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Obama's War On Terror: Civil Libertarians Decry Being 'Stabbed In The Back' By Awlaki Decision

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First Posted: 10/10/2011 6:49 pm Updated: 12/10/2011 4:12 am

WASHINGTON -- Civil libertarians are expressing dismay over a new report that names two prominent one-time critics of the abuse of presidential power as the forces behind a controversial memo authorizing Obama to assassinate an American citizen.

The memo, described Sunday in an article in The New York Times, was reportedly signed by David Barron and Marty Lederman, two law professors who frequently challenged President Bush's legal stances on his war powers before joining the Obama Office of Legal Counsel.

"It's always more painful for civil libertarians to be stabbed in the back by a friend," said Jonathan Turley, a scholar at George Washington University law school who has long been a fierce opponent of expansive interpretations of executive powers. "There's a real feeling of the Ides of March, that the Obama administration has enlisted civil libertarians to sort of do its dirty work."

The memo authorized the assassination of Anwar al-Awlaki, an American-born member of al-Qaida in the Arabian Peninsula who was killed two weeks ago in Yemen by an American drone strike. It concluded that Awlaki was a legal combatant in a conflict that had been authorized by Congress shortly after the 9/11 attacks, according to the Times report.

Several legal analysts and civil liberties groups contacted by The Huffington Post on Monday cautioned that without reading the memo itself, which remains classified, it would be impossible to fully analyze the legal basis of the ruling. Still, some argue that if the unlimited detention of an enemy combatant is unlawful, ordering his death -- without a judicial check -- certainly ought to be; others say al-Awlaki represented an imminent threat to the U.S., akin to a sniper on a rooftop, who could legally be killed by police.

But it was the attachment of Barron and Lederman's names in the story -- they were described as the memo's "principle" authors, with Barron having signed it -- that startled so many observers, particularly since it came on the heels of reports that a third prominent Bush critic, the State Department's legal adviser Harold Koh, had earlier defended Obama's decision to forego congressional approval before the Libya conflict.

"If there were two people you wouldn’t have expected to underwrite expansive new powers for the president, they would have been Harold Koh, who built his career arguing against the Imperial Presidency, and Marty Lederman, who, right up until the time he entered the Obama administration, repeatedly made the case against the Bush-era expansion of executive power," said Gene Healy, of the libertarian Cato Institute. "Talk about 'growing in office.'"

Writing regularly on the legal blog Balkanization, Lederman spent much of the later Bush years passionately and elegantly attacking the analysis underpinning Bush-era conclusions on unlawful wiretapping, indefinite detention, and torture.

In late 2006, for instance, he wrote a long post decrying what he saw as an unjustified and sketchy expansion of the definition of "unlawful enemy combatant"; the next year he suggested that officials who approved the use of torture may have broken specific laws.

Barron, for his part, co-wrote with Lederman a widely cited 2008 Harvard Law Review essay in which they contended that the war powers claimed by Bush had often exceeded the authorities historically granted to the executive.

Barron and Lederman, who have both left the administration, did not respond to emails requesting comment.

Some of the critics said that whatever the basis for the Awlaki ruling may have been, the decision to selectively release only parts of it -- and the names of two well-known civil libertarians as the authors -- followed a Bush-era precedent of keeping important legal decisions secret.

"We all denounced the Bush administration use of secret law -- secret memos giving them authority and then resisting demands to review them," said Turley, who is currently representing several members of Congress in a lawsuit challenging the Libya decision reportedly advocated by Koh. "The Obama administration is doing the same thing, strategically releasing parts of the memo or their conclusions."

But it was the seeming shift of yet another set of longtime critics that struck a chord.

"The legal academy is still reeling from the participation of so many law professors in the Bush abuses. I knew John Yoo" -- who famously scripted the memo authorizing the use of torture in the Bush years -- "before he went into the Bush administration -- we'd always been friendly, and we actually agreed on a bunch of things in the past. I was shocked when I first heard of his involvement in these things. It's always shocking to read about people like Koh and Lederman being so quickly corrupted by their involvement in government."

Eric Posner, a law professor at the University of Chicago, disagrees with such a stark outlook, telling HuffPost that the job of legal counsel to the president doesn't afford the same latitude as being an analyst or academic.

"It's a little glib to [call them hypocrites]," he said. "First, you need to know exactly what they wrote, and the second, more important point, is you just have to realize they've taken on a different role in the government. When you're in the OLC in the executive branch, you're an employee, you have a certain job, it's different from being a professor but is more like being in a firm. You can't go into a firm and say I'm only going to profess my own views."

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WASHINGTON -- Civil libertarians are expressing dismay over a new report that names two prominent one-time critics of the abuse of presidential power as the forces behind a controversial memo authoriz...
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mikey09 07:50 AM on 10/11/2011
So, the real change we got was an even bigger expansion of executve powers, and these lawyers were against enlarging executive powers before they were for enlarging executive powers...seems once in power, most find they like it and want more power, seems this adminstration is no different......soon cops in NYC, LA, Houston....will have drones as part of the police force......I saw where Jerry Brown is  Read More...
12:09 PM on 10/13/2011
For once I would tend to agree with them...being stabbed in the back is so impersonal.... they should be drone'd.
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Moxo
Our enemies are in the GOP.
11:09 AM on 10/12/2011
Moxo You mean "congrats to Obama for doing what Bush/Cheneycouldn't be bothered to do", which was to focus on actually getting terrorists.
posted Oct 11, 2011 at 21:36:56 Reply Link

stripes3325 Sour grapes. Saddam Hussein & KSM were not terrorists? The truth is always going to hurt. You gotta learn to be more tolerant & give credit where credit is due.
posted Oct 12, 2011 at 00:04:40
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DOH - then why did Bush befriend Qaddafi and take him of the "Supporter of Terrorism List".
After all, Saddam hadn'ty attacked America and Qaddafi had set up the bombing of Pan Am 103.

And why didn't Dub attack Iran? After all, Iran supports Hezbollah and Hezbollah bombed the US barracks in Beirut, killing 241 Americans as they slept.

Face it, YOUR BOY wanted fame as a "Warrior" and sent thousands of Americans to their deaths in Iraq to achieve it. Not to mention the tens of thousands of Americans maimed and brain-damaged as well.
09:07 AM on 10/12/2011
Liberals who feel "stabbed in the back" by the legal opinion of two of their own greenlighting political assassination don't seem to realize it's not about them or their personal ideas regarding human rights. As a leader in the real world and not just a theorist or professor, Obama must deal with situations which are not black and white. In his position he's going to be criticized no matter what decision he makes. His Republican adversaries know how to play the blame-game. His liberal critics don't even know how to do that well because they're always listening to the birds chirping in their ivory towers.
MWA1111
I'll let you set the tone for our conversation
08:41 PM on 10/12/2011
And I'm sure you have the same sympathies for Bush's administration???
mayanindependentspeak
Until now, I've never lived this long before
08:40 AM on 10/12/2011
If I read this correctly, the civil libertarians are upset that a self avowed and active enemy of the US, who also happened to be a US citizen, is not a legitimate target of our military because of his citizenship.

In a different scenario, if a US citizen attacks the White House, Camp David, Smithsonian, any federal building or personnel at all, a military installation or whatever, is it illegal to kill that person in response?

Maybe a lawyer or a civil libertarian could explain that to me.
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Lane Campbell
Say what?
01:56 AM on 10/12/2011
Let's see ... critics are upset because this guy al-Alwaki is American-born, so technically is an "American citizen". He's also an avowed terrorist, and as such is at war with America, his birthplace. I believe that's called "treason". And the penalty for high treason is...
11:36 PM on 10/11/2011
Don't these so-called 'civil libertarians' understand the difference between an 'American citizen' and an 'enemy combatant'?

On the one hand, Al-Awlaki WAS an American citizen, but, on the other hand, when he became a traitor to his country and began executing operations which resulted in the deaths of Americans, he was no longer an 'American citizen' because his conduct changed his status to that of an 'enemy combatant'.


The bottom line is this--99.99% of the American people are perfectly satisfied that we put a missile up this guy's backside because now it means he won't be killing any more Americans.
11:10 PM on 10/11/2011
Deciding to kill a terrorist is not the issue here. The issue is the frequent use of executive powers by President Obama to decide himself what he want to do without any consultation with the legislature.

President Obama has chagned laws for the EPA, SEC, FTC and FDA utilizing his executive powers without any discussion or vote by the legislature. He has been doing this since elected in 2008 when he had a 100% democratic legislature.

Presidetn Obama is smart enough to realize no one is going to question his actions because critics will be viewed by the media as racially motivated complaints.

If you will compare any past President with President Obama, not one previous chief executive has been given such extensive leeway.
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Moxo
Our enemies are in the GOP.
09:35 PM on 10/11/2011
Moxo What were those "pretty good ones?"

posted Oct 11, 2011 at 10:52:04 Reply Link

Ukridge Not all we did to help the Afghans defeat the Soviets was bad at all. We supported some pretty decent ones too, like Massoud. I've read about life under Soviet occupation in the norther stans they took after 1917. And, going back farther, what about the Marshal Plan?

posted Oct 11, 2011 at 20:57:42
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Yah, Massoud was a War-Lord we could work with - what a pity they we decided that some Arab named Bin Laden was even better to work with, so we trained him in counter-insurgency and gave him weapons and satellite phones!

As for the Marshall Plan - nothing to do with dictators but was one of the greatest economic success stories, along with the GI Bill. Good thing Marshall had a Democratic President backing him though.

Of course, the GOP TP now looks at the Marshall Plan as a failure, since it gave money to foreigners and revitalized the democracies that are now Germany and Japan.
06:05 PM on 10/11/2011
Viene ... Ah! que tuviera a alguien que me escuchara, que confome a mi firma el Todopoderoso mismo me respondiera! o que el individuo en el litigio conmigo hubiera escrito un documento mismo! De seguro yo lo llevari'a sobre el hombro; lo enlazari'a en derredor mi'o como una magnifica corona. El nu'mero de mis pasos le informari'a; como un caudillo me acercari'a a e'l. Si contra mi clamara mi propio suelo por socorro y a una lloraran sus surcos mismos; si su fruto he comido sin dinero, y al alma de sus duenos he hecho jadear, que en vez de trigo salga el yerbajo espinoso; y en vez de cebada, yerbajos hediondos. Para todos los poderosos del mundo, nacion u hombre es la misma cosa. Pedgar
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jacmed
71, female - whatever happened to common sense?
11:23 PM on 10/11/2011
Uh, pedro -- most of the posters (including me) only speak English! Posting in another language is rather impolite.
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stripes3325
05:57 PM on 10/11/2011
Congrats to Obama for continuing the Bush/Cheney policies of killing these terrorists (with Drone strikes) where they eat, sleep, travel & drink their goat`s milk. The liberal/progressive elitist types must be going "Cucko for Cocoa Puffs" over this one.
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se72748
06:59 PM on 10/11/2011
Liberal /progressives are as patriotic as any of you on the right an I suspect a lot more so in many cases.We are saying God bless Obama.What are you saying?
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stripes3325
12:00 AM on 10/12/2011
Do not be so insecure & thank you for agreeing with me. Yes, God bless Obama for continuing the Bush/Cheney policies. Please launch another Drone strike!
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Moxo
Our enemies are in the GOP.
09:36 PM on 10/11/2011
You mean "congrats to Obama for doing what Bush/Cheneycouldn't be bothered to do", which was to focus on actually getting terrorists.
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stripes3325
12:04 AM on 10/12/2011
Sour grapes. Saddam Hussein & KSM were not terrorists? The truth is always going to hurt. You gotta learn to be more tolerant & give credit where credit is due.
05:43 PM on 10/11/2011
Viene de... que iva caminando, y mi corazo'n empezo' a ser seducido en secreto, y mi mano procedio' a besar mi boca, eso tambien seri'a un error para [la atencio'n de] los jueces, porque habri'a negado al Dios [verdadero] que esta' arriba. Si soli'a regocijarme por la extincio'n de uno que me odiara intensamente, o me senti'a excitado porque el mal lo hubiera hallado....y no permiti' pecar a mi paladar pidiendo un juramento en contra de su alma. Si los hombres de mi tienda no dijeron: Quien puede presentar a alguien que no haya quedado satisfecho de su alimento?alla' afuera ningun residente forastero pasaba la noche; yo manteni'a abiertas mis puertas a la senda. Si como un hombre terrestre encubri' mis transgresiones y escondi' mi error en el bolsillo de mi camisa....... porque sufriera un sobresalto ante una gran muchedumbre, o el desprecio mismo de familias me aterrorizara y me quedara callado, no saliera de la entrada. ....continua
mayanindependentspeak
Until now, I've never lived this long before
08:17 AM on 10/12/2011
Pedro,

Creo que va a confundir la gente que encuentran sus palabras aqui'. Me parece que seria mejor idea comunicarle en ingles.
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BeautifulOnDaOutside
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05:26 PM on 10/11/2011
What makes this summary execution of an American citizen especially heinous, is that it was a political decision to make Obama look tough on "terrorism" to benefit his election campaign.
05:59 PM on 10/11/2011
That is, because REP always complain, that he weak on terrorism.
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se72748
07:01 PM on 10/11/2011
No it wasn't.It was a decsion to potentially protect the lives of you,your family and friends.The president political future had nothing to do with it.President Obama is a Patriot ,first and foremost
05:14 PM on 10/11/2011
Viene de arriba... Y no procedio' uno solo a prepararnos en la matriz? Si yo soli'a retener de [su] deleite a los de condicio'n humilde, y los ojos de la viuda haci'a fallar, y soli'a comer mi bocado a solas, mientras el hue'rfano de padre no comi'a de e'l (porque desde mi juventud el se crio' conmigo como con un padre, y desde el vientre de mi madre la segui' guiando); si soli'a ver a cualquietra pereciendo por no tener prenda de vestir, o que el pobre no teni'a cobertura; si sus lomos no me bendijeron, ni de la lana esquilada de mis carneros jovenes se calentaba; si yo ajitaba mi mano de aca' para alla' contra el hue'rfano de padre, cuando vei'a [que se necesitaba] mi auxilio en la puerta, que se caiga de su hombro mi propia espaldilla, y que mi propio brazo se quiebre desde su hueso superior. Porque el desastre de parte de Dios era un pavor para mi', y contra su dignidad yo no podi'a aguantar. Si he puesto el oro como mi seguridad, o al oro he dicho: Tu' eres mi confianza!, si soli'a regocijarme porque fuera mucha mi propiedad, y porque mi mano hubiera hallado muchas cosas; si soli'a ver la luz cuando fulguraba, o la preciosa luna que ...continua
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koos458
We Live In A Kleptocracy
05:05 PM on 10/11/2011
Like the Nazis who were tried, all he had to do was surrender unconditionally.
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BeautifulOnDaOutside
I ♥ Huffington Post
05:45 PM on 10/11/2011
Obama?
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koos458
We Live In A Kleptocracy
07:54 PM on 10/11/2011
Any politician,
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Rooster Coburn
Less Gov't + More Responsibility = A Better World
04:38 PM on 10/11/2011
Well, he can always file an appeal if he doesn't like Obama's decision.