
05:56 PM on 10/05/2011
Aren' t these secret meetings illegal? They don' t involve US national security. God, who knows?
Sergeant
Dress Right
06:03 PM on 10/05/2011
The Congress can create it's own rules and Congress does not have to obey it's own laws.
05:47 PM on 10/05/2011
Maybe they can get something done without the media jumping all over every nuanced statement and without people whining and crying and begging and misrepresenting every idea thrown out on the table. As far as I'm concerned that's a big part of the problem in Washington, D.C.... too much media hype and too much politicking for the cameras.
05:39 PM on 10/05/2011
If reporters want to know what is going on at these meetings they could probably ask the lobbyist and special interest they work for as they most likely are setting the agenda.
08:37 AM on 10/06/2011
Your right about that. Those same that Obama was going to get out of the way.
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05:37 PM on 10/05/2011
The meetings should be in secret. The public doesn't need to see the sausage being made.
05:55 PM on 10/05/2011
That’s right, there is nothing to worry about, the people that count are certainly in the loop and being consulted daily.
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12:41 AM on 10/06/2011
The problem is - we're the ingredients in the sausage.
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nofriendofrepublicans
Mother friendly.
05:27 PM on 10/05/2011
Looks like Washington needs Florida's Sunshine law.
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heartsmindsvision
05:27 PM on 10/05/2011
We already have a congress. Why do we need a super duper 12 man congress. They don't represent me. It sounds like a oligarchy.
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v650
05:25 PM on 10/05/2011
Most transparency of any congress! Every one of them should be voted out.
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jcd8822
05:25 PM on 10/05/2011
SO, this is more of the same. What are they scared of?