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China Currency Bill: Senators Call Country 'Cheaters,' Dare U.S. Leaders To Get Tough On Currency

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First Posted: 10/12/11 04:52 PM ET Updated: 12/12/11 05:12 AM ET

WASHINGTON -- A bipartisan group of senators hammered China as a nation of "cheaters" Wednesday and laid down a challenge to House Speaker John Boehner and President Obama to get tougher on the Asian powerhouse.

A day after the Senate mustered a rare bipartisan vote to pass a bill targeting Chinese currency manipulation, the measure's sponsors accused U.S. leaders of being cowed by Chinese threats of a trade war.

Sen. Sherrod Brown (D-Ohio) compared the passage of the Senate bill aimed a China to throwing rocks at dogs, and said the United States should be prepared to stand tall when the Asian nation barks back.

"Of course they're going to complain. They're going to squeal when we do something as dramatic, as bold and as important as we did last night," Brown said.

"There's an old Ohio saying: When you throw a rock at a pack of dogs, the one that squeals is the one you hit," Brown said. "Of course they squealed, of course they were unhappy with this. That's going to be their reaction: to try and intimidate American politicians."

Sen. Lindsey Graham (R-S.C.) argued that pushing back at China is the only way the United States has gotten the leaders there to allow the value of its currency to rise. Graham said it matters because if China's money is valued 25 percent to 40 percent less than it should be, Chinese products cost that much less, giving China a huge edge that's cost the U.S. an estimated 2 million jobs over the last decade or so.

And it's now up to House Speaker John Boehner (R-Ohio) and President Obama to lead the push-back.

"It's very important that the House Republican leadership allow a vote on this legislation," Graham said. "I am confident that if it came to the floor of the House, 350 votes are most likely to be had there."

He also argued that President Obama vowed to get tough on the currency issue when he was running for office. "To the president: We need you. Now is the time to lead," Graham said.

Obama said recently that his administration had concerns with the Senate bill. Boehner is one of the officials who have said the measure could spark a trade war.

"The speaker of the House is suggesting he won't take up the the Senate-passed legislation. He called it dangerous," said Sen. Chuck Schumer (D-N.Y.). "The only thing that's dangerous would be to continue turning the other cheek while China mounts its assault on U.S. manufacturing, U.S. jobs and U.S. wealth."

Sen. Jeff Sessions (R-Ala.) added a quote from GOP presidential frontrunner Mitt Romney. "I certainly don't want a trade war with anybody, but we don't have to have a trade surrender either," Sessions repeated.

For Graham, who declared that China "cheats at every turn," the idea that America's top officials would shy away from the fight was almost more disturbing than China doing what it does.

"To John Boehner, a very good friend; to [House Majority Leader] Eric Cantor: I'm not worried about the Chinese response, because at the end of the day they need us as much as we need them -- if not more so," he said. "I'm worried about the idea that American politicians are going to let threats coming from China stop what I think is a rational approach to dealing with this."

Schumer, who has focused on the currency issue since 2004, said the senators would not let it drop.

"The bottom line is we're not going to let this issue die, whether it's Speaker Boehner or President Obama or anybody else," Schumer said.

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WASHINGTON -- A bipartisan group of senators hammered China as a nation of "cheaters" Wednesday and laid down a challenge to House Speaker John Boehner and President Obama to get tougher on the Asian ...
WASHINGTON -- A bipartisan group of senators hammered China as a nation of "cheaters" Wednesday and laid down a challenge to House Speaker John Boehner and President Obama to get tougher on the Asian ...
 
 
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Charles Queen
I am a disabled nam vet
06:06 PM on 10/14/2011
China has ben taking advantage of us and others for a long time and it wouldn't hurt for us to get a bit tough on them,enough for them to get the mesage.There's a lot we nee to do here to though.We have fannie mae and freddie mac still waisting billions upon billlions and all for nothingThere's a few others we need to force to cut back that waste billions as well
02:10 AM on 10/13/2011
Chinese RMB has gained 30% against the US Dollar since 2005. The trade gap also expanded substantially during this time. What makes the US politicians think a float of the RMB now is going to help US-China trade gap, and the US economy, when the data since 2005 shows differently? And if the Chinese does revalue the RMB substantially, wouldn't that send the US treasury yield through the roof, and negatively impact the economy here?
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imdesign
Expression is Everything.
01:24 AM on 10/13/2011
It starts at home. If imported products are made in China, with all the attached complaints of cheaper labour, outsourcing production, keeping their currency below market rate etc that equals a cheaper product on the shelf - we have the ability to choose what we buy and perhaps even what we are prepared to go without.

If enough people boycotted a range of product someone somewhere will get the message. These cheaper imports rely on the consumer responding to the cheapest price - irrespective of where it is made and if we continue to do this we pay the price and suffer the consequence. Can't have your cake and eat it too.
04:21 AM on 10/13/2011
You can't buy products from companies that have already been forced out of business and in some cases in their infancy via predatory trade practices intended to destroy them -- solar cells being a prime example. Walk into Walmart and see how much luck you have finding anything made in America to purchase..
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imdesign
Expression is Everything.
06:00 AM on 10/13/2011
Understand your point Jerry. Somehow we must exercise choice. Not easy when, as you say, predatory business practice has screwed many business's out of business.
07:34 PM on 10/12/2011
Senators call China "cheaters"......just figured that one out, didja?
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Ryan Magdangal
Pirate Satellite
07:29 PM on 10/12/2011
The United States should return to what made us the best place to manufacture and scrap the illusion of "free-trade" (no such thing) and have only a FAIR TRADE policy and an American Manufacturing Policy.

A. Tarriff Principles:
· protect infant American industry for a short term until it could compete;
· raise revenue to pay the expenses of government;
· raise revenue to directly support manufacturing through bounties (subsidies)
B. Subsidies to Industry:

· encourage the spirit of enterprise, innovation, and invention within the nation;
· support the building of infrastructure: roads, trains, bridges and canals to encourage more internal & international trade;
· grow the infant United States into a manufacturing power independent of control by foreign powers through reliance on their goods for domestic and especially defense supplies.
X. The Defense Department shall be changed to the Department of Peace to promote good neighbor policies, democratic-social-republics, infrastructure, trade, commerce, education and combat poverty and disease.
A. This act will shut down the Pentagon
B. We shall abolish all nuclear weapons
C. We shall only use our military to defend ourselves and/or our allies
D. We shall protect the Earth and it’s natural resources
E. We shall use Space for peaceful purposes

(Based on Alexander Hamilton’s Report on Manufactures & Henry Clay’s The American System economic plan.)
04:23 AM on 10/13/2011
I'm with you on imposing tariffs to protect American industry. The rest well... let's agree to disagree. Socialism and Fascism are perilously close things when it comes to subsidizing industries.
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07:19 PM on 10/12/2011
what goes around comes around
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John Derrick
Integrity isn't a gift...it's a mindset!
07:09 PM on 10/12/2011
America needs to ask the serious question; does this Adminstration have the leadership, military acuity, fortitude and economic foundation to stand ground with China? And, consider Vladimir Putin coming back into power in Russia for his newly passed 12-year rein of power. I think we all need to carefully consider these points as we go forward.
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frank day
Obama cares about all of U.S.
07:13 PM on 10/12/2011
It absolutely does and we must support it by voting out all Republicans in the next election.
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Marcin A Mazurek
You live and learn. At any rate, you live. - D.A
07:08 PM on 10/12/2011
I like how one of the more legitimately democratic governments which is bogged down so heavily with partisan politics, private interests, lobbyists, anti-human rights groups (and their right to speak out at, say, funerals) thinks it has the right to call a generally recognized "smart economic decision" as "cheating"
06:58 PM on 10/12/2011
Gentlemen, they're also the holders of the US debt. Tread slowly.
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Marcin A Mazurek
You live and learn. At any rate, you live. - D.A
07:04 PM on 10/12/2011
Not to mention the cost of goods exported from china would also go up without the trade war.
Think about it - more money in chinese economy - standards go up, no more 20 cent factory workers y'know... and it isn't like china needs a hell of a lot of imports.
07:12 PM on 10/12/2011
Then the US taxpayer better hold their breath. They hold 42% of US debt while China and Japan together hold about 14%.......http://exclusiveeconomy.com/2011/01/whose-the-biggest-holder-of-u-s-debt/
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xanas
libertarian, voluntarist, anarchist
06:57 PM on 10/12/2011
China's currency hurts the Chinese people for the benefit of the American consumer via making goods cheaper here but more expensive there.

We put sanctions on countries that our are enemies, because we know that the lack of trade hurts them, yet bizarrely call for putting limited sanctions on ourselves in order to attempt to correct problems? How stupid...
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DismayedRepub
300Mm/s Not just common sense, it’s the law
06:48 PM on 10/12/2011
Equating the Chinese to dogs is real classy guys. Keep this up and you'll have us in a shooting war before you know it.
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Ailton
06:56 PM on 10/12/2011
Don't be so frightened, DiamayedRepub.

Where's your back bone.

Bring them on. I guarantee they have a lot more to loose that we do.

Another thing. If Brazil has the courage to do it, why don't we. What have we become?
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Marcin A Mazurek
You live and learn. At any rate, you live. - D.A
07:05 PM on 10/12/2011
They do.
About 1.3 billion people versus our 300 million.
They could literally SMOTHER US
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DismayedRepub
300Mm/s Not just common sense, it’s the law
01:55 AM on 10/13/2011
If they were to get fed up with us enough they have over a trillion dollars wroth of T-Bills they could dump on the secondary market. Yes they'd take a bath on them if they were to do it but, It would severly curtail the U.S. Governments ability to borrow. How is the government going to meet its obligations then? Aren't three wars enough for you?
06:47 PM on 10/12/2011
China is not taking our jobs. We are exporting it to them. They didn't twist our arms. They just made it easier.

This congress as usual trying very hard to create a foe to hide their inept and do-nothing track record and drum up patriotic support for causes just to distract from real issues. Go after the corporations, if you have the brass and leave China alone before they ask for their money back.

We are responsible for this, not China.
04:31 AM on 10/13/2011
China DOES engage in currency manipulation which makes our goods more expensive for the Chinese and their goods more cheap for Americans.

China engages in cyber-espionage against American corporations.
China subsidizes their products so they can dump them onto our market for less than they cost to make in order to strangle American industries that are still in the cradle -- solar cells would be a prime example.
China ignores our patent and copyright laws and STEALS innovations we invent.
People are always going to buy the cheaper product - it's human nature. If a company doesn't have any R&D costs to recoup and you have slave labor available it's pretty hard for you not to be the cheapest. Besides try getting something that wasn't made in China at your local Walmart...
02:01 PM on 10/13/2011
so basically you saying because china has cheap labor, corporation go there, is not corporation fault but chinese fault for given incentive to greedy corporation??
06:47 PM on 10/12/2011
Yes, the Chinese will complain but lucky for them they can anonymously funnel dollars to candidates of their liking due to the Citizen's United ruling.

We desperately need comprehensive and meaninful campaign finance reform.
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xanas
libertarian, voluntarist, anarchist
06:58 PM on 10/12/2011
So what, are you going to vote for someone just because they have more advertising due to the Chinese?
07:04 PM on 10/12/2011
xanas, no that is not what I said at all. Do you agree with the idea that a foreign country could monetarily affect our elections?
Zadeekah
Like Sisyphus, it's hopeless but keep trying
06:45 PM on 10/12/2011
The pot calls the kettle black, eh?
06:45 PM on 10/12/2011
"There's an old Ohio saying: When you throw a rock at a pack of dogs, the one that squeals is the one you hit," Brown said.

Why the heck would you be throwing rocks at dogs?