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Herman Cain: 'I'm Not Familiar With The Neoconservative Movement'


First Posted: 10/16/11 12:46 PM ET Updated: 12/16/11 05:12 AM ET

WASHINGTON -- GOP presidential candidate Herman Cain raised more questions about his knowledge of foreign policy on Sunday, saying he doesn't know anything about the "neoconservative movement," which dominated the eight years of the Bush administration.

On "Meet the Press" Sunday morning, host David Gregory asked Cain who has shaped his views on foreign policy.

"I've looked at the writings of people like Amb. John Bolton," replied Cain. "I've looked at the writings of Dr. Henry Kissinger -- KT McFarland, someone I respect."

Bolton was one of the most hawkish figures of the Bush administration, serving as the U.S. ambassador to the United Nations. He repeatedly pushed for striking Iran, and in 1994, he famously said, "If the U.N. secretary building in New York lost 10 stories, it wouldn’t make a bit of difference."

Kisssinger served as Secretary of State and National Security Adviser under Presidents Richard Nixon and Gerald Ford. McFarland is a national security analyst with Fox News who has served in the Nixon, Ford and Reagan administrations.

When Gregory then asked Cain whether he was a "neoconservative," the presidential hopeful admitted he had no idea what Gregory was talking about.

"I'm not sure what you mean by neoconservative," said Cain. "I am a conservative, yes. Neoconservative -- labels sometimes will put you in a box. I'm very conservative."

"But you're familiar with the neoconservative movement?" asked Gregory.

"I'm not familiar with the neoconservative movement," admitted Cain. "I'm familiar with the conservative movement. Let me define what I mean by the conservative movement -- less government, less taxes, more individual responsibility."

Neocons gained popularity during the term of President George W. Bush. In his 2004 inaugural address, Bush placed himself squarely within the neocon philosophy, declaring that a key foreign policy purpose of his second term would be to promote democracy "in every nation and culture, with the ultimate goal of ending tyranny in our world."

The Iraq war was heavily pushed by his neocon advisers, including Richard Perle, Doug Feith and Paul Wolfowitz.

On Sunday, Cain also said he believes the invasion of Iraq was a good idea.

"I don't think the war in Iraq was a mistake, because there were a lot of other reasons we needed to go to Iraq, and there have been a lot of benefits that have come out of Iraq," he said, although he didn't elaborate on the nature of the benefits.

"Now that being said, I don't agree with the president's approach to draw down 40,000 troops and basically leave that country open to attacks by Iran. Iran has already said that they want to wait until America leaves."

The decision to draw down troops in Iraq was put in place prior to Obama's inauguration by the Bush administration, which signed a Status of Forces Agreement with Iraq saying that all U.S. troops would be out of the country by the end of 2011.

Foreign policy has not been Cain's strong suit, and it seemed that in the beginning of his campaign, he was doing all he could to avoid talking about it. Initially when asked about his plan for Afghanistan, Cain repeatedly said that he would reveal it only if he became president.

"The right approach is: The day I’m elected president, I will start on that plan such that the day I was sworn in, I will be able to implement the plan," Cain said in a vague answer on "Fox News Sunday" in May.

When asked on Sunday how he would define victory in Afghanistan, Cain simply said he would take the advice of the commanders.

"In Afghanistan, victory is: Can we leave Afghanistan in a situation where they can defend themselves? I don't know if that's possible right now," he replied. "Because here again, what do the commanders on the ground say? What does the intelligence community say? A lot of analysis needs to go into determining whether or not there is a definition of victory in Afghanistan."

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WASHINGTON -- GOP presidential candidate Herman Cain raised more questions about his knowledge of foreign policy on Sunday, saying he doesn't know anything about the "neoconservative movement," which ...
WASHINGTON -- GOP presidential candidate Herman Cain raised more questions about his knowledge of foreign policy on Sunday, saying he doesn't know anything about the "neoconservative movement," which ...
WASHINGTON -- GOP presidential candidate Herman Cain raised more questions about his knowledge of foreign policy on Sunday, saying he doesn't know anything about the "neoconservative movement," which ...
WASHINGTON -- GOP presidential candidate Herman Cain raised more questions about his knowledge of foreign policy on Sunday, saying he doesn't know anything about the "neoconservative movement," which ...
 
 
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goodog 01:50 PM on 10/16/2011
"'I've looked at the writings of people like Amb. John Bolton,' replied Cain. 'I've looked at the writings of Dr. Henry Kissinger -- KT McFarland, someone I respect...' When Gregory then asked Cain whether he was a 'neoconservative,' the presidential hopeful admitted he had no idea what Gregory was talking about."
So Cain names and embraces 3 well-known top neocons off the top  Read More...
07:51 PM on 11/04/2011
He also said he reads Michael Ledeen's column. Michael Ledeen belongs in a mental hospital. Seriously: he's a frigging psychopath.
12:55 AM on 11/03/2011
The Neocons over at the Council on Foreign Relations have been dictating our Foreign policy for years. That's where Hillary go's to get it. Google it. It's on you tube. That's why foreign policy has not changed since the election. The only difference now is that the anti war movement is comprised mostly of Ron Paul supporters as the Democrats seem to have abandoned it. Well, other than Dennis Kucinich of course. At least we have two Congressmen that see no merit in killing innocent Muslims. Can I find the "Moral High Ground" on Google maps? We seem to have lost our way.
12:42 AM on 11/03/2011
If we left Afghanistan, there would not be anyone they needed to protect themselves from! He does not even know that China has nukes! This guy makes me miss Jimmy Carter. Ok..that might be an exaggeration...might be.
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Michael D Ballantine
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02:32 AM on 10/20/2011
Let's take Herman Cain at his word. He is out of touch with reality. How can he expect people to support him if he has had his head buried in the sand for the past 10 years. We need a President that represents the people that understands what it's like to go hungry, or pay student loans. Whatever Herman Cain's childhood was like it appears he forgot. No more millionaire Presidents, we want people Presidents.
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trweste144
never one for moderation...
01:30 AM on 10/18/2011
I've always wanted to ask of Sarah Palin, "Could you explain to me your thoughts on the Wolfowitz doctrine?" Ask Herman Cain the same thing. I'd also like to ask him what he considers the similarities and the differences between Pakistan's PPP and their army.

Now asking for someone to lay out the facts then give an opinion, is a gotcha question. I'm no teacher, but such responses remind me of the renditions high schoolers recite to their English teachers; kids resent the teachers for asking when they're the ones who didn't read the book.

The first of my questions considers the US's history of foreign policy, current events, and the other asks about foreign affairs. And yes, to give your views on the subject, you have to know the topic. What happens when you don't? Gotcha, I guess.

These things you should have something to say about even if what you have to say differs from my opinions on the subject. We should at least try to in good faith have a fair airing of facts.

I know, Republicans. He proves you can be scornful and hateful in the way you neglect your fellow countrymen without being racist. But he ought know something about foreign affairs to serve as Commander in Chief.
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12:44 AM on 10/23/2011
You can ask Cain anything you like. You will get the same bamboozle and jibe that all those that have questioned him have received.

1. He will get hostile and use YOUR name repeatedly in an attack answer.
2. He will rephrase your question to set up a GOP or Cain talking point based answer.
3. He will outright dodge your question by making you the subject of his interview.

Pull him up on YouTube...see what you see.
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trweste144
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10:02 PM on 10/23/2011
No, thanks. I've seen enough of him to more or less agree with your description of his tactics albeit I would never use racially loaded words like 'bamboozle' and 'jive' to describe how he speaks. I don't know your race so you may feel more comfortable using words like that. Plus, the question, while it has answer any Presidential candidate should know, I use here in an almost rhetorical way. I already know from the answer he gave here that he probably could not answer it. You never know though. People can surprise you.
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WarrenPease
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12:07 AM on 10/18/2011
I'll repost my prediction: The wheels will come off the pizza wagon before the primary in New Hampshire.
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01:00 AM on 10/23/2011
A lot faster than that. My guess he is in Trump territory, or at least Perry-Land in less that 45 days.

Cain may be a gifted Biz Dude..I do not know but he is a horrible liar and crappy lies are a much tougher sell than crappy pizza.
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SirReal1
09:24 PM on 10/17/2011
Qualification for running for President:

I'm not familiar with the ideological movement that shaped the Nations Foreign Policy for the past Decade.

Wow!
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12:40 AM on 10/23/2011
I am not sure I agree with you. Let me at the start say I think Cain the most mendacious and unqualified of all the GOP'er candidates. Having said that I don't see a problem with him saying he is not familiar with a movement that all formula GOP"ers are familiar with. Perhaps he casts his own defective mold.

But, as the old saying goes..."Only my Mama loves me and she could be jiving too"...perhaps Cain is just BS'en. Maybe he knows well of the NeoConJob movement and wants to avoid discussion of it. There were 3 names mentioned in the article above that were associates of that movement. Have you heard a peep about any of them in the last several years? I am sure Cain wants to let dead dogs lie.
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SirReal1
12:55 PM on 10/23/2011
So, just to be clear, you are "not sure" that you agree that it is significant that a person who presently is polling at the top of the Republican Primary heap, claims to know so little about AMERICAN FOREIGN POLICY as to be "UNFAMILIAR" with the ideological basis that drove it for the eight years of the Bush Administration?

It really doesn't matter what his motivation for making such a claim, is. Either one would be "alarming" to anyone with any concern that our Foreign Policy needs to be under the stewardship of a rational leader who is familiar with the implications of the various potential ideological approaches that could be adopted.

Has our collective memory become so fallible that we no longer remember that Bush II proved to be "INCURIOUS" about Foreign Policy (e.g. the "Foreign Leaders" interview), and left it to his V.P. and advisers, who promptly led us into Afghanistan and Iraq at a cost of THOUSANDS of our "best and brightest" and $TRILLIONS?

Are you seriously suggesting that because "we haven't heard a peep" from any of the named individuals that they are no longer "active in the political realm"?
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01:25 AM on 10/23/2011
Neoconservativeism did not play that great of a role in shaping USA foreign policy. If it did we would have booted the UN, bombed Iran and assassinated Chavez. We would have emptied our coffers to Israel, pushed the button on North Korea and declared all of Europe a terrorist collaboration.

The NeoCon's appealed more to our morbid curiosity, much like Limbaugh or a carnival Freak show, but they really had little influence.
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SirReal1
01:00 PM on 10/23/2011
You're lack of knowledge of the influence of the NEOCON's during the Bush years is excusable because you are not running for President, but, being "unaware" of it does not mean that it "is not true".

Perhaps you should do a bit more research before making your claim. Starting with the FIRST SENTENCE of the article you are commenting on.

"GOP presidential candidate Herman Cain raised more questions about his knowledge of foreign policy on Sunday, saying he doesn't know anything about the "neoconservative movement," which dominated the eight years of the Bush administration."
12:23 AM on 10/26/2011
http://www.historycommons.org/project.jsp?project=neoconservatives I agree with SirReal1 on this heres a great start.
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margoharris
I used to be Snow White but I drifted.
08:48 PM on 10/17/2011
KochCain! Just say NO!

www.occupytogether.com
08:12 PM on 10/17/2011
Constitution? No, when I am elected President I have my own constitution - I will reveal that too,,,when I am President. I will also explain all the benifits of the IARQ war! After that I will be doing cabaret with Bugs Bunny, Foghorn Leghorn and the tooth fairy.
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margoharris
I used to be Snow White but I drifted.
08:50 PM on 10/17/2011
Not only is he unlikable he is dangerously arrogant.
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01:03 AM on 10/23/2011
Fanned. Thank you so much for making this blatant but what seems to be horribly missed point.
07:52 PM on 10/17/2011
The guy is stupid. That's why he always so much, to cover up.
07:48 PM on 10/17/2011
Hang on a minute. Isn't Bolton a neoconservative? So Cain name checks him as an influence and doesn't even realize it? Amazing.

I think this moment is a lot like Sarah Palin's interview with Charlie Gibson when she didn't know about the Bush doctrine.

I also loved it when he claimed that he was on the campaign trail. Isn't he still on his book tour? Well, ya better get off that tour and do some learning, Herman, or the Repubs (not to mention the voters) will send you off to Ubezeki-beki-stan.
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WarrenPease
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12:10 AM on 10/18/2011
Or Dumfukistan.
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supergenius02
07:41 PM on 10/17/2011
Like Obama had any foreign policy knowledge or any domestic knowledge.  At least Cain did not state there were 57 states like Obama.  The latest Rassmussen Poll has Cain leading Obama 43% to 41% in the polls. America wants someone who can get America's domestic economy back on track.

http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/elections/election_2012/election_2012_presidential_election/2012_presidential_matchups
07:57 PM on 10/17/2011
Loser. Why not bring up the American Revolution before the Pilgrims landed? In the 16th century. By Perry
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JFetch
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09:35 PM on 10/17/2011
Do you really think Obama thought there was 57 states? It couldn't possibly be because he was tired and had a thousand other things on this mind could it?
07:38 PM on 10/17/2011
Cain's "Meet The Press" performance was the worst in memory. His tax plan is a joke and once the average person finds out that it is shifting even more wealth from themselves to the rich that will be toast. His foreign policy knowledge is non-existent. Clarence Thomas as his most admired Supreme Court justice? Really??? Cain is obviously an intellectual titan next to Sarah Palin but displays similarly woeful ignorance of almost everything he would need to know to be president. What will be an interesting sociological study is seeing who the right dislikes more, a Mormon who destroyed jobs or a black man who at least created some. What an agonizing choice for them.
07:51 PM on 10/17/2011
Oh, I forgot about his choice of Clarence "bought by the Tea Party" Thomas as his fave justice. He's just kissin' some serious Koch Brothers butt with that one.
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supergenius02
08:06 PM on 10/17/2011
If Cain is such a joke, why he is now leading Obama in the polls 43% to 41%?
08:13 PM on 10/17/2011
A month from now Cain will be history.
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JFetch
You guys take these Micro-bios too seriously.
09:36 PM on 10/17/2011
Cain is done. Just like Bachman. Just like Perry. Just like the next guy that they try to say is the front runner.
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4real
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07:31 PM on 10/17/2011
I know MichaelSteele is happy he is no longer the b u ff00n for the teapublican party.
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01:27 AM on 10/23/2011
I don't think I can see any reason to link Steele to Cain other then they are both Black. THink about that.
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jfbuf
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06:38 PM on 10/17/2011
Cain admits limited knowledge
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shyhon
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08:28 PM on 10/17/2011
At least he admits the limits of his knowledge. President Obama bluffed his way through it. (with alot of help from his friends).
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margoharris
I used to be Snow White but I drifted.
08:53 PM on 10/17/2011
And you donk;t know whether to scratch your watch or wind your but t.
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margoharris
I used to be Snow White but I drifted.
08:54 PM on 10/17/2011
edit....dont