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Harry Reid Busts Up Senate Precedent

Harry Reid

First Posted: 10/06/11 10:15 PM ET Updated: 12/06/11 05:12 AM ET

WASHINGTON -- Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid (D-Nev.) led Democrats in a precedent-setting move on Thursday evening, shutting down an effort by Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell (R-Ky.) to hijack the floor and force the chamber to move away from debate on Chinese currency manipulation and instead vote on President Obama's American Jobs Act.

The move raises all sorts of questions: Why would the Republicans, rather than the Democrats, be insisting on having the vote that the president has been demanding for weeks? What does Reid's move say about the filibuster? And why is the Senate debating a bill on Chinese currency anyway, one that the White House opposes and stands little chance in the House?

Senate Republicans, aware that some Democrats facing reelection are unwilling to vote for a jobs package that includes tax hikes on the wealthy, wanted to stage a vote to demonstrate the lack of party unity. But the chamber had already voted to move forward on a bill aimed at curtailing Chinese currency manipulation, which depresses the price of Chinese imports and hurts American manufacturers. That meant the chamber was in what's known as a post-cloture period.

McConnell moved to suspend the rules and shift debate over to the American Jobs Act. Reid argued that doing so amounted to another filibuster, because it required 60 votes to move back to the original bill, and so therefore was out of order. Sen. Mark Begich (D-Alaska), who happened to be the presiding officer at the time, asked the Senate parliamentarian what he thought. The parliamentarian advised Begich that McConnell's motion was in order.

Reid then appealed the ruling, following a script that advocates of ending the filibuster wrote long ago. What some senators call the "constitutional option," and what others call the "nuclear option," involves as a first step appealing a ruling that a filibuster is in order. The second step is to defeat a motion to table that appeal, which is exactly what happened next, with all but one Democrat sticking with Reid. (Sen. Ben Nelson (D-Neb.) voted against Reid; Sen. Barbara Boxer (D-Calif.) didn't vote.)

With the chair overruled, McConnell's motion was declared out of order, setting a narrow precedent that motions to suspend the rules are out of order during a post-cloture period.

But it also set a more important precedent. The advice of the parliamentarian is considered sacrosanct in the Senate. Reid's decision to overrule him opens a gate to similar efforts that could also be done by majority vote. Republicans were quickly threatening to use the new power once they return to the majority. (Reid was a proponent of filibuster reform in 2010, but didn't pursue an effort earlier this year to reduce the number of votes needed in the Senate to move legislation forward.)

"McConnell likes to think of himself as a parliamentary wizard, but he had his lunch eaten twice today by Harry Reid," said a Senate Democratic aide.

A spokesman for McConnell argued that Democrats only took the dramatic step to avoid embarrassment, and were trying to spin the developments as principled. McConnell, he said, always intended to try to have the extra votes.

Sen. John Cornyn (R-Texas) later tweeted that Reid's move to rein in McConnell was "tyranny."

The collision was set up after McConnell confidently predicted Wednesday night that the China currency measure would fail.

But sources familiar with negotiations over the vote said McConnell failed to account for how determined some of his own members were to pass the currency measure, including Sens. Lindsey Graham (R-S.C.) and Jeff Sessions (R-Ala.) -- both of whom have industries in their states harmed by China's trade edge.

"Graham and Sessions went and whipped behind McConnell's back, and they got people to switch," a staffer said.

McConnell then apparently settled on a consolation prize of forcing the Democrats to take tough post-cloture votes, including on the president's jobs bill and on a measure to bar the EPA from regulating farm dust.

McConnell initially wanted 10 votes, and Democrats were willing to give him five. They ultimately settled on seven, a Democratic source said, and they told McConnell which ones they would accept.

That left the Democratic leaders in a sour mood to begin with, but then McConnell tried to insist on the farm dust measure offered by Sen. Mike Johanns (R-Neb.).

"We accepted the embarrassing vote on the president's jobs bill," a Democratic source said. "Then he tried to jam the farm dust bill up our ass."

The problem for Democrats with the dust measure is that many don't want to undercut the EPA, and they also don't want to be made to look ridiculous by seeming to regulate natural dust at the expense of jobs. The EPA, however, has insisted the entire issue of regulating farm dust is a "myth." The agency has proposed toughening the standards to regulate particulate matter in the air.

Reid's move Thursday, in that context, is less abusive of Senate precedent than it first appears. The current rules create a situation in which two 60-vote thresholds must be met before a bill can pass, the first to end debate and the second to move to final passage. McConnell's move to suspend the rules could have created additional 60-vote hurdles, clearly in violation of the spirit of the post-cloture period, which is intended to be a short stretch until moving to final passage.

"What just took place here is an effort to expedite what goes on around here," Reid said, although he admitted he could be wrong.

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WASHINGTON -- Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid (D-Nev.) led Democrats in a precedent-setting move on Thursday evening, shutting down an effort by Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell (R-Ky.) to hij...
WASHINGTON -- Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid (D-Nev.) led Democrats in a precedent-setting move on Thursday evening, shutting down an effort by Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell (R-Ky.) to hij...
 
 
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07:13 PM on 11/24/2011
the video from the press conference shows Obama once again portraying himself as the savior while suggesting that the GOP needs to be run out of town...

translation = those that do not agree with me
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john whalen
09:53 AM on 10/20/2011
Funny how you people defend Reid, while he openly says that private sector jobs are in good shape and we have to give more attention to public sector jobs!!
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R.W. Sanders
Numerous questions, too little expertise
12:05 AM on 10/14/2011
And while they fiddled, the nation burned.
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CaptainRenault
Here to keep an eye on the rascals.
06:20 PM on 10/11/2011
I like it when Reid eats McConnell's lunch.

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rickie007
i am in 2% but vote democrat
04:36 AM on 10/26/2011
VERY GOOD ,SIR A OLE SCHOOL RIGHT ON FOR YOU
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repuglycon
Desert Bird
01:40 PM on 10/10/2011
I like to let the Blue Dogs vote to see where they stand. Then we can start running primary candidates against them just like the Tea Party.
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SueMVetforObama2
With Liberty and justice for all
11:06 AM on 10/10/2011
The Senate F'Busted America on Sep 28, 2010. Creating American Jobs and Ending Offshoring Act (S. 3816)
04:44 PM on 10/09/2011
Funny, I thought the republicans were the "party of no"
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SueMVetforObama2
With Liberty and justice for all
11:04 AM on 10/10/2011
Funny, you are.

You attach bills to bills to get your way.
06:19 PM on 10/10/2011
Democrats have never done that have they?
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Ezio
How can we win when fools can be kings?
02:17 PM on 10/09/2011
Looks like he is getting desperate.
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sal ear
Hey, how are you?
10:12 PM on 10/09/2011
No it looks like he beat Repubs - using their type of tactics & strategy. Regardless, it's good to see our Democrats 'work the system' - It's long past necesary! The recalcitrant and extremist Republicans in Congress have caused any form of progress to grind to a HALT.

Many accuse Obama of failure......history will decide whether he's ultimately a failed President.

HOWEVER, it is enraging to watch ridiculous zealots & Boen-heads in Congress de-rail & fight any/all of Obama's efforts, just because (1) It makes them cry; OR (2) Repubs are content to watch US Citizens (and the Country!) face financial ruin - there are NO JOBS available for the unemployed!!! Repubs fail to GRASP this & NEED TO BE HELD ACCOUNTABLE!

RE: Obama - he'll be responsible for GRASPING this TOO LATE......
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john whalen
08:26 PM on 10/24/2011
Dems have been abusing and working the system for way too long now!!!!
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James Bridges
Blue Texan
10:18 AM on 10/09/2011
How about a House of Lords? Are we on the road to that already?
12:11 PM on 10/09/2011
As opposed to the House of Corruption?!
06:14 PM on 10/09/2011
You mean 1600 Pennsylvania Ave?
04:08 AM on 10/09/2011
"to hijack the floor and force the chamber to move away from debate on Chinese currency manipulation and instead vote on President Obama's American Jobs Act."

Like I aid before, nobody can talk trash about China or the FED without being attacked.
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se72748
06:04 PM on 10/08/2011
Dems all to often remind me of those kids in school who would never stand up for there selves.You protect them from bully's ,urge them to fight back an after a while you just give them up as hopeless .I would like to see Obama and the dems stand up and fight the bully's,in this case ,the republican/tea party militias and their owner handlers.
04:10 AM on 10/09/2011
JEEZ! So you don't think this has anything to do with China?!?! Our national debt and our own manipulation of currency value?!?!

what planet do you come from?!?
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sal ear
Hey, how are you?
10:15 PM on 10/09/2011
Um....Did Reid not just show some B#%ls? What am I missing here?
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Gupdiver
We are in a period of Ineptocracy!
04:42 PM on 10/08/2011
What tangled webs both sides are weaving, this will come back to bite Reid one day. What goes around, comes around they say.
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OLJW00
right is right
08:20 PM on 10/09/2011
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Mr Universe
Shiny, let's be bad guys
03:03 PM on 10/08/2011
Give the Dems 60 seats in the Senate and win back the House. It's the only way we'll ever see anything get done. And do it before the Republicans destroy the country.
04:46 PM on 10/09/2011
Reid quashed the vote on the jobs bill that Obama and you liberals continually say the republicans are holding up. How do you blame this on the republicans?
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Mr Universe
Shiny, let's be bad guys
04:51 PM on 10/09/2011
McConnell tried to get it in before the provision to fund it with the surtax on the wealthy. Essentially an unfunded mandate that would have no teeth.
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OLJW00
right is right
02:20 PM on 10/08/2011
Why don't they get rid of the 60 vote majority? Because of it, nothing gets done in the Senate. The senators have become useless.
04:11 AM on 10/09/2011
that's the point!
driller7530
Just a RETIRED Oilfield Cowboy
12:40 PM on 10/08/2011
none of this makes any difference , or sense .
you cannot increase jobs while exporting them , you cannot manipulate any other country's currency by any legal mens nd you cannot throw money at problems and expect them to go away.
we must close loopholes that do not tax imports , especially Imports made by american companies that exported jobs to keep from paying a living wage to an american employee. CHINA should be the last place we import anything FROM with an obvious safety record like thiers (lead painted toys being the most publicly obvious). stop subsidizing foreign companies to build here while taxing any domestic competition. and get the hell off the "Global Economy" Farce that is currently the leding cause of domestic unempoyment. yes we are members of the global economy , but we are not solely responsible for maintaining the rest of the world. and we cannot export ALL of our jobs.we have to work too, elstwise they have no market here to sell in because we cannot afford to pay. and straighten out the mess made by the repeal of glass-Segal to stop any further need for bail-outs.