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Italy Default Fears Grow As Borrowing Costs Rise

Italy Default

Posted: 11/09/11 07:10 PM ET

Market confidence in Italy's ability to pay its bills faded quickly on Wednesday, and experts warn that fears of Italian default could weigh heavily on the U.S. economy as it fights against a renewed economic downturn.

Interest rates on 10-year Italian bonds rose above 7 percent on Wednesday to a euro-era high, increasing by almost a full percentage point from Tuesday's rates. While the European Central Bank may yet step in to buy Italy's debt, allowing the nation to keep making payments on its current debt load, some economists say that it is becoming increasingly likely for Italy to default, dragging Europe and the United States into recession anew.

Italian Prime Minister Silvio Berlusconi, who has failed to fulfill his promises to European leaders to slash his government's massive debt, vowed Tuesday to step down once the Italian parliament has passed austerity measures. But that did not stop investors from demanding higher interest rates from Italy on Wednesday as fears mounted that an Italian default could freeze lending and send banks falling like dominoes.

"This is exponentially more serious than Lehman Brothers," said Bernard Baumohl, chief global economist at the Economic Outlook Group. "The exposure of the global banking system is much greater, and there is really a lack of any solution to this."

Nariman Behravesh, chief economist at the economic forecasting firm IHS Global Insight, estimated a 15- to 20-percent chance that Italy will default on its debt, which he said would cause bank runs, a credit crunch and a year-plus-long recession in Europe, leading to a recession in the United States that would send unemployment over 10 percent, he said.

Investors around the world panicked in response to the spike in Italian interest rates. The S&P 500 plummeted 3.67 percent, the DAX in Germany fell 2.21 percent and the value of the euro plunged 2 percent against the dollar. Bank stocks also took a beating, as shares for Goldman Sachs fell 8.21 percent, JPMorgan Chase stocks fell 7.08 percent and Morgan Stanley shares plunged 9.01 percent.

Economists say borrowing costs are a leading factor in Italy's possible default. Beyond the nation's staggering debt and its own economic contraction, Behravesh attributed the spike in those costs to political dysfunction in Europe. Italy will become much more likely to default, he said, if the interest rate on its debt rises above 8 percent.

The wider European bank failure likely sparked by an Italian default would likely cause other troubled countries in the euro zone -- such as Spain, Portugal and Greece -- to miss their debt payments, some economists say, as the other nations' higher borrowing costs make their debt burdens likewise unsustainable. Before long, the whole of Europe could be plunged into recession.

And that plunge would make wider waves. At 27 percent of the global economy, the European Union is the world's largest player, according to IHS Global Insight, and economists fear a deep recession in Europe would drag the rest of the world down, too.

Baumohl said that if Italy defaults on its debt, the United States would fall back into recession because exports to Europe would slow, banks would be forced to take losses on their European loans and debt insurance, and U.S. banks would tighten lending.

Behravesh said he expects the European Central Bank to come to the rescue. The ECB most likely will print more money to buy Italian bonds, he said, to allow Italy to keep financing its debt, and European leaders will probably boost the size of the European Financial Stability Facility, the euro bailout fund, to an amount that can at least calm markets.

"The ECB now is the only thing standing between Europe and the precipice, so in the end the Germans will come around," Behravesh said.

Borrowing costs for Italy would fall if the country implements the necessary budget cuts and structural reforms to allow its economy to grow and make its debt burden more sustainable, said Sung Won Sohn, an economist at California State University.

But Italy seems increasingly unable to address the crisis on its own. Since the country's liberal opposition party is "very beholden to unions" and the nation is entering a recession, it would be difficult for the government to implement the structural economic reforms and budget cuts necessary to reassure investors and lower interest rates, Behravesh said. Moreover, as the Italian economy shrinks, budget cuts are likely to worsen the economy and debt burden as taxpayers' incomes fall, he said.

An Italian default would endanger French banks the most, since they have invested $106.8 billion in Italian sovereign debt, according to the Bank for International Settlements. U.S. banks have invested $12.9 billion in Italian sovereign debt, which they would lose if Italy defaults.

Some economists say that it is also unlikely for Italy to abandon the euro, since the value of the Italian lira would plummet in the international markets. The rush to move Italian money elsewhere would crater the nation's banks people, rendering the move counterproductive, said New York University economist Nicholas Economides.

Stronger European economies might leave the euro if Italy defaults, however, a scenario that some economists see as more threatening. If banks holding European sovereign debt fail absent needed capital, the broader European economy would shrink sharply, endangering the stability of the euro zone as a whole, the economists warn.

Behravesh said he expects European leaders to strive to avoid a scenario in which Italy leaves the euro, which would likely precipitate a series of similar departures. After borrowing costs spike for other countries, he said, the temptation for them to devalue their own currencies to have cheaper exports and a cheaper sovereign debt burden would be irresistible.

"If Italy leaves, it's all over for the European experiment, as far as I'm concerned," Behravesh said.

Reuters reported on Wednesday that German and French leaders have discussed creating a smaller euro zone made up of stronger economies.

Behravesh said that while he can't imagine that European leaders have seriously discussed removing Italy from the euro zone, such "really irresponsible" political discussions are contributing to higher interest rates for Italy.

"That's not even playing with fire," he said. "It's playing with dynamite."

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Market confidence in Italy's ability to pay its bills faded quickly on Wednesday, and experts warn that fears of Italian default could weigh heavily on the U.S. economy as it fights against a renewed ...
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Moxo
Our enemies are in the GOP.
06:29 PM on 11/12/2011
Moxo
Our enemies are in the GOP.
1015 Fans
17 hours ago (1:46 AM)
Sadly you haven't read the reports that show government workers earn some 26% less than their corporate counterpar­ts. And don't forget, it was corporatio­ns in the guise of Banks, mortgage lenders, Wall Street Hedgefunds and insurance providers to those same institutio­ns that crashed the economy in 2007 and 2008. No American government has crashed Wall Street - Capitalist­s did that!
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MICHAEL5555 REPLIED TO MY POST:

“Governemt workers do not earn some 26 % less than their corporate counterpar­ts. This is pointless trying to have a sensible discussion with you. I, ME, sit there and cross the divide and say we have TWO problems yet YOU are still unable to discuss logically and sensibly. You are way too obsessed with your anger towards the right to talk senesibly.”

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Federal employees make average 26 percent less than private workers, Labor agency reports
By Eric Yoder
The federal government reported Friday that on average its employees are underpaid by 26.3 percent when compared with similar non-federal jobs, a “pay gap” that increased by about 2 percentage points over the last year while federal salary rates were frozen.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/federal-eye/post/federal-employees-make-average-26-percent-less-than-private-workers-labor-agency-reports/2011/11/04/gIQAse5emM_blog.html

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03:47 PM on 11/11/2011
Italy may take the same road as Iceland. http://politicalirony.com/2011/08/24/why-iceland-is-not-in-the-news-anymore/
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Moxo
Our enemies are in the GOP.
10:44 PM on 11/10/2011
denny8844
Commented 9 hours ago in Business

“Did you sleep thru arithmetic or something, What did I say? In 20 years the percentage­­s of Reagan will mean nothing. The Dems will be remembered for their failed Liberal programs that put us into debtor status. Does anyone care that Carter increased spending in 4 years by 68%? Of course not because it was a small number. It is all about scale. Obama increased debt by $9 Trillion and Reagan increased debt by $1.4 Trillion. Who will be blamed by future generation­­s for adding to the debt more. Simple answer-Oba­­ma”
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By the way, Obama still hasn't added as much to the debt as Dub did! And he hasn't had to bail out the banks and Wall Street either!

You really should do some research, especially when you are told he has added 9 Trillion.
02:57 PM on 11/11/2011
Try a new skill, like reading comprehension, in my previous post I said depending on how long Obama was in office and if he is in 8 years at the current rate the $9 Trillion is conservative
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Moxo
Our enemies are in the GOP.
04:18 PM on 11/11/2011
Speaking of reading comprehension, you wrote, "Obama increased debt by $9 Trillion and Reagan increased debt by $1.4 Trillion."

What do you not understand about using present tense or future tense? saying " Obama increased debt by $9 Trillion" indicates he has already increased it.

By the way, what are the future costs of Dub's two unpaid for wars and his unpaid for Medicare Plan D boondoggle?
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Moxo
Our enemies are in the GOP.
10:42 PM on 11/10/2011
denny8844
Commented 9 hours ago in Business

“Did you sleep thru arithmetic or something, What did I say? In 20 years the percentage­s of Reagan will mean nothing. The Dems will be remembered for their failed Liberal programs that put us into debtor status. Does anyone care that Carter increased spending in 4 years by 68%? Of course not because it was a small number. It is all about scale. Obama increased debt by $9 Trillion and Reagan increased debt by $1.4 Trillion. Who will be blamed by future generation­s for adding to the debt more. Simple answer-Oba­ma”
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You really do need to research the Talking Points your owner gives you!
Carter increased the debt by 288 Billion, with a -3.3% decrease in the debt/GDP.

Reagan in his first term increased the debt by 823 Billion, with a debt/GDP increase of 11.3%
In his 2nd term Reagan added 1.05 Trillion, an increase of 9.35 debt/GDP.

GHW Bush added 1.483 Trillion. with a +135 debt/GDP

Then came your beloved GW Bush... added 2.135 Trillionin his 1st term, a +7.1% hit to the debt/GDP, and in his 2nd. term added 4.512 Trillion to the National Debt, a whopping 20.7 INCREASE in the debt/GDP!!

So when you talk about in "20 years the percentage­s of Reagan will mean nothing."... you forgot to factor in GHW and GW Bush into you equation!
NoBlueDogs
FIGHT Offshoring!!!
01:14 PM on 11/10/2011
I hope this leads to a total currency collapse, worldwide. That'll flush out the Plutocrats­.
Linda from Deerfield
Paying attention
08:34 AM on 11/10/2011
Here in the United States, when a major disaster strikes an area, instead of facing the devastating interest rates that financial wolves would naturally impose on the struggling victims, the federal government typically offers zero or very low interest loans. It is a great and proper investment of taxpayer funds -- I've never heard of any evidence that it doesn't pay.

This does not seem to be a concept appreciated by the new Europe, but worse, neither the U.S. nor Europe seem to have grasped how a broad financial disaster creates victims who will struggle and fail if they are left to the financial wolves, just the same as with a natural disaster. I feel like I'm watching a train wreck in slow motion.
schatsie
banks are more dangerous than standing armies
08:32 AM on 11/10/2011
See this about Sweden's banking system

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2011-11-09/sweden-prime-minister-proving-tough-love-of-banks-a-model-for-debt-crisis.html

Now this Swedish PM is a real Conservative who does not believe that the 1% is entitled to rape and pillage repeatedly without any responsibility or consequences....
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MSROADKILL612
am not convinced geothermal energy is above ground
07:30 AM on 11/10/2011
its fairly clear in hindsight what went wrong - corrupt manyana type economies in bed w/ well run straight laced ones was never going to work - they retained their sovereignty & refused nor were expected any financial discipline - typical political bureaucracy - a camel is a horse designed by a committee - painful - but good riddance to both the system and the pitiful bureaucrats responsible
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MSROADKILL612
am not convinced geothermal energy is above ground
07:19 AM on 11/10/2011
i tally - yeah right
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MSROADKILL612
am not convinced geothermal energy is above ground
07:18 AM on 11/10/2011
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just kidding
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joeisright
Semper Fi
07:06 AM on 11/10/2011
If Greek voters choose yes, they face short and medium term pain, in the form of a vastly smaller state and longer term pain, by being hooked to the Euro. They could take a bitter pill of reducing their failed democratic socialist state and become a reformed, free market economy that is competitive, following the reforms of its northern neighbours (e.g Bulgaria). However, I wouldn't count on it.
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06:26 AM on 11/10/2011
This is the most significant story of today, but I guess the imminent collapse of the global financial system is nothing compared to some guy saying (with a stupid look on his face) "Well I don't know what the third department I want to eliminate is."

You can rely on the MSM to keep you misinformed and distracted; it's cheaper and more pleasing to the oligarchs than actual investigations that uncover embarrassing facts would be.
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Fi
"We are all the sons & daughters of Chaos"
05:04 AM on 11/10/2011
Ask the Vatican to help you out, they're loaded?
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MSROADKILL612
am not convinced geothermal energy is above ground
07:06 AM on 11/10/2011
your body is a temple, but dont let any priests enter it
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themodernleader
04:43 AM on 11/10/2011
The ongoing battle in the Western world is between an emerging oligarchy represented by crooked big banking and their lenders and the membership of bankrupted nations. Meanwhile China looks on in exhilaration and anticipation fort he moment to come to the rescue and place the western nations under the control of Chinese mercantilism and empire. The western democracies are no more.
04:11 AM on 11/10/2011
hmmmm Athens and Rome build Western civilization now we have to fear they will end it.