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Herman Cain, Michele Bachmann Dodge Question On Robert Jeffress Calling Mormonism 'A Cult'

AP/The Huffington Post   First Posted: 10/09/11 01:19 PM ET Updated: 12/09/11 05:12 AM ET

(AP/The Huffington Post) WASHINGTON — Two Republican presidential candidates refused to say on Sunday whether they believe Mitt Romney, a Mormon, is a Christian.

Former Godfather's Pizza CEO Herman Cain declined to address the matter, saying he didn't want to get involved in brewing controversy over Romney's religion on CNN's "State of the Union."

"He's a Mormon, that much I know," Cain said. "I am not going to do an analysis of Mormonism versus Christianity for the sake of answering that. I'm not getting into that."

Elaborating on his posture toward the issue he said, "If that's what it looks like, that I'm dodging it, it's because it is not going to help us boost this economy. You know that's my number one priority."

Minnesota congresswoman Michele Bachmann also opted against answering the question, saying she considers the issue unimportant to the Republican presidential campaign.

"This is so inconsequential as far as this campaign is concerned," she said. "To make this a big issue is ridiculous right now, because every day I'm on the street talking to people. This is not what people are talking about."

According to Bachmann, the "real focus" is on "religious tolerance."

At the Values Voter Summit in Washington D.C. on Friday, Romney's religious faith landed in the spotlight when Rev. Robert Jeffress, a Texas pastor, introduced Republican presidential candidate Rick Perry at the event. HuffPost's Jon Ward relays background on what Jeffress had to say:

Jeffress also slyly played the Mormon card, hinting to the audience that because Romney is not an evangelical Christian -- he is a member of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints -- he is not as desirable a candidate for religious conservatives.

"In a few months, when the smoke has cleared, those of us who are evangelical Christians are going to have a choice to make," Jeffress said. "Do we want a candidate who is skilled in rhetoric, or one who is skilled in leadership? Do we want a candidate who is a conservative out of convenience, or one who is conservative out of deep conviction? Do we want a candidate who is a good moral person, or do we want a candidate who is a born-again follower of the Lord Jesus Christ?"

Perry, arriving on stage after Jeffress' introduction, said the pastor had "hit it out of the park."

In remarks to reporters after Perry's speech, Jeffress called the Mormon church "a cult," according to another reporter who was present.

Jeffress has made similar comments in the past.

Asked to weigh in on the remarks at the event by a CNN reporter, Cain initially said that he had "no comment." He refused to engage in criticism of Romney's religious beliefs.

When asked if the remarks were appropriate, Cain responded, "I don't think it's appropriate to say, but he said it. OK? He said it, but I don't want to get into that."

Rev. Jeffress defended his statements on CNN on Saturday. He said, "Mormonism has never been considered a part of evangelical historic Christianity."

The Perry campaign has distanced itself from the pastor's remarks. A spokesperson for the Texas governor's political operation told The Huffington Post that Perry "does not believe Mormonism is a cult."

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02:07 PM on 10/27/2011
When a presidential candidate avoids condemning one person’s disrespect for another’s religion – and calling any religion a cult is intentionally insulting – he or she is neither bright enough, nor morally strong enough to run for school superintendent. We really must raise our standards for public office.
03:37 AM on 10/13/2011
[Hi Huff: Here's something that greeted me today re LDS called a "cult"]

LDS a "cult"? What about the "rapture"?

by Bruce Rockwell

Mitt Romney, a Mormon, is "not a Christian" and Mormonism is a "cult," according to Rev. Robert Jeffress, pastor of the Dallas (TX) First Baptist Church.
His "cult" remark is based on his belief that the Latter Day Saints church (which didn't exist before 1830) is outside "the mainstream of Christianity."
But Jeffress hypocritically promotes the popular evangelical "rapture" (theologically the "any-moment pretribulation rapture") which is outside mainstream Christianity (Google "Pretrib Rapture Politics") and which also didn't exist before 1830 (Google "Pretrib Rapture Diehards" and "Pretrib Rapture Dishonesty")!
And there are 50 million American rapture cultists (some of whom turn Wikipedia into Wicked-pedia by constantly distorting the real facts about the rapture's bizarre, 181-year-old history) compared with only 14 million LDS members.
The most accurate documentation on the history of the same escapist rapture belief is found in the not-for-profit nonfiction book "The Rapture Plot" carried by online bookstores. The same 300-page work can also be borrowed through inter-library loan at any library.
06:57 PM on 10/11/2011
What religeon is Huckabee?

Two possible answers:

1. (Starts with a "C" and rhymes with "lazy")
2. (Starts with an "N" and rhymes with "but")

Ok 3,

3. (Starts with an "L" and (can someone think of something that rhymes with "lunatic?"))
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patters85
GOTP= All yap and no map!
07:29 AM on 10/11/2011
A separation of church and state in a modern society. Has a good ring to it.
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patters85
GOTP= All yap and no map!
07:21 AM on 10/11/2011
Don't ask a republican a question. Then the media will hold them to their answer. Ducking the real issues is a republican skill that hampers fake politicians like Cain an Bachmann. They know how to duck but have no idea how to cover. It's called being honest!
08:14 PM on 10/10/2011
I want to bear you my testimony being a boy who was raised in the LDS Church...
I believe in Jesus Christ with my whole heart. I Know that he was sent to this earth by God the Father to take upon himself the sins of the world. I Know that Jesus Christ died for us, so that we may be able to return to heaven once again, and I Know that Only through him, is this Salvation possible. The only way. I believe that our duty here on earth is to faithfully strive to be the most Christ-like individuals we can possibly be.
I am 18 years old, and I am a member of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints. I Believe In Jesus Christ. I am a Mormon, and without any doubt... I am a Christian.
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patters85
GOTP= All yap and no map!
07:26 AM on 10/11/2011
The problem with your beliefs is. Evangelicals see a small difference and they denounce small differences. I guess they see everyone else as less than human.
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Ron Weaver
Whatever it takes
04:56 PM on 10/10/2011
By definition all organized religions are cults. They have their place and that would be behind a closed door. Let society seek them out rather than the other way around.
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04:49 PM on 10/10/2011
One can buy Road Apples, like Allen and Jeffress, in a sack at any home improvement, they do wonders for the lawn. If you like a stronger smelling product, called Prorgressive Road Apples, you get larger bags and they are toxic enough to burn your lawn, beware of the damage they do, its not a noted item.
04:44 PM on 10/10/2011
Values voter. Intolerant, bigoted, teavangelical, ignorant, super-duper patriotic "real" American. Did I miss anything?
04:23 PM on 10/10/2011
"Do we want a candidate who is a good moral person, or do we want a candidate who is a born-again follower of the Lord Jesus Christ?"
I think what is being lost here in this controversy over Mormonism is the presumption of so many Americans, as reflected by this Jeffress dips**t, that the presidency is an office for Christians only. For those who would cling* to this notion that a religion should dictate government policy, that it should set the social agenda, perhaps you need to find a country that offers the theocracy you desire. It sure ain't American. These kinds of religious presumptions make me want to vomit.
*yes, I said cling
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ecyornagol
Loathe me, just don't bore me.
06:24 PM on 10/10/2011
Oh really. When's the last time this country didn't elect a Christian president? Maybe you're the one that should find the theocracy, or lack of, that you desire. Sorry, but you're still the oddball.
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MizzMaat
Turn off the TV and read a book
06:59 PM on 10/10/2011
There are some who would say JFK was not a christian. He was catholic. I personally don't care either way. My preference would be to elect someone who either admits he/she's an atheist or states they will respect the separation of church and state.
10:33 AM on 10/11/2011
Sorry it has taken me so long to respond. I've been busy looking for a theocracy or lack of that I desire. The fact that you have given me both options indicates that you really don't get it.
Now I wasn't going to go there, but since you brought it up, the US has elected lots and lots of Christian presidents. You're right about that. And what? Is there peace on earth? Justice for all? Affordable health care? Housing?
Such great strides for a Christian-only office.
Oddballs rule.
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happyblackman
Gotta have more cowbell baby!
04:03 PM on 10/10/2011
I think Mormons are cultists, and whenever they knock on my door, I give them my opinion and the address to my church. What they do with either is their business.
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MizzMaat
Turn off the TV and read a book
06:54 PM on 10/10/2011
Really? I've never had a Morman knock on my door. Magazine sellers - yes, vaccuum sellers - yes, Baptists - yes, Hare Krishnas - yes, but not Mormans.
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happyblackman
Gotta have more cowbell baby!
11:01 AM on 10/11/2011
It's part of their missions. They go everywhere in the world. I'm not beligerant to them, and have even sat down and listened a couple of times, but their history speaks for itself. I think they are a cult that came along at the right time in the countries history, and they have leveraged themselves a good piece of the country. If they were to start up now, they would be infiltrated by the FBI and disbanded.
08:33 AM on 12/08/2011
Hmmm..........I've never had a Mormon knock on my door either. I've never known them to actively seek converts. Where do you live, happyblackman?
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wanamoka
04:01 PM on 10/10/2011
What Jeffres did was call them all out. Politicians are politicians first and foremost. They will be what ever brand of Christian or religion you want them to be, for your vote..

I have been told why the reason non-Mormon religions do not believe Mormons are "true Christians" is because they believe the Book of Mormon is more important than the bible, unlike most protestant and maybe even Catholic religions. Hence, the cult label.

Granted its twisted but if Perry, Bachman, Cain really were the southern bible thumping believing Christians that they claim to be, they would have publicly agreed with Jeffers. Which tells me they would rather be elected than stand up for or defend their belief system .
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04:58 PM on 10/10/2011
What Jeffress, did was expose his own Stupidity. He plays the game well and one should know that he has accomplished with his subtle intentions.
03:46 PM on 10/10/2011
The GOP is in denial if it think the religious right in the party will vote for Romney. If he is somehow nominated, that will only be because the questions about his religion were effectively supressed. In the general election however, where everything is layed bare, the issue will come up, big time.
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04:58 PM on 10/10/2011
You must be all-knowing, is this Obama?
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pleasantlyny
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03:38 PM on 10/10/2011
Why not answer the question? I just dont get it... there is really only 1 of 3 answers...

1. Yes, they are christians
2. No, they are not christians
3. I do not know enough about the religion or their practice to tell you.

Why the hemming and hawing? I dont get it. Its not a trick gotcha question. If yo uask me are jewish people christian i would say NO. If you ask me are catholics christian i would say YES. Why the confusion from them?
03:32 PM on 10/10/2011
Judas conspired with Pharisees to betray Jesus so that the Pharisees could conspire with the Romans to put Jesus to death. It sounds like a conspiracy theory that is believed by conspiracy theorists. Oh that is so plausible. Just like believing that a cosmic Jewish zombie who was his own father wants to live inside of you so that he can replace the evil that is in you and in all persons because a rib woman was convinced by a talking snake to eat from a magic tree. How could any rational being doubt that?