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Occupy Wall Street: Not Here To Destroy Capitalism, But To Remind Us Who Saved It

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First Posted: 10/27/11 05:40 PM ET Updated: 10/27/11 05:40 PM ET

Over at The New York Times, Nicholas Kristof has enunciated an excellent defense of the Occupy Wall Street demonstrators, aimed at dispelling the notion that the Occupiers are some single-minded mass movement targeting the capitalist system for destruction. In fact, Kristof says, "while alarmists seem to think that the movement is a 'mob' trying to overthrow capitalism, one can make a case that, on the contrary, it highlights the need to restore basic capitalist principles like accountability."

Kristof says that what Occupy Wall Street represents is "a chance to save capitalism from crony capitalists" and an entrenched system of "government-backed featherbed[ding]" that amounts to "socialism for tycoons and capitalism for the rest of us." As Kristof notes, he's seen this before: Years of covering the '90s-era Asian financial crisis brought Kristof face-to-face with the same critique. It's now unspooling in the United States and having its own deleterious effects, such as the near-intractable income inequality that was, at long last, reported on fully this week (perhaps thanks to the presence of the Occupiers themselves).

Kristof's right to suggest that the Occupiers aren't "half-naked Communists aiming to bring down the American economic system." This isn't the "Project Mayhem" of Chuck Palahniuk novels -- we're talking about a movement that's spurring people to move their money from "too big to fail" banks into credit unions. That's not exactly "smash the system." That's more like a group of people seeking out a means to maximize their power within the system, or using consumer choice to preserve, enhance and improve the best parts of the system. As Matt Taibbi notes in a fitting companion piece to Kristof's, "These people aren't protesting money. They're not protesting banking. They're protesting corruption on Wall Street."

Taibbi calls them "cheaters," Kristof calls them "cronies," but the concept of "corruption" is intrinsic to both critiques. In fact, one could well argue that the truest evidence of Wall Street corruption is the fact that prior to the economic collapse, what Wall Street was practicing wasn't really "capitalism" at all.

And here, Kristof absolutely nails it:

Capitalism is so successful an economic system partly because of an internal discipline that allows for loss and even bankruptcy. It's the possibility of failure that creates the opportunity for triumph. Yet many of America's major banks are too big to fail, so they can privatize profits while socializing risk.

Way back when Julie Satow and I were attempting to explain the role the credit derivatives and AIG played in destroying our future, there was one question that resonated with me: What happened to that elementary ingredient of capitalism known as risk? If you want to tell the story of what was going on prior to September of 2008 in one sentence, here you go: Wall Street came to believe that they had finally figured out how to rid themselves of risk -- that "possibility of failure" -- entirely, and thus outsmart capitalism. (Calvin Trillin puts this more artfully than I ever could, here.) Firm in that belief, they bet and they hedged and they overleveraged themselves to the point of pure abuse.

But as we all saw in the fall of 2008, the risk never went away. Rather, it was lying in wait to provide us with a dramatic demonstration of the folly of forgetting about risk. It was very quickly revealed that the pure product of Wall Street's easy-money casino game was actually a coiled-up cock-up cobra ready to bite the global economy in the face, and when it bit, it plunged the global economic system to the brink of calamity.

There are a lot of ways to tell the story about how the world was saved, but the Occupy Wall Street is starting to remind the world of one narrative in particular. When everything seemed ready to collapse, there was one group of people left in this world who had enough cred on the street to save the day -- the American taxpayers. They were the only people left in whom anyone would put their full faith and credit as a sure thing. And it's easy to see why, seeing as they had built the greatest nation on earth out of their combined blood, sweat and tears.

It was the American taxpayers who went to war, on everyone's behalf, with that dread cobra, and they sacrificed $4.7 trillion of their own money to bring everyone back from the brink. That's $4.7 trillion that the American taxpayer willingly parted with, money that could have been put to any other priority. There's still about a trillion and half that hasn't even been returned -- but that's not where our focus should be. Our focus should be on the other scars left by that sacrifice. A massive unemployment crisis, people being kicked out of their homes, college graduates leaving their institutions of higher learning without a clear grasp on a future and saddled with debt (because that's what they were told to do to get ahead in this world) -- that's where our focus should have been, but wasn't, until those folks started gathering in the streets.

Three years later, if you even allude to that sacrifice, you still elicit from all sides the cry of "class warfare." And I'll admit, it's a pretty seductive metaphor. Not long ago, my counter to that charge was to point out that the Occupiers were an encampment of casualties and refugees from the last class war. But I've since realized that while this is a good, glib line, the politics are too convenient. In reality, the people of Occupy Wall Street are the people who fought the last war on everyone's behalf. They are a neglected band of veterans from the Battle To Save The Global Economy. They're attempting to remind America that we all fought on the same side.

And, yes, as Kristof suggests, they are asking for accountability. From cronies, from cheaters -- if you really want to know who owes us accountability, go ahead and read this "Cheat Sheet" from ProPublica. All the devils are there.

Naturally, the Wall Street gentry want to get back to the old way of doing business, and they're calling for further deregulation and less oversight of their activities. They scoff at the notion that our bailout of their failure requires them to return to making productive investments in their saviors' futures. And they flaunt the fact that they've reneged on the social contract, using our bailout money to procure an army of lobbyists to return things to the status quo ante.

Three years on, Wall Street still believes they're smart enough to beat capitalism. But they should really stroll down to Zuccotti Park and take stock of the weakened and demoralized army that won't be strong enough to rescue them when they fuck up again.

READ THE WHOLE THING:
Crony Capitalism Comes Home [Nick Kristof @ New York Times]
Wall Street Isn't Winning -- It's Cheating [Taibblog]
Cheat Sheet: What's Happened to the Big Players in the Financial Crisis [ProPublica]

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Over at The New York Times, Nicholas Kristof has enunciated an excellent defense of the Occupy Wall Street demonstrators, aimed at dispelling the notion that the Occupiers are some single-minded mass ...
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UnknownSolider 10:36 PM on 10/27/2011
The protestors need to continue to hammer home that this Wall Street crowd does not play by rules and are in effect criminals, and politicians taking money and endorsements from them should be painted with the same brush. More arrest with the Occupy crowd than there where with the BP oil rig explosion that k i l l e d 11 innocent people. More arrest with the Occupy crowd than there were with the illegal  Read More...
07:15 AM on 12/01/2011
I would like for the author of the above piece to explain to me how sitting around doing nothing for months, whilst wailing "woe is me", instead of looking for a job, while your fellow Americans actually go out and work hard and sacrifice to provide for their families can be defined as wanting to hold others "accountable". Give me a break. Sorry, but the last person qualified to hold anyone accountable is the Women's Studies or Gender Studies major who has been sitting around doing nothing for two months yet is still perplexed as to why he can't get a job, as if finding meaningful work doesn't involve having marketable skills and the actual physical act of looking for work rather than sitting in a tent, interrupted by the periodic shouting of anti-semitic slogans, for two months.

And comparing these selfish "someone needs to pay our student loans" whiners whose only sacrifice in life is not buying that new pair of Birkenstocks they really wanted to war casualties is as insulting as comparing protesters upset that public unions actually have to contribute more than 0% for the cost of their health care plans, to Martin Luther King Jr.
06:35 AM on 12/01/2011
Sorry, but the sheer volume of anti-capitalist and more disturbingly, anti-semitic posters and pronouncements at these rallies has reached the point that one can no longer credibly claim that the Occupy Wall St. movement is not populated by anti-capitalist bigots.
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Gigi Jacobs
Devloper, small business owner, although recent st
03:42 AM on 12/02/2011
Yep, if anti-capitalist refers to pigs like you, then yes, this small business owner would like to denounce you.
06:33 AM on 12/01/2011
Yeah, sure OccupyWallSt doesn't want to destroy capitalism. Well if one goes to the Occupy Wall St. website, clicks on the "Who We Are" tab, one will find a link, about halfway down the page, that can be followed by clicking on the phrase "open source project. One will be taken to this page:
https://github.com/jart/occupywallst/

And wouldn't you know it, at the top of that page it reads "Destroying Capitalism one word of code at a time". When one clicks on the 'Read more" link nex to that lovely sentence one will see that it was authored by, wait for it, those who run the Occupy Wall St. website.

Reading the articles and the comments by those on this site reveals a hypocrisy so profound it is almost incomprehensible. For two years, the left, and those on this site particularly, have been telling us how evil, racist and violent the Tea Party movement is, with essentially no evidence to back it but a few signs in a crowd. Yet when a movement with anti-semitism, anti-capitalism and increasing exhortations to violence as features, not a bugs, pops up, we get supposedly objective journalists, left-wing bloggers and commenters claiming that these people are not exactly what the people themselves are now claiming they are. There is a reason most new polls have shown the approval for these lazy, entitled, unshowered lo sers has tanked. The media could no longer hide who these people really are.
06:00 AM on 12/01/2011
Hahahaahahahahahaha, the notion that a group of people who want others to pay their student loans while they sit around in tents for months instead of looking for jobs are just demanding "accountability" is beyond hilarious. Everything they have said and done is the exact oppostie of demanding "accountability". Moreover, comparing these lazy, self-entitled neohippies to war casualties is an absolute disgrace.

Oh, and by the way, OccupyWallStreet's OFFICIAL website now lists as one of its goals the following:
" Stomping out capitalism one line of code at a time".

Seems that all of the so-called jouralists who have been defending these socialist anti-semites need to start eating crow.
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Gigi Jacobs
Devloper, small business owner, although recent st
03:48 AM on 12/02/2011
No, but we have some crow prepared for you.

I'd make a more intelligent comment, but someone like you wouldn't understand.

So, I won't waste my time.
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snowballinhell
Humans have a 100% chance of extinction
04:16 AM on 12/02/2011
You go, Gigi!
12:53 AM on 11/03/2011
OWS needs to get active, organize, register and Vote in people that will help get corporate money out of politics. Corporations are not people.
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cornel
wuf wuf
08:54 AM on 11/04/2011
You can start by adding your signature -> http://www.getmoneyout.com/
06:53 AM on 12/01/2011
The Corporations are not people mantra is absolutely laughable. According to the laws of this land the following organizations are considered corporations: the ACLU, the NRA, The Brady Campaign, The Sierra Club, The Club for Growth, Emily's List, Operation Rescue, Planned Parenthood, Moveon.org, Americans for Tax Reform. I have included groups on both the left and right. According to the geniuses who try to caricature every corporation as being no different than ExxonMobil, the aforementioned corporations that I list consisting of individuals banding together to advocate for particular policy goals don't have First Amendment rights and shouldn't be able to spend money on political advertising to spread their message.

And if one claims that I am wrong about classifying those above groups as corporations, all you have to do is visit their websites. For instance, the following is taken from the Sierra Club Website; the emphasis is mine:
"The Club, INCORPORATED in the State of California as a Nonprofit Public Benefit
CORPORATION, is the only legally recognized CORPORATE entity of the Club in the
United States.

So in other words, liberty lovers (yeah, I am being really, really sarcastic) like the one to whom I am responding think First Amendment protections, as he is obviously referring to the Citizens United ruling, don't extend to groups of like-minded citizens advocating for particular political policies, such as the Sierra Club. Seems those who comment here aren't really ones for erring on the side of freedom.
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Gigi Jacobs
Devloper, small business owner, although recent st
04:08 AM on 12/02/2011
Ah stupid masanf, you can't read or understand either. See, these are laws of the land. And laws change all the time. They are not rules in the universe like gravity or the big string theory. They are man made. .and as such they can be man un-made too.

But you are to very daft to understand. No, I can't think of one job you could even handle. Not even reading a general flyer on a bulletin board. What a waste you are to the people and the people are now getting sick of you.

Take a good look at those tents...cause we've got one waiting for you!
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Gigi Jacobs
Devloper, small business owner, although recent st
01:21 AM on 10/31/2011
I'm a capitalist-so to speak. But what we practice here in the US has nothing to do with capitalism. The next time you hear someone say "remove regulations and rules" so that we can make money and hire people-you're looking at a liar.

I've owned businesses for over 30 years. I've found maybe 4 other businesses that did the right thing, that made a good product, that paid their people well, and did so without destroying the environment. 4? That's it. 4!

I have never even run into a regulation that prevented me from doing business. For regulations are the rules that keep the greedy out of capitalism. They say over 70% of the population would steal if not caught. So, how can we have capitalism without rules to oversee this 70%? You can't.

No rules, no regulation-then what we have is pure theft and nothing more. I make good products and follow all the rules first before I make one penny. But that is not the norm. Stealing is the norm. And capitalism without rules breeds THEFT and nothing more!

Gigi Jacobs
True Entrepreneur and not a fan of capitalism-which without rules-BREEDS THIEVES.
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cornel
wuf wuf
08:56 AM on 11/04/2011
When I think capitalist, I see Milton Snavely Hershey not John D. Rockefeller ! Wuf
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Gigi Jacobs
Devloper, small business owner, although recent st
03:21 PM on 11/04/2011
I'm not sure what makes the difference for you. I know that Milton made chocolate and Rockefeller -the oil industry. Both were philanthropic men in their own ways.

One can be a capitalist and still be a good person. It's just unfortunately not the norm.

By the very nature of making a lot of money, it makes one susceptible to cheating. Now, remember, I said "susceptible". So, one might be teased into paying their thousand employees less than they should-it would make more money. Or one could skimp on the ingredients used for their product, etc.

But it does not mean everyone will do these things. Why even your typical small business will do things unscrupulous in order to make money.

But it's not the money that's the problem -it's the person inside. A good person with money will still be a good person. And that's great if someone comes upon an idea that makes billions.

All we ever wanted was someone to make their money honestly. Make a good product. Pay your staff well. Don't ruin the environment. And the balance is yours.

Do you realize that the wealthy pay 15% in tax? The corporations pay5%-if they pay anything at all? And this is not cheating or using "off shore" tricks. It's the actual tax rate after deductions. I just think everyone should pay the same-and that's got to be a bit more than 5%....
06:07 AM on 12/01/2011
Hey, I have an idea,. Why don' t you get back to me when you can find one businessman or politician who is calling for, as you put it, "NO rules, NO regulation" (emphasis mine). I won't be holding my breath. I love how in the mind of those on the left, a call for a decrease in onerous regulations that are obviously deleterious to businesses, despite your laughable claims, turns into "they want no rules and no regulations, at all". But hey, since you own a business, what you say is obviously gospel, regardless of the multitudes of small, and large, business owners, who have stated that the record number of regulations put into effect by the administration of the worst president of all time are killing their businesses.
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Gigi Jacobs
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05:05 AM on 12/05/2011
Ah, that's too bad you won't be holding your breath-I'm sure it take a good hour or tow to rally some logical people and in that time we won't be bothered by you anymore!
10:36 PM on 10/29/2011
From Adam Smith, The Wealth of Nations

"Our merchants and master-manufacturers complain much of the bad effects of high wages in raising the price, and thereby lessening the sale of their goods both at home and abroad. They say nothing concerning the bad effects of high profits. They are silent with regard to the pernicious effects of their own gains. They complain only of those of other people."
page 117

"People of the same trade seldom meet together, even for merriment and diversion, but the conversation ends in a conspiracy against the public, or in some contrivance to raise prices."
page 152

Thus it ever was.
05:38 PM on 10/29/2011
You like Nick Kristof & the rest of the milquetoast boogie liberals just don't get it. It's not about saving Crapitalism. It's about Revolution. Utter & complete & permanent transformation by any means necessary. We want to end this corrupt inefficient incompetent self-destructive system. Yes. Stalinism failed. So did Market Crapitalism. And so may all systems of oppression & exploitation. Look at America's true history & stop deluding yourself. Get out into the street yourself &/or send your next paycheck to Pacifiica Radio or some other good cause.
06:57 AM on 12/01/2011
Sorry, but anyone who tries to draw a moral equivalence between stalinism and market capitalism is too silly to bother with.
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Gigi Jacobs
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04:10 AM on 12/02/2011
Yes, not you're getting it. It's too silly to bother with you.
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Sixtracks
Pleased to Meet Me
03:35 PM on 10/29/2011
Unless we control Capitalism, it WILL control us.
11:01 AM on 10/29/2011
Just a minute here. What does Kristof mean about capitalism being "so successful"? From where I stand it looks like an enormous failure to me. We're living in a world of massive misery. No need to bore you with the details. We are drowning in capitalism's failures. If OWS is trying to save capitalism, that's where I part company. I see OWS as a wonderful educational opportunity, and what it will teach us in the end is that capitalism, or moneyism, cannot be saved, and that the very concept of money itself cannot be saved as it is finally understood to be the most lethal concept ever coughed up by the human imagination. ()>)(
04:49 PM on 10/29/2011
What the hell is wrong with you? What? have no money yourself bunky?
12:34 PM on 10/31/2011
Capitalism helps to disperse resources as needed to where they are needed ('invisible hand'); if we consider for a moment what that means, I think the answer becomes clear. With the proper distribution of resources, people have less difficulty attaining what they need to survive (I'm speaking in generalities like food, clothing, etc.), which then frees up time. With more free time, people begin to take on interests that add to quality of life; they create, explore, converse, write, etc.So, with all this new free time and all this creating going on, the standard and quality of life increases for everyone, because everyone benefits from the creation's of others.

Capitalism also calls for an educated public; and with the spread of public education, the world becomes a cleaner, healthier place. We (with the help of capitalism) have risen above the old fact of the bourgeois as being the only recipients of education; now anybody can have access to education. No more serfdom, no more illiteracy, the means for attaining intelligence are now in the hands of the common people, not the rich-elite.

Don't discount capitalism because you don't understand it; discount unbridled capitalism that takes advantage...there is a difference and those differences are what our government is meant to protect us from. Unfortunately, big business, crony capitalism, elitism, have seeped into our political corners....
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Gigi Jacobs
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05:26 AM on 12/05/2011
You've forgotten one thing. It's not capitalism that brings education to all. It's not capitalism that improves the quality of life. It's not capitalism that brings innovation to our society.

And I'll prove it to you. Because I have a system much better. For you see, the one thing you left out, is that cronyism comes from greedy people who's brains have not evolved to accept empathy and the concept of society. And no matter how much you try, those greedy still remain. And unless you have a way of annailiting them all, then I'm afraid no matter what you may do, they'll be back again and again.
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GoogleAlphaPublishing
nothing, nobody, not a representative
09:35 AM on 10/29/2011
The marginalization a lot of the occupiers are protesting speaks to a baseness or ignobility. Keep thinking about that. Intentionally root out ignoble thinking. Look for the most ignoble thinking you can find or imagine. This is the root of your problem. Give it zero support. The marginalization will disappear.
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Gigi Jacobs
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05:29 AM on 12/05/2011
The only problem with that is that ignoble thinking is a result of one's capacity for empathy and that's determined at birth. one born with greed and ignoble, will remain so for the rest of his life.
03:26 AM on 10/29/2011
sorry censors, posted this in the wrong place, this is where it belongs...

great essay

little correction:
socialism for tycoons and a SHAKEDOWN for the rest of us

(little correction which all of us who have been awake for the last 30 years will get)
Star2000dancer
Pay it forward, the movie..
06:54 PM on 10/28/2011
Joe Pesci in "With honors". A homeless guy teaches students at Harvard some big lessons.
Star2000dancer
Pay it forward, the movie..
06:20 PM on 10/28/2011
I wish I knew how to save things right.

One poster had said it in a nutshell. I agreed, thought I'd remember it, then went on.

It had to do with the pattern the very, very old wealth has always used on serfs. It goes back way before that.

The a pattern always works, so they keep on using it,the masses get caught up in it.

The only thing I could do was to stop lcontroling my pattern. I went back to what I'd learned from Great depression. Get your money out of Banks. Do not use credit. If necessary, keep one charge cardl. Pay it up every month . Be beholden to no one.

Barter and trade, keep cash or gold & silver grow and make as much food as possible. Use the old healing methods we used then. Soda Pop was originally medicine. Live nears trees and foliage, use water filters and a meter to measure how pure the water is.

Get a way to cook inside, outside, or on the run. I must learn how to can again. Live below my means, not above. Get all negative out of life, even if one had to be alone. Do what I KNOW is right, not what anyone says is right.

Always use the Golden Rule, look for the silver lining, and Pay it Forwars every chance you get.

Those are a few of the answers I have to "What can we do today to change things?

Good Luck!
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Moxo
Our enemies are in the GOP.
03:41 PM on 10/28/2011
Considering you don't scream about the human rights abuses you comment is completely disingenuous! Nor do you scream about the mess the current crop of Republicans have made to the livelihood of We The People.

posted Oct 27, 2011 at 21:29:20 Reply Link

2Patriotic4U Don't you mean "We the Parasites"?

posted Oct 27, 2011 at 22:34:11
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"We The parasites"? You talking about those millions of WW2 vets who were given higher education under the GI Bill?

Shame on you.