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Mississippi 'Personhood' Amendment Vote Fails

EMILY WAGSTER PETTUS   11/ 8/11 11:17 PM ET   AP

JACKSON, Miss. — Mississippi voters Tuesday defeated a ballot initiative that would've declared life begins at fertilization, a proposal that supporters sought in the Bible Belt state as a way to prompt a legal challenge to abortion rights nationwide.

The so-called "personhood" initiative was rejected by more than 55 percent of voters, falling far short of the threshold needed for it to be enacted. If it had passed, it was virtually assured of drawing legal challenges because it conflicts with the Supreme Court's 1973 Roe v. Wade decision that established a legal right to abortion. Supporters of the initiative wanted to provoke a lawsuit to challenge the landmark ruling.

The measure divided the medical and religious communities and caused some of the most ardent abortion opponents, including Republican Gov. Haley Barbour, to waver with their support.

Opponents said the measure would have made birth control, such as the morning-after pill or the intrauterine device, illegal. More specifically, the ballot measure called for abortion to be prohibited "from the moment of fertilization" – wording that opponents suggested would have deterred physicians from performing in vitro fertilization because they would fear criminal charges if an embryo doesn't survive.

Supporters were trying to impose their religious beliefs on others by forcing women to carry unwanted pregnancies, including those caused by rape or incest, opponents said.

Amy Brunson voted against the measure, in part because she has been raped. She also has friends and family that had children through in vitro fertilization and she was worried this would end that process.

"The lines are so unclear on what may or may not happen. I think there are circumstances beyond everybody's control that can't be regulated through an amendment," said Brunson, a 36-year-old dog trainer and theater production assistant from Jackson.

Hubert Hoover, a cabinet maker and construction worker, voted for the amendment.

"I figure you can't be half for something, so if you're against abortion you should be for this. You've either got to be wholly for something or wholly against it," said Hoover, 71, who lives in a Jackson suburb.

Mississippi already has tough abortion regulations and only one clinic where the procedures are performed, making it a fitting venue for a national movement to get abortion bans into state constitutions.

Keith Mason, co-founder of the group Personhood USA, which pushed the Mississippi ballot measure, has said a win would send shockwaves around the country. The Colorado-based group is trying to put similar initiatives on 2012 ballots in Florida, Montana, Ohio and Oregon. Voters in Colorado rejected similar proposals in 2008 and 2010.

Barbour, long considered a 2012 presidential candidate before he ruled out a run this year, said a week ago that he was undecided. A day later, he voted absentee for the amendment, but said he struggled with his support.

"Some very strongly pro-life people have raised questions about the ambiguity and about the actual consequences – whether there are unforeseen, unintended consequences. And I'll have to say that I have heard those concerns and they give me some pause," Barbour said last week.

Barbour was prevented from seeking re-election because of term limits. The Democrat and Republican candidates vying to replace him both supported the abortion measure.

Specifically, the proposed state constitutional amendment would've defined a person "to include every human being from the moment of fertilization, cloning, or the functional equivalent thereof."

The state's largest Christian denomination, the Mississippi Baptist Convention, backed the proposal through its lobbying arm.

The bishops of the Episcopal Diocese of Mississippi and the General Conference of the United Methodist Church opposed it.

Bishop Joseph Latino of the Catholic Diocese of Jackson, a church traditionally against abortion, issued a statement neither supporting nor opposing the initiative. The Mississippi State Medical Association took a similar step, while other medical groups opposed it.

Mississippi already requires parental or judicial consent for any minor to get an abortion, mandatory in-person counseling and a 24-hour wait before any woman can terminate a pregnancy.

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Romney's position on abortion and other women's health issues switched from pro-choice to anti-choice during his term as governor from 2003 to 2007, and his record on choice-related issues is mixed. He vetoed a measure that would have allowed pharmacists to dispense emergency contraception without a prescription to rape victims, but he signed into law a measure to expand family planning services for low-income women and families in Massachusetts.

Romney was also one of the few GOP candidates who refused to sign the Susan B. Anthony List's pro-life pledge, because his camp said it could have some "potentially unforeseen consequences." But he believes abortion should only be legal in cases of rape, incest or to save the life of the mother, and he said if he were president he would support the reversal of Roe v. Wade.

"This is not the time for the Republican Party to put up a candidate who is weak on the pro-life issue or has a history of flip-flopping over it," Bachmann said of Romney at a National Right to Life convention in June.

Romney said as president he would defund Planned Parenthood, and then took it even further saying he'd "get rid of that" altogether.
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dixdarlin
05:53 PM on 11/14/2011
The average woman is born with 400,000 eggs.
of all the fertalized ovum 60% will not "take root" in the womb., Regardless of Pills etc... They are not adults, they are dividing cells with the potential to be a human, but certainly not a person.
Best southern joke..."just 'cause your cat has kittens in your oven it don't make 'em bisquits"
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Donald Kinge
03:25 PM on 11/14/2011
"I figure you can't be half for something, so if you're against abortion you should be for this. You've either got to be wholly for something or wholly against it," said Hoover, 71

Meanwhile in reality we don't live in a black and white world.
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omobob
left coast, usa
03:26 PM on 11/13/2011
> Bachmann has cast 12 votes on reproductive rights issues during her four years in the House, and all were anti-abortion. She voted in favor of the Stupak amendment, which would ban the insurance coverage of abortion in the new health system; she co-sponsored two bills that force women to hear state-mandated lectures 24 hours prior to having an abortion; and she vowed to defund Planned Parenthood if she became president.

As backwards a method of courting the women’s vote by a female politician as I have ever seen. Bachmann seems is out to vilify pregnant women, raise their misery index and have the State take over responsibility for the fetus. Of course once the fetus is born, Bachmann and her ilk lose all interest.
06:17 AM on 11/13/2011
As backward as the southern states seem to be they finally got something correct
04:06 PM on 11/14/2011
Unfortunately, rather than a step forward, it's simply the prevention of a large step back...
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unimatrix0
04:10 AM on 11/13/2011
Laws based on emotions and not logical application is not good. This bill said a fertilized egg is entitled to all the rights and protections granted in the Constitution and Bill of Rights including the 14th Amendment. This means if an illegal allien got pregnant on US soil, her egg (US citizen) could not be deported. Now all women will need pregnancy tests before deportation.
If this law had passed, equal rights means a fertilized egg is a tax deduction. People lied about how many dependants they had before children were required to have a SS# for taxes, so now how many will lie about being pregnant in December for taxes, an then have a nice convienient spontanious abortion provided by nature. A couple having invetrofertilization could have hundreds of frozen fertilized eggs. All tax deductible and dependants for insurance. Do we really want a 100 person plan?
Are pregnant woman banned from smoking and drinking since children can not be served these products. Children are also banned from bars, adult book stores, and military service, and the fetus is now a live US citizen with equal rights and protection as all other children. How do we issue a passport to a fetus?
This bill was flawed from the begining, and thank goodness the people of Mississippi saw that. If you do not breath air, you are not a human in my book.
The logistics of this bill is so messy that lawyers would have a field day.
02:56 AM on 12/02/2011
You do realize that oxygen circulates to the child through the mothers umbilical cord and placenta, which it needs as surely as you do. I don't support this bill, because an egg cannot feel, has no emotions, and no thought process, so obviously life doesn't begin there; however, I do believe that abortion itself is murder because, a fetus does have the capability to do all of these things, even if they're in a limited capacity.
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freddsky
Thorstein Veblen'd be proud, if only he were alive
11:47 AM on 11/12/2011
And the Gods of Personhood said, Here is Mississippi. There is Plenty O Crazy here and that is good. Here we plant our first little tree. But what the Gods of Personhood overlooked is that Plenty O Crazy often goes with Plenty O Fear. You can be squallin' your eyes out in a revival meeting one minute and ruttin' in a ditch the very next. Where are you less likely to be seen? Show a Mississippian a secret ballot (or that nice Dr. Kinsey with a clipboard) and you'll be surprised what spills!
10:09 AM on 11/12/2011
My faith has been restored in the American people. Thank you Mississippi. But the battle has just begun.
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starmanx
beam me up, Scotty
11:12 PM on 12/27/2011
Does Bellevue know that you're AWOL?
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tjdwill02
There is no free lunch
09:18 AM on 11/12/2011
So if Personhood starts in the womb, does that mean that pregnant women should be arrest for " child endangerment " , because they smoked or drank ?
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sheahananne2
"Easy boys, Daddy's working."
06:09 PM on 11/11/2011
Part I
I find it rather insulting that the Huffington Post's Ms. Bassett would dare to comment that the people in Mississippi did not pay enough attention, soon enough, concerning Initiative 26. While I tend to agree that too many did not understand everything that was at stake should this bill be passed; there were many of us "in the trenches" once Mr. Riley and Mr. Mason of Personhood USA turned their sights on this conservative, Bible belt state in the Deep South. Generalizations, such as Ms. Bassett made, are not only insulting but rather ignorant. If she had done any research within her own employer's data bases, she would have seen many of us who have been explaining, teaching, and fighting against Initiative 26, in comment posts, facebook connections through HP, etc. The problem, the reason that Initiative 26 got as far as making it onto the ballot, had more to do with hiding the "fine print" and making the Initiative seem no more than a "yes" or "no" vote for abortion. However, I am very proud of the state of Mississippi for, however belatedly, realizing just what Initiative 26 was all about. I am sure I was not the only female, in the state of Mississippi, holding my breath until that final count was released! Personhood USA tried to bamboozle the voters of Mississippi, and was positive that they could realize the passing of the bill in this conservative and religious state.
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sheahananne2
"Easy boys, Daddy's working."
06:08 PM on 11/11/2011
Part II
I am very happy that sense prevailed. Unfortunately, it will not stop here. As anyone can see, from the comments of our presidential candidates above, they are all more insidiously anti-choice and, in my opinion, anti-women - and that includes the lone female candidate who should be ashamed to link her name with anything that negates the rights of women. I don't care what her moral beliefs are, I don't care what anyone's moral beliefs are about this subject, and we are all entitled to make our own choice. It is rather obvious why the male candidates are so vocal in their opposition to abortion - they have obviously never had to deal with a rape that result in a pregnancy, incest that results in pregnancy, or choosing between the life of their wives or the life of non-viable products of conception. In other words, the "cells" have more rights that a living, breathing female - mother to the rest of their living, breathing children. It takes all kinds...
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Carolab
Just another hostage of the poopy heads
05:30 PM on 11/11/2011
You know, this is really amazing. If Mississippi voted this way, I guess there is hope we really can get an amendment to repeal "Citizen's United". And all that talk about repealing Roe v. Wade is not representative of the nation's electorate at all, either.
07:30 AM on 11/12/2011
There is no chance of a repeal of "Citizen's United" because that ruling says all votes can be bought by corporations, and they will most certainly buy any election that would do away with their right to buy elections.

The curious thing about "Citizen's United" is whether the American people will object when their government is bought by the Chinese government -- except they wont know that it happened.
04:55 PM on 11/11/2011
So if it was passed would that mean everyone in Miss. would be 9 mos older? That would be great it would lower the retirement age and lower the drinking age. And just how would we know when conception occured? would we get a conception certificate instead of a birth certificate? Does think about the concept of have a kid equal "conception"?
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Homer Zerrudo
Happy (or trying for it)..
02:25 PM on 11/11/2011
My response to these religious zealots is this - "Why do you want keep on shoving religion down our throat? Is it to "save our souls" or so you could just make the point hat you are right and I'm wrong?

If it's the first reason, honestly, if being "saved" means going to the same heaven with you, I'm going to pass. Besides, wouldn't you prefer for heaven to be uncrowded? Or are you apprehensive that your heaven's population will be mostly just you?

If it's the second reason - why be so needful of validation?
08:49 PM on 11/11/2011
The "...religious zealots..." of whom you speak, probably aren't religious, but rather zealots who take religious text, and twist it to fit whatever their agenda is, at the time. Huge difference. I grew up protestant; most families during my youth went to church, although not necessarily the same denomination as mine. I don't recall such hate mongering in our Services. Mostly the sermons seemed to drag, as they often do for young children, but Sunday school was okay. After services, people stayed and socialized, and occasionally retired to the basement to make coffee and tea, and maybe passed out cookies, if we kids were lucky. There was no fire and brimstone; no hatred and condemnation. These were just neighbourhood folks who tried hard to live good lives, the way they thought best. I don't think that every reference to God, is an attempt to shove religion down your throat. You won't be happy until every last vestige of religion is eradicated from this earth; how is that not cramming your atheistic philiosophies down my throat?
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sheahananne2
"Easy boys, Daddy's working."
10:44 PM on 11/11/2011
Averagedancer, I don't think "Homer" is trying to cram any philosophies down your throat; religious or atheistic. I think the point here is, the few are trying to cram their moral beliefs on the many. One person's idea of what is or is not moral, is not the same as anyone else's idea of morality. Sure, I would love to see our elected government officials behave in a moralistic manner. If they did, then they would be more concerned about the living, breathing pregnant woman who got that way through rape or incest; they would be more concerned about the life of the living, breathing, viable mother - who may have more living, breathing, viable children at home - than they are about non-viable products of conception. But they are not. Their "concern" is not based on what is or is not moral; their concern is based on what is or is not moral in the eyes of their religious beliefs - and that is where the trouble lies. Religious beliefs, doctrine, and dogma have not previously nor should presently, have any influence on our political legislation. To choose to have an abortion is a right; to choose not to have an abortion is also a right, but usually the latter choice is based on a personal view of what is morally right for that individual. It's really that easy.
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Homer Zerrudo
Happy (or trying for it)..
07:44 AM on 11/12/2011
Defensive much? Did you feel that I was referring to you personally when I wrote my comment. All I can say is: Honey, if the shoe fits..

My belief in the zygoteness of a zygote has nothing to do with cramming my "atheistic" philosophies down your throat
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joeyfoto
“Écraser l'infamie!”
02:08 PM on 11/11/2011
Good for Mississippi — except for the 45% of Mississippi who voted for this insane proposition and newly elected Republican governor who said that the NO vote was a vote for Satan...

I'd say Mississippi has a way to go to be in the forefront of America in categories other than syphilis (I know MS is now up to 8th) and illiteracy (yes, I know they've made great strides to go from 25% illiteracy to 16%... but...). Mississippi has never recovered from the end of slavery... and never really responded to reconstruction.

Only 40% of Mississippi Republicans think that interracial marriage should be legal — in 2011! No state with those values should ever have been allowed to return to the Union. If that's America then Americans need to be ashamed.
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Donald Kinge
03:35 PM on 11/14/2011
This is why we need to better fund our education departments (unlike Rick Perry who wants to ELIMINATE the dept. of Ed.). These people are the most uneducated Americans and their wildly out of touch beliefs reflect that.
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joeyfoto
“Écraser l'infamie!”
04:13 PM on 11/14/2011
Sadly, Donald, as much as I agree with that, there is another element in the Deep South that I didn't understand until I lived there. The terrible truth is that despite the fact that there are many wonderful people there, bigotry runs very deep in the culture and many people are attached to it, in ways that education, too frequently, does not change.

Better available education is the right medicine for the country to apply; it will help but unfortunately there is a certain faith in ignorance that education won't fix.
04:14 PM on 11/14/2011
"ELIMINATE the dept. of Ed"

Only if he can remember it...
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joeyfoto
“Écraser l'infamie!”
01:56 PM on 11/11/2011
Religious zealots are like vampires. Stopping them demands very specific weapons.

Much like the global struggle against Islamist terrorists, the best weapon against Fundamentalist Christian terrorists is enlightened co-religionists, with the courage to confront the delusions and distortions of demagogues.

Until the mass of mainstream Christians stand up to these fanatics, these assaults on sanity will continue.