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Air Pollution Divides: Republicans Rebel At Rand Paul Bill To Make Their States The 'Tailpipe'

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Posted: 11/10/11 08:05 AM ET

WASHINGTON -- This time, a Tea Party-backed measure to let pollution increase in the name of saving jobs is running into Republican opposition. It's coming from East Coast senators, who are not keen on Midwestern power plants fouling their air.

Republicans in the House have passed numerous bills over the past year aimed at gutting the Environmental Protection Agency and anti-pollution protections, including at least 170 separate votes targeting environmental regulations. A number of these bills made it to the Senate and failed there amid filibusters.

On Thursday, Sen. Rand Paul (R-Ky.) is set to bring up a new piece of legislation that needs just a simple majority to pass -- and it probably would if it weren't for a number of Republicans who approve of air pollution limits under an enhanced version of a Bush-era clean air rule.

Paul's measure is an attempt to halt the EPA's cross-state air pollution rule, a court-ordered refinement of a similar rule first written in 2005. His bill invokes the Congressional Review Act, which allows the Senate to reject new federal rules with a simple majority vote, instead of the usual 60-vote threshold that is now virtually required in the Senate.

Paul's legislation has attracted several Democrats -- including Sens. Mary Landrieu of Louisiana and Joe Manchin of West Virginia -- which would give the bill a shot if it weren't for Republicans in states that would be victimized by the fallout.

"New Hampshire is a downwind state ... and I think it's very important that we're not the tailpipe for out-of-state power plants," said Sen. Kelly Ayotte (R-N.H.), another Tea Party favorite, after the GOP policy caucus on Tuesday. "It's essentially pollution coming into New Hampshire."

She was not alone in her objections. Sen. Lamar Alexander (R-Tenn.) took to the Senate floor to complain about Paul's move.

"Tennesseans admire much about our Kentucky neighbors. We admire their bluegrass, we admire their basketball, we admire their distinguished senators," Alexander said. "But Tennesseans don't want Kentucky's state income tax, and we don't want Kentucky's dirty air."

Alexander noted that the reason for the cross-state air pollution rule was that states like Tennessee and North Carolina had sued and won.

Paul and other opponents of the rule argue that it will cost $2.4 billion for power companies to comply and will destroy jobs at a time when the economy is struggling. They also say it sets overly ambitious goals and imposes an unreasonable time frame for compliance.

The Obama administration's energy and climate adviser, Heather Zichal, has argued that the flip side of the corporate cost is that scientists believe 34,000 people will die prematurely every year if the rule is blocked.

Environmental advocates find the calculus by the rule's opponents unsupportable and short-sighted.

"These health safeguards will deliver up to $280 billion in annual benefits to the American people, compared to $2.4 billion in compliance costs to polluting coal-burning power plants, yielding benefits that outweigh costs by an astonishing 116 to 1," wrote John Walke of the National Resources Defense Council on his blog.

"Many politicians and industry lobbyists claim to support benefit-cost analysis; how much would health benefits to Americans have to outweigh polluter compliance costs before Senator Paul and his resolution's co-sponsors would support clean air safeguards? 200 to 1? 500 to 1?" Walke asked.

Should Paul cobble together enough Democrats to make up for the loss of Republicans -- an unlikely feat -- the White House has threatened to veto the bill.

The bigger fear of environmental advocates is that such a measure could wind up in a must-pass piece of legislation, such as the super committee's budget-cutting plan.


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WASHINGTON -- This time, a Tea Party-backed measure to let pollution increase in the name of saving jobs is running into Republican opposition. It's coming from East Coast senators, who are not keen o...
WASHINGTON -- This time, a Tea Party-backed measure to let pollution increase in the name of saving jobs is running into Republican opposition. It's coming from East Coast senators, who are not keen o...
 
 
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11:11 AM on 12/07/2011
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Michael Myer
04:15 AM on 11/17/2011
These POLITICIANS and everyone else should recognize the following: These dirty power plants are making people sick and killing people. Updating and replacing them will save lives. EVEN BETTER, putting new scrubbers and pollution controls on power plants = more jobs. Building new up-to-date power plants and shuttering the antiques = jobs. More jobs during hard times -- what a windfall for cleaning-up these "DEATH-PLANTS"???
But the risk is that the plants will be in new locations -- due to tax and other regulatory benefits in other places -- e.g. Mexico, or Canada even. If Congressmen were sincere in doing what is best for the American Citizens in general -- Congress would-- regulate where the new plants would be built as they phase out the old plants (e.g. within 50 miles of the old plant) -- and could / should give incentives to hire the old workers at the new plants. That would also protect the viability of the present energy grid.
BUT, whose best-interest are they serving -- e.g. WHICH LOBBYIST?!?!? Utility industry? Coal industry??? Energy Industry??? Oil Industry?? Natural Gas Industry???? Some wanting the status quo, and others wanting plants closed, in favor of new plants using their fuel and/ or in their states. What happened to the statesmen of the past?!?!?! That would do the right thing for the citizens???
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Michael Myer
11:27 AM on 11/16/2011
Joseph Manchin, IV -- Joe Manchin -- is the President of Enersystems, Inc., of Fairmont, WV. Type of Business: Coal Brokerage. (google it or check the WV Secretary of State website) . They sell coal to power plants. If there are less coal-fired power plants (which are targeted by this Bill), his business sells less coal. He also had or has an interest in a small coal-fired and coal-refuse-fired power plant near Granttown, WV -- it would have to be updated or upgraded to comply with any more stringent laws, at significant costs. Do you wonder why this DEMOCRAT is voting against an environmental bill?
03:38 AM on 11/14/2011
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Love, Tolerance, Enlightenment
10:47 PM on 11/12/2011
OMG! some Republicans have realized they breath air!

Time to democratize the Senate: Either votes proportional to population, or number of senators proportional to population. No more house of lords.

Vote out the DINOs in the dems primaries, vote for the Kucinich, Warren, Grayson CPC progressives.

Then vote Dems in the general, including Obama, since the GOP are Tories.
07:56 PM on 11/12/2011
I think Rand Paul is in over his head. I don't see any stong aptitude for the job or ushering in issues from him. And he is anything but charming. I don't even feel competency from him at a general level. He's in the wrong place at the wrong time. For an opthalmologist he seems to be antiscientific and not strong on logic. He seems to take an almost autistic approach to issues, ones that really don't resonate with anyone but himself. He doesn't strike me as someone who would help a person in need either. What on earth is he even in congress for? This is where an antagonized constituency can make poor political choices and thus pay for their mistake for 4 long years where nothing gets done in their name. Even his sound bites are nondescript yet mildly disturbing and he smiles or smirks at that as his modus of communications, but there is nothing really cute or engaging there.
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Watching rock grow
FE = Iron, and Female = Iron Male :)
03:51 PM on 11/13/2011
And some folks believe his father has all the answers.
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re-elect clinton
23 million jobs in 8 years!
07:14 PM on 11/12/2011
If I was the leader of Iran and I saw this guy on c span. I would order a attack the next day.
12:44 AM on 11/13/2011
Even the leader of Iran's infant grandchildren are smarter than that. And that is the reason even your own dog does not pay attention to you.
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AuldLochinvar
11:44 PM on 11/13/2011
Sorry, nope. I'm a dyed-in-the-wool Democrat, but one of the biggest energy mistakes made in the last few decades was the cancelling of the Integral Fast Reactor project by Clinton, Kerry, and O'Leary in 1994. It had shown itself to be a design that got about a hundred times as much energy from a ton of uranium as current generation 2 designs, producing a waste that is a hundredth as much by mass, and a thousand times shorter in lifetime, and proved its meltdown-proof design by actual test, a week or so before Chernobyl, and 42 years before Fukushima.
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GrumpyinAZ
My opinion is worth every penny you paid for it
06:23 PM on 11/12/2011
Acid Rain Anyone?
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Watching rock grow
FE = Iron, and Female = Iron Male :)
03:53 PM on 11/13/2011
Well my friend at least acid rain produces more jobs, car repairs, home repair, road repairs, and business repairs, new clothes and shoes! The list can go on and on.
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AuldLochinvar
11:45 PM on 11/13/2011
Yep. That's the flaw under all those promises of job creation. The whole point of the Industrial Revolution was to release "us" from drudgery.
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Michael Myer
11:50 AM on 11/16/2011
Putting new scrubbers and pollution controls on power plants = more jobs. Building new up-to-date power plants and shuttering the antiques = jobs. But the risk is that the plants will be in new locations -- due to tax and other regulatory benefits in other places -- e.g. Mexico, or Canada even. What Congress needs to do -- regulate where the new plants would be built as they phase out the old plants -- could / should give incentives to hire the old workers at the new plants,
Saltheplumber
Thank Gawd the Plumber is here!
04:48 PM on 11/12/2011
I'll bet Rand Paul is one of those guys who walks his dog on other peoples property and never picks up the poop...
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re-elect clinton
23 million jobs in 8 years!
07:15 PM on 11/12/2011
He probably just poops on the lawn himself.
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mmsuki
Fine; I evolved, you didn't.
04:36 PM on 11/12/2011
Pollution knows no boundaries, Mr. Paul, and keeping our air clean is well worth the cost.
I wish there were a way to keep your filthy air in Kentucky.
10:47 AM on 11/12/2011
In Rand Paul's mind: hmmm, I'm scientific, I went to med school. 34,000 people will die if something is not done to control cross-state air pollution. Hmmm I'm political, I know that only congress can enact legislation controlling interstate commerce and gap state by state regulation. Let's see, its congresses specific role and duty under the Constitution to enact legislation for the common welfare that can't be enacted by the individual states, 34,000 will die and millions will suffer without federal controls. Nah! Screw it! No way.
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DavidMG
09:29 AM on 11/12/2011
Its clear :The conservatives prefer jobs over their kids.
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Michael Myer
11:59 AM on 11/16/2011
They dont prefer "jobs" -- they prefer more money for the rich and "jobs" is their excuse -- to appease those of us in the Middle Class, they come up with tricky theories -- like trickle-down economics = give rich people money and they will hire us poor suckers in the middle class -- NEVER happened. Instead, the rich invest the money in the stock markets - in foreign countries!!! I cant believe there are still some fools that buy that crap.
08:34 AM on 11/12/2011
For once I'm proud to say thanks to Sen. Alexander! TN represent!
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supratroll
one indignation under a groove
08:31 AM on 11/12/2011
Rand Paul and his constituency of 1. thanks for the input Rand, you can just mail it in next time.
Saltheplumber
Thank Gawd the Plumber is here!
04:56 PM on 11/12/2011
Kentucky gets to wonder why they elected this Moron for another 5 years...
04:16 AM on 11/12/2011
Kentucky the country is watching.........time for a recall? Ya think!