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Tax The Poor: Forget Occupy Wall Street, Conservatives Have A Different Idea

Posted: 10/30/11 03:16 PM ET

WASHINGTON -- The nation's ongoing economic downturn has sparked an odd response from a growing number of conservative and Republican leaders: a desire to blame the unfortunate and a demand for the poor to pay more.

With the economy in its deepest crater since the Great Depression and the GOP pushed by the aggressively anti-tax Tea Party, the call to have the middle and working classes help the rich has reached levels not heard since Reagan-era attacks on the mythical "welfare queens."

It's most often expressed in the growing complaint that about half the nation's households pay no federal income tax -- an accurate figure that varies from 46 percent to 51 percent, depending on which set of statistics are being used.

Take Sen. John Cornyn (R-Texas), chairman of the National Republican Senatorial Committee, who complained over the summer about Americans who escape federal taxes -- and worse, get help from the government.

"A majority of American households paid no income tax in 2009. Zero. Zip. Nada. No income tax was paid by 51 percent of the households in America in 2009," Cornyn said with derision in a Senate floor speech.

"Actually, to show how out of whack things have gotten, 30 percent of American households actually made money from the tax system by way of refundable tax credits -- the earned income tax credit, among others," complained Cornyn, holding that fact out as evidence that the tax system needs to be fixed, presumably so those people pay more.

Sen. Orrin Hatch (R-Utah) put it more bluntly.

"I hear how they're [Democrats are] so caring for the poor and so forth," Hatch said in the same July debate. "The poor need jobs! And they also need to share some of the responsibility."

Again, the numbers are correct, but the argument ignores the fact that the median salary in the United States has fallen to just $26,364, the lowest since 1999, before the tax cuts of the George W. Bush presidency.

It also ignores the fact that the half who pay no federal income tax do pay sales taxes, federal payroll taxes, state and local taxes, and -- if they own a home -- property taxes.

Hatch and Cornyn were opposing a nonbinding Democratic resolution that would have done nothing more than declare that the wealthy should share the burden for digging the country out of its economic ditch and reducing the deficit. Yet they were hardly alone in the pushback against the poor. Sen. Jeff Sessions (R-Ala.) said the idea of even holding that vote was "rather pathetic."

The senators' remarks came at the height of the debate over raising the nation's borrowing limit, but the idea that the less well-off are somehow to blame for their circumstances -- and ought to do more to share the responsibility -- has not gone away since.

Indeed, on the presidential campaign trail, the hot idea is instituting some sort of flat tax, from Herman Cain's 9-9-9 plan to Rick Perry's suggestion of a 20 percent income tax. Rep. Michelle Bachmann (R-Minn.) hasn't offered her tax scheme yet, but she agrees the poor should pay more.

"I believe absolutely every American benefits by this magnificent country. Absolutely every American should pay something, even if it's a dollar," Bachmann said at a recent debate.

Economists on the left and right agree that such plans "broaden the base" of taxpayers. In practice, that means the poor and middle class pay more, while the wealthy pay less.

Cain's plan, for instance, would raise taxes by about 58 percent for the bottom 20 percent of earners, double them for the middle class, and cut them by 249 percent for the top fifth of the income ladder, according to the nonpartisan Tax Policy Center.

With the income gap at Gilded Age levels -- the income of the top 1 percent has jumped 275 percent since 1979, giving it more than 20 percent of the nation's earnings -- and with unemployment hovering at 9 percent, the Occupy Wall Street movement and its "We are the 99 percent" sentiment might seem to offer an antidote. But in some ways, Occupy Wall Street has inflamed the spread-the-pain side, with conservative blogger Erick Erickson launching a "We are the 53%" website. The name refers to the people who pay some federal income tax and implicitly belittles the less fortunate who don't; more bluntly, the site describes itself as a statement from "Those of us who pay for those of you who whine about all of that."

The growing cry to push the tax bill further down the earnings curve is not just a rhetorical point either. It's become an issue in the ongoing talks of Congress' super committee as it tries to come up with a minimum of $1.2 trillion more in deficit reduction.

Congress' budget experts agree that if the taxpayer base can be made bigger, that would help cut deficits, which they say in turn could spur the economy and investment. They don't address specifically what that would mean for the middle class.

Sen. Pat Toomey (R-Pa.), the former head of the anti-tax Club for Growth and a member of the committee, made the same point in the committee's most recent hearing with Douglas Elmendorf, director of the Congressional Budget Office.

"Is it your view that if we were to pursue revenue-neutral tax reform that would have the effect of broadening the base on which taxes are applied and lowering marginal rates, that it is true both with respect to such corporate reform or individual reform, that that would have a pro-growth effect on the economy -- which, of course, in turn generates more income for the government?" Toomey asked.

"Yes, that's right," Elmendorf answered, with the caveat that "the amounts would depend on the specifics of the proposal."

For the Congressional Budget Office, broadening the base could also include closing corporate tax loopholes. Toomey's office declined repeated requests to elaborate his vision of "broadening," but the Club for Growth is adamantly opposed to raising taxes on corporations or high-income earners, and strong supports the flat tax.

The right's scapegoating of the poor has also grown, with food stamps serving as a target -- even as disappearing jobs and falling wages have sparked a huge jump in the numbers of families needing help to get enough to eat.

Yet leaders like Sessions still think the country is doing too much to help them. Sessions suggested the need is phony by pointing to a Michigan man who won a lottery but kept using food stamps, as well as noting a gun runner who received food stamps.

"We cannot do this. We do not have the money," said Sessions, declaring the rise in recipients shows not a need for food but a need for reform.

Advocates for a progressive tax system hear in Sessions' words a return to anti-welfare arguments that, while they were ultimately proved to be false, nevertheless had impact.

"I think it's the welfare queen theme all over again," said the Tax Policy Center's Isabel Sawhill.

It might seem inconceivable that Congress would consider raising taxes on the middle and working classes, but Democrats on the super committee are already thinking about making Medicare beneficiaries pay more.

And while poverty rates may be bad, they were equally bad when the welfare queen attacks helped bring about the Clinton administration's welfare reform.

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04:40 PM on 12/13/2011
Very informative video . I would like to dedicate the links below to the 1%

You Got To Give Back -
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qFQprHo1JoE&feature=share

http://www.flickspire.com/m/Share_This/changeforadollar?lsid=b6e99ecf65420e076527f3e28ad6bf89
08:57 PM on 12/01/2011
You have to realize that the tax changes the Republicans are asking for are a lot less extreme than this article has stretched the numbers to imply. A flat tax actually means a higher tax rate for a lot of the superrich (due to eliminating loopholes), and most of the extra money the changes will raise even with lower rates will come from correcting the huge cost that comes from collecting taxes based on our impossibly complicated tax code. The only people who are really benefitting tax-wise are the middle class, and the poor are those who benefit the most from a growing economy. A growing economy is exactly what we are going to see if we can get rid of the huge administrative burden of our corrupted tax system, which is totally written for political purposes and has nothing to do with collecting taxes efficiently. Remember, conservatives are statistically more generous with their own money than liberals. The current tax code is totally hardwired to make people poorer, and the conservatives who are accused of being heartless are really trying the hardest to help the poor. As Poor Richard says, "Give a man a fish, feed him for a day; teach a man to fish, feed him for a lifetime." It's time we started allowing the poor to support themselves, instead of incentivizing laziness and begging.
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Lo Chiaro
Knowledge + wisdom defeats ignorance
11:02 PM on 11/29/2011
Better to receive than give. The new GOP credo.
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Al Jolson
regressive republicans give me gas
10:06 PM on 11/20/2011
The repugos want to squeeze the poor till their baby's eyes pop out, so they can give the 1% a bigger tax break!!!!!!!!!

The freaking GOP criminals are constantly demonizing the poor and are now openly working to stop many from voting in 2012. The only answer is to get out the vote!
11:47 PM on 11/06/2011
This is why I want to split the country. Let these rich sons of bitches have their own country. We would be well rid of these fascists.
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LangstonA
Attempting to stand in the gap
10:38 PM on 11/05/2011
I wish Sessions et al could have seen my co-worker collapse on the office floor from working two jobs. http://bit.ly/PrayerRoomFloor
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Homer Zerrudo
Happy (or trying for it)..
03:13 AM on 11/04/2011
Apparently, privilege is the number one cause of "blinders" among the well-heeled crowd.

Yes, blinders - as in, those patches applied to the eyes to prevent one from seeing how anybody else, besides one's self, is doing.
11:52 PM on 11/03/2011
When does Republican obstructionism become treason?
06:33 PM on 11/02/2011
Unless they use a 1099, the poor do, indeed, pay income taxes every time they get a paycheck. At the end of the year, they may get a full refund of their payouts from the Federal Government (sometimes their local government as well). So, it isn't really that the poor don't pay income taxes; they get 100% income tax refunds in many cases.

A lot of people get those refunds. So, essentially, what the Republicans are saying is, they want to reduce the refunds on the poor and the lower middle class. Rather than increasing taxes by 4% on 1% of the country.

For shame.
09:08 PM on 11/02/2011
That's Bullsh*t! I know of poor working and non-working people that DO profit from this broken system. All they have to have in their returns is to claim one or more children as dependants and boom! Automatically get a $1000 from uncle sam! This system is broken and the poor have to pay their share or at least not profit from this US Federal income tax return broken system.
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JannielB
DAR=My ancestors were Progressive.
09:03 AM on 11/03/2011
Umm, the poor have to have jobs with living wages so that they can support themselves *and* increase the tax base.
Unions are the only way that we have of getting the wages that we need. Corps aren't going to change by themselves.
06:15 PM on 11/03/2011
Oh get real. Not every poor person out there is having a baby every year to get a refund. And, yes, they do pay taxes. They pay the same hidden taxes you pay. They pay gas taxes, house taxes, car registration taxes. Clothes are taxed as is most non food items.

Poor do pay taxes. All. The. Time.
03:17 PM on 11/02/2011
"Take Sen. John Cornyn (R-Texas), chairman of the National Republican Senatorial Committee, who complained over the summer about Americans who escape federal taxes -- and worse, get help from the government."

Yeah, like Exxon and other oil companies who pay NO TAXES (after billions in record profits!) while at the same time receiving BILLIONS MORE in tax payer subsidies (ie: "help from the government")... Like THAT Senator Cornyn?

I PAY MY TAXES... why don't they?!!! And now you want to TAX THE POOR so these mega rich MULTINATIONAL (ie: "foreign") corporations can continue to TAKE from Americans (all while sending our jobs overseas)?!!!

Perhaps YOU should try living on FOOD STAMPS for one month (like some of your Dem colleagues are doing) before giving another cent to your owners (er.. contributors).
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queenofcore
05:50 PM on 11/02/2011
LOVE IT. SO TRUE
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mrscro
11:58 PM on 11/05/2011
exactly i almost barfed while waiting to fill out for food stamps,although i cannot let my rpide get in the way of feeding my family,i have been working 2 jobs to pay for everythign,i pay taxes everyweek when i spend 300 a week on gas to get to work ,when i buy my kis cloting,and that michelle bachmann(homophobe beeyatch) said we all should pay even if its a dollar,sure i will gladly give a dollar out of each and evey paycheck ,so long as its being used to support a governemtn that supports my right to prosperity,it does not matter how hard i work ,we jsut can't catch a break,hmm maybe if mommy and daddy gave me everything,and a top education ,my first house ,car .like these 1%ers,i would be doing great,these people act as if them and their kids started out like working class citizens that they would be where they are now,nope they would be jsut like us slaves,working for slave wages
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yankhadenuf
Let them eat trickled down crumbs
03:14 PM on 11/02/2011
Hatch is vile! The WORKING poor head-of-households earn the Earned Income Credit (EIC) due to having low wages AND minor and/or disabled dependents to be responsible for on top of that.
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Anonymous17
Thank You Fox News For Keeping us Infromed - T.P.
02:51 PM on 11/02/2011
This just in:

Award for the Oxymoron of the year goes to...... You guessed it... **COMPASSIONATE CONSERVATIVE!**
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troutster
Fish fear me. Otherwise, I'm pretty harmless.
02:44 PM on 11/02/2011
Taxing the poor isn't just about raising income or taking the pressure off the rich. It's a social engineering experiment.

Poor people won't pay a federal income tax...cuz they're poor...the bottom 40% has only .2% of the wealth. You can't get blood out of a turnip.

What do we do with non-tax-payers? Put them in jail for tax evasion. Think of it! Massive prisons housing all the people who are too poor to pay! All for profit, of course!

Prisons for poor people...the newest growth industry in America!
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queenofcore
05:52 PM on 11/02/2011
yea and who pays for those prisons. these halfwit wingnutbaggers dont thinks thing thru.
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MJinCanada
Safe from zombies until my 2nd cup of coffee
02:39 PM on 11/02/2011
The Republicans need to wonder why, in one of the richest countries on earth, nearly half the people aren't earning enough to be able to afford to pay income tax, and many WORKING people still need food stamps.
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gregory57
Micro-bio, was one of my favorite classes.
02:28 PM on 11/02/2011
"Tax the poor." Being poor IS a tax.