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Occupy Wall Street: Complaints Include Rising Student Loan Debt, Insurance Costs

Occupy Wall Street

By CANDICE CHOI and EILEEN AJ CONNELLY   10/14/11 04:13 PM ET   AP

NEW YORK -- The Occupy Wall Street protests are hitting a nerve.

A dearth of jobs, overwhelming student loans and soaring health-care costs are just three major issues protesters have targeted. And regardless of politics, economic data suggests they're not alone in their frustrations.

It may be why the protests have spread to other cities – including Boston, Cincinnati, Seattle and Washington, D.C. – after taking root in downtown New York nearly a month ago.

Take for example the unemployment rate, which has been stuck near 9 percent since the recession officially ended more than two years ago. When counting those who settle for part-time work or have quit looking, that rate rises to about 16.5 percent.

A crippled labor market also shifts bargaining power to employers, giving workers less leverage to seek raises. That could help explain why pay was nearly 2 percent less in August than it was a year earlier when adjusted for inflation.

Student loans are another common rallying point for protesters – as expressed in one sign that read "Want demands? How about student loan bailouts?"

The struggle to keep up with payments is clear; about 320,000 borrowers who entered repayment in 2009 defaulted on their student loans by the end of 2010, according to the Institute for College Access & Success. That's up about 33 percent from the previous year.

Meanwhile, the cost of annual health insurance premiums for family coverage rose 9 percent this year and surpassed $15,000 for the first time, according to the Kaiser Family Foundation and the Health Research and Educational Trust. Some don't have to worry about the uptick; an estimated 16 percent of the population does not have health insurance.

It's that economic backdrop that has driven a diversity of protesters to the streets

While a few hundred have been camping out in Manhattan's Zuccotti Park, many more join in for a few hours or a day to add their voices. Here's a look at some of the protesters who ventured by in the past week, and the financial issues they're dealing with:

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John Smith, 31, of Brooklyn, N.Y., works part time at Trader Joe's because he hasn't been able to find work in his field for over a year, despite having a master's degree. He has about $45,000 in student loan debt. His girlfriend, Meropi Peponides, 27, a graduate student at Columbia University, will have about $50,000 by the time she graduates.

"I don't know in the end what exactly this will achieve, if anything. But if it makes people wake up just a little bit, it's worth it," Peponides said. "The potential is huge. That's why I'm here. I felt the potential somehow."

Smith said he has sent out about 200 resumes in his search. He's looking mainly for work with non-profit organizations. "The jobs that I've been applying for are all entry level jobs in my career field. I don't think I'm shooting for the stars trying to get those jobs." Smith said, noting that five years ago, before grad school, he was able to get work at that level.

He was carrying a sign that said, "I am the 99 percent," a slogan that resonated with him. "It's true. I am one of the many people that are having a lot of trouble finding ways to make it through things right now."

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Tracy Blevins, 41-year-old Manhattan resident, has a doctorate in biomedical science but lost her job as an adjunct professor at Touro College this spring. She's since been getting by on odd jobs; most recently, she acted as a cross-country driver for $2,000.

"I'm earning money off a license I got when I was 16, and still paying off the loans I had to take out to get my degree," she said.

Even after nine years of paying down her loans, Blevins said she owes $10,000. She's current on payments now, but said the loans have crippled her credit score and even prevented her from getting work in the past.

"I have paid and paid and paid and I still owe $10,000. It's the interest that keeps me in debt," she said.

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Steve and Barbara Diamond traveled nearly 100 miles to take part in the protest. They were motivated mainly by what they see as a disappearance of the middle class; and a connection between the economic problems of recent years and the amount of influence money has on politics. He held a sign criticizing the 2010 Supreme Court ruling known as Citizens United, which overturned a previous ban on corporate spending in federal elections.

"Our government is being bought by wealthy people and corporations," said Steve Diamond, a physician. "Unless you get the money out of the elections, you'll end up with an oligarchy in this country."

"My father used to say when he came to here from Europe that this was the `Golden Land,'" he said. But he's not telling that to his own children: "This is what's happened inside two generations."

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Joe Foley, a 48-year-old freelance cinematographer living in Manhattan, finished paying off his $45,000 in student loans just five years ago. His girlfriend has $120,000 in student loans.

Foley said work has been fairly steady in recent years, but he worries that he doesn't have any retirement savings or health insurance. He rents an inexpensive apartment and doesn't carry a big credit card balance, but realizes he's one broken leg away from being in serious debt.

"I was really hoping there was going to be a public option," he said of the federal health care reforms. "It was pretty disappointing that it didn't happen."

For now, he considers himself lucky that he's never had any health issues. His approach has been to "drink lots of water and miso soup and do yoga."

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Ben Bear, 56, a San Francisco resident visiting his daughter in New York, works at a food bank and feels his job is secure.

"Unfortunately I'm doing well because I'm in a growth industry," Bear said. "The demand for food keeps going up. Everyone's got this image of who accesses a food bank as a homeless person. But it's families and the working poor."

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Susan Knauss, 55, from upstate Livingston, N.Y., worked in the telecommunications industry for the past 25 years. But she was laid off a few weeks ago from the New York State Department of Transportation. She plans to get by on unemployment checks for the time being.

"But in two weeks, I won't have health insurance," she said.

She's also worried about her retirement savings. Even after making maximum contributions for most of her career, she worries that she hasn't saved enough and that the volatile market could eat away at the value of her 401(k).

"Where can you put your money where it doesn't go away?"

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Maureen McMahon, 62, of Manhattan, a former school teacher, works part time by choice at a museum. She pointed to problems like the high number of uninsured as among the concerns that brought her out to protest; noting that the disparity in health care reflects that the economic system doesn't treat everyone equally.

"I'm an investor, I have stock," she said with some irony, as she held a sign that said "Tax Wall Street."

"I believe that corporations can be very useful and very compassionate," she said, adding that unfortunately, that kind of corporate responsibility seems to have diminished lately.

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Katy Ryan, 35, of Jersey City, N.J., made a good living for years as a makeup artist, but since the downturn has struggled to make ends meet. She's getting fewer clients and having to cut her rates. These days she even has to take some work as a bartender so she and her 8-year-old daughter can get by. "I didn't have to do that for years."

Her main concern is that the widening gulf between the rich and poor, and the notion that a better life is slipping out of reach for those who aren't wealthy. She noted that her mother was a long time member of the United Auto Workers, and that she saw her benefits and wages chiseled away over the years.

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NEW YORK -- The Occupy Wall Street protests are hitting a nerve. A dearth of jobs, overwhelming student loans and soaring health-care costs are just three major issues protesters have targeted. And r...
NEW YORK -- The Occupy Wall Street protests are hitting a nerve. A dearth of jobs, overwhelming student loans and soaring health-care costs are just three major issues protesters have targeted. And r...
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12:13 PM on 10/19/2011
Hi! I got my Bachelors in IT.I owe over 45,000 in loans.I could of went for my Masters but why? The government will work with you if you can not pay the loan.they have so many programs.I agree I own the money and I have no problem paying it.

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SeriesSeven
Progressivism is a disease.
11:03 AM on 10/17/2011
Sorry, but what in the blue blazes does Wall Street or any corporation have to do with student loan debt? There are three primary participants in the process of generating a student loan:

1. The student (they could get a job and work their way through college like they used to in the old days).
2. The university: these are generally not for profit, but run by ultra-liberals. I suppose OWS doesn't want to protest them because of their shared political affiliations
3. The US government: they back all of the student loans

Wall Street simply isn't a factor. The only entity/individual that these protestors have to blame for student loan debt is themselves. But what do you expect from a bunch of children throwing a tantrum and trying to absolve themselves of all responsibility.
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Eric Shin
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08:41 AM on 10/17/2011
If these kids were smart they would instead of fighting wall street and trying to start a class warfare, demonstrate at Zucotti for the legalization of pot and Times Square for the legalization of prostitution.
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PatrickforO
America needs a Labor Party
01:51 AM on 10/17/2011
I can speak to both of those complaints. Thursday, I went to a meeting the HR division of my organization called to discuss next year's benefits. You guessed it: Higher costs and less service for healthcare.

I have four children and three of them have staggering student loan debt. Their debts range from a low of $20K to a high of $30K. For kids just starting out, that's a boatload of money. The 30 year old still lives with us, and the 25 year old is living with grandma. The 27 year old is married and they are struggling.

This whole situation is sickening, because we're not gonna stop giving transnational corporations huge taxpayer subsidies ($24.8 billion just to oil companies in FY09, billions more to private contractors and direct outlays), but we, the people, have to tighten our belts and worry about cuts to Social Security. I'll tell you, if these clowns we've voted in didn't spend $650 billion on our military (did you know they purchased and used 130 million barrels of oil last year with our tax dollars?), maybe they'd be able to afford to actually act in our behalf. Indeed, I strongly believe the purpose of our government should be to make the lives of our people better, not feed profits to big corporations.
04:08 PM on 10/17/2011
Health care costs will just continue to rise. One way most companies do not look into to cut these costs for themselves and their employees is wellness programs. Companies like Orriant have proven to cut the cost of benefits by as much as 17%. This helps the employer, and the employee. Most HR execs haven't looked into this area though...
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12:32 AM on 10/17/2011
As long as they don't really 'occupy' Wall Street (entering inside the stock-market and stoping the daily e-trade in prices with its bubbles that tax every commodity), as long as they dont do 'La Bastille' with the modern aristocracy, the stockrats with rights to print money... this will be meaningless. Kids thinking the darwinian Universe care. Kids are the food staple of the darwinian universe. man up and r=evolve
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11:12 PM on 10/16/2011
To all that keep saying: "I just don't get it, I just don't get it about OWS". These are the real reasons for OWS: Easy to understand, but more importantly it is for a single purpose: the United States would fare much better if big corporate money was removed from Washington.

1. Americans are fed up with greed in politics.
2. Although unemployment and underemployment are battles that can be fought with hard work, many people are tired of the odds being tilted in favor of the rich.
3. Wall Street’s power within the Federal government allows them to make rules that bolster their own livelihood, at the expense of the middle class.
4. If this system continues to enable the highest 1 percent of earners, there will soon be little of the other 99 percent left to save.
12:26 AM on 10/17/2011
AMEN! We need to be free of this financial slavery! Enough is enough.
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PatrickforO
America needs a Labor Party
01:56 AM on 10/17/2011
Right on in your post. Fanned and faved. Love your microbio. Here's an appropos quote from Robert McChesney, who wrote these words in 1998. They could have been penned last night.

This is neoliberal democracy in a nutshell: trivial debate over minor issues by parties that basically pursue the same pro-business policies regardless of formal differences and campaign debate.
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TheJibreelaMonsters
the library is one of the best places to find me
09:50 PM on 10/16/2011
I know what would solve this problem: State School
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PatrickforO
America needs a Labor Party
02:00 AM on 10/17/2011
Way back when, in '67...

Oh, that's another song. But back in the 60, CA really did have free undergrad school. Worked fine. Then all that money started going to other programs the federal government was foisting off on states and they had to begin charging. College in state schools ought to be free. It ought to be hard - if you don't have the brains you should wash out, but it should be free. Why was it more important, in 2009, for our government to give $1.7 billion to Bahrain Oil Company and spend $120 billion on the two wars when these monies could have done so much for our own people.
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Bradley Greig Smith
Endless war is endless debt.
09:32 PM on 10/16/2011
Going to college is a scam for most people. You actually get sold a bill of goods. Student Loans simply allow schools to keep prices sky high. It is still being structured around a liberal arts style system. So most of your classes have nothing to do with your major at all. Even at the masters level you are still forced to take a ton of classes that have nothing to do with your major. On top of this many of the degrees themself are useless.

Many young people ending up taking years to find themselves and what they want to do in life, yet instead of fiding themself first they waste years of their lives going into debt for a peice of paper that often does them no good.

Unless you really know what you want to do with your life and that the job you will get pays well you are better off finding a job.
09:29 PM on 10/16/2011
It's very interesting to hear about these people, but I'm not sure what Wall Street has to do with their problems. Where were these people when Glass-Steagall was repealed? Who complained when the Federal Reserve kept interest rates low through two consecutive asset bubbles? Why didn't they protest in front of the US Treasury when it printed Trillions of dollars--destroying our savings, eroding our purchasing power, and greatly increasing the price of food and gas (two items excluded from our bogus inflation calculations.) How about the govt's role in distorting the housing market via Fannie and Freddie? I guess Wall Street is as good a place as any to gather, but this disaster has a lot of moving parts. Wall Street has become a scapegoat for people's problems, but the truth is more complicated.
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11:32 PM on 10/16/2011
And, surely far more complicated than to continually question instead, and since he took office no less, whether Obama's birth certificate is legit or not. One would think those who preferred to hammer on that point would have also wanted to address the issues you mentioned. It's "very interesting how those people", i.e. b@ggers hadn't realized that it wasn't a "good place as any to just gather"and offer little else than wearing three-pointed hats.
11:54 AM on 10/17/2011
I agree that most Tea Party advocates are just as ignorant as most of the Occupy Wall Street people. Very few people really understand what has happened. The biggest irony is that the Tea Party and the Occupy Wall Street crowd are actually adjacent on the political spectrum, and neither of them knows it or would be willing to admit it. The Libertarians and the Anarchists are actually very similar. If you strip away the nutjobs on both sides, you have two groups of intelligent people making almost the same argument. They would never sit down in a room together, but they're really saying almost the same thing. It cracks me up that the Democrats and Republicans are both basically governing the country the same way, and the far right and the far left are actually closer to each other than they are to their party's leadership. The political spectrum has been warped into a circle. One of these days the Libertarians and Anarchists will realize they have a lot in common. It would be interesting to have a multi-party system and see how the voting blocks form.
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PatrickforO
America needs a Labor Party
02:11 AM on 10/17/2011
The point is that a very few uber-rich investors and less than 1,000 transnational corporate leaders literally call the shots. They own the GOP lock, stock and barrel, and the Dems are so beholden to them that they have much less flexibility on our behalf now than they did before this recession. We pretty much live in a corporatist state now, and our government is an arm of the big transnationals. Don't kid yourself thinking some Senator or Representative just decided Glass-Steagall was bad and repealed it. They were told to, and they complied. You should read, really read, Milton Friedman. It will blow your mind. Talk about a dangerous ideology...privatize everything, cut taxes except from consumers and gut social programs. Seriously, that's what they want. I do agree the truth is complicated, but if you turn over the rocks and look into the stinking underbelly of our society, you're gonna see old, wrinkled, liver-spotted, white corporate hands, grasping for every last cent. After WWII, our senior State guys decided this was the way to go - keep the world's capitalist system in good shape with massive government subsidies through DoD, but around 1980, they lost control...
07:11 AM on 10/17/2011
I agree about corporate America's influence on government, but only a handful of those corporations are based in New York and most of them have little to do with "Wall Street". None of the "uber-rich investors" are on Wall Street. Besides, these companies are just doing what they are supposed to do--make money for the shareholders. The way I see it, the fault lies not with the companies, but with the politicians and appointed officials. Re: Gramm-Leach-Bliley, I think the politicians should have shown some backbone. The other factors in these sad stories are things like free trade and globalization. Where do you go to protest globalization? G-8 Meetings? My guess is, most of these people don't understand globalization or free trade. They don't understand Fannie, Freddie, the Federal Reserve, the US Treasury. They don't even really understand interest rates, currencies, and bond prices. However, they do understand Wall Street is generally successful, so that's where they go to try to "get their share" of the American pie.
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09:23 PM on 10/16/2011
Part of the reason for the debt is that for years the cost of college tuition has exceeded the rate of inflation.

35 years ago a state resident paid $8.30 per credit to attend community college in the state of Washington. Today it's $96 per credit. In public institutions today state support amounts to only 25 to 30 percent support generally.
07:44 PM on 10/16/2011
I like the student loan complaint. The reason for increased student costs is not because of big bad wall street but rather the government has been the "sub prime" lender to anyone who can fog a mirror with a desire to go to college. The repayment terms are so lenient that they have allowed universities to increase rates at 2x the rate of inflation for 30 years. No wonder the typical tuition is 50K/year for a private university and that the current rate of increase will be $100k/year within a decade.

On health insurance costs, welcome to the post-affordable care environment when this terrible piece of legislation will further drive up insurance costs because the law contemplates increasing coverage while increasing taxes on the wealthy by 4.7% while not managing costs.
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06:02 PM on 10/16/2011
"Meanwhile, the cost of annual health insurance premiums for family coverage rose 9 percent this year and surpassed $15,000 for the first time, according to the Kaiser Family Foundation and the Health Research and Educational Trust. "

You can thank Obamacare for that one! Since it was passed, premiums have gone up almost 20%
07:08 PM on 10/16/2011
it hasn't been implemented yet, smarty. nice try tho
SeriesSeven
Progressivism is a disease.
11:13 AM on 10/17/2011
Certain components went into effect almost immediately (namely the taxes). Others have already been tried and abandoned because they were ridiculously horrible ideas to begin with (long term care). But you weren't paying any attention, were you?
oilfield
large employer per obamacare
04:44 PM on 10/16/2011
is it contradictory to complain about high student loan debt and support teachers unions?
07:23 AM on 10/17/2011
Its not the teachers getting the money but the administrators.
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mjtaylor22
10:30 AM on 10/17/2011
um no, unions represent workers.....the administerators get the bulk of the education funds......
01:06 PM on 10/16/2011
The only change I've got is whats in my pocket after I pay my underwater mortgage, health insurance, and gas to get to my job that i haven't gotten a raise in 3 years.



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Linda from Deerfield
Paying attention
12:38 PM on 10/16/2011
How many parents are guilty of having erroneously taught their grown children that a house is the best investment they can make, and income will rise as they get older so debt is no problem, maybe while basking in the comfort of a pension that their kids will never, ever match? If those parents would honestly open their eyes, they would Occupy Wall Street, too.
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Annie LaChapelle
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01:51 PM on 10/16/2011
And they told them as children that the best thing they can do is to study hard and get a college degree. I don't know what to tell my kid anymore......If you can't get a scholarship you're screwed?
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njgal4obama
All others will be towed.
02:19 PM on 10/16/2011
Income is supposed to rise as they get older.

Those parents didn't give bad advice. Some really rotten people came along and destroyed the system that was supposed to work for everybody!
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marymeade2
I prefer liberty over tyranny
04:52 PM on 10/16/2011
Yeah, the democrats came along and have been doing it for over 50 years now. Shame isn't it.