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Rick Perry Flat Tax Plan Unveiled

KASIE HUNT and CHARLES BABINGTON   10/25/11 04:58 PM ET  AP

GRAY COURT, S.C. — Republican presidential candidate Rick Perry proposed dramatic tax and spending changes Tuesday, saying he would let Americans choose between a 20 percent flat tax and the current system, allow private Social Security accounts and slash government spending and regulation.

Perry, seeking to regain the momentum he enjoyed in late August, said his plan would significantly spur economic growth. But analysts from the left and right said he would need draconian federal budget cuts to avoid massive deficits.

In a pitch to conservatives, the Texas governor said his "Cut, Balance and Grow" plan was bolder than what his Republican rivals or President Barack Obama would do. His proposal calls for gradually increasing eligibility ages for Social Security and Medicare and for amending the Constitution to require balanced budgets.

"America is under a crushing burden of debt, and the president simply offers larger deficits and the politics of class division," Perry said in South Carolina, whose primary will follow early voting in Iowa and New Hampshire. "Others simply offer microwaved plans with warmed-over reforms based on current ingredients."

After weeks of calling Social Security a "Ponzi scheme," Perry proposed major changes to the program's funding and payouts. Benefits would not change for current and soon-to-be retirees. Eventually, however, the eligibility age would rise, and wealthier people would see reduced benefits.

Younger workers could steer some of their Social Security payroll taxes to private investment accounts, an idea President George W. Bush tried and failed to enact in 2005.

The heart of Perry's plan would reduce or eliminate an array of taxes. He would end taxes on Social Security benefits, estates, dividends and capital gains, which would most help upper-income people. He would lower the corporate income tax rate as well as the personal income tax rate for those who choose his 20 percent flat rate.

The top marginal tax rate on individual income is now 35 percent. It was 70 percent in the 1970s.

Perry's plan would let people exempt $12,500 of their income, plus $12,500 for each dependent, from taxation. He would keep popular deductions, such as those for mortgage interest, state taxes and charity gifts, for families making less than $500,000 a year.

Herman Cain was the first presidential candidate to propose a flat tax this year. He called for a 9 percent income tax rate – and no deductions for most people – along with a 9 percent sales tax.

By design, Perry's plan "must lose revenue" for the government, said Kevin Hassett, director of economic policy studies at the right-of-center American Enterprise Institute. To avoid higher deficits, Hassett said, the government would have to slash spending in ways not seen since the steep military drawdown after World War II.

Perry said federal spending is out of hand, and suggested such cuts are feasible. In the past, deep cuts have proven easier to pitch than to enact, no matter which party controls Congress and the White House.

Perry said his proposed deep cuts in tax rates and regulation would spur economic growth and thus generate significant new tax revenues. Economists and politicians have long debated the validity of such claims.

If Americans were allowed to choose between the current system and a 20 percent flat tax, several analysts said, the wealthy would get a big tax cut, and lower-income people would hardly be affected.

The Perry plan "hemorrhages revenue" for the government, said Chuck Marr, an economist at the liberal Center on Budget and Policy Priorities. "It's a massive tax cut for the richest people in the country," he said. But it would not demand higher taxes from middle- and low-income people, who would stick with the current tax code because they fare better under its progressive structure.

Those taxpayers would continue to deal with the complex tax code that Perry criticized Tuesday. They would be unable to file their returns on the postcard he waved before cameras to illustrate a flat tax's simplicity.

"Taxes will be cut across all income groups," Perry said in his 24-minute speech. "The net benefit will be more money in Americans' pockets, with greater investment in the private economy instead of the federal government."

Regarding Medicare, Perry would let Americans receive a payment or a credit for the purchase of health insurance instead of the direct benefits provided through the current program. He would gradually raise the eligibility age, and pay benefits based on people's income levels.

Perry acknowledged that many of his proposals, including the private Social Security accounts, are controversial.

"I am not naive. I know this idea will be attacked," he said. "Opposition to this simple measure is based on a simple supposition: that the people are not smart enough to look out for themselves" and invest their retirement savings prudently.

Currently, Social Security payroll taxes paid by workers go directly to today's retirees, with any surplus used for other government programs. Perry said private investment accounts would generate more money for future retirees.

Obama's campaign spokesman Ben LaBolt said Perry's economic plan "would shift a greater share of taxes away from large corporations and the wealthiest onto the backs of the middle class." Some analysts, however, said middle class taxes might be unchanged because the flat tax would be optional.

Perry seemed eager to demonstrate boldness and the ability to present a comprehensive plan on a complex issue. Distracting from his speech, however, were new comments he made questioning whether Obama was born in the United States, a debunked claim kept alive on some conservative Web sites.

In an interview with CNBC, Perry said Monday it was "fun to – to poke" at the president on the birth certificate issue. "I don't have a clue about where the president – and what this birth certificate says," Perry said. He was defending an interview he did with Parade magazine, when he said he did not have a "definitive answer" about whether Obama was born in the United States.

Republican strategist Karl Rove, speaking of Perry on Fox News, said, "You associate yourself with a nutty view like that, and you damage yourself."

Perry's policy speech Tuesday sets him to the right of chief rival Mitt Romney, who wants to make less sweeping changes to the tax code. Perry plans to air TV ads in Iowa and has hired a roster of experienced national campaign operatives to help him. Perry's chief adviser on the economic plan is former presidential candidate Steve Forbes, who proposed a 17 percent flat tax when he ran for president in 1996.

Romney released a 59-point jobs plan in early September. Romney would lower rates on corporations and on savings and investment income for middle-class Americans.

In 1996, Romney criticized Forbes' flat tax plan as a "tax cut for fat cats." In the CNBC interview, Perry said if Romney renews that criticism, "he ought to look in the mirror, I guess. I consider him to be a fat cat."

Perry chose South Carolina, where he announced he was running for president, to unveil his economic plan. The first-in-the-South primary is critical to his path to the nomination, though he has fallen in the polls here just as he has dropped nationally.

He also planned a news conference in the state capital, Columbia, and a fundraiser at the home of former South Carolina GOP chairman Katon Dawson, his top South Carolina adviser.

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Charles Babington reported from Washington.

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In the beginning of Rick Perry's political career, he was elected to the Texas House of Representatives as a Democrat in 1984. As a freshman, he joined other fiscal conservatives in the "pit bulls," named after where they sat in the lower pit of the House Appropriations Committee.

During the 1988 presidential primaries, he supported the candidacy of fellow Southern Democrat Al Gore and worked on his Texas campaign.

Perry ended up voting for George H.W. Bush that year and, in 1989, he switched parties to become a Republican.

Despite his party change, Perry has never lost an election, a record that goes back to elementary school.

Following his three terms in the Texas House. Perry was elected Texas Agriculture Commissioner in 1990 and was re-elected in 1994. His background as the son of a cotton farmer and an animal science major at Texas A&M University undoubtedly helped his campaign.

In 1998, Perry was elected as Lieutenant Governor of Texas. It was during this race that he had a falling out with GOP strategist Karl Rove which led to a reported rivalry with the George W. Bush camp.

When Bush won the presidency in 2000, Perry ascended to become governor in December 2000. He has been re-elected to the position three times since, making him the longest continually-serving governor in the nation.

Correction: An earlier version of this caption incorrectly stated that Perry was the chairman of Gore's Texas campaign.
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whywhywalt
11:02 AM on 10/27/2011
It is a good thing Perry put it on a post card now when he takes it to the bathroom his fingers won't push through.
09:29 PM on 10/26/2011
I don't think this is a true flat tax. But, I'm intrigued. I am glad someone is bringing taxation into the public discourse. We need to debate and think about whether our current progressive system has delivered what it was promised to. Here's my take on the flat tax: http://99percent-economic-revolution.blogspot.com/2011/10/liberals-can-embrace-idea-of-flat-tax.html
07:14 PM on 10/26/2011
Unless this contains his old plan to have Texas secede from the Union, I don't want to hear it.
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mataylor16
You all want it one way. But, its the other way. -
04:51 PM on 10/26/2011
It says something about the Republican party when they look around an dessicated economic landscape, colored by 15% unemployment, historically low interest rates that have done nothing for most people's most valuable asset, their homes, a massive budget deficit (which is largely a result) and have nothing better to offer than a game-show like competition of 'who can make the most regressive tax'.
wordsalad12
Caring for innocent life after they are born.
03:00 PM on 10/26/2011
attacked, analysed, debated - someone knows how to put a plan on a postcard but doesn't know the difference between words...analysis is not the same thing as an attack, unless you are so egotistical, you expect people to just take you on face value and be your bobbleheads. That is not called a democracy, Mr.Perry, its called dictatorship. How is it that the GOP honks itself hoarse on freedom and liberty and individual rights, and yet shoves things down people's throats or resents them for doing what they themselves do - parse, analyze, attack, ridicule, discredit, smear....you name it, they have it. All except maturity, or dignity, or gravitas, or substance.
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EspritDeVoltaire
K Street PR firm board member
01:40 PM on 10/26/2011
The Dude plagiarizes.
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christopherflynn
The wreligious wright is always rong...
01:55 PM on 10/26/2011
and you don't with your call name??? far better a K street PR firm board member, than a K street PR flabby bored member which, to the intelligent american, they most certainly are...anything to do with K street....
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EspritDeVoltaire
K Street PR firm board member
01:59 PM on 10/26/2011
Put your head between your knees, breathe deeply and then look up plagiarize in a free online dictionary.
wordsalad12
Caring for innocent life after they are born.
03:07 PM on 10/26/2011
btw, i like your ideas, so no offence. But i just had a heard time understanding what you mean. Fanned anyway.
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grammasher
01:33 PM on 10/26/2011
"He would end taxes on Social Security benefits, estates, dividends and capital gains, which would most help upper-income people."
I don't understand this. Why are these income sources exempt from taxation? Income is income regardless of where it comes from. I earn money from work, from dividends, and from capital gains. It makes no sense to me that the money I earn from actual work should be taxed while money I earn because it sits in stocks isn't taxed.
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omobob
left coast, usa
01:11 PM on 10/26/2011
> If Americans were allowed to choose between the current system and a 20 percent flat tax, several analysts said, the wealthy would get a big tax cut, and lower-income people would hardly be affected.

The Perry plan "hemorrhages revenue" for the government, said Chuck Marr, an economist at the liberal Center on Budget and Policy Priorities. "It's a massive tax cut for the richest people in the country," he said. But it would not demand higher taxes from middle- and low-income people, who would stick with the current tax code because they fare better under its progressive structure.

Pay no attention to the rodeo clown behind the curtain. Gov Perry flaunts the fact that he does not care what happens to Americans who are NOT weal;thy. But then so do the rest of the t.p. republicans like Cain who can not understand why every American is not a millionaire. clueless and dangerous political morons.
12:47 PM on 10/26/2011
I see Perry move dramatically up in the polls, mostly because his message to the american people will become more and more understandable whereby the people will have the option to decide for themselves what to do, as opposed to our government who beem making decisions for us. Certainlly his plans for changing the direction we are on, will be quesitoned by the left as a fanatical, but all he is doing is stopping the government from spending and cutting the deficit so that we can get back to fisical responsibility. Whether this will gain any ground will depend only if the republicans take the house and senate to approve such a measure, if demo's remain in control of the senate......we are in big trouble
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ThePhotogsBlog
Confusing Baggers with facts.
12:45 PM on 10/26/2011
Naive, no. Absurd....definitely!
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mjtaylor22
11:52 AM on 10/26/2011
so he also wants to raise taxes on the middle class in order to give more corpoprate tax breaks........
some one said he want to raise taxes on 76% of americans...I think it is more like raise taxes on 95% of americans to the top 5% can get a tax break..............GTFOOH
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Judann
At a loss for words
10:51 AM on 10/26/2011
As Cain said, some people need to learn to take a joke. This applies not only to electrified fences, but to Cain, Perry and both their tax plans. Folks, we have been had by a couple of jokesters.
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rhd21
10:31 AM on 10/26/2011
I just don't know how Perry can claim that "private investment accounts would generate more money for future retirees." Is he willing to back that up with a government guarantee?

The stock market goes up; the stock market goes down. Same with bonds, real estate, precious metals, commodities. You name it. All investment vehicles are subject to market forces that no one can fully understand or control, even the pros.

This is not your father's investment market. It's no longer about the efficient allocation of capital to emerging/developing companies with bright futures. Add in investment costs and fees over the years and a downturn just as your ready to retire and you could be SOL.
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chefacree
10:18 AM on 10/26/2011
Think of all the jobs this would lose. H&R Block etc. Another job killing plan by the wingnut party.
10:03 AM on 10/26/2011
So the flat tax is optional. But then I need to do my taxes twice. Once the old way and once the new way to see which one gives me the lower tax. This is your idea of more simple?
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rgilley
Question Authority!
10:29 AM on 10/26/2011
A simpleton cannot create simple he can only follow simple. He is being told what to say what to do what eat how to hold his head....this guy is the perfect Republican candidate he is for ssale to the highest bidder and has no moral compass. It must be a texas govenors trait eh?

"If crony capitalism describes a situation where contracts are won by private companies who've hired close associates of the governor, then Texas records show the charge could stick. The pay-to-play allegations against Perry have become an Austin cliche."
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/09/16/texas-governor-rick-perry-staffers-lobbyists_n_966072.html

"So long as tax cuts for the rich triumph over great schools for our children, or budget cuts at TXDOT beat good roads for business, our great state, and more importantly our proud, resilient people will continue our sad slide down last. Government is us doing our best—not the enemy. Democracy is by and for people, not the wealthy few. And we here in Texas deserve better. Our children, our community and our future are worth the fight—let’s resolve now to find the leaders who will take us to the top."

Rick Perry's Hellfire: The GOP Candidate Continues to Deny the Climate Change Linked to the Fires Consuming His State
http://www.alternet.org/story/152590/rick_perry%27s_hellfire%3A_the_gop_candidate_continues_to_deny_the_climate_change_linked_to_the_fires_consuming_his_state/