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Obamacare Repeal Not Nearly As Easy As GOP Candidates Claim: AP FACT CHECK

CALVIN WOODWARD and RICARDO ALONSO-ZALDIVAR   11/03/11 11:45 AM ET  AP

WASHINGTON — To hear some Republican presidential candidates tell it, the president's pen is a magic wand that can make "Obamacare" vanish in one day and sweep in cheaper health care, economic growth and lots of jobs in businesses freed from the health care law's heavy hand.

But there is no such fairy dust in Washington.

Across the board, the contenders pledge to repeal the health law they denigrate as "Obamacare." In doing so, some are more realistic than others about what they can achieve and how fast.

The Republican case against the law comes with a dose of myth-making that may raise false hopes among voters who wish it could, in fact, simply go "poof." If the overhaul is to fall, it won't happen overnight with a new GOP administration. Any dismantling promises to be just as much of a slog as was its creation.

Mitt Romney has been the most persistent in claiming that as president, he would free states from the law's requirements with an executive order on his first day in charge, even though he would have no authority to do so. Rick Perry has held out the prospect of lower health insurance premiums once the law is gone, citing research that actually tells a mostly different story.

Herman Cain would like to turn repeal into a birthday present of sorts. He says if Congress moves fast enough he'd sign the repeal March 23, 2013 – his son's birthday and the third anniversary of the law's signing.

All place the law's repeal as a chief component of their plans to grow the economy and jobs, rightly noting the overhaul's myriad regulations but overselling the ability of one act of legislative subtraction to lift all boats.

A look at some of the claims in the Republican campaign and how they compare with the facts:

ROMNEY: "One thing I'd do on Day One if I'm elected president is direct my secretary of health and human services to put an executive order granting a waiver from Obamacare to all 50 states. It is bad law. It will not work. And I'll get that done on Day One." – Claim in Sept. 7 debate, which he echoed in most other debates.

PERRY: "And I'll promise you, on Day One, as the president of the United States, that executive order will be signed and Obamacare will be wiped out as much as it can be." – Sept. 7 debate.

CAIN: "I'm going to un-pass it on my son's birthday." – Nov. 2 forum with the GOP's Congressional Health Care Caucus.

MICHELE BACHMANN: "With all due respect ... issuing an executive order will not overturn this massive law." – Sept. 7 debate.

THE FACTS: Bachmann is right, and it's not the first time she corrected her rivals on the matter.

A president cannot overturn a law with an executive order. Moreover, the health law lays out an onerous process for letting individual states off the hook from its requirements; that process cannot begin until 2017.

For a state to be granted a waiver, it must show that it will provide coverage that is at least as comprehensive and affordable as under the federal law. Also, a state has to insure a comparable number of its residents, and its plan must not add to the federal deficit by shifting costs to Washington. Finally, a state has to enact its own health law setting up the system envisioned in its waiver request.

Romney's assertion also implies that all states would want to get out of the health care law. That's a doubtful proposition for Democratic-leaning states.

Cain recognizes that for the law to be repealed, Congress must act. But presidents don't set the congressional calendar, and even if Republicans can secure a 60-vote majority that gives them control of the Senate, the train of legislation seldom runs on schedule.

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ROMNEY: "On Day One, granting a waiver to all 50 states doesn't stop in its tracks entirely Obamacare. That's why I also say we have to repeal Obamacare, and I will do that on Day Two with a reconciliation bill, because, as you know, it was passed by reconciliation, 51 votes. We can get rid of it with 51 votes." – Oct. 11 debate.

THE FACTS: This is a strategy to undermine the law by starving it of money. Its only real chance is if Republicans win congressional majorities as well as the presidency or at the very least a rash of improbable Democratic defections in Congress.

Although not a single-day project, it represents one threat to Obama's law, if one with political risk and tough odds. Some core parts of the law are not dependent on annual budgeting.

Going beyond the budget process to repeal the law in full is an even steeper climb. It would require a larger Republican congressional majority to move forward and to clinch 60 votes in the Senate – all this as the law increasingly takes root in the nation's medical and insurance system.

The law extends coverage to uninsured citizens and legal immigrants by providing tax credits to help middle-class households buy a policy and by expanding Medicaid for low-income people. It would require almost all people to carry health insurance, either through an employer, a government program or by individual purchase. It would set up health insurance markets in every state to make it easier for individuals and small business to buy coverage. It's financed through tax increases and Medicare cuts.

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PERRY: "According to CBO's own calculations, repealing Obamacare will reduce the cost of health insurance premiums and reduce federal spending on health care." – His economic plan.

THE FACTS: No one can be sure what would happen with premiums absent the health care law, but Perry's use of a Congressional Budget Office analysis was selective, at best.

The nonpartisan congressional accountants forecast that repeal of the law would raise premiums for people who get coverage from large-employer plans, not lower them, and that premiums could go either way for small-employer plans. About half the population is covered by such work-based insurance.

The CBO says repeal of the law probably would result in lower premiums in the individual insurance market, which covers about 4 percent of the population.

But there are important caveats. Many policyholders would probably end up paying more because they would not get the insurance subsidies provided under the law, the analysis says.

Individual insurance policies on average would provide fewer benefits, and cover less of an enrollee's health care expenses, than will be provided by the insurance exchanges coming into effect under the law.

The analysis also projected that repealing the law would increase the federal deficit.

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Online:

CBO report: http://tinyurl.com/3h4uxav

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04:31 PM on 12/06/2011
I'm wondering just how many of these commentors have actually read the bill as passed. I am an Insurance Agent and I am vehemently opposed to mandated health insurance. I do not carry health insurance because I pay my own health care related bills, by default this law would make me a criminal simply because I pay my own bills. What a crock.

Anyone who has a thorough understanding of insurance can easily see the problem with this law.

What the law does do is criminalize being poor. The "Mandate" incorporated into the law must be repealed. Failure to do so will result in as much as 40 percent of the American public being declared criminals for no other reason than that they are to poor to buy health insurance.

If you think big corporations have to much power and influence in Washington now, What do you think is going to happen when we take over 2 trillion dollars annually out of our economy and place it into the hands of Fat Cat Insurance companies? How much of that money do you think will make it back to Washington in the form of campaign contributions.

Wake up America. I'm in the insurance industry and I can assure you your premiums will not decrease and the quality of your care will not be improved by this law. This will be the biggest raping of the American Public in History.
08:57 AM on 11/15/2011
TThese politicians dont really care about the people of the U.S. they are all for themselves, .They are all wealthy , how did they get so much? The same way all the politicians do.lying cheating,stealing from the American people If they really cared about the American people , they would throw out Obamacare , put in the same medical coverage that congress and all politicians have, add a 2 cent vat tax, 10 percent tax on people making 1 million or more a year, add all the medicare money,to pay for it. put the money in a trust that cant be used for anything but that. Cap all doctors and hospitals revoke all non profit status, they should pay taxes too. allow them 15 percent profit no more . Give the insurance to all Americans free no exceptions.
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03:46 AM on 11/08/2011
Gore
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03:46 AM on 11/08/2011
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03:43 AM on 11/08/2011
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03:43 AM on 11/08/2011
Global Warming
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elfish
03:43 AM on 11/08/2011
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I'M IN
01:49 PM on 11/04/2011
Kudos to CALVIN WOODWARD and RICARDO ALONSO-ZALDIVAR for this amazing article!!! Now this is real journalism.
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djh6721
Sic gorgiamus allos subiectatos nunc:
12:17 PM on 11/04/2011
Blowing the dog whistle so the faithful old hounds will come a runnin"
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cubs835
11:06 AM on 11/04/2011
while they scream and whine like immature teenagers - what do they have ready to take its place to solve the serious healthcare problems we have in this country?
11:12 AM on 11/04/2011
Nothing, they don't care. They have no compassion, no humanity, not much in the way of education either.
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tullydad
Former member of the middle class, now poor.
10:49 AM on 11/04/2011
Socialized medicine is a good idea. ALL of the cool kids have it.
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usamade
10:36 AM on 11/04/2011
Has anyone chosen their healthcare for next year yet? I did and it went up 20%. I'll be paying $636/month.
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08Voter
Cry 'havoc' and let slip the dogs of war.
10:43 AM on 11/04/2011
27% increase here. Thanks for nothing Obama.
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iskra
Natural enemy of sharks and tro//s
10:53 AM on 11/04/2011
News flash, it's been going up at those rates for a decade. Now you're blaming the President? Maybe you ought to consider blaming the insurance profiteers.
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notafollower
10:56 AM on 11/04/2011
Please educate yourself.
11:18 AM on 11/04/2011
usamade, you must be fairly young.

$1200 a month is what we are paying here in Florida for my 64 year old wife. This year increase was much the same as previous years.

We are very envious of friends in Massachusetts where the regulation is better.
11:27 AM on 11/04/2011
Be more envious of people in many other industrial nations. Government health care which is better than ours, at no cost!
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ssnt
670 Economists(6 w/ Nobel Prize) like Mitt's plan
11:34 AM on 11/04/2011
Don't envy MA. The state is going broke and they have group doctor visits.
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Pete Puma
10:28 AM on 11/04/2011
Wow. When Michelle Bachmann is the voice of reason...
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Self-employed architect, pauper among plutocrats
10:02 PM on 11/04/2011
That speaks volumes about the 21st century Republicant Party.
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Sinister Minister
There's no way out of here alive.
10:26 AM on 11/04/2011
All of this is posturing by the republicans. They love this new law. It funnels money into insurance companies and big pharmaceutical companies. Some of their biggest donors.

Why do you think Romney was behind it when he could perpetrate it on his state. Did he think less of his constituents than he does of the rest of America?
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p456
Walking Tall.
10:26 AM on 11/04/2011
Where would they be without their government socialized heath care? Where would Dick Cheney be without his government socialized health care? Wake up if your against so called Obamacare your already beyond help.