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Alabama Immigration Law: Deli Owner Defends Documented Latinos, Receives Boycott Threats

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First Posted: 10/20/11 05:38 PM ET Updated: 12/20/11 05:12 AM ET

When Alabama's sweeping new immigration law went into effect last month, Birmingham business owner Steve Dubrinsky realized he had a serious problem.

Dubrinsky runs Max's Delicatessen, a classic Jewish deli, in the city's Inverness neighborhood. In the kitchen he employs several Latino workers, all of whom, he says, provided the necessary documentation when he hired them, and none of whom have given him reason to believe they're in Alabama illegally.

And yet several of them have told Dubrinsky to start looking for replacements. Even though his employees say they're here legally, they've told him they either have undocumented relatives who they must leave with, or they simply no longer feel comfortable as Latinos in Alabama. The new law authorizes police to demand documentation if they have "reasonable suspicion" someone is in the country illegally.

Dubrinksy was so concerned about his burgeoning staff problem that he spoke to the Birmingham News about it last week.

"They are scared and I can't blame them," he told the paper, speaking about his documented employees. "It is affecting a lot of restaurants. It's a mess."

Suddenly, Dubrinsky had much greater problems.

The morning the article ran, Dubrinsky hopped in his car and turned on local talk radio, only to discover that the discussion topic was Dubrinsky himself. The host and his guests were trying to decide whether or not they should boycott the deli.

Dubrinsky grabbed his paper and read the Birmingham News article just to make sure he hadn't been misquoted, perhaps voicing support for undocumented immigrants. Indeed, he was quoted accurately, showing sympathy for the area's properly documented workers.

It hardly mattered. Dubrinsky was being tarred as an illegal-immigrant lover.

"People twisted what the story said," Dubrinsky told HuffPost. "I was under attack."

The article had been shared on an anti-immigrant website, and Dubrinsky was soon bombarded with vitriolic hate email, some of which he shared with HuffPost.

One reads: "well u can bet your ass that i will never eat in your resturant agian and will tell everybody i know what kind of person you are for suporting those dam wetback that are ruining our country."

Another: "if you cant keep the doors open and employ legal people then it is time to close."

And another: "I hope your unamerican establishment closes down!!!!"

The assault on Dubrinsky and his restaurant shows just how risky it can be for a business owner to publicly stake out even a moderate position in Alabama's immigration debate. Dubrinsky's wife happens to be a U.S. citizen from Mexico, and he says he never imagined he could be attacked for supporting the Latinos who, like her, have every right to be in the country. The nastiness of the past week has left him shocked and saddened.

"This hatred being spewed anonymously," he says, "it's very scary."

Just as bad as the hate mail was the hit to his restaurant's reputation online. After the article ran, Google was quickly flooded with negative reviews of Max's Deli from people, many who had probably never eaten there. By Dubrinsky's count, it was more than 70 reviews in two days, and they all remain on the web today. His loyal customers tried to chime in with positive words, but they were drowned out in a chorus of hate from first-time reviewers, dropping his rating to 1.5 stars out of 5.

One recent review reads, "You could not pay me to patronize this place!"

"Not one American worker in the place. Move your Deli to Mexico," read another by a reviewer who was only identified as Cherie.

"Food is marginal at best. Employs only Illegal immigrants. Owner and entire staff are rude. Don't go here!!!" reads a third review, which, like many of the recent reviews, came from first-time reviewers.

(The vicious reviews stood in stark contract to the reputation of Max's Deli at Urbanspoon.com, the popular foodie site, where registered users have given the restaurant an enviable 81 percent rating out of 49 reviews.)

Not all of the hatred has poured in from out-of-state. Last Wednesday, many businesses were closed as Latinos skipped work to protest the new law, which is the harshest of its kind in the country. Dubrinsky convinced his workers to come in for the day, though he decided to shut down early -- at 5 p.m., as opposed to the typical 8:30 p.m. -- in a show of solidarity with his staff. He hung a sign on his door explaining his compromise.

He was pilloried for the early closing, too, receiving more hate emails -- emails that, sadly, could have come only from his fellow residents who noticed the sign.

Dubrinsky has remained remarkably diplomatic through it all. After receiving a nasty email from a woman he didn't know, Dubrinsky wrote an email back to her, sending her a link to the story and explaining his side of things. They had a little back-and-forth, and the woman ended up apologizing and asking him for forgiveness. When he received a nasty phone call from a stranger in Michigan, Dubrinsky tried to explain himself rather than simply hang up. But the woman couldn't be reasoned with.

Regardless of what happens to his reputation, Dubrinsky says he's worried about losing longtime staffers who he describes as good workers as well as good people. "They're like family to me," he says. Despite a national unemployment rate above 9 percent, he says that finding non-Latino workers willing to toil in his hot kitchen for modest pay has not been easy, just as many farmers are having a hard time finding non-Latino workers willing to pick their fields.

"It's easier said than done," says Dubrinsky.

To prepare for his vacancies, Dubrinsky offered a job to a woman at $8.25 per hour a couple of weeks ago. After initially accepting, she called back to say she couldn't take it because she'd lose her food stamps and government-funded health care. More recently, Dubrinsky hired a man to work the grill in the kitchen. He showed up on Sunday but didn't last long.

Dubrinsky says the man disappeared after just two hours, leaving only an apron in his place.

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When Alabama's sweeping new immigration law went into effect last month, Birmingham business owner Steve Dubrinsky realized he had a serious problem. Dubrinsky runs Max's Delicatessen, a classic J...
When Alabama's sweeping new immigration law went into effect last month, Birmingham business owner Steve Dubrinsky realized he had a serious problem. Dubrinsky runs Max's Delicatessen, a classic J...
 
 
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02:52 AM on 10/26/2011
I ate here just last week. Best reubens in town. I wonder why we cannot put ourselves in their shoes and wonder what would we do if we were in their shoes. I would run for the border too. They are not taking jobs from Americans. Americans will not do these jobs for this pay, so if you could hire Americans, everything would have to go up in order to pay Americans the pay they would demand. Then not as much would be bought and more unemployment and failing businesses would ensue. Employers should be fined and punished for hiring illegals because if they knowingly hire illegals they are taking advantage of them to put more money in their own pocket.
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mamabeverley
06:25 PM on 10/25/2011
How sad a country we have become. Do we not have better things to do than go onto this restaurants review site and bash him because he has hired perfectly legal workers? What happened to this country being the great melting pot? These people doing the bashing should be ashamed, these workers are legal, taxpaying and working really hard. I would pay anyone of the "false witnesses" to work in that kitchen for 1 day. Restaurant work is the worst ever, hot, sweaty and most of the time, thankless.

I wonder if anyone of them while committing this sin realizes they broke one of the Commandments they are so fond of preaching.
mira chancleta
C'mon, there's NO "La Tino" race
10:41 PM on 10/29/2011
mama, the pot has boiled over and no one wants to clean up the mess
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mamabeverley
03:54 PM on 10/30/2011
The pot has been boiling over for years and it was just ignored. Now it is being ignored again for a different reason. If it does not fit the TeaP agenda, it is ignored by one side. It it fits the TeaP agenda, it is ignored on the other side. We need to fire both sides and get people in there willing to actually work to clean up the fracking mess.
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Roses
In a gentle way, you can shake the world.
01:36 AM on 10/25/2011
He defends legal migrants and receives hate speech for it?
What has my beloved country come to?
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mickcastillo
It is a brand new day!
12:52 AM on 10/25/2011
It is a sad day when a businessman is trying to do his best and people are trying to wreck him by doing all this. It the type of some of the people in Alabama. They are a bunch of xenophobes who have a loud voice, and lacking intelligence they make a lot of noise to drown out reasonable people. They will intimidate to achieve an end rather than civil discourse. Coommonsense has lost it way and bypassed some addresses.Not all Alabamans are like that though and even though business will slow down for a bit, it will eventually pick up.
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RevMike
05:01 PM on 10/24/2011
I went to Max's on Saturday before the Auburn game. It's a little out of my way, and I usually try to avoid 280 because the traffic is so bad, but the reuben I got more than made up for it. The place was packed, but I got home just in time for kickoff.

The story has been all over everybody's FB page that lives around here, and there has been a huge rally to support Steve and Max's Deli. There's a lot more people here that hate bullies than the slack-jaws that are fomenting this whole thing.

Those folks just like to shout a lot, and are given a big microphone by the local talk radio stations.

Matt Murphy, the local radio guy that is stirring up all of this, had Steve on his show this morning under the pretext of "clearing the air". After what started as an amicable discussion, Matt turned on a dime and cranked the outrage back up, accusing Steve:

"I think you hire illegals. I think you KNOW you hire illegals."

I don't think I can post the link here, but you can find the interview from this morning on Matt Murphy's website
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chevyliddle
what's a micro-bayou?
08:43 PM on 10/24/2011
According to the article, he can't find help and yet you say the place was packed. Who was making your sandwich?
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RevMike
11:37 AM on 10/25/2011
Yes, but where does it say that he currently has no employees?

According to the article (which I'm assuming you read):

"several of them have told Dubrinsky to start looking for replacements."

Steve told me that he has only had one person quit, so it's not like nobody is working there at the moment.
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Scott Kane
01:16 PM on 10/24/2011
Simple solution. Scan a barcode (or type it in ) from a receipt in order to prove that you actually patronized the business in order to be allowed to write a review on YELP, or Google Places. Tie it in to some sort of a coupon to entice loyal customers.
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dadw5boys
Disabled Vietnam Vet
02:34 AM on 10/24/2011
Poor Guy feeling the blunt force of his fellow Republicans .
Does he charge less for the food he sells than those who sell the same thing with all Legal Employees ?????

Sure he does .........
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Winter Skye
Spiritual being not human doing
10:23 PM on 10/23/2011
Hey, how about this novel concept? How about paying $12 an hour instead of being chintzy?!
01:54 PM on 10/24/2011
How about the novel concept (to you) of doing a study and finding out how much you can pay your employees to keep your business running ? An employer losing his business because of greedy employees doesn't mean MORE jobs, but LESS jobs.
"Being chintzy" is something that sometimes must be done, especially with lazy employees. And chasing off people who agree with the wages will never make an employer pay you more. It doesn't work like this. For better wages, you have to work HARDER.
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Winter Skye
Spiritual being not human doing
07:14 PM on 10/24/2011
Yeah, I have seen that movie before. Lots of landscapers in my town. The truck has a big ole green shamrock painted on it and an Irish name for the company. The employees all have very dark skin and look to be from Mexico, Hondures, and Guatemala. So they are working hard and the boss (whom I never see) is hardly working.
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chevyliddle
what's a micro-bayou?
08:47 PM on 10/24/2011
"For better wages, you have to work HARDER."

It also helps a lot if you're legal.
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ANuttyReader
03:33 PM on 11/02/2011
News flash: immigrants - legal or not, make good money $12 an hour, they live here, they have to pay rent, but food, pay bills.. they don't make less money than us citizens, they do the work that us citizen do not want to do.
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gingerred
Proud lesbian conservative
02:56 PM on 10/23/2011
After initially accepting, she called back to say she couldn't take it because she'd lose her food stamps and government-funded health care.
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That SAYS IT ALL> THEY NEED TO CHANGE THAT FAST TO IF YOU DO NOT ACCEPT THE WORK OFFERED YOU LOSE YOUR HELP!
04:21 PM on 10/23/2011
" More recently, Dubrinsky hired a man to work the grill in the kitchen. He showed up on Sunday but didn't last long.
Dubrinsky says the man disappeared after just two hours, leaving only an apron in his place."

Yup, legal unemployed citizens, maybe even raving here in the comment section about legal and illegal latinos who occupy their potential jobs :)). It doesn't get more typical.
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Proud lesbian conservative
05:15 PM on 10/23/2011
yes the same woman who turned down the honest job is saying the Government needs to spend more to "MAKE" jobs.
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frank day
Obama cares about all of U.S.
06:00 PM on 10/23/2011
Like you've ever worked.
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chevyliddle
what's a micro-bayou?
08:39 PM on 10/23/2011
Did you ever stop to think that Mr. Dubrinsky isn't offering medical insurance? What would you do?
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kimpjones
GOP = a whole basket full of crazy
09:02 PM on 10/23/2011
Exactly. At $8.25 a hour, if he offers 40 hours a week, it is only $330 a week before taxes. Would she also need to pay for child care? I am all for working for a living, but if in the end, a person is losing money, is it worth it?!
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Rules Too
01:57 PM on 10/23/2011
More Christians at work. But don't ask them to do the work.
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Proud lesbian conservative
02:59 PM on 10/23/2011
After initially accepting, she called back to say she couldn't take it because she'd lose her food stamps and government-funded health care.
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The above is an example of the GOVERNMENT'S SOLUTIONS so far. A class of people so dependent that they turn down honest money.
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frank day
Obama cares about all of U.S.
06:00 PM on 10/23/2011
Sound like Bankers.
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chevyliddle
what's a micro-bayou?
08:44 PM on 10/23/2011
Put yourself in her shoes and then imagine that Mr. Dubrinsky isn't offering medical insurance to his employees.
12:23 PM on 10/23/2011
I see such hate and discontent in these posts. The south is purported to be the bastion of the ' Religious Right ', the moral majority. Where are all these religous leaders on on this subject? There is a deafening silence. All I have to say is go back to your supposed piousness when you are at your sunday service and read Mathew 25:40 "The King will reply, 'I tell you the truth, whatever you did for one of the least of these brothers of mine, you did for me.'
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frank day
Obama cares about all of U.S.
12:43 PM on 10/23/2011
Jesus obeyed the law.
04:21 PM on 10/23/2011
Jesus was an undocumented migrant.

Here is an interesting point of view Frank:
http://www.urbanfaith.com/2010/05/were-all-outsiders.html/

And this one also:
http://erb.kingdomnow.org/welcoming-the-stranger-hwangsoerens/
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Patricia Shavers
05:45 PM on 10/23/2011
To be precise Jesus did break the law.

John 5:18
Therefore the Jews sought the more to kill him, because he not only had broken the sabbath, but said also that God was his Father, making himself equal with God.

Exodus 20:8
Remember THE SABBATH day, to keep it holy.
06:42 AM on 10/23/2011
Simple solution. Just call "Mentiquila", the last of the meehicans- Leopold Butters - from South Park and he will summons all the illegals back to Mexico.
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04:29 AM on 10/23/2011
State of Alabama is NOT known for its education. It ranked 47th (out of 50 states) beating Louisiana (48th), West Virginia (49th), and Mississippi (50th).

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/07/11/state-education-rankings-_n_894528.html

It's possible that the law put forth by some of the politicians and their supporters from the state of Alabama is ill conceived on the get-go. It would be amused if the state will start "import" workers from overseas say China to do some of the work that only Latinos are willing to do today. LOL.
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Patricia Shavers
05:48 PM on 10/23/2011
Too true. To keep a democracy it requires an informed citizenry.

Help!

Stuck in Alabama.
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frank day
Obama cares about all of U.S.
06:01 PM on 10/23/2011
Leave
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ANuttyReader
04:34 PM on 11/02/2011
You can always move
11:19 PM on 10/22/2011
Just one look at Jan Brewer's face says "Hate-filled bigot." Bigots often have their hate etched on their faces. Look at some of the evangelical phonies who preach hate on the TV or in person. Their faces change to show what is going on inside. I am not a Christian, would never even consider being one. Primarily I an at odds with their entire religion--NOT their people--but also because of the hate that seems to predominate virtually every church. They hate Jews because somehow they managed to kill their little god. How in the world could anyone kill the Creator of all? They hate gay people because they do not know how to read their bibles. They take everything literally when it was never meant to be read that way, but they also do not know the meaning of the word "abomination" when those words were written. They lambaste the entire LGBT community because they will not accept scientific facts. They will not ever accept that species of fish, frogs, animals of various type engage in homosexual acts. It is "normal" but their hatred is too set in their bigoted little minds that they cannot accept fact. They even ignore global warming as being caused by man who has used the atmosphere as a garbage can for everything they wish to send to the ozone layers. In the words of their bible they proclaim to be wise but are fools.
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frank day
Obama cares about all of U.S.
11:49 PM on 10/22/2011
wrong thread?
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gunrunner99
freedom of speech
12:26 PM on 10/23/2011
What is it,is this a religious debate or about illegals? Why are some of you going off about Christians, when this has nothing whatsoever to do with religion? Wrong page? What??
10:20 PM on 10/22/2011
You Can't REASON with Unbridled HATRED & RACISM...This is a Pathetic state of circumstances
brought about by the Most Reprehensible Anti-Immigrant/Anti-Latino Legislation in the Country-right
next to the Arizona SB-1070 political-morass initiated by proud RACIST-Russell Pearce...If This
'ILK' of Inhumanity were'nt such COWARDS, they would be introducing their 'Jim Crow' style legislation in their State Chambers in all their 'KKK' Hooded glory...But, THEY ARE COWARDS-and the Most BASE form of humanity...