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Romney Trails 'No Opinion' Nationally Ahead Of New Hampshire GOP Debate (VIDEO)

First Posted: 10/11/11 01:47 PM ET Updated: 12/11/11 05:12 AM ET

MANCHESTER, N.H. -- Here's the main thing to know about the Republican presidential race as it heads into high season tonight with a debate sponsored by Bloomberg and the Washington Post at Dartmouth College in Hanover, N.H.: In New Hampshire, Mitt Romney is standing tall with 44 percent of the vote in the new Marist College Poll.

But that is the best news he's got.

The national "front runner," Romney is five points behind "No Opinion" in the new Washington Post poll. In other words, a man of many opinions confronts a base that has only one: They don't like him.

Romney garnered 24 percent, his "foe" 29 percent. As important as the number is the direction. In his case, none. In most polls he has been stalled at or below 25 percent since the day he announced.

"If I were still advising Mike Huckabee and he had those kind of numbers, I would be advising him to think of getting out," said Hogan Gidley, who is now advising former Sen. Rick Santorum.

This election so far has been a bad dream for Republicans, one from which they are having trouble waking up.

The country is scared, the Tea Party is still boiling, the Occupy Movement is burgeoning, the economy is probably headed for a second recession -- and Republicans so far can't find anyone who seems broadly sensible or salable at a time when President Obama's re-election chances depend on the implausible Electoral College strategy of winning Virginia and North Carolina.

So the GOP race remains not only wide open -- and getting nastier by the day -- but somehow not quite real, even as voting (on a speeded-up timetable) is due to begin in less than three months.

The debate tonight is not so much about one or another candidate -- the media spin is that it's about Rick Perry -- but about the Republican Party itself.

Does the GOP have a message, a plan and a messenger to make the anti-Obama case? Will the GOP have anything positive, inspiring or new to say about the economy and jobs, and a person to say it?

The weird mixture of attack-ad intensity and field-wide torpor gives lower tier candidates some hope that their moment might still come.

Everyone knows the basic shape of the race, such as it is: Romney, colossus though he is not, against a "conservative" TBD.

Top advisors to some of those "conservatives" don't bother touting their candidate per se; rather, they stress that the physics of the race requires one of their number to face off eventually against the shape-shifting former governor of Massachusetts.

So who will that person be? Contrary to the conventional wisdom, Gov. Perry of Texas doesn't have to hit it out of the park at Dartmouth. He does have to stay awake and not make mistakes. "I like Rick, but it turns out he can't hit big league pitching," former Speaker of the House Newt Gingrich told The Huffington Post this morning.

But with $17 million in the bank and a mean-as-a-rattler campaign style, Perry doesn't have to shine in debates. He has the money and the Texas-based plausibility at least to hang round.

Look for Herman Cain to take some heat tonight, now that he has "surged" to second place, polling in the high teens in some surveys. Gingrich says that the pizza man's "9-9-9" tax play will do Cain in once people actually start studying it. "One of those 9s is a 9 percent sales tax," Newt pointed out. "That isn't going to sell."

Santorum is still waiting for his moment, and Michele Bachmann is hoping against hope that she will get another chance.

Gingrich radiates a supreme, knowing calm that belies his past troubles on the trail. "We are headed into a second recession," he said. "Things are going to get so bad that voters are going to have to turn to me," he said cheerfully. "People are going to want someone with real, deep knowledge, and that person is me."

The second tiers -- and the rest of the pack -- can take some comfort from modern nomination-race history. You don't have to look farther back than October 2003 on the Democratic side. Gen. Wesley Clark "led" the pack with 14 percent of voter preference nationwide. "Don't know" was 21 percent. Of course Sen. John Kerry won the nomination.

And lost to President George W. Bush.

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MANCHESTER, N.H. -- Here's the main thing to know about the Republican presidential race as it heads into high season tonight with a debate sponsored by Bloomberg and the Washington Post at Dartmouth ...
MANCHESTER, N.H. -- Here's the main thing to know about the Republican presidential race as it heads into high season tonight with a debate sponsored by Bloomberg and the Washington Post at Dartmouth ...
 
 
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ShinjiIkari
Do you understand how stupid it is to be afraid?
12:08 AM on 10/12/2011
Seriously; have you guys heard Beck lately? He's channelling the 2009 GOP, unable to make up its collective (excuse the expression) "mind" whether OWS is Fascist or Maoist or SomeOtherIst, but it sure is a threat. Mormon Glenn is talking about right-wingers being dragged out of their buildings and killed! Just like the rivers of blood that ran at Woodstock!

I never said this before, Mormon Glenn, but: you go! Keep screaming, keep fear-mongering, keep up the hysterics! The louder and wackier you get, the more likely that GOP voters will spend the next year hiding under the bed, not venturing out to risk the mobs of homicidal hippies--or something... Anyway, the more likely they are to hide under their beds, the less likely your followers are to vote for the GOP! The 99 percent can take OUR country back! After all, the Baggerz don't seem to be doing much constructive with it.
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progressivestance84
The Right is Wrong.
12:01 AM on 10/12/2011
And the winner is.....Barack Obama.
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sdanca4
How is "trickled-down" working for you
11:00 PM on 10/11/2011
Why is Romney so nervous when he speaks. He's not a good debater. He was for TARP, but would not have bailed out the only manufacturing that is our own....GM.....leaving thousands out of work across the board. Now you know for sure.
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blknightowl
Independent, in thought and voting
09:35 PM on 10/11/2011
To answer the headline: "Will Republicans Wake Up From Bad Dream?"

I hope so. However the question should be, will they wake up in time?

There used to be Republicans who wanted the best for the American people. The only difference between them and the Democrats was the ideological path to get to the ultimate goal. Republicans of old favored "phasing" in actions, where as, Democrats favored just biting the bullet and getting the direct action done.

Personally, I used to love the debates surrounding these actions. Intelligent well thought out ideas and plans, and the debates, oratory at its best.

I really miss those Republicans.
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SSF
Republican no longer!
08:20 PM on 10/11/2011
While Perry's poll numbers are falling through the floor, Romney needs to worry about the fact that his own poll numbers didn't go up. GOP primary voters may not be certain about their support for the other Republican candidates, but they are very certain about their disdain for Romney.
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Cubanmom
Another Woman against the GOP-Taliban
08:17 PM on 10/11/2011
Romney TRAILS "No opinion"??? Wow. I suspect he will be the GOP/Teas sacrificial lamb, put on the ticket & will lose to President Obama. The Religious-right will not, ever...... vote for a Mormon.
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OldMacdonald
It isn’t just the lyrics, it’s the beat!
08:12 PM on 10/11/2011
Paul gets laughed at.
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OldMacdonald
It isn’t just the lyrics, it’s the beat!
08:12 PM on 10/11/2011
Newt invokes class warfare. And jailing Democrats.
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OldMacdonald
It isn’t just the lyrics, it’s the beat!
08:09 PM on 10/11/2011
Michele (one L) has an ear piece.
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OldMacdonald
It isn’t just the lyrics, it’s the beat!
08:08 PM on 10/11/2011
Perry is unprepared for the debate. No plan.
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OldMacdonald
It isn’t just the lyrics, it’s the beat!
08:06 PM on 10/11/2011
Wow Romney is a leader! lol
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Cubanmom
Another Woman against the GOP-Taliban
08:17 PM on 10/11/2011
PS. yeah 'leader' but..... trails "no opinion"!
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OldMacdonald
It isn’t just the lyrics, it’s the beat!
08:06 PM on 10/11/2011
Perry just channeled Carter. Energy independence. Wasn't that Carters plan way back when and the pubs blew it out of the water?
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filo
We're all Bozos on this bus.
08:16 PM on 10/11/2011
Good pickup!
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BMcCue7
I'm Buddy McCue (and you're not.)
08:21 PM on 10/11/2011
Yes, it was.
capn moose
Retired reading ranting
07:58 PM on 10/11/2011
The Tea Party has brought such turmoil to the Republican Party that it has totally lost its way. The Tea Party is a relatively small movement, and now that it is known that it primarily is the talking puppet of the Koch Brothers and their super-right, anti-worker and tax-dodging buddies -- all of whom receive scads of U.S. Taxpayers Money through bought-and-paid-for tax breaks, low-cost borrowing, outright grants and sweetheart military supply deals -- now the Tea Party's multiple Obama-hating candidates all want to be president. Maybe Obama will still win.
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larmarch5
07:57 PM on 10/11/2011
And the winner is . . . . . . . Noopi Nion
08:20 PM on 10/11/2011
AND THE WINER IS========== OBAMA IS THE WINER ====== YES WE CAN AND YES WE WILL LOVE YOU MR. PRESIDENT
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sdanca4
How is "trickled-down" working for you
11:02 PM on 10/11/2011
9-9-9 lol
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ShinjiIkari
Do you understand how stupid it is to be afraid?
11:54 PM on 10/11/2011
If you stand on your head, it's the Mark of the Beast! OMG! Herman Cain is the Anti-Christ--if he stands on his head.
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Tom Servo
what a snob.
07:55 PM on 10/11/2011
I can't figure out what network this is going to be on....
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chlllfactor
Liberal and Proud Great Grannie
08:00 PM on 10/11/2011
Bloomberg
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SueMVetforObama2
RomneyIsACoward
08:00 PM on 10/11/2011
Neither can I
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Tom Servo
what a snob.
08:03 PM on 10/11/2011
http://www.bloomberg.com/ found it.