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Private College Students Arrive At Zuccotti Park To Air Complaints

First Posted: 10/28/2011 5:02 pm Updated: 12/28/2011 4:12 am

NEW YORK -- Since graduating from Ithaca College in May, Nathan Grant has searched high and low for steady work.

After spending the summer renting kayaks at a local campground, Grant moved back in with his parents in Little Egg Harbor, N.J.

In mid-September, Grant first read about Occupy Wall Street online. He said he felt a deep connection to the movement early on, motivated to join it not only because of his struggle to find a job, but also because of the $90,000 in student loan debt that now hangs like an albatross around his neck.

A little over a week ago, Grant, 22, moved into lower Manhattan's Zuccotti Park. He has yet to return home.

"I got a degree so I wouldn't be in this position," said Grant, who has worn the same gray beanie and gray hoodie all week long. His student loans are currently in deferment, though interest continues to accrue. "Like a lot of the people now living in this park, I've had the toughest time finding work."

Private college students and recent graduates living in the New York area have gravitated toward Zuccotti Park to join a community where they feel comfortable airing their frustrations and making their demands known.

For students attending private colleges, fears about being able to finance their costly degrees are a particular burden. An annual study released earlier this week by the College Board found that average costs at private colleges have continued to climb. The College Board reported that tuition and fees at private colleges had risen 4.5 percent to $28,500 a year.

Many college students have flocked to the Occupy Wall Street movement in recent weeks, citing rising amounts of student loan debt and increasing rates of joblessness. Nationwide, an estimated 150 campuses have staged walkouts -- with Occupy Colleges, a student-led grassroots coalition, planning additional teach-ins during the middle of next week.

Nate Barchus, a 23-year-old recent graduate of the Rhode Island School of Design, counts himself among the "overeducated and underemployed."

Barchus, who stood sweeping the Occupy Wall Street library early Friday morning, is about $25,000 in debt.

Earlier this fall, he first heard about the protests on Facebook and soon arrived in Manhattan, where he had hoped to find work.

"I came here for a job search and was so demoralized by the lack of meaningful jobs that I figured this was a more valuable use of my time," said Barchus, who, despite the frigid weekend forecast, plans to remain camped out in the park indefinitely.

Last weekend, Sara Bachman paid a three-day visit to Zuccotti Park during her fall break at Middlebury College.

Bachman, a 20-year-old environmental studies and religion major, grew up near Portland, Maine, in an upper-middle-class home. Her mother is a school nurse and her father is an emergency room physician. Come graduation day, Bachman said she faces between $30,000 and $40,000 in student loan debt.

While her school participated in a campus-wide solidarity protest a few weeks back, Bachman wanted to see Occupy Wall Street with her own eyes.

Alongside two other Middlebury students, Bachman plopped her backpack and sleeping bag down on an unoccupied stretch of concrete in Zuccotti Park and prepared to spend Saturday night.

Though Bachman returned to Vermont in time for Wednesday's classes, she said the sense of community and passion she discovered among the fellow protesters not only filled her with a sense of hopefulness about the future, but is likely to fuel her return later this year.

When Grant heard about Occupy Wall Street, he also felt compelled to experience it firsthand.

By his own admission, Grant grew up poor. He's the first person in his family to graduate from college. His mother looks after an elderly woman and his father wraps meat at a local grocery store.

Grant made the hour-and-a-half trip into Manhattan in the back of a van owned by his brother's boss. Though he'd only visited Manhattan two or three times before, he walked from Pennsylvania Station on 34th Street to Zuccotti Park.

Since Grant initially planned to stay only a week, he brought along just a few changes of clothes, some cologne, deodorant, toothpaste, a toothbrush and a tent. The first night, he said he nearly froze to death without a sleeping bag. In order to last the winter, Grant has realized he'll have to acquire some heavy-duty outdoor gear.

So far, Grant said he has yet to meet many other recent graduates or current students living in the park.

"Everyone says this a youth movement, but I don't see that many youth," said Grant, who eventually wants to go back to school to become an elementary school teacher but refuses to take on more debt until he's paid off his undergraduate loans. "But where is everyone?"

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09:39 AM on 11/03/2011
Do any of these free loaders think of how complaining to national media agencies is going to affect their job hunting efforts?
It is standard practice to google search potential employees, and if the first things coming up are articles highlighting their lack of hygiene and aptitude for whining, methinks they will not get hired.
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Eric Shin
The Asian Superbrain Redundant I know
09:33 AM on 11/03/2011
I just hope the Bloods and Crips who are also part of the 99% don't decide to arrive from Oakland.
01:40 PM on 11/01/2011
To my peers in OWS, I support you.

My personal advice:
Get out of the country quick. America is in decline. The first people that flee this sinking ship will do better than the last people to flee. Americans are about to be the despised immigrants of the world. As we start showing up in other countries in mass to seek opportunity, the natives will treat us as bad as we treated our own immigrants in years past. Your best bet is to leave now, and assimilate as quickly and quietly as possible wherever you end up.

Tip, Sweden is offering instant work visas for any foreigner that is hired by a Swedish company. Sign and fly away. The Nordic countries have hardly felt this recession, and Sweden is in a desperate labor shortage, from unskilled labor, to medical, to hi-tech IT. Taxes in Sweden are on average what what an average US citizen pays when you combine local, state, and federal taxes in the US. The best part is that you have something to show for your taxes paid in Sweden. The first $80,000 USD in earned income is not taxed by the US either, so don't worry too much about double taxation.
09:26 AM on 11/01/2011
Dude, stay in college and protect your 0.2 GPA.
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tinsldr2
Retired Army Officer
12:52 AM on 11/01/2011
Think any of them applied to the Army for a Job? College Grad starts at rank of SPC (pay grade E-4) and has excellent student loan repayment with opportunities to go to OCS once they are in. They can apply for OCS and go right after basic but then wont get student loan repayment and it is harder to get accepted to that.

But I still dont get what they are protesting?? That they took out loans and are expected to pay them back? How does that make any sense to protest that.

That they cant find jobs? What a great idea, get filmed and interviewed so that when an employer does a google search on your name he finds out you were living in Obamaville protesting his corporation!

I dont know I have had a job since I was 11 (news paper route). I am 48 now and have a son in college. He is pre-med. If he told me he was going to be an environmental studies and religion major I wouldnt pay for his education. Certainly NOT at a Private School. He would need at least a masters if not a PHD to get a entry level job in the field pretty much.

Take a class in that if it interests you but the purpose of a degree is to get a job so go in a field with a lot of jobs!
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OhioYippieHippie
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09:55 AM on 11/01/2011
what are you talking about? Obamaville? This is no more an Obamaville than a ReaganBushClintonBushObamaville, get it? How about you keep your snide comments about your cammander in cheif to yourself soldier, employee of the people. now do some pushups for your disrespect
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tinsldr2
Retired Army Officer
12:59 PM on 11/01/2011
Oh i keep forgetting how undereducated many Huffington post readers are about US history. So I apologize to you.

"A 'Hooverville' was the popular name for shanty towns built by homeless people during the Great Depression. They were named after the President of the United States at the time, Herbert Hoover, because he allegedly let the nation slide into depression."

Calling the OWSER encampments an "Obamaville" was an obvious play on words on the Hooverville of the Depression. Again i apologize for making a reference that was over your head.

I also think you have trouble comprehending English though since my bio says "retired" but for that I can offer you know help.

Now go read a history book for your own edification.
09:17 AM on 11/03/2011
.... And learn to spell "cOmmander" and "chief" Remember, "I" before "E", ecxept after "C"
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lcr999
scientist
08:58 PM on 10/31/2011
Duh, Nathan just graduated and now he wants to go back to school to be an elementary teacher. No word on what he majored in. Why didn't he major in elementary education to start with?
08:39 AM on 10/31/2011
Hmmm a group of college grads with no private sector experience that want something for nothing?! Sounds like a breeding ground for Obama voters....hey guys, you should be protesting at 1600 Pennsylvania Ave since this is Obamas failed policies at work. Want four more years of this eh?
12:40 PM on 10/31/2011
I don't agree with your Obama sentiments, but I agree that I have a problem with these grads complaining. Attending a private university is expensive, everyone knows that. Attending a private university is not a right.
09:18 AM on 11/03/2011
Or maybe they should have chosen a major with actual real world applications instead of "Humanitarian Studies" or "Music"
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Eric Shin
The Asian Superbrain Redundant I know
12:06 AM on 10/31/2011
This in a nutshell synopsizes the problem:

Bachman, a 20-year-old environmental studies and religion major, grew up near Portland, Maine, in an upper-middle-class home. Her mother is a school nurse and her father is an emergency room physician

Her parents have jobs that are applicable in the real world. What the heck do you do with an environmental degree? Hug the environment? Religion major? Which department at a corporation deals with religion?
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DeeBlackthorne
Mmmm-hmmm. I'm not brainwashed.
01:50 PM on 11/02/2011
Students choose double majors for a variety of reasons, many of which need no demonization.

In some instances, the combinations of two degrees are quite marketable -- combining, business management with any number of social science or educational specializations. The focal course work may be covered in one major; the other may specify an area or sector in which they want to work. In other instances, double majors may offer competing but complementary training in a relevant area like psychology and sociology -- two very different perspectives on how society works and where interests are focused, but still both useful in venturing into allied health fields. (You just know "both sides" of the issues.)

In still other instances, double majors may blend a subject area of interest plus an allied area -- of interest or otherwise -- that facilitate the development of marketable skills. For example, said business major in example one may pursue a philosophy degree because of the latter's emphasis in structuring analyses, debates, and logic in writing out proposals and initiatives, or perhaps even grant writing.

In still others, double majors may combine to serve as a facsimile of a major, vocation, or career path not otherwise available at a school.

So, maybe this student doesn't need to hug trees; maybe he's working for a nonprofit or taking a creative path toward forestry or preservation. We don't know; we're not him. So, maybe we shouldn't automatically deride his choice of employment?
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Eric Shin
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01:55 PM on 11/02/2011
I ironically interviewed someone for a job last night with one of these type degrees i deride and let me tell you she was all about wanting to change the world, doing good, etc, etc and really nothing that matters in my business. That is what the issue is with these type majors, they are all about going green, feeding the hungry, taking care of pingeons, etc which again is not a route to getting a job and that's why these kids are protesting.
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Eric Shin
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12:02 AM on 10/31/2011
Why do I think this guy's major was bongology
03:32 AM on 10/31/2011
chill out, seriously
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Eric Shin
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08:34 AM on 10/31/2011
That's what he said.
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Eric Shin
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12:01 AM on 10/31/2011
Maybe if Sparky here got a haircut, shaved his Grizzley Adams beard and stopped smiling like Justin Bieber he would get more interviews.
02:15 AM on 10/31/2011
What an astute observation.
09:32 AM on 11/03/2011
Amen. Or maybe since hes no longer in his parents basement Mommy isnt helping him shave or paying for his haircuts.
02:08 PM on 11/03/2011
Not quite what I was getting at..
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Eric Shin
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11:59 PM on 10/30/2011
Are they sending in the second infantry aka Private college students to OWS? Will gay college student be next DADTOWS? BTW, the only people I know who went to private colleges were rich kids from my home town of Livingston, NJ who couldn't get into Ivys so they decided to go to a private schools so they didn't have to be around minorities. lol
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03:44 PM on 10/30/2011
So Grant goes to NY in late October and plans on camping out for a week and brings nothing to stay warm at night like a sleeping bag...and yet he wonders why no one will give him a job.
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farmilyman
everything is illusion
05:04 AM on 10/30/2011
Why would anyone go to a private college unless their parents saved up for it?
09:02 PM on 10/29/2011
You don't graduate college in may and expect a magical $90,000 job by Sept. When I finished college in 06 I had the same magical hopes. Five years later I have climbed aggressively to get hat job that I now love but magically expected when I took off my cap and gown.

There is much that is broken in our economy, but a huge problem is people taking on huge debt with a promise that it's worth it. Its not worth it to buy a house that is beyond your means nor worth it to pay 10 times what you need to for an education. I myself graduated from a private school with tuition in the same ballpark as Ithaca College, but I worked hard for scholarships, I paid as many bills as I could by holding a 35 hour a week job, and I cranked through my classes in 3 years by picking up summer classes at the community college. $10,000 in student loans is still a big investment, but I believe that my peers are wasteful and they have themselves to blame for too much debt. Pick a school that is within your means, have patience while looking for your dream job, and shut up when you blew it along the way.
10:01 PM on 10/29/2011
You nailed my sentiments and experience exactly -- well said!
01:41 AM on 10/30/2011
Unfortunately, if you want that dream job in this, or any market, frankly, your chances of landing that job are better if you went to Harvard than if you went to a community college. Haven't you noticed? Congratulations on your accomplishments, but can you really fault someone for getting into big-time debt because they aimed for Columbia rather than Borough of Manhattan Comunity College and upon graduation found themselves in a contracting job market? All that aside, education in this country is much too expensive. And for more and more people, just plain out of reach.
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lcr999
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09:00 PM on 10/31/2011
He didn't aim at Columbia. he aimed at Ithaca College.
08:29 PM on 10/29/2011
At this point the only majors that are really employable are medical and science at this point. But medicine/science is not for everyone and due to the fact that there are a lot of jobs in this field, the supply may end up outweighing the demand.... :/ Technology isn't really as big due to the wave of outsourcing!! I have friends I went to college with years ago that are teacher, I.T. People etc. and a lot have lost their jobs due to government issues with teachers and outsourcing! I recently read an article about Americans outsourcing themselves, who ever would've though!! It seems like things are bad everywhere nowadays no matter what your degree is in.