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Joe Biden Warns Again: Rape, Murder Will Rise Without Jobs Bill

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First Posted: 10/19/11 07:14 PM ET Updated: 12/19/11 05:12 AM ET

WASHINGTON -- Vice President Joe Biden doubled down Wednesday on his charge that rape and murder will rise if Congress fails to pass the American Jobs Act.

Minutes after addressing a firefighters rally in a Senate office building to push for passage of (at least) a $35 billion provision that would pay for the hiring of hundreds of thousands of police officers, teachers and firefighters, Biden was challenged by a reporter over his crime claims.

Biden insisted, "Murder will continue to rise. Rape will continue to rise. All crime will continue to rise."

Conservatives have criticized Biden for linking crime rates to stimulus spending, saying the money was wasted on all sorts of things that had nothing to do with increasing safety.

But in this case, the vice president was making a much more direct link. Biden -- who in the 1990s was one of the original authors of the COPS legislation, which led to the hiring of some 100,000 police officers -- was arguing that cities and towns hammered by the economy would continue to cut police forces without the federal aid now sitting in the Senate. And fewer police officers would lead to more crime in these tough times.

After the Senate filibustered the American Jobs Act last week, the White House broke it into several pieces, starting with the $35 billion measure on municipal workers -- which includes $5 billion for some 18,000 police officers and firefighters.

"Police departments, as I said, in some cases [have been] literally cut in half, like Camden, N.J., and Flint, Mich.," Biden said during the rally. "In many cities, the result has been -- and it's not unique -- murder rates are up, robberies are up, rapes are up."

In Flint -- where Biden's remarks have been criticized -- he noted that the police force numbered 265 in 2008 and there were 35 murders and 91 rapes. In 2010, there were 144 cops and the city recorded 65 murders and 229 rapes.

"Ladies and gentlemen, the consequences of these losses are real, and they're now," Biden said. "But the interesting thing is, why I said this is simple -- and I say to the press, this is very, very simple, man -- there's a solution. We can do something about it right now. It's not rocket science. Right now."

And that something, said Biden, is to pass the measure dubbed the Teachers and First Responders Back to Work Act.

The bill would be paid for by slapping a one-half percent tax on income above $1 million, excluding the first million entirely. Biden mocked Republican criticism that such a tax constituted class warfare.

"Class warfare," he said to laughs. "Seriously. I mean, seriously. This is bizarre. This is bizarre."

He argued that the tax was modest, saying the people affected wouldn't even object.

"If you make $1.1 million when, God willing, this passes, you will pay next year $500 more in taxes," Biden said. "You got that? Now, the average income for the group of people we're talking about is $3 million."

"The choice is pretty clear," Biden concluded. "I believe the vast majority of American people and I believe the vast majority of millionaires know this isn't about soaking the rich."


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WASHINGTON -- Vice President Joe Biden doubled down Wednesday on his charge that rape and murder will rise if Congress fails to pass the American Jobs Act. Minutes after addressing a firefighters r...
WASHINGTON -- Vice President Joe Biden doubled down Wednesday on his charge that rape and murder will rise if Congress fails to pass the American Jobs Act. Minutes after addressing a firefighters r...
 
 
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quillerm
10:12 AM on 10/22/2011
What Hippocrits democrats can be, there are over 500,000 hard core Illegal Immigrant criminals currently on the FBI search list. The Obama Regime is promoting policies that make it impossible to find these cirminals and democrats have set up dozens of Sanctuary Cities for them to hide. A vast amount of these criminals are rapists, child molesters and murderers. The Regime is allowing Illegal Immigrant criminals to terrorize our cities, abducting children and murdering innocent people. Obama and Biden are the problem not the solution.
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new 10 ole ole
12:47 AM on 10/22/2011
We all remember in the late 80's that it was revealed that Biden plagerized while in grad school. He was forgiven as a good old boy. Similare to the New England Senator who lied about "serving in Vietnam" , and , then the donkey party re elected him. John Edwards is the Dem poster child for party of donkey.
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vairmeck
Right minded
12:36 AM on 10/22/2011
I think Joe should be riding along on the bus tour...following in the short bus though
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vairmeck
Right minded
12:35 AM on 10/22/2011
The real crime occuring is this guy accepting a paycheck
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vairmeck
Right minded
12:33 AM on 10/22/2011
Village idiot...the sequel
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schotts
Strength and Honor
12:28 AM on 10/22/2011
"...continue to rise...". Does he know violent crimes is declining and has been for years. Down again in 2010. Check the FBI Uniform Crime Reports for yourself.

The guy is a joke. I'm hoping for change alright.
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maxom
Just flew over the coo coo's nest
01:42 AM on 10/22/2011
Ol' Biden is biddin' for 4 more years of comedy.
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Cat9
Nov 2012 Can't Get Here Fast Enough!
12:16 AM on 10/22/2011
"I've never been more ashamed of my VP"
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rickroland
Two Parties, Same Crap
12:12 AM on 10/22/2011
Joe has completely lost his already tenuous grip on reality -- he also floated hope of a 2016 Presidential campaign run which -- is the best joke I have heard in a long time! HAHAHA!
10:50 PM on 10/21/2011
From Joseph Biden, President of Vice to Josef Biden, Minister of Propaganda.
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westcoastbum
Careful what you say....The IRS may be listening.
10:37 PM on 10/21/2011
Simply amazing. Every time his lips move out comes another fabrication.
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vairmeck
Right minded
12:38 AM on 10/22/2011
when they are not attached to the bosses rear quarters
10:36 PM on 10/21/2011
Are we talking about the same JOBS Mr. Biden? That's why I loved Mathematics my whole life until I took a statistics class in college. You can always compare anything with anything, and probably get away with it.
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nlkennedy
Realism Only
04:04 PM on 10/21/2011
How on earth is Joe not right about this?

It's not just less police to respond and help to these horrible situations that arise in our communites..

Massive unemployment is a socio-economic crisis WHERE CRIME RISES IN IT'S INEVITABLE WAY!

We arent above these problems just because we are America.

I liked when Clinton fostered the creation of 20 million jobs and had the lowest levels of poverty and crime in decades.

They are absolutely interconnected. JOE IS RIGHT
04:48 PM on 10/21/2011
JOE IS RIGHT? REALLY!! Most of this money will never get to the police or firefighters, it will be used up by the adminstration in overseeing the funds. Or it will be used to buy equipment or other thing, like raises for the police and firefighters, not more people. Police need to get out into the street and out of the offices. And most firefighter trucks are over staffed, its real easy to keep adding to the size of the crews, but heaven forbid reducing them.
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07:29 AM on 10/23/2011
Really? "Most firefighter trucks are over-staffed." That's a cavalier statement to make. I hope you are never in the position of losing your home, or even worse, loved ones to a fire in your home or business. These men bravely take their lives in their hands to go into a burning home to rescue men, women, children, and even family pets, very often as volunteer firefighters. It's easy to speak statistics when referring to these brave men, unless and/or until you are the victim of a terrible fire in your home or business
02:29 PM on 10/21/2011
imagine this idiot is a heartbeat from the presidency...they have to get this guy on a shorter leash
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rickroland
Two Parties, Same Crap
12:13 AM on 10/22/2011
Yeah, I used to be worried that Nancy was two heartbeats away, but Joe has really worked hard to ensure that the entire country is worried about him being just one heartbeat away. Wow!
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vairmeck
Right minded
12:39 AM on 10/22/2011
well at least she would have always been smiling...like she has a choice though..(mother of the Joker)
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10:08 AM on 10/21/2011
Tmachine,

Absolutely wrong. Do not spread that propaganda. Unemplyment is 200 basis points higher than it was when Obama took office, even after spending over a trillion in stimulus money. Period.

Your unfounded comments like "it would have been higher if not for the stimulus" are fuzzy numbers and you know it. Obama has been President for 3 years and he is now responsible.