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Meatless Monday's Peggy Neu On The Health And Environmental Benefits Of Part-Time Vegetarianism

Meatless Mondays

First Posted: 10/10/2011 11:44 am Updated: 12/ 9/2011 4:12 am

Have you avoided your meat today?

More and more people are going vegetarian -- at least part-time -- as they join a movement that suggests even a small change in their diet can pay dividends for both their health and the health of the planet.

Sid Lerner, founder of the Monday Campaigns, which devote Mondays to various healthy behaviors, launched the non-profit Meatless Monday initiative in 2003 with the help of the Johns Hopkins School of Public Health. The program provides information and suggestions for healthy, environmentally friendly alternatives to meat -- even offering a free recipe widget and tailored kits to enable groups or individuals to start their own campaigns. (Also included, of course, are downloadable posters of cute cows, pigs and chickens with catchy slogans like "March to a different drumstick. Go meatless on Mondays.") Turns out, voluntarily starting the week meat-free is an American tradition that goes back nearly a century: The federal government promoted the practice during World Wars I and II to aid U.S. and Allied efforts.

Now, participation in the modern incarnation of Meatless Monday has gone viral. Followers are exchanging plant-based recipes on Facebook, and hospitals, schools and restaurants have begun promoting meat-free alternatives.

At last week's inaugural SXSW Eco conference in Austin, Texas, HuffPost sat down with Meatless Monday president Peggy Neu to discuss the effort's origins, its progress and the challenges that remain at the intersection of food, environment and public health.

What inspired the campaign? And why Monday?

The number one thing is health. We found in our research that this is the primary reason people are interested in cutting back on meat. The idea was really born with the release of the Healthy People 2010 report from the Surgeon General, which recommended lowering meat consumption by 15 percent in order to cut down on saturated fat. Sid Lerner recognized that 15 percent works out to about one day a week. So rather than people having to figure out how to cut back a little every day, the idea was to just do it once a week. It's very easy, and it's memorable. Just that little change can make a big difference for a range of health concerns. Eating too much meat is linked to cancer, diabetes, obesity and heart disease -- the main effect of saturated fat. Really, it's all about moderation.

How might going meatless part-time help address the world's dual concerns of hunger and obesity?

The Philippines recently started a Meatless Monday campaign as part of their attempt to address this double disease burden of malnutrition and hunger, which affects 25% of population, and obesity, which is also increasingly an issue in the developing world. As these countries start adopting the Western diet of a lot of meat and fast food, those chronic diseases we see in our country -- from heart disease to diabetes -- start to come up. At the same time, there is all this grain that we use to feed livestock, which we could use to feed people instead. That could make a huge difference. The Philippines, with their great biodiversity, has tried to focus on growing indigenous vegetables. Being able to eat local and not be dependent on centralized food systems can also go a long way in addressing both of these issues.

How does the environment benefit from this shift in food choices?

The environmental benefits of reducing meat consumption are part of what made the movement really take off over the last few years. There's more and more awareness, particularly in regards to industrial meat production and its use of so much grain, water and fossil fuels -- which are required to get the grain to the feedlots. More and more, that is becoming a mainstream issue. A recent poll out from the U.S. Farmers and Ranchers Alliance indicated that 79 percent of people wanted farmers and ranchers to be growing food and raising livestock in ways that are healthy. A majority, 72 percent, really didn't know where their food came from or how it was produced. Antibiotic resistance and the use of chemicals in antibiotics was one of the main concerns. With the Farm Bill coming up, people are getting out there and discussing these issues. And as these discussions go on, consumers are becoming more aware and realizing that they can make up their own minds about what they should eat.

What connections exist, if any, between these concerns and the recent cantaloupe recall? Given that livestock have even been implicated in illnesses associated with produce, could production changes on the farm also make fruits and veggies safer?

Once things become so concentrated -- when we get away from local, smaller scale farms -- there's a lot more that can go wrong. According to all sorts of polls, food safety really tops the list of concerns. I love cantaloupe. But it's like the Alar Scare with apples back in 1980s, which cut people off of apples for a while. That's the effect of something like that. And it's unfortunate, especially when it happens with healthy fruits and vegetables.

What's next? Do you see your meatless campaign going beyond Monday?

It's stunned us how successful Meatless Monday has been. It has spread across the world, with 21 countries now doing some version of it. We just did a poll: We've reached 50 percent awareness in the U.S., and 27 percent of those people said Meatless Monday had influenced their decision to cut back on meat. It's spreading in restaurants with big celebrity chefs like Mario Batali, as well as in small local restaurants. We're not saying that after you go meatless one day, you should then do Tuesday, Wednesday and Thursday too. And because it's Monday, it doesn't tell you what to do, it just tells you when to do it. We're all about taking those small steps. It makes sense to people to cut back on meat, and this is a fun, easy way to do it.


CORRECTION: A previous version of this article had Neu stating that 121 countries participated in Meatless Mondays. The correct number is 21.

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07:00 AM on 10/18/2011
Frankly, this article is another push on the organic agenda.
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elcerritan
My bio is not micro
11:33 AM on 10/18/2011
Sorry, but "organic" is a completely different issue.
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10:47 AM on 10/15/2011
Sorry HP, it's only grass fed, non CAFO'd meat mondays for me.
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Chuck Bluestein
Always searching for latest health breakthrough
11:40 PM on 10/12/2011
The U.S. National Library of Medicine says "Individuals with high intakes of dietary fiber appear to be at ►significantly◄ lower risk for developing coronary heart disease, stroke, hypertension, diabetes, obesity, and certain gastrointestinal diseases. Increasing fiber intake lowers blood pressure and serum cholesterol levels." http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/19335713

Another page on this library says "It [fiber] adds bulk to your diet and makes you feel full faster, helping you control your weight. Fiber helps digestion and helps prevent constipation." What does this have to do with the above? What foods have fiber? All plant foods (many still alive like carrots growing a top) have plenty of fiber as long as it was not processed by man, where they take some out. All the animal foods (dead animals) have no fiber at all.

It is much more efficient to grow food and feed it to people than to grow food to give to animals which people eat. All animal foods need to be refrigerated. That requires energy like from gasoline on the trucks. Fruits like watermelon and many others need no refrigeration. Many vegetables like potatoes do not need refrigeration. So eating plant foods is more green than eating dead animals.
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elcerritan
My bio is not micro
06:09 PM on 10/13/2011
First, I don't know anyone who eats meat who also doesn't eat vegetable and fruits, so what's the point of your fiber comments? In any event, fiber may be desirable, but it isn't actually ESSENTIAL for human nutrition. Do you know what IS? Vitamin B12. And there's no plant source for THAT.

Know what else is essential for humans to survive? Proteins and fats. Humans can't survive without them, in contrast to carbohydrates, which aren't essential at all - they're just a relatively "cheap" source of fuel, and in excess contribute more to obesity/diabetes/metabolic syndrome than any amount meat does. (By the way, I'm not a "low carb-er" or a "paleo" advocate. I'm just stating a FACT about human physiology and metabolism.) And, yes, there are plant sources of proteins and fats, but a much smaller percentage of any plant food consists of these ESSENTIAL nutrients than the percentage of meat that's made up of them, and a much higher percentage of most plants, especially grains, is made up of the inessential carbs. So how odd to be demonizing foods that contain a high percentage of ESSENTIAL nutrients, while touting foods that contain a high percentage of something humans don't REQUIRE at all.

Cont'd.
I-US
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07:05 PM on 10/13/2011
"By the way, I'm not a 'low-carber' or a 'paleo' advocate"--translation: I'm a low-carber, paleo-advocate as my attack on carbohydrates plainly makes clear who doesn't understand the role of energy in the human body.
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flowereater
Proceed, Governor . . .
06:19 AM on 10/14/2011
You've never met someone on the Atkins diet? Usually their breath is bad and they have a certain unpalatable hue to their skin.

And as far as not needing carbs, why don't you ask any athlete what they eat before a big competition?

We need so little B12 to survive (about 3 micrograms per day or less) and the liver can hold it for about 5 years so it really is not an issue for most vegans. In fact, there are super delicious "cheesy" sauces made from nutritional yeast that go great over some yummy noodles and broccoli. You will never find a multi-vitamin without B12 and even cows get it from eating grass and the soil that might be on the grass. Many foods are fortified with B-12.

It would serve you to lose your condescending tone and know-it-all affect. But it is interesting seeing you get ever increasingly defensive.

Sure we need fats and proteins. Did you ever hear of nuts and legumes? The latest science is finding that coconut oil is the best source of dietary fats. In fact, its medium-chain triglycerides are very digestible ramp up metabolism. It also does not become carcinogenic when used to cook like other oils and fats including canola, olive oil and animal fat.
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elcerritan
My bio is not micro
06:12 PM on 10/13/2011
Cont’d.

By the way, animals, particularly grazing ruminants like dairy cows and beef cattle, don't have to eat food that's been grown for them by humans. They can survive entirely on natural forage plants that CAN'T be eaten by humans, and they convert those plants into meat and milk that CAN. For people living in areas where the land is suitable only for grazing and crop cultivation is difficult or impossible -- which happens to be a very substantial percentage of the earth's surface -- there's nothing even slightly green about cultivating and eating plants instead of animals that can eat natural forage plants that humans cannot.

And as for your claim that "all animal foods need to be refrigerated," that would come as a surprise to people who lived at any time before the late 19th-early 2Oth C. in the developed world, and will come as a surprise to many people elsewhere in the world even today. You should read up on methods of food preservation - methods that don't even require electricity - and get your head outside your 21st C. urban/suburban bubble.
I-US
Beware the monsters lurking in word swamps.
07:06 PM on 10/13/2011
"that would come as a surprise to people who lived at any time before the late 19th-early 20th C. in the developed world"--translation: I have an unrealistic view of history and the role of progress in human health.
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SKonnery
04:38 PM on 10/12/2011
Contempt prior to investigation will leave man in everlasting ignorance.
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George From NYC
Warren in 2016
04:38 PM on 10/12/2011
While encouraging people to give up meat part time is a good thing, I do not want it to become a situation where eating meat is seen as being "socially irresponsible". I consider myself to be fiscally conservative and an extreme social liberal in my views. I have friends that are vegetarian and if that's what they choose then so be it. Don't make me feel guilty for loving my steak. In fact, many of my vegetarian friends look unhealthier than I do. Perhaps this can be explained by an iron deficiency? I do not know.

I think if people want to drink, let them drink. If people want to smoke cigarettes, then let them smoke. If people want to eat red meat, then let em.
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flacon
03:58 PM on 10/12/2011
Why wasn't friday chosen? You could get the Catholic church to go along and get the ball rolling. Millions of one-day vegetarians there for the taking.
TomP100
Got elk?
04:04 PM on 10/12/2011
They eat fish. And most of them only observe it during Lent.
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Counterintuitive
We'll steer by the beacon of our 100 year forecast
09:49 PM on 10/11/2011
The food I used to eat in my meat days cannot compare to the quality of food I eat as a vegetarian. I feel spoiled by how much better things taste.
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arneader
10:03 PM on 10/11/2011
Give me MEAT or give me death.
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Counterintuitive
We'll steer by the beacon of our 100 year forecast
10:32 PM on 10/11/2011
The two go hand in hand.
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flowereater
Proceed, Governor . . .
04:22 PM on 10/12/2011
change the "or" to "and"
12:52 AM on 10/12/2011
I agree!
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Mary Curtis
Author, vegetarian, seeker of truth
04:49 PM on 10/11/2011
Love the idea of "Meatless Mondays" I hope it catches on!
02:57 PM on 10/11/2011
In addition to elevating the risk of almost every known disease, giving you bad skin, making you a fatty and depressed; eating flesh is just too big of a losing proposition. End of story.

Unfortunately people are too lazy and selfish to even consider changing. That is their loss and too bad, but perhaps people that worthless aren't worth saving. It's hard to say or imagine why people are that shut down in their sleaziness; whatever.

Bottom line, have an open mind--you'll be amazed at what it can do. Peace and lasting Blessings....★☆✿❤❀★☆ ❣ ❤❥ ❣☼❂☆❣✦❤❥✧❦❧❖❤❥

http://www.webmd.com/heart-disease/news/20100816/red-meat-raises-heart-attack-risk
TomP100
Got elk?
10:14 PM on 10/11/2011
The kind of sanctimony and pretentiousness displayed in your post is precisely what turns people off to this idea. It's completely counterproductive.
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frank day
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03:45 PM on 10/12/2011
You got a Vegan badge !!! I love it.

Peace
04:06 PM on 10/12/2011
NONE of you get it.

That is why when you're dying of preventable diseases, and can't satisfy a woman sexually--you will know--for certain--that you have *only* yourself to blame.

Trying to educate the close-minded doesn't work; apologies if our frustration comes through sometimes.

Best.:)✧✦✧
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FaunaAndFlora
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12:02 AM on 10/12/2011
I'm not sure if the link you posted is telling the truth regarding the Nurses Health Study. It's my understanding that T. Colin Campbell criticized this study because the findings didn't support his "plant-based" diet. The epidemiologists in charge of the Nurses Health Study wrote a public rebuttal to Campbell that included these comments...

"By analyzing repeated measures of dietary data over 14 y of follow-up, we firmly rejected the hypothesis that high protein intakes increase the risk of ischemic heart disease. In contrast, our data suggest a modest inverse association for both animal and vegetable protein intake. This finding is compatible with results of metabolic studies indicating improved blood lipid profiles when protein replaces carbohydrates."

and...

"A survey of 65 counties in rural China, however, did not find a clear association between animal product consumption and risk of heart disease or major cancers."

http://www.ajcn.org/content/71/3/850.full
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Okey Umez
Yes i. Babylon gwon fall
01:08 PM on 10/11/2011
Like any other food group, there is nothing wrong with meat, so long as it is flushed in moderation.
02:43 PM on 10/11/2011
Right.
Except that's not true. It's not just another 'food group'--it's not food, it's living, breathing animals--just like your children, who do not deserve to be tortured and slaughtered.
And since eating the dead flesh makes you horribly unhealthy and fat--then that is all there is to it. Well done article.♔✧♕
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Okey Umez
Yes i. Babylon gwon fall
04:36 PM on 10/11/2011
I have no idea how to respond to that, except to say that you must be a very serious vegeterian. Okay, Taurus89.
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Dede Eagleburger
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04:45 PM on 10/11/2011
Okay, well, that's one more steak for me, then. Thanks!!
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flowereater
Proceed, Governor . . .
04:25 PM on 10/12/2011
flushed, as in down the toilet?
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Okey Umez
Yes i. Babylon gwon fall
04:48 PM on 10/12/2011
No, it's another way of saying, eaten in moderation. My attempt at humor, betrayeth me again.
11:43 AM on 10/11/2011
As someone who both raises beef and eats beef and other meats everyday I feel that beef is an important part of a healthy diet and has many benefits to the environment. Cattle allow us to harvest the grasslands that cover a fourth of the U.S. and convert it natural into a nutrient rich protein source that feeds millions everyday. Instead of skipping meat I will be having my usual 3 oz serving of lean beef (180 calories) instead of the alternative of a cup and a half of legumes (at twice the calories). To find some great recipes for your next Monday dinner visit beefitswhatsfordinner.com
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elcerritan
My bio is not micro
08:28 PM on 10/11/2011
You and I are on the same page (except I don't raise beef - I wish I did!)
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FaunaAndFlora
Daughter of Pan
12:20 AM on 10/12/2011
As a cattle farmer, you might enjoy these links. ;-)

The Savory Institute
http://www.savoryinstitute.com/

Saving The World; Good Management And The Peculiar And Beautiful Blessings Of Bovines
http://www.rangemagazine.com/features/spring-11/sp11-range-saving_the_world.pdf
10:27 PM on 10/10/2011
Instead of inching us towards vegetarianism, which is an unnatural abomination, we should do a better job of managing our population and the impact our shear numbers have on the planet.
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Debbie338
What we manifest is before us
11:33 AM on 10/11/2011
"An unnatural abomination." Are you a fundamentalist? That sounds like a Biblical argument.
02:51 PM on 10/11/2011
As you know--that's NOT true. The Human animal
IS vegetarian.
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Okey Umez
Yes i. Babylon gwon fall
05:25 PM on 10/11/2011
I believe she was referring to the Biblical analogy.
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elcerritan
My bio is not micro
08:29 PM on 10/11/2011
Pfft. Nonsense.
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Eric Mann
Do you want to be on the opposite side of Progress
09:56 PM on 10/10/2011
The environmental advantage claims of vegetarianism are specious at best. In fact, properly raised meat that is reared "on the range" actually converts previously non-agriculturally available land to land that supports food production. Well, ok, you could irrigate the heck out of it to grow your soybeans, or just put some cattle out there. Seems to me the latter choice is WAY better for the environment.
I-US
Beware the monsters lurking in word swamps.
11:46 AM on 10/11/2011
Pay attention, scientists, this poster has created a species of cattle that doesn't require water for survival!
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Eric Mann
Do you want to be on the opposite side of Progress
02:40 PM on 10/11/2011
And, you invented a soybean strain that does not require water either?
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elcerritan
My bio is not micro
08:31 PM on 10/11/2011
Most cattle actually do fill all or almost all their water needs through grazing, except in quite arid areas. They certainly don't require as much water as irrigated cropland.
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flowereater
Proceed, Governor . . .
04:28 PM on 10/12/2011
You don't raise meat. You raise animals.