Cornell, Stanford Vie For Tech Campus In NYC

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First Posted: 10/26/11 06:58 PM ET Updated: 10/26/11 08:34 PM ET

Mayor Michael Bloomberg is on a mission to oust Silicon Valley as the world's technology breeding ground and usher in a golden age of growth in New York City. His plan: offer up to $100 million and the use of city land to an academic institution charged with bolstering the city's tech sector.

This investment would fund the creation or expansion of a "world-class" academic and research institution that would in turn stimulate job growth and tax revenue for the city.

The New York City Economic Development Corporation began soliciting submissions for the grant competition in July after 27 institutions worldwide expressed interest in the competition. On October 28, all universities that wish to be considered for the grant will submit their proposals, and the university with the plan to generate the most rigorous economic growth for the city will be given the grant. A decision will likely be made in 2012, a mayoral spokesman told Bloomberg News.

The amount of grant money awarded, which will come out of the city's capital budget, will be determined by how much the institutions are looking for.

"A criterion will be what they are asking from us," Seth Pinsky, president of New York City Economic Development Corporation, told The Huffington Post. "The less they ask from us, the more desirable their proposal is."

The money should be seen as a seed investment, not a blank check written to the university with the winning bid, Pinsky said. The city expects money from the private sector to simultaneously fund the project.

Early on in the process, Cornell University hired a lobbyist and a public relations firm to help secure its bid for a campus on New York's Roosevelt Island. The Ithaca-based university, which already has its medical campus in New York City, announced on October 18 that it will team up with The Technion-Israel Institute of Technology in its bid.

Going head to head with Cornell for land and grant money is Stanford University, which helped put Silicon Valley on the map.

"We know how to get young people involved in start-ups," Stanford's president John L. Hennessy told The New York Times. "Cornell's disadvantage is all its start-ups put together are smaller than Google."

On October 11, Stanford announced that it will collaborate with the City University of New York and the City College of New York on its proposal.

Columbia University and New York University have also expressed interest in expanding their campuses using Bloomberg's proposed funds, while Carnegie Mellon University is proposing to build a campus at the Brooklyn Navy Yard.

"This is not the first time that government has offered land and funding in exchange for university development," Bloomberg acknowledged on July 19 at Crain's Future of New York City conference.

The mayor likened his plan to the Morrill Land-Grant Act, which paved the way for the founding of universities such as Cornell, Massachusetts Institute of Technology, the University of California at Berkley and Michigan State University. He also mentioned initiatives through which governments across the globe pay American universities to build and operate higher education institutions on foreign soil.

Pinsky acknowledged that while foreign governments in places like Education City in Qatar often pick up the tab for both construction and operating costs of American universities abroad, New York City will not be covering post-construction costs for the institutions that win the bid; the universities will be expected to pay their own operating expenses.

"We expect the universities to put in many more times what we're putting in," Pinsky told HuffPost.

While Silicon Valley leads as the nation's top city for number of venture capital deals and investments, New York City outranked Boston in the number of deals secured for the first time in 2010.

"During the 1980s and '90s, Silicon Valley -- not New York -- became the world capital of technology start-ups," Bloomberg said at Crain's. "And that is still true today. But if I am right -- and if we succeed in this mission -- it won't be true forever."

In May 2010, The Bloomberg Administration also established the $22 million NYC Entrepreneurial Fund to help seed-stage companies get off the ground in New York.

CORRECTION: This article originally incorrectly identified one of the Land-Grant Act universities as the University of Michigan. It has been corrected to Michigan State University.
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12:31 AM on 12/12/2011
also Ithaca is not a hot bed for start up activity.. so anyone thinking that Cornell is gonna work some magic when it can't even generate start ups in its own backyard is delusional
01:26 AM on 12/20/2011
Ithaca is not - but there plenty of Cornell alumni who have started or run companies in the NYC area... and Cornell's partner is Technion of Israel... which in terms of strictly tech start-ups is #2 in the world "pound for pound" after Stanford.
12:28 AM on 12/12/2011
i'll say it again.. Cornell ain't gonna cut it. It does not have the cache or prestige of Stanford's graduate programs. Stanford will be the better bet to make this work and put NYC on the map for start ups...
05:47 PM on 10/27/2011
Stanford's student body and faculty have expressed opposition to Stanford's involvement in this initiative. Cornell's students and faculty support this idea.

The notion that the Stanford community is unified in support of this plan is a complete fallacy!!!
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01:01 PM on 10/27/2011
Overall, I think the mayor has a great idea. The NYC/Long Island area would definitely benefit from a world class incubator for technology. However, my concern regarding this project is the impact that it will have on Roosevelt Island. Our mayor, at times, seems only concerned with his beloved Manhattan. He's changed it in ways that a lot of New Yorkers, including me, who voted for him, don't agree with (Time's Sq. a pedestrian mall?!). Roosevelt Island is not Manhattan. It's a tiny, safe, quiet island that straddles the boroughs of Queens and Manhattan and is home to mostly middle-income families with young children and older adults. There's one, elementary school, one middle school and no high school and the islanders like it that way. So for my friends and family who live there, their concerns are: Will the rents now skyrocket? Will the people who've lived there for years, suddenly be forced off the island by all this high-end progress? Will the crime rate go up in a neighborhood where most of the police officers know the children by their first names? It sounds like a great idea, in theory, but maybe, it's not the best one for such a small island.
12:27 PM on 10/27/2011
Yep. Build massively reflective buildings to blind the pilots flying into the 3 major airports.
09:01 AM on 10/27/2011
Mayor Bloomberg should be looking to innovate not imitate. SV may lead in technology innovation now, but NYC should be looking to establish a new paradigm. The Cornell/Technion collaboration is an ideal partnership in this sense. It's global, and yet NY-centric at the same time.
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08:56 AM on 10/27/2011
Maybe they can move the campus to China and cut out the middlemen?
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08:41 AM on 10/27/2011
They are building that huge fab in upstate NY. Global Foundries. Maybe NY has the engineers and skilled craftsmen that those industries require.
01:28 AM on 12/20/2011
I thought the same exact thing... and that is more reason why there should be a direct rail link that they've talked about between NYC and Albany. Having the Nanocenter in Albany and all the chip companies researching there is a natural link with the NYC tech start-up community.
04:14 AM on 10/27/2011
NYC has a chance if they do it right. NY and NYC is at the epicenter of the world when it comes to finance, media, fashion, technology, attracting the world's best and brightest...we also have some of the best world class beaches, the best most diverse food in the world and temperate climate (no earthquakes, tornadoes, floods, droughts, electricity problems, water problems, etc.,)...it can be done if planned and shepharded correctly...
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11:26 PM on 10/26/2011
Finance as an industry is building down...getting more dispersed.

Good move on NYC's part.
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10:54 PM on 10/26/2011
Cornell?????
01:50 AM on 10/27/2011
Why not Cornell? They have top-ranked programs in every relevant field to the tech industry, a massive alumni base in NYC, are the land-grant university for New York, already operate a large satellite campus in Manhattan that they're currently expanding with a billion dollar project, and seem to have come up with a pretty stellar campus design.
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09:28 PM on 10/26/2011
Won't happen.

There are many intangibles that made SV what it is, that would be difficult to emulate.
It's not only about the technology but an organic buzz, not always about the money, that began in the late 60's, fueled by Stanford/Berkley, SRI, PARC, DARPA/ARPA and the individual researchers behind it who formed a "community feel".

Add to that, a region of the country who's climate, beauty, coastal proximity, lifestyle and cultural diversity, collectively would be difficult to surpass.
01:52 AM on 10/27/2011
Well, Israel has the most tech start-ups behind SV and I don't think anyone would label that a paradise. NYC seems to have no problem attracting talented people on its own merits, while SV is a suburban-style setting that doesn't have the urban fabric to foster integration of ideas and disciplines. That's more the anomaly in the grand scheme of things than NYC.
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helioszephyr
What do you mean by "micro"?!
03:50 AM on 10/27/2011
Israel doesn't have many choices for diverse geographical locations if it wants to keep it home grown, by default.

Not all of SV is suburban.
Doesn't have the Urban fabric? What do you call San Fran?
Ideas? Surely you jest. Aside from technology, SF has been the epicenter of ideological social changes and developments more than any other location on the planet.

Don't get me wrong, I like NY and it has lots to offer, but it's a bit more "in the box" than the Bay Area.
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helioszephyr
What do you mean by "micro"?!
04:26 AM on 10/28/2011
I love NY! One of the most amazing places on the planet. There's certain business/cultural/educational attributes that it's second to none. Any one, or two, of these may be arguable, but when considering all that I initially mentioned, it would be very difficult to overcome SV/Bay Area. It's been tried not only in different locations in the US, but globally. It's not just about throwing money at it... Japan/China is certainly capable of doing that.

Examples of the large players, never mind hundreds ofsmall/medium sized ones...
Media: Pixar, LucasFilm, media & related tech innovators.
BioMed: Genentech, pharmaceutical and related electronics/software
Oracle, Intel, AMD, Google, FB, Apple, HP, Lockheed Martin, military research complex, list is very long.
Most have sprawling campuses, not just offices spaces, but research facilities... difficult to replicate in NYC proper, cost issues relative to real estate dynamics.

Coupled with, Stanford/SRI/PARC/Berkley, naming just a few institutions. Longest, one of the most important experiments based at Stanford, Gravity Probe.

Stanford is so culturally diversified. The Bay Area is anything but homogenous.

And the intangible sense of the tech/discovery "community" that had its roots in the 60's and still thrives today. It's not just about throwing money at it. One has to live there, be in the industry, to get a full sense of its depth and breadth. As when describing NY, difficult to explain to non-residents/non-NY biz people the depth and breadth of NY.
11:48 AM on 10/27/2011
I'm sorry, but intra-country movement and tourism figures show Manhattan to be a far superior place and to have far more appeal worldwide than Silicon Valley. Manhattan is far more popular than San Francisco too, but that's off topic San Francisco is not Silicon Valley.
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helioszephyr
What do you mean by "micro"?!
03:25 PM on 10/27/2011
So why then, are the majority of the tech firms, as a concentration, based in SV?
This isn't concerning "tourism" or general "intra-country" movement. It's concerning, specifically, tech.

SV, over the years, has basically expanded between SF and SJ.
09:13 PM on 10/26/2011
with cross fertilization of Silicon Valley money and expertise together with Stanford's elite graduate programs... Stanford would be the better bet to take this to the next level. Cornell isn't going to cut it.
01:56 AM on 10/27/2011
Head to head in a vacuum, you'd be correct. Given that Stanford has no east coast presence and Cornell's alumni and many of its programs are based in NYC, that many of the Stanford grads would head west once they got their degrees, and that Cornell's partnered with the Technion to fill in its shortcomings with regard to tech transfer, I'd say both schools could make it successful.
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09:04 PM on 10/26/2011
New York apparently suffers from delusions of grandeur. New York should set an interim, more realistic goal, like becoming equal to Arkansas or Utah. Later, they can set their sights on the upper tier, and later maybe even the grand prize.
11:40 AM on 10/27/2011
....yet Manhattan is insanely more popular than the "warm" Silicon Valley (suburban sprawl hell)
....and draws far more visitors
....and draws far more new residents
....and has far higher property values

I wonder why?

So many questions, not enough answers.
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11:55 AM on 10/27/2011
Again, it is a mistake to worry now about Central California, which is way out of NYC's league. I bet you can make a very compelling case comparing "The City" with Hot Springs or Salt Lake City. Give that a try.

One must walk before one can run.
09:03 PM on 10/26/2011
Let's see... Cold cruel nasty winters versus warm beutiful weather year round. Gee I don't know where to go for my degree.