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Small Business Owners Ask Super Committee To Tax Big Corporations

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First Posted: 11/04/11 01:19 PM ET Updated: 11/04/11 02:23 PM ET

WASHINGTON -- Outraged by a new report about America's largest corporations dodging their taxes, small business owners are orchestrating a new campaign to pressure the congressional super committee into delivering a legislative fix.

Twenty-five companies, led by Wells Fargo, AT&T, and Verizon, enjoyed a combined $114.8 billion in tax breaks from 2008 to 2010, according to a joint study by Citizens for Tax Justice and the Institute on Taxation and Economic Policy released Thursday. Of 280 Fortune 500 companies the report examined, analysts detailed a combined $222.7 billion in tax subsidies.

Wells Fargo collected $681 million from taxpayers after making $49.3 billion in profits in 2008-10. Verizon Communications earned $32.5 billion over the same period, but got an extra $951 million back from taxpayers.

Wells Fargo told The Huffington Post the data in the report was taken out of context, just as General Electric did on Thursday.

"The truth is that over the past 10 years Wells Fargo has paid more than $30 billion in income taxes to federal and state authorities and billions more in other taxes, and it fulfills all tax obligations," Ancel Martinez, a spokesperson for Wells Fargo, said in a statement. "The years cited by the study were unusual for Wells Fargo, as results included significant losses as a consequence of its acquisition of Wachovia [12/31/08], which when realized reduced Wells Fargo's taxable income."

Martinez added Wells Fargo expects to pay significant income taxes in 2011.

But that's not enough for some small business owners.

Jody Gorran, owner of Aquatherm Industries Inc., which employs 45 people in Lakewood, N.J. to manufacture solar panels, called it "unconscionable." Gorran told HuffPost he felt like small businesses are bearing the brunt of the business tax burden "simply because a large corporation [has] potentially hundreds of accountants looking to minimize their tax liability."

"It's crazy, it's like creating this false dichotomy as if it were reality [that taxes are too high]," Gorran said. "We pay that rate [35 percent] but no one else seems to bother."

Business for Shared Prosperity, the Main Street Alliance and the American Sustainable Business Council sent a letter this week to super committee members charged with finding ways to reduce the deficit asking them to make the corporate income tax more equitable.

"The tax code should promote a level playing field between large multinational corporations and smaller, domestic businesses," the letter read. "We need to close loopholes that allow large multinational corporations to avoid their tax obligations by shifting U.S. profits offshore, rather than rewarding firms engaging in this practice with either short or permanent tax holidays."

"Big Business is getting away with taxation murder," said Frank Knapp, president and CEO of the South Carolina Small Business Chamber of Commerce, in a statement. "They pay little or no taxes on massive U.S. profits and then have the gall to lobby for lowering the 'high' corporate tax rate. They’re even campaigning for a tax holiday to 'repatriate' profits they have stashed offshore to avoid taxes. Patriots pay their taxes; they don’t dodge them."

The number of corporations paying no corporate income taxes has doubled since 2008, the group of tax policy think tanks found. And much to the chagrin of Occupy Wall Street protesters, the financial industry has taken $37.45 billion in tax subsidies from 2008 to 2010. When asked by The Huffington Post if this validates the protesters' anger, Robert McIntyre, director for Citizens for Tax Justice said "I'm sure they'll be interested in it."

"There are vast disparities within industries and between industries. The playing field is clearly not level," said Rebecca Wilkins, senior counsel for Citizens for Tax Justice.

When Ronald Reagan took office, corporations were dealing with a 14 percent effective tax rate. After Reagan signed tax reform into law in 1986, closing loopholes, he left office with an effective tax rate of 26.5 percent. Today, federal corporate taxes have dipped to an all-time low.

"We're now in a situation much like we faced way back then," McIntyre said, adding "This is just as unacceptable as it was back in the 1980s."

House Republicans have been pushing to scale the corporate income tax rate from 35 percent to 25 percent. But by the Joint Taxation Committee's calculations, the lowest revenue neutral number they could get to is 28 percent. Even that would cause difficulties.

"You want to have a lower tax rate from 35 percent down to 25 percent? Well, fine, but eliminate the loopholes. … This takes you into discussions into off-shoring of jobs and profits and the whole issue of repatriation," Gorran said, referring to the corporate practice of stashing money abroad to avoid paying U.S. taxes.

Sen. Carl Levin (D-Mich.) studied through the Senate Joint Taxation Committee how much it would cost for a tax holiday to let companies bring their money back from off-shore accounts. They concluded it would cost taxpayers upwards of $80 billion to bring $4 billion in corporate cash currently stashed abroad back into the U.S.

"It is also unfair to the 96 or 97 percent of the companies that keep their operations here. For them to compete with companies who are paying a 5 percent tax rate as they move their jobs overseas while they're paying up to a 35 percent corporate tax rate is unfair to the companies that stay," Levin said in October. "So that kind of preference to the few at the expense of the many is one of the reason we've got so much frustration and so much anger in this country."

A majority of layoffs in 2011 have come from state governments, which have been devastated by the lack of revenue. With this income off the table thanks to federal tax law, states lose the ability to tax it. And states have seen an unprecedented drop in revenue, with declines beyond what they saw during the Great Depression.

McIntyre said Citizens for Tax Justice and the Institute on Taxation and Economic Policy plan to issue a follow-up report that takes a closer look at state corporate income taxes.

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Joe Padilla
Ever hear of a credit union crisis?
05:55 AM on 11/06/2011
Let's do the right thing and tax imports. I certainly wouldn't care. They could get around it by moving the factories back.
Clevelandinwi
Progressive is good; regressive, not so much.
10:23 AM on 11/05/2011
Most 'small businesses' are bled of their profits by very rich owners who then claim a small business deduction. It's kinda like the estate tax - it is only rare that it hurts a 'small business' owner.
oilfield
large employer per obamacare
06:37 PM on 11/06/2011
the 35% tax hurts small business growth....not to mention if you have several small businesses. you get double taxed if you keep the money in the company for continued growth.
Clevelandinwi
Progressive is good; regressive, not so much.
10:20 AM on 11/05/2011
We seem to be forgetting that most owners of 'small businesses' are among the 'super rich'. Check out the koch bros if you don't believe it.
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12:11 PM on 11/05/2011
You are using the "official" definition of small a small biz which says if there are only a few owners (like two in the case of the Koch Bros.) then it is a small biz regardless of the size, number of workers and revenue. Most people think of small biz as the mom and pop bakery, a mechanic's shop or a small manufacturer with a few employees. The official definition needs to change to be in line with this concept. And most small biz owners are indeed small. I have two small businesses and I will need a 1000 years to make it to the 1%.
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Ralph Gardner
07:16 PM on 11/12/2011
Most of the small business owners with large income are lawyers, consultants, wall street traders and the like.
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Linda Edmondson
wounded warrior.org+ CLICK
02:02 AM on 11/05/2011
The lifes blood of the government is taxes.
Small businesses can not carry the burden of the needs of government a lone. Big business has been legislating around its tax obligations, to gain advantage in loop holes so they pay no taxes and in some cases recieving large tax returns. State governments are burdened with debt, resulting in lay-offs of personal, at all levels.
Repatriation is allowing big business to bring billions of dollars back in the US and only pay small portion of the taxes due, because it has been sitting in a off shore bank. There is nothing patriotic about it! I think its a disgrace, donate it to charity to... Disable American Veterans. That's patriotic!
Just leave it there till it rots. Shame.
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verycold
09:11 PM on 11/04/2011
I have said for years now, that if the tax code was reformed with a corporate tax reduction, many small businesses would see their tax obligation go down, while the big guys would see theirs go up. I am not sure what the final tally would be, meaning more or less revenue, but it would change the ratio of contributions. As a percentage the small business owner is getting whacked with taxes and fees. My family owns businesses and it is fight every day to deal with the state and banking fees. I swear that every week some fee is increased, or a new one imposed. This new credit card fee change is causing a fiasco. I think the problem is that banks are overwhelmed with gimmicks and the right hand doesn't know what the left hand is doing. There is definitely a feeling that everybody, including government, is trying to figure out a way to get some increased revenue.
oilfield
large employer per obamacare
11:16 PM on 11/04/2011
i would be happy if we didnt have to pay both corporate income tax and personal income tax from our companies if we want to keep the money in the companies.
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justanothergrandma
finding my way
01:57 AM on 11/05/2011
If I understand what you are saying..who is your tax accountant? Money in retained earnings in a corporation should not be taxed on a personal tax return. If you are incorporated only those monies you receive as wages or dividends should be taxable on your personal tax return. That is one of the advantages of incorporating.
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02:05 PM on 11/05/2011
Get a new lawyer or acct. of you are paying both corp & personal tax, Consider a subchapter S pr LLC structure.
oilfield
large employer per obamacare
12:20 AM on 11/06/2011
everyone needs more dough......i just dont see why it needs to come out of small businesses pockets....we provide 70+ jobs from 25k a year to 6 figures a year....
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shershomenow
Be part of the solution, not the problem.
08:23 PM on 11/04/2011
I am closing my account at BOA and opening an account on Main St. BoA gets enough of my money through their political buddies... I use quickbooks and found a list of financial institutions that offer Intuit downloads. Here is the Intuit list if any of you want it...
http://web.intuit.com/personal/quicken/results.cfm?type=advanced&product=qb&qwid=qw1700&qmid=qm1600&qbid=qb1800&qbmid=qbm1700&qflmid=
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time2talk
An eye for an eye and we'll all be blind
08:57 PM on 11/04/2011
I did the same and I'm much happier. They really do know your name.
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stratego
12:14 AM on 11/05/2011
It is not hard to do and in our best interest.
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belladio
Not in the mood to suffer fools
08:02 PM on 11/04/2011
Small business owners hardly stand a chance when competing in an economy that is stacked against them and favors the corporate titans. They're absolutely right to ask for a level playing field. I'm so sick of hearing that this goes against capitalism but what we have is clearly not "capitalism" but rather a rigged system that serves the wealthy few above all others.
09:36 PM on 11/04/2011
Why shouldn't the economy favor corporate titans? This isn't the 18th century!
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belladio
Not in the mood to suffer fools
10:19 PM on 11/04/2011
Take a look at global economies and what the titans have done to them and you may possibly see why.
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stratego
12:15 AM on 11/05/2011
Because these "titans" you so trvrtr did it in a system gamed in their favor.
oilfield
large employer per obamacare
11:17 PM on 11/04/2011
a level playing field is what the government's few tasks should be. government regulations tilt it further in the big corporations favor.
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belladio
Not in the mood to suffer fools
01:27 AM on 11/06/2011
You're right about that. We all want clean air, clean water, and food that's safe to eat - of course. But it seems many regulations (i.e. complications involving money) are easy for the corporations to pay for but not at all so much for the small businesses that can be destroyed by regulation$.
07:35 PM on 11/04/2011
It's hilarious how these politicians, in this case Democrats really don't understand what is going on here (same is said of Rs in most cases as well) . . .

You want to know why a GE pays no taxes? Look no further than what your favorite pet projects are Sen Levin . . .

Government wants to subsidize funding for HS rail . . . GE says we'll do that.
Government wants to increase subsidies and tax breaks for everything green . . . GE gets in on that too.
Government wants to subsidize infrastructure projects . . . yup, GE is in on that too.
Government gives a massive subsidy to buy green vehicles . . . GE places an order for 50,000 Chevy Volts so they can write it off with the Obama tax credit

GE just does whatever is going to be the next Government subsidy and yet he's shocked they end up paying no taxes.
oilfield
large employer per obamacare
11:19 PM on 11/04/2011
dont forget the computerized medical records.....the trough has been filled for them to feed.
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stratego
12:19 AM on 11/05/2011
Of course we can't forget that GE and the Koch brothers have bought our political system outright and gamed the government in their favor through the implementation of ALEC legislation pushed by their paid gladiators in the Senate and Congress.
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07:13 PM on 11/04/2011
the fact that these super aggregated transnational corporations exist at all - shows that they have enough influence to get around anti-trust laws that were put in place to protect the public. their scale is designed to be anti-competitive. over concentration of businesses acoross a range of industries are one of the main reason the economy has stagnated.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Concentration_of_media_ownership
http://www.newscientist.com/article/mg21228354.500-revealed--the-capitalist-network-that-runs-the-world.html
http://gawker.com/5856491/heres-your-official-list-of-29-too-big-to-fail-banks

If they can break through these basic public protections - one might expect that they ahve the power to write their own tax code (to help themselves and sabotage competition)

its worth folowing that link
http://ctj.org/ctjreports/2011/11/corporate_taxpayers_corporate_tax_dodgers_2008-2010.php

how do the influence gov? bribes to politicians.
http://www.opensecrets.org/

what else are the bribes good for? making sure they can get away with crime.
http://www.economist.com/blogs/freeexchange/2011/10/accounting
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Ralph Gardner
07:35 PM on 11/12/2011
Really liked the network link. Thanks.
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mmsuki
Fine; I evolved, you didn't.
06:58 PM on 11/04/2011
Sorry, should say *2010*.
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Shadow Diver
When The Going Gets Weird, The Weird Turn Pro
06:57 PM on 11/04/2011
You gotta love it! The people who need the breaks the least always get the most.
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time2talk
An eye for an eye and we'll all be blind
08:52 PM on 11/04/2011
And donate the most to the GOP/TP campaign.
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Joe Padilla
Ever hear of a credit union crisis?
05:58 AM on 11/06/2011
Unless it's Dimon and Immelt
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mmsuki
Fine; I evolved, you didn't.
06:57 PM on 11/04/2011
I have posted this before and will continue to do so:

Back in September of 201, every single republican (and 4 DINOS and Liebermann) Senator voted AGAINST a bill that would punish, taxwise, corporations that outsourced jobs, and reward those that hired in the US.

http://www.accountingtoday.com/news/Anti-Offshoring-Bill-Blocked-Senate-55740-1.html
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time2talk
An eye for an eye and we'll all be blind
08:53 PM on 11/04/2011
If this were brought up for a vote today, I would love to see how the votes stacked up!
11:28 PM on 11/04/2011
Time, I don't see evidence that the votes would change. Congress knows OWS is out there and the rightwingers have softened their tone toward it a bit, but I watch Congress in action on C-Span every day, and I see no evidence that anything has changed in how they conduct business or in their ideology.

Wait until the Super Committee finishes cutting Medicare and Medicaid, not to mention a variety of other safety net programs. The, if seniors don't come out en masse, I won't understand why.
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stratego
12:22 AM on 11/05/2011
Now, we don't want to go around obfuscating their lies with the truth, do we?
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Lakshmi0000
06:33 PM on 11/04/2011
Give the 99% tax loophole breaks....because they are people too!....
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Robert Fanney
Scribbler
06:16 PM on 11/04/2011
Absolutely. We need to level the playing field a little more. We need to stop the banks trading mortgages as paper as well. Tax the rich! Reinstate Glass Steagall.

http://www.change.org/petitions/the-us-senate-reinstate-glass-steagall
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Karma2U
Blessed are the Peacemakers
06:13 PM on 11/04/2011
The 1% has been living on the backs of the real working people of the 99%. The 1% are the ones who take handouts and give very little, and they are too greedy and blind to see that they are the problem and without the 99% - they are nothing. Boycott everything that you can!

This worst congress in history is also a big part of the problem and they will do nothing for the American 99%. Occupy the voting booths!
oilfield
large employer per obamacare
11:21 PM on 11/04/2011
there is a difference between individuals and multinational corporations....i have a few friends that are 1%ers and they dont do anything different from the next guy...they also have 33% effective tax rates or somewhere close.