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Bob McDonnell's Education Department Admits Obama's Policies Saved Or Created 7,715 Teacher Jobs

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First Posted: 10/18/11 05:59 PM ET Updated: 10/18/11 06:07 PM ET

WASHINGTON -- President Obama's decision to separate his jobs bill into individual pieces and push for funds to hire teachers and first responders first has so far failed to convince any Republicans lawmakers of its efficacy. And in large part, the pushback from the GOP has been fairly straightforward. As House Speaker John Boehner's (R-Ohio) office argued in an email on Monday, the administration has already asked for and received billions of dollars in direct aid to states for the purposes of retaining teachers and putting firefighters and cops back to work -- and it hasn't made a lick of difference.

"Will the President at some point explain the endgame to this economic strategy?" said Press Secretary Brendan Buck.

It's unlikely that any explanation offered by the White House will end up changing the vote count substantially enough to get a bill passed. But various indicators dispute the notion that state governments, and the jobs they support, haven't benefited from past infusions of federal cash -- most convincing among them from the states themselves.

Take, for example, Virginia, the state where the president is speaking on Tuesday as part of an ongoing effort to sell his jobs bill. A spokesperson for the Department of Education there tells The Huffington Post that 7,715 teacher jobs have been saved or created because of the money provided by the recovery act. The spokesperson, Julie Grimes, wasn't completely certain whether that total included the $26 billion in additional money that Congress appropriated in an emergency jobs bill passed in August of 2010. News reports around that time indicated that Virginia would receive $246.6 million in federal aid that would save 3,800 teacher positions in the state.

These figures, it should be noted, were provided by the education department of a Republican-run state government. Gov. Bob McDonnell has been a vocal critic of federal spending. But in February of 2010, he along with 46 other governors signed a letter requesting federal "assistance in protecting jobs and speeding economic recovery by extending the American Recovery and Reinvestment Act's enhanced federal match for Medicaid (FMAP) for two additional quarters."

One early criticism of the Obama administration's state aid program was that governors were simply using the money they were allocated to fill in budget shortfalls, rather than fund job creation measures. But an administration official confirmed that the funds currently being debated, like the money passed in 2010, has strings attached: it can only be used to hire or retain teachers and first responders. According to a fact sheet distributed by the White House, Virginia could stand to receive more than $425 million in funds, which would support 5,500 jobs, if Congress passes this specific portion of the American Jobs Act.

Republican leadership has been presented with these data points before. But in light of yet another debate over what role, if any, the federal government should play in helping out states, GOP aides have fallen back on the argument that another cash infusion would do little to solve the long-term problems of unemployment.

"[C]an we simply expect the President to be asking for another big check next year as well?" asked Buck, Boehner's press secretary. "Maybe it’s time we try an approach focused on putting folks back to work for the long haul."

There are several reasons that the White House has successfully gotten money for teacher and first responder aid through Congress in the past. The most obvious is that there were more Democrats than Republicans in office. Beneath the whip counts, however, was the pressure that Republican state lawmakers put on their federal colleagues to lend a hand.

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WASHINGTON -- President Obama's decision to separate his jobs bill into individual pieces and push for funds to hire teachers and first responders first has so far failed to convince any Republicans l...
WASHINGTON -- President Obama's decision to separate his jobs bill into individual pieces and push for funds to hire teachers and first responders first has so far failed to convince any Republicans l...
 
 
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shewolf2002
EDUCATION is a national security issue.
12:52 PM on 10/25/2011
Apparently education jobs won't matter to the GOP cult until they've privatized education and made it for-profit.
01:34 AM on 10/20/2011
It amazes me how much a difference in perspective matters. It seems that the closer you are to a problem, the better you understand it. State level government deal much more closely with educational issues than federal level does. We have Republican state governors admitting that Obamas actions have had positive effect. Of course Perry is a good example of that change in perspective - as Governor of Texas, he requested a great deal of aid that was put in place by liberals - his state would not have been able to remain solvent without it. Now that his eyes are set higher, he condemns such programs.

I am not a great fan of Obama, but the ideas he has managed to push through have had positive effects, and the problems we still have often lead back to blocks to policies he suggested that look like they could have helped, if they had made it through.

I would consider any reasonable, self thinking candidate that could manage a campaign that answers questions without fear that someone would ask something that shows their mental compartmentalization of ideals. Right now, the only one in the ring that can keep his facts straight, (and I mean actual fact, not this corporate run, business leaning media twisting of half-truths flavored with out and out lies) is Obama. Until there is even one person throwing in their hat that can do that, then we need to support the man with the working plan.
02:27 PM on 10/19/2011
Republicans are always running from the facts. They can't win on them!
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roaddawg31
02:24 PM on 10/19/2011
Here's the thing: All young teachers want to do is work. They want to teach. They want their own classroom. Of course, they want to earn a nice salary... but that's NOT their primary goal. They just spent a semester teaching for free (student-teaching), and have worked hard to finish their credential. All they want at this point is a classroom of their own. As a community, we should recognize this and and utilize it. It's such a waste to have this group sitting around doing nothing.

Now, as a contrast, tenured teachers--their primary goal isn't "to have their own classroom" etc. Their primary goal is their income. And that's not a knock against them: that's life. They have kids, a mortgage, bills to pay... but I'm making the contrast because it illustrates the dichotomy that has been created, where the people who WANT to be there are barred, while the people who sort-of HAVE TO be there are rewarded. And THEY have made it that way--they've basically pitted themselves (the Have's) against the young teachers who are barred from teaching (the Havenot's). Room should be made for both groups, for the benefit of all!

Note: I'm not saying that young teachers are better. All I'm saying is that we have a tremendous resource there that is begging to be used, begging to be cultivated, and we just let them sit there and rot on the vine.
08:44 PM on 10/19/2011
Nonsense.
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PamperedHousecat
Dogs drool, cats rule
06:09 PM on 10/20/2011
By the time I was 27, I had been teaching for 6 years, and my spouse and I had 2 children. Back then, you had to teach 3 years before you started tenure.
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There were teachers my age who chose to leave, because they felt they were not being appreciated and/or supported for their work (by the administration,the children, the parents); went to 9-5 jobs w/o homework (marking papers, making lesson plans,creating and marking tests); and/or they got burned out by the demands made upon them. This was ALL before NCLB.
I don't remember any teacher that went into college specifically to be a teacher, leaving because of money. (We did go on strike, at times, since nobody got groceries for dedication.)

But there were friends, who went into teaching because they couldn't find work in the major they had chosen. Many of them found teaching to be satisfying. There were those who became teachers as a stepping stone to administration (that's where the money was, and still is).
When I retired in 2007, we were asked to give the young teachers advice.
Mine was "Hang in there. It will get better, it will get worse, and then it'll get better again, but you'll be surprised when you meet an old student, and they tell you how much you meant to them.
Basically THAT'S THE REWARD.

ps: Please remember, dedication will not fill your gas tank. Teachers need to be paid!
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roaddawg31
10:22 AM on 10/21/2011
Very well put. I appreciate your comment.
And yes, I agree "teachers need to be paid!" New and laid-off teachers ARE teachers.
12:46 PM on 10/19/2011
So Rs lie? Wow, what a revelation.
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JoanMeijer
Author of Relentless: The Search For Typhoid Mary
12:14 PM on 10/19/2011
Republicans will never be convinced because they don't want to hand Obama a victory - If I were a Republican I would be worried about handing the Republicans a defeat. Unless the can suppress all the voters in America they don't have a big enough margin to visibly keep people out of work for the next 17 months.
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inmyhumbleopinion
Vote third party.
12:14 PM on 10/19/2011
Wow. A whole 8000 teachers. Tell that to the other 292,000 who have been laid off since 2008. http://thinkprogress.org/progress-report/
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Nicole Antonopulos
12:55 PM on 10/19/2011
So you would prefere 0 to 8000? It's your right to vote third party, but please don't complain when non-voters and third party voters help Republicans win elections. You might be right on principle but voting 3rd party only hurts teachers, and others in the real-world. The problem with politics and two-party system is the money in our elections. Working towards a constitutional solution for funding elections is our only hope, voting for someone who will never be elected and could just as easily be bought is not.
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CSDofNM
I speak lolcat
07:51 PM on 10/19/2011
"Working towards a constituti­onal solution for funding elections is our only hope"

This just isn't true, Nicole. We don't need to fund elections at all.

Select Congressmen and Senators the same way we do jury duty. Random draw from the pool of registered voters. Fair, efficient, non-partisan.

We would get better, more intelligent and less belligerent Congresscritters, too.

Still have to do it through Constitutional Amendment. Who would vote to end their own party? Same problem applies to Dylan Ratigan's idea. You can never get it passed in Constitutional Convention, or State Legislatures for ratification.
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inmyhumbleopinion
Vote third party.
01:38 PM on 10/20/2011
I reserve my right to complain about our two-party, do-nothing system that rewards hyper-partisanship at the expense of the citizenry. We need to work not just for changes to election campaign funding, but also to fundamentally change this binary system.
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broui
No d#%& cat. No d#%& cradle.
12:25 AM on 10/23/2011
You understand that yet another bill that would have saved more teacher jobs was filibustered the other night.
11:59 AM on 10/19/2011
Have you noticed how Boehner's statements are getting more and more divisive and attacking on the president and the WH? It's like he's been chosen to play lead quarterback and when it's time for him to play, he just sits in the middle of the field and stares straight ahead. "Not gonna play unless it's my way."
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exclintonsupporter
Love your enemy --- it messes with their heads!!!
11:53 AM on 10/19/2011
Good for them. That is the thing that I just don't get...if nothing else, we need to educate our children...our children are our future...why in the world would the GOP not support this President on making sure that our teachers are qualified and that we have enough teachers to teach our children?

When did being the "Most Stupid" country in the WORLD become so popular?
01:24 PM on 10/19/2011
They need to keep the economy paralyzed because otherwise they can't defeat Obama. Simple as that.
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fgrammit
01:45 PM on 10/19/2011
the only way to keep their current rehtoric alive is to keep the people illiterate enough to believe their lies
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p456
Walking Tall.
05:33 AM on 10/19/2011
Why do we have to be the stupid country? Why do Americans keep voting for the same people over and over again? Now to make things worse we have this embarrassing spectacle called the GOPTKLANBAGGERS showing the whole world just how far we have slipped.
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behavingbadly
lovingly crafted artisanal comments
08:15 AM on 10/19/2011
They obviously believe that America's true calling is to be the world's "class clown".

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Hammer0311
Govt is the problem
11:53 AM on 10/19/2011
Yes Reid and Pelosi are still in office
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mmsuki
Fine; I evolved, you didn't.
02:18 PM on 10/19/2011
*Yawn*...
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Cheri Quinn
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01:18 AM on 10/19/2011
The Republicans aren't going to pass any pieces of the American Jobs Act. On the other hand they can explain those decisions to the many Republican governors whose states are struggling and laying off thousands of teachers, firefighters, and police. As their bridges collapse, their roads crumble, their airports become outdated or too crowded to be safe, and rail traffic reroutes because of needed track repairs, then please do beseech Congress to act on something useful. Don't count on it happening since you Republican colleagues are willing to let the economy continue to tank so they can try to insure their reelections - counting on the American people to have short memories. I think this time they may be surprised by the outright anger the people have against them for their obstructionism - especially since their obstructionism doesn't flow from their concern for the country, but, rather for their attempt at self-preservation.
gparks
Fan of truth, justice, prosperity for all!
12:25 AM on 10/19/2011
Yet another example of Republican lies, distortions and hypocracy ... the federal government in FACT does create and save JOBS ...right now!

How do these nuts think people will make it ...while waiting on these "long-term" JOBS bill they tout ?

What good does it do our economy NOW ... if we have to wait 2-3 years for oil wells to come on line, tax breaks to take effect, etc?

The Republicans are NOT just wanting Americans to fail ... they are activley making it happen!
01:26 PM on 10/19/2011
Regarding tax breaks - Obama has cut taxes more for the average citizen than any president in recent history.
gparks
Fan of truth, justice, prosperity for all!
09:31 PM on 10/19/2011
True THAT!

Yet to hear the Republican tea bagger right wing scream machine ... he's RAISED everybody's taxes apon entering office ....and thereby is oppressing the white man and redistrubuting the wealth to Black and Brown peoples .. cross their heart and hope to die!

I want to Fan ...and don't see the button.

Will attempt to FAN you ASAP
gparks
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09:40 PM on 10/19/2011
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fgrammit
01:42 PM on 10/19/2011
spot on and they are being lead by their corporate masters for those masters to take over our government so they can continue to keep down the middle class and others.
gparks
Fan of truth, justice, prosperity for all!
09:33 PM on 10/19/2011
Yep ... THAT is the plan!

Fanned
11:43 PM on 10/18/2011
you know, this money may have helped to save or retain teaching jobs, however, the way it works is hurting schools. in our district teachers were laid off then rehired, this ended up causing a huge bumping process and basically reshuffled a significant portion of our teachers. the result was most people were still working, but many were in a different classroom. this has a huge and negative impact on the quality of what happens at the schools and in the classrooms. so stop playing politics and figure out a way to properly fund education in the first place!
gparks
Fan of truth, justice, prosperity for all!
12:27 AM on 10/19/2011
Don't depend on Republicans ... they want to abolish the Dept of Education ... No department ... NO funding!

Brought to you by the Party of Hell No!
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Berettasskeeter
For what we are about to receive, may we be truly
11:03 AM on 10/19/2011
Really? NO FUNDING? Really? Who has responsibility for education, the Feds, or the States? Hint, it's the states! State taxes, mostly in the form of real estate taxes, fund the lion's share of state education. The downturn in receipts comes from lessened property values, which ultimately is the fault of the Federal government's regulations! Abolishing the Dept. of Education would return total control of education to school boards, which would then be far more responsive, and responsible, to the parents that send their children to school. Most folks are NOT going to approve of the social engineering going on in school, and demand more emphasis on the 3 R's. This will result in an increase in actual literacy in this country, something that has suffered since the inception of the Dept. of Education!
Semper fi
01:30 PM on 10/19/2011
That's not the fault of the stimulus program; it's the fault of the district and how they managed the financial crisis. Would it have been better not to hire any of those people back?
01:45 PM on 10/19/2011
of course not, but being in a position where we need to apply band-aids after the fact is a function of pure political posturing. Its like saying we have 3 options, good, worse and worst and then arguing that because worse is better than worst, good should not be an option.
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Oceras
Tax High Incomes!
11:13 PM on 10/18/2011
Republicans do not belong to the fact-based community.
albar
Republicans gathered in their political graves
11:46 PM on 10/18/2011
Republicans don't belong..........PERIOD
gparks
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12:28 AM on 10/19/2011
True THAT!

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wonketteRAWKS
Hypocrisy is prevalent in BOTH parties!
10:55 PM on 10/18/2011
And Obama thinks OWS is comparable to the tea party.
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broui
No d#%& cat. No d#%& cradle.
12:29 AM on 10/23/2011
Before the Koch Bros came into the picture, we were hearing ostensibly the same arguments - if less articulately.

BTW, so does Jon Stewart.