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999 Plan: Herman Cain's Proposal Would Raise Taxes On 84 Percent, Study Shows

STEPHEN OHLEMACHER   10/18/11 09:23 PM ET  AP

WASHINGTON — Herman Cain's 9-9-9 tax plan would raise taxes on 84 percent of U.S. households, according to an independent analysis released Tuesday, contradicting claims by the Republican presidential candidate that most Americans would see a tax cut.

The Tax Policy Center, a Washington think tank, says low- and middle-income families would be hit hardest, with households making between $10,000 and $20,000 seeing their taxes increase by nearly 950 percent.

"You're talking a $2,700 tax increase for people with incomes between $10,000 and $20,000," said Roberton Williams, a senior fellow at the Tax Policy Center. "That's huge."

Households with the highest incomes, however, would get big tax cuts. Those making more than $1 million a year would see their taxes cut nearly in half, on average, according to the analysis.

Among those in the middle, households making between $40,000 and $50,000 would see their taxes increase by an average of $4,400, the report said. Those making between $50,000 and $75,000 would see their annual tax bill go up by an average of $4,326.

"It's very, very regressive compared to the current system, and that's largely because we're exempting capital gains, and we're taxing your spending with the sales tax," Williams said. "People at the top end don't spend all their money and they get a lot of capital gains, so they are doing pretty well here."

Cain disputed the analysis Tuesday evening during GOP presidential debate in Las Vegas, where the other Republican candidates heaped on criticism. Cain has acknowledged that taxes would increase for some but says taxes would decrease for most.

"It does not raise taxes on those that are making the least," Cain said. "All of those are simply not true."

"The reason that our plan is being attacked so much is because lobbyists, accountants, politicians, they don't want to throw out the current tax code and put in something that's simple and fair," Cain said. "They want to continue to be able to manipulate the American people with a 10 million-word mess."

Cain's plan would scrap current taxes on income, payroll, capital gains and corporate profits. He would replace them with a 9 percent tax on income, a 9 percent business tax and a 9 percent national sales tax.

Cain's campaign has gained momentum largely in response to his tax plan, which is popular in part because of its simplicity. Several polls have the former CEO of Godfather's Pizza at or near the top of the Republican field, vying with former Massachusetts Gov. Mitt Romney.

President Barack Obama told ABC News that Cain's tax plan would impose a "huge burden" on middle-class and working families. The president said Cain's plan would make sure the wealthiest pay less – and replace the revenue with a sales tax hitting the less well-off.

Romney criticized the plan in a conference call with reporters Tuesday.

"I believe that you're going to find with the 9-9-9 plan Herman Cain has put out that the burden shifts more to the middle class, and I think that's the wrong direction to go," Romney said. "A decision to completely jettison our current tax system for a new system always has some merit, but then you need to get into it, to figure out who's this going to help and who's this going to hurt."

Cain's rise in the polls has brought increased scrutiny, and his tax plan has taken hits from across the political spectrum. Some don't like shifting the tax burden from the wealthy to the poor and middle class; others don't like the new national sales tax.

"Anytime you give the Congress a brand-new tax, it doesn't go away," said Rep. Michele Bachmann, R-Minn. "If we give Congress a 9 percent sales tax, how long will it take a liberal president and a liberal Congress to run that up to maybe 90 percent?"

William McBride, an economist at the conservative Tax Foundation, said Cain's plan to move away from taxing savings and investment "would be a very good thing for growth in the long run."

But, McBride said, the national sales tax would be a nightmare to administer because so many state and local governments already have sales taxes, and the bases are different.

In most states, food and medicine are excluded from sales tax. Cain has said his sales tax would be applied to all new goods – only used goods would be exempt.

"It's not as simple as having all these jurisdictions simply tack on 9 percent and send it to the federal government," McBride said in an interview.

Cain has said his plan would initially raise as much money as the current tax system but do it more efficiently, leading to economic growth, which would produce higher tax revenues. The Tax Policy Center analysis agreed that the plan would initially raise about the same amount of money as current tax policy, about $2.55 trillion in 2013.

The Tax Policy Center compared taxes on U.S. households under current tax policy, with those imposed under the Cain plan. In using current tax policy, the analysis assumes that tax cuts enacted under former President George W. Bush – and extended through 2012 by Obama – would be extended.

The center did a separate analysis that assumed all the Bush-era tax cuts would expire at the end of 2012. Under that scenario, Cain's plan would still impose higher taxes on 77 percent of U.S. households, the report said.

The Tax Policy Center is a research group formed by two Washington think tanks: the Urban Institute and the Brookings Institution. Researchers at the center regularly testify before Congress on tax policy. The center's analyses during the 2008 presidential campaign were widely circulated.

The center said researchers tried to consult with Cain's advisers to make sure they were interpreting the plan correctly, but they had not heard back.

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Associated Press writer Steve Peoples contributed to this report.

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WASHINGTON — Herman Cain's 9-9-9 tax plan would raise taxes on 84 percent of U.S. households, according to an independent analysis released Tuesday, contradicting claims by the Republican presid...
WASHINGTON — Herman Cain's 9-9-9 tax plan would raise taxes on 84 percent of U.S. households, according to an independent analysis released Tuesday, contradicting claims by the Republican presid...
WASHINGTON — Herman Cain's 9-9-9 tax plan would raise taxes on 84 percent of U.S. households, according to an independent analysis released Tuesday, contradicting claims by the Republican presid...
WASHINGTON — Herman Cain's 9-9-9 tax plan would raise taxes on 84 percent of U.S. households, according to an independent analysis released Tuesday, contradicting claims by the Republican presid...
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12:38 PM on 11/18/2011
This tax plan is crazy yes I understand the fact of making taxes fair for everyone, but what about the middle class people. I mean people that make $20,000 and less a year will not pay taxes on their income, but what about someone that makes $20,500 a year? I mean they are probably already struggling to make ends meet then your gonna tax them more and make them not be able to pay there bills much less even buy food for themselves what about the ones that have a family or a baby on the way. So what I see is the rich get richer the poor get a break and the middle class suffer from all of this and become poorer than the poor. Great tax plan don't you think?
04:31 PM on 12/12/2011
The 9-9-9 plan would mean a level field for everyone! Every income earner would pay the same rate. As it is the lower end pay nothing and even get free $, the middle class pays 1/3 of their income in all types of tax and the rich hire CPA's and adviser's to help them spend and game the tax code out of paying what they should. I speak from experience! I made almost $500,000 one year and only paid $12,000 in income tax because I was able to utilize the tax code! Under a 9-9-9 type plan, I would have had to pay $45,000 in tax!! NOW, ALL YOU BRAINIACS, tell me what is better for America?????
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11:04 PM on 11/02/2011
Not sure what is worse, the fact that Herman Cain is stupid enough to come up with this idiotic plan or his mouth foaming supporters who can't figure out why they keep getting screwed over.

Might be a good idea for President Obama to implement a national program for basic financial literacy.
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kiksadi50
01:49 PM on 10/31/2011
why would anyone who doesn't fall into the 1%ers, support this tax plan. No capitol gains tax?, $2700 tx. on people making $10,000 a yr. (the GOP really really does hate poor people), an increase in sales taxes which really hurts the poor. But for god's sake don't rise taxes on capitol gains the holiest of holy's.
02:42 AM on 10/25/2011
I would like to see the data that supports the article.
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kiksadi50
01:49 PM on 10/31/2011
it's not hard to research.
09:53 PM on 10/22/2011
The 9-9-9 plan DOES NOT work OR sit well with EVERYONE. What justice will it do for the economy?
02:41 AM on 10/25/2011
What does justice have to do with a capitalistic economy? The plan would work and would ensure that ALL of us have some skin in the game. What is not justice is a tax system that only affects middle and upper income earners while leaving a pretty large chunk of folks who simply don't care what the tax policy is as long as they are not paying any.
04:40 PM on 10/22/2011
The point most people are missing is that Herman Cain's 999 plan will benefit the lower income people more. Let me explain. We now have a much higher income tax on the wealthy and most corporations that produce the products in the market pay a higher income tax than 9%. When a final product goes to market many corporations are involved in production. The higher tax is passed on in higher prices in the product in all stages of production. In today's market a product that sell for $100 has an average of 22% of what I call a hidden tax passed on to the final consumer. Under Cain's plan, because of the competitive market, thanks to free enterprise that same product that cost $100 today will go down to $78 because of the lower income tax rate. Now add a 9% tax and we have a final price of $85.02. A benefit of almost $15 for the consumer. Yes the poor paid a 9% tax they didn't pay before, buy actually they did pay a higher hidden tax when they made their purchase under the current tax code. Include the lower S.S. tax and the lower cost of computing taxes it is clear to see that Herman Cain's 999 plan is a win win for all.
11:14 AM on 10/25/2011
Are you serious? Do you really think that corporations are going to LOWER their price of goods because they don't pay as much tax?!? Please! They will not lower prices because that's more money in their pocket. This will not have a trickly down affect to help the poor. Get real!
09:25 AM on 11/11/2011
You obviously don't know how tight the profit margin is in the Retail industry, it will only take one company lowering it's prices to bring in more customers for the rest to follow suit. So after a short price war prices will generally be lower and the consumer will pay less for the product. Also look at it from the point of jobs, foreign products will have the sales tax on them without the "hidden tax" to take away and our exports will no longer have the "hidden tax" on them making US products more competitive locally and in the world market
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11:38 AM on 10/21/2011
So Herman wants to raise taxes on 84% of taxpayer, that leaves 16% of millionaires and billionaires that get tax cuts, sounds fair to the Teabaggin Republican Congress and the 16% who benefit, what about those that vote for President and Congress?
06:46 PM on 10/20/2011
I think Cain's plan is flawed - particularly the 9% sales tax but I am also amazed that none of the left wing have a problem putting an even larger tax burden on the wealthy. Sure they can afford to pay more but that doesn't mean that the bottom 47% are entitled to their earnings. Being poor is a bummer - I grew up in poverty and I hated it!!!!!! However there is nothing keeping most people poor other than an unwillingness to work their way out of poverty. Entitlements are not the answer to reducing poverty. Personal responsibility, education and hard work are better solutions. The Socialist mantra of redistribution of wealth sounds good to some but where has that program succeeded?
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vagabond78666
07:33 PM on 10/21/2011
its not a tax the rich..its have taxes go back to Reagan or pre G W Bush era levels
02:43 AM on 10/25/2011
Does that include tax rates at all levels of income at the Reagan era rates?
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Tom Theodosiades
01:54 AM on 10/20/2011
2 new taxes on the bottom 80% to make up a 26% to the top 10%?

Finally, a republican dumb enough to expose his party's true purpose: naked class warfare perpetrated on people to dumb to know better. And you thought the GOP's obstruction of Education was a stupid move. Stupid like a fox!
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Righterthenthou76
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11:55 PM on 10/19/2011
Cain has a shot to push this crap though the GOP primaries, especially with the other candidates sucking the air out of the room every time they start talking. Republican voters either don't give a flip about the dangers of 999 or more likely, don't care/want to see them happen. Cain is the best Democrats can hope for, because Americans in a general election aren't quite stupid enough to buy the expired pizza he's peddling. That is unless the occupy wall street Marxists confuse the left and drive down turnout for Obama. You laugh now, I hope I'm wrong this time next year.
02:45 AM on 10/25/2011
As if a Democratic controlled Senate would ever vote for this plan. The GOP would need 60 GOP seats to get this through the senate and even then it is doubtful that either the house or senate would pass it.
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cristoballs
It's all downhill from here...
05:34 PM on 10/19/2011
i can't say i fully support the cain 999 plan, but i read over the tax policy center's explanation of how they figured the numbers, and it seems to make way too many assumptions. so it's really hard to say if anyone would pay more or less under such a plan. for instance, would the sales tax portion of his plan apply to things we don't normally pay sales taxes on like groceries, rent, etc. also, is it fair to assume that under such a plan lower income people would spend money on frivalous things, or would they be more prone to save money? these are important things to consider, that i feel were just assumed would remain constant under the analysis performed by the tpc. i know the common sentiment to fix our economic problems in this country is to simply the tax the rich, but who ultimately pays the price when production is being taxed (in various)? this is something that even cain's policy fails to address. for instance, even payroll taxes (paid by the employer) are ultimately absorbed in the final price which consumers pay for goods and services. this is also something that the tpc analysis doesn't mention. why not simplify things by removing all taxes, and simply instituting a consumption (sales) tax on consumer goods, rather than taxing production?
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proudtohaveserved
03:31 PM on 10/19/2011
BYE, BYE, HERM, FINALLY, NOW WE KNOW WHAT THE KOCH BROTHERS ARE PAYING FOR. . LAWERENCE O'DONNELL EXPLAINED EVERYTHING TO THE AMERICAN PEOPLE LAST WEEK.. YOUR 15 MINUTES ARE UP.
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NickTAZ
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12:57 PM on 10/19/2011
This man is a banker. He was a director at the Federal Reserve. I can't imagine why that isn't more important than his tenure as a CEO at a pizza company.
09:55 AM on 10/21/2011
He was member of a Federal Reserve District Board in Kansas. They would meet, talk through the economic developments and data in their areas, and offer some advice. Fed economists would listen. Hardly qualifies him as a banker, or a boogeyman. It actually gives him some insight into how they system works, nothing more.
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NickTAZ
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10:58 AM on 10/21/2011
Not a member- Chairman. And as far as them sitting around talking about economic developments and how to respond, that is exactly what bankers do. I wasn't suggesting that he was a bank teller...
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kareemachan
watashi ha tororu ga oroka da to omoi masu。
12:00 PM on 10/19/2011
What a shocker!

Not.
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12:00 PM on 10/19/2011
Not to worry...Herman Cains 999 Plan was just a joke....The Koch Bros are working on a even better plan for next week.
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LoneRanger2011
Hi-yo, Silver! Away!
06:16 AM on 10/20/2011
Next week? Isn't that when Rick Perry unveils his tax plan? I guess the Kochs are working overtime on another tax plan. Should be interesting. Or not. :-)
09:57 AM on 10/21/2011
Dont worry, George Soros will always work on the counter plan. Lets have a dual of the Rich folks, one for Republicans, one for Democrats. That would be fun to watch.