iPhone app iPad app Android phone app Android tablet app More

Joe Biden On Bank Of America: 'At A Minimum, They Are Incredibly Tone Deaf'


First Posted: 10/06/11 12:45 PM ET Updated: 12/06/11 05:12 AM ET

WASHINGTON -- With protests against economic injustice continuing in New York City and spreading across the country, Vice President Joe Biden said on Thursday that he can't blame people for feeling "frustrated" and criticized Bank of America's new debit card fees as the type of "tone deaf" move that the public is angry about.

"You can't blame the American people for feeling an overwhelming sense of frustration at this moment, when they're hanging on by their fingernails, and all of a sudden, [the banks] come along and say, 'Okay, even though we're going to make a healthy profit next year, we think we have to have this additional income coming in,'" said Biden in a speech at the Washington Ideas Forum at the Newseum in Washington, D.C.

Biden was referring to Bank of America's announcement that it will be charging customers a $5 monthly fee to use their debit cards. The bank argues the move was necessary after Congress passed legislation, championed by Sen. Dick Durbin (D-Ill.), that reduced the amount of money banks could charge businesses each time a debit card is swiped.

"At a minimum, they are incredibly tone deaf. At a minimum," added Biden. "At a maximum, they are not -- they are not -- paying their fair share of the bargain here, and middle class people are getting killed."

Biden also commented on the Occupy Wall Street protests, saying the rallies are happening primarily because the "bargain has been breached with the American people" -- and they have a right to be angry.

"The core is the American people do not think the system is fair or on the level. That is the core of what you're seeing on Wall Street," he said. "There's a lot in common with the Tea Party. The Tea Party started why? TARP. They thought it was unfair, we're bailing out the big guys. What are the people up on the other side of the spectrum saying? The same thing."

Moderator David Gregory, host of NBC's "Meet the Press," asked whether it was justifiable for Bank of America to implement the new fee, since the administration is imposing more regulations on the financial industry and banks still need to figure out a way to make a profit. Biden rejected his assertion, comparing banks to a kid without a license stealing a car.

"That's a little bit like saying to my kid -- I say, 'Here's the deal now. I not only don't want you driving a car when you don't have a license, and I've now caught you and I'm stopping you from doing that.' And my son says, 'Well I can't do that anymore, so now I've got to steal a car. I've got to get around somehow,'" said Biden.

On Wednesday, also speaking at the Washington Ideas Forum, Treasury Secretary Tim Geithner said Wall Street's frosty relationship with and lack of gratitude toward President Obama was "inexplicable," given that the administration implemented policies that saved the financial industry from a crisis of its own creation.

Biden framed the argument a bit differently, saying it's the American people, not the administration, that Wall Street should be thanking and helping to lift up out of tough economic times.

"The American people know ... the reason the CEO of Bank of America or any other body in that business is in the business is because they -- that guy making 50,000 bucks -- bailed him out. Bailed him out. Put his financial security on the line when his government said, 'We're going to come up with a trillion plus dollars to bail him out,'" said Biden.

"Then [the banks] turn around and they say, by the way, we're projected only to make ... $17 billion next year, but you know what? The middle-class folks, these guys with these debit cards, are on their back, and we're going to charge them 5 bucks more to use their debit card."

FOLLOW HUFFPOST POLITICS
Subscribe to the HuffPost Hill newsletter!
WASHINGTON -- With protests against economic injustice continuing in New York City and spreading across the country, Vice President Joe Biden said on Thursday that he can't blame people for feeling "f...
WASHINGTON -- With protests against economic injustice continuing in New York City and spreading across the country, Vice President Joe Biden said on Thursday that he can't blame people for feeling "f...
WASHINGTON -- With protests against economic injustice continuing in New York City and spreading across the country, Vice President Joe Biden said on Thursday that he can't blame people for feeling "f...
WASHINGTON -- With protests against economic injustice continuing in New York City and spreading across the country, Vice President Joe Biden said on Thursday that he can't blame people for feeling "f...
 
 
  • Comments
  • 198
  • Pending Comments
  • 0
  • View FAQ
Comments are closed for this entry
View All
Favorites
Recency  | 
Popularity
Page: 1 2 3 4 5  Next ›  Last »  (5 total)
photo
HUFFPOST SUPER USER
Hoop Ojoop
08:44 AM on 10/18/2011
This from the administration that ignored the economy for two years? The same administration that mishandled more than $800 billion and joked, "Shovel-Ready Was Not as Shovel-Ready as We Expected'.
This comment has been removed due to violations of our [Guidelines]
photo
HUFFPOST SUPER USER
Marc Lewis
A 'Wobbly' Progressive for 50yrs
03:31 PM on 10/08/2011
Good on you Joe! This part of Clan Finnegan is proud of you for speaking out!
photo
SparkyDash
Still a BFD
12:35 AM on 10/07/2011
Thank you Joe Biden!
This user has chosen to opt out of the Badges program
photo
12:44 AM on 10/07/2011
Yup...x 2
HUFFPOST SUPER USER
Jim NLN
Hillary-Frank 2016
04:19 PM on 10/06/2011
"That is the core of what you're seeing on Wall Street," he said. "There's a lot in common with the Tea Party"

-Biden can be so mean at times.
HUFFPOST COMMUNITY MODERATOR
indc
03:48 PM on 10/06/2011
Thanks for standing by an helping bail them out Joe, then watching as they repeatedly screwed more and more people. You, Obama, and Geithner are a disgrace. If you had any regard for regular people and this country you would all resign immediately. What a bunch of hypocritical excuse makers, you need to form a club.
photo
VotingPresent
Read in all57states
02:59 PM on 10/06/2011
The admitted plagiarist is telling BOA how to run their business.
This user has chosen to opt out of the Badges program
LizM
My micro-bio is too long for this space.
10:21 PM on 10/06/2011
It is unwise to comment on subjects you know nothing about. Would you like to guess why?
photo
HUFFPOST SUPER USER
KeyInfo
Realist
02:53 PM on 10/06/2011
I think America needs to send a message to BofA. I'd say give yourself a week but next Friday, October 14th, let's all go close our BofA accounts. Let's visit the locations and withdraw our full balances. It would be like a run on the Bank and it makes me wonder it they could survive the run on funds. Let's show them that this nickel and dime decision to charge for debit card usage is a costly one. BTW- BofA employs about 250,000 employees and every employee gets free banking. That is, no service charges for anything. If they would charge their employees think of how much more money they could be raking in. Get ready BofA employees your free ride is O-V-E-R!
09:56 PM on 10/06/2011
This is a direct result of the Dodd Frank bill restricting banks' "swipe fees." Swipe fees were a large part of banks' revenues. Now that it's been affected by this new law, banks have to get creative in finding new ways to recoup the lost revenue. And B of A is only the most recent bank to do this. Wells Fargo implemented a similar fee months ago. Maybe we should all close our accounts there as well?
photo
Medicine13ear
Joy cometh in the morning.
07:40 AM on 10/07/2011
Banks make money from loaning out money. The "swipe fees" (aptly named) were banksters GOUGING businesses -- Congress stepped in to stop that, and now bansters are bleating "the evil govmit is MANDATING that we swipe the money from the customers" because, heaven knows, they HAVE to GOUGE someone!!!

Think of these "fees" as NEW TAXES that the bank is imposing on businesses and customers. New taxes to fund the banks new disservice to you -- NOT LENDING MONEY.

Why are you in favor of NEW TAXES on small business and fellow Americans?
photo
Medicine13ear
Joy cometh in the morning.
07:47 AM on 10/07/2011
And yes, if you don't like being GOUGED by your bank, close those accounts and put your money in a CREDIT UNION or community bank that has more respect for its customers.
This user has chosen to opt out of the Badges program
photo
judesuper
An Arizonan, a voter, & a snarky progressive!
02:42 PM on 10/06/2011
Bank CEO Argues Company Has 'Right To Make A Profit''

Yeah, 13% higher profits now, then before the regulations were in effect! Nice (snark)

Bank of America = Bank of WallStreetGreed!

It amazes me that BOA has any customers at all.
09:59 PM on 10/06/2011
Bank of America is headquartered in Charlotte, North Carolina, literally hundreds of miles from Wall Street.
photo
Medicine13ear
Joy cometh in the morning.
07:55 AM on 10/07/2011
And Stockholm is literally thousands of miles away, but its syndrome is still thriving in the remaining BofA customers!
12:25 PM on 10/07/2011
Where in the constitution does it say that B of A has a right to make a profit? Show me, please.
photo
VotingPresent
Read in all57states
02:28 PM on 10/06/2011
The man who did not even know that Vann Jones was his Green Jobs advisor is now telling BOA how to run their business. Priceless. Nice pick Obama.
This user has chosen to opt out of the Badges program
photo
12:46 AM on 10/07/2011
Obama made an excellent choice in Biden; love Joe :)
photo
Medicine13ear
Joy cometh in the morning.
08:05 AM on 10/07/2011
That's BravoFoxtrotDelta Biden to you! I love him even more for hitting exactly the right tone on this issue.

And now I have made an excellent choice in becoming your fan. : )
HUFFPOST SUPER USER
Botany5000
02:26 PM on 10/06/2011
Biden to Fifth Graders: It's All Bush's Fault...
The right venue for Biden.
12:26 PM on 10/07/2011
He couldn't get through to you kindigartners.
photo
HUFFPOST SUPER USER
ajax2
02:15 PM on 10/06/2011
Joe Biden is a corporate criminal. He had a huge hand in dismantling protections against usury.
This user has chosen to opt out of the Badges program
LizM
My micro-bio is too long for this space.
10:22 PM on 10/06/2011
How so?
photo
HUFFPOST SUPER USER
Tierce
We need less government! That empowers the ppl!
02:15 PM on 10/06/2011
Nice for a change. Sounds like he is supportive of the people. Bernanke also.
02:09 PM on 10/06/2011
Agree with Biden. Bank of America is indifferent to anything other than its profit margins. "Tone deaf" is a good way to put it, so is "heavyhanded." Simplest of all is "greedy."
HUFFPOST SUPER USER
Botany5000
02:27 PM on 10/06/2011
In short a BUSINESS!
HUFFPOST SUPER USER
teachone
Knowledge is Power
02:06 PM on 10/06/2011
Thank you Vice President Biden for being honest, ethical, moral, showing integrity,standing against BOA!! This fee is not necessary, but simply revenge for the new law Senator Durbin passed. Wallstreet/Big Business/ Republicans/Teaparty/Filthy weatlhy all are extremely vengeful (as they are not of the lord) and that is why businesses are deliberately moving jobs out of this country, deliberately not hiring the american people or creating new jobs, direct cause of the current unemployment rate in this country, they are deliberately raising fees on all bank products in order to get revenge on our government and the people, they are deliberately blocking all bills sent to them from our President to get revenge on him and the people of this country and to destroy him and all of us!! The facts are; these people are full of hate, evil, corruption, vengefulness, they are takers, extremely selfish and narcistic, sociopaths, they are control freaks, dominating and dictating, they are extremely insecure, have no confidence, bullies, they are addicted to money, alcohol, drugs, sex, power, control, because they are totally disconnected from God, intellectually and spiritually ignorant, they need psychiatric help and spiritual counseling, most if not all should be sitting in a jail for life! They are quite dangerous to society, as you can see by their actions, and are the very reason things are the way they are in this country and worldwide!! To fix all problems, these individuals must be removed from the financial and government sectors!!
10:02 PM on 10/06/2011
Who is "they?" In your rambling, you don't really address who it is that should be removed. Is it all bankers? All politicians?
photo
Medicine13ear
Joy cometh in the morning.
08:25 AM on 10/07/2011
Well, for one, I'd venture you is they. (P.S. cogent compelling words that don't fit on a bumper sticker is not "rambling" -- it's sentences, paragraphs . . . discourse.)
This user has chosen to opt out of the Badges program
photo
12:47 AM on 10/07/2011
Nice post..