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Riverside County, California To Charge Prisoners $142 Per Day Of Their Stay

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The Huffington Post   First Posted: 11/10/11 10:22 AM ET Updated: 11/10/11 10:22 AM ET

In one southern California county, prisoners will soon have to pay for the privilege of staying in jail.

Riverside County, California will start charging prisoners $142.42 per day of their prison stay, CNNMoney reports. The county's board of supervisors approved the measure on Tuesday as a way to save an estimated $3 to $5 million per year. Not every prisoner will be forced to pay up, however. The county will review each prisoner's case individually to determine if they can afford the fee.

The fee comes as the California correctional system continues to struggle with budget woes. Last month, in an effort to save money, the state transferred responsibility for lower-level drug offenders, thieves and other convicts to counties. The "prison realignment" is one of many measures the state has taken in recent years to close its budget gap. The California Supreme Court is considering this week whether the state broke the law when it used re-development funds to close a shortfall a few years ago, according to the Wall Street Journal.

But at some prisons, there still may be room for cost cuts. A California prison nurse was paid a salary of $269,810 in 2010 after working thousands of hours in overtime. Indeed, the five highest-paid California state employees all work in the prison system, according to LA Weekly.

California isn't the only state coping with cuts to its budget and prison system. Jefferson County, Alabama filed for the biggest municipal bankruptcy in U.S. history Wednesday after amassing massive debt and contending with a huge budget shortfall.

Other states have also considered extreme measures in order to cut prison-related costs. In Washington, corrections officials are considering leaving unsupervised thousands of former prisoners currently on parol in an attempt to cut costs, according to the Seattle Times. Thousands of prisoners in Texas have been eating two meals a day on weekends since April in a bid to save the prison system money. In Camden County, Georgia, officials mulled the idea of sending prisoners to work as firefighters to cope with budget woes.

But some have pushed back against the trend. In Minnesota, department of corrections officials argued in April that proposed cuts to the state's prison system were so deep that they would endanger public safety, according to CBS Minnesota. While in New York, the State Corrections Officers Union, told Gov. Andrew Coumo in February that his proposal to cut 3,500 prison beds would put guards who look over violent inmates in danger, the New York Daily News reported.

Though the lingering effects of the recession only made worse the budget woes of many prison systems, the problem wasn't born out of the financial crisis. The number of offenders serving life sentences in prison quadrupled between 1984 and 2008, USA Today reports.

And while state prisons may be suffering, federal prisons are filling that same pinch. President Obama's combined budget requests for fiscal years 2011 and 2012 included a 10 percent increase in funding for the Federal Bureau of Prisons, bringing the total to more than $6.8 billion, according to Mother Jones.

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In one southern California county, prisoners will soon have to pay for the privilege of staying in jail. Riverside County, California will start charging prisoners $142.42 per day of their prison s...
In one southern California county, prisoners will soon have to pay for the privilege of staying in jail. Riverside County, California will start charging prisoners $142.42 per day of their prison s...
 
 
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07:50 PM on 11/25/2011
THIRTY DAYS ("Sixteen Tons"--Tennessee Ernie Ford)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zUpTJg2EBpw

I was arrested at a routine traffic stop.
My only real crime was contempt of cop.
The judge asked me how much I thought I could raise.
I answered "None," and he said, "Thirty days."

CHORUS
You serve thirty days rotting in jail,
No money for fines or to cover your bail.
So where's that leave you when the bill comes due:
Four thousand, two hundred seventy-two.
(Daw daw daw daw--and sixty cents)

They had to let me go at my job, of course;
My wife took the kids and filed for divorce;
The mortgage and car payments have to wait;
And now here comes the bill from the State.

CHORUS

I've always been loyal to the government,
But now I'm left wond'ring just where it went.
They can look if they want me, but I'm well-hid--
From now on, my life's lived off the grid.

CHORUS

Real men have to maintain their self-respect.
This system of corrections has a lot to correct.
If you vote, or write letters, they ignore your voice
I don't like what comes next, but they leave us no choice.

CHORUS
03:47 PM on 11/23/2011
At least where I live in Ventura County, Ca revenue from fines levied by the, "Administration of Justice Department" stays within that department.

For Fiscal Year 2011:
Revenue from fines --------------------------$171,524,216
What the budget shows as Net Costs-----------$189,669,662
Total budget for administration of Justice---$361,193,878

Notice, the total of the budget is the sum of the revenue and costs exactly. None of the fines go to the general fund.

You might also notice that since 2008 no Police have been laid off, while lots of teachers have been.

I would say that the Police have a vested interest in putting people in prison for $141/night.

Source=http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=9&ved=0CHEQFjAI&url=http%3A%2F%2Fportal.countyofventura.org%2Fportal%2Fpage%2Fportal%2Fceo%2Fpublications%2FFY2011_CEO_AdoptBudWeb_BookmarkdFINALp68correction.pdf&ei=7UvNTsHmKPTJiQKW2dyHDA&usg=AFQjCNH0X4z4-EP39gjJJ5gLbBqkdNSQsA
09:21 AM on 11/13/2011
The highest incarceration rate in the world. Fiscally unsustainable as well.
An income inequality rivaling Zimbabwe.
Mandatory sentencing putting people away for life for negligible offenses like stealing a bagel for the third time.
Protracting two wars in the vain hope of a victory or at least honorably retreat. Add a third as the "war on drugs" just as successful...
Foreclosing families and saving banks.
A "Supreme court" allowing virtually unlimited corporate funding on political issues.

Really somewhere along the way common sense and empathy for fellow citizens got lost entirely.
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07:45 AM on 11/13/2011
Gee, is this more than they spend per day in public schools?
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anthonytaurus
don't f&f me. you dont' know what I'll say next
05:47 AM on 11/13/2011
We all know one important thing... legalize marijuana and watch the prison burden get alleviated. No one's saying marijuana legalization will save the US economy. But, it's a start in the SMART direction. Too many stupid people making stupid decisions and now we're stuck in this mess. Let's START with a SMART decision for once.
02:23 AM on 11/13/2011
What are the prisoners going to do if they can't pay? Sounds like a debtor's prison tactic to me!
11:07 PM on 11/12/2011
Its morally wrong to take away a persons freedom and then charge them by the day and when they serve their sentence give them a huge unpayable bill, just like a hospital. The prisoners don;t ask to be incarcerated, and way too many nonviolent "offenders" are in prison to begin with. Incarerating someone for small substance abuse infractions or minor dui's is just beyond the pale for a so called free country to do to its most valuable resource, its citizens. Today 1/2 of all males will be arrested in their lifetime because we have too many laws, way too proactive police, tons of probably cause excuses, zero tolerance and mandatory sentencing. We simply cannot afford to incarcerate people for poor lifestyle choices. Much of what we prosecute people for today wasn't even illegal back in the Eisenhower days. We got carried away, and its costing us way too much. The last thing a prisoner needs is a big bill on release and then the state will prosecute them to collect and they will just give up trying to rehabiliatate at all as it simply won't be financially possible for them.
12:17 AM on 11/13/2011
where did you get the statistic that half of all men will be arrested? Do you know what it's based on?
03:20 AM on 11/13/2011
Well Jack, Number in prison 2.5 million Americans, number on probation or parole 7.5 million, so thats 10 million arrested and convicted at any one time so with a country of 150 million males, 10 million is 15% of the population under sentence. Then you have to roll the time frames out and add up each cohort. The average sentence in prison is 18 months( we are not even including county and city jail which is under a year) so roughly every 2 years an entirely new prison population cohort runs thru. So in 10 years that is 5x2.5 million or 12.5 million(not counting parolee's or diverts), so in 20 years its 25 million, and in 30 years that is 37.5 million, and in 40 years that is 50 million and in 50 years it is 62.5 million. This doesnt even include dropped arrests, or those placed on probabation or diversion. It does approach half the American male population of 150 million within a persons lifetime now. There are many folks out there having completed their jail and prison terms, their diversion programs, and their dropped arrests walking among us now and as they live longer more and more will join them. It didn't use to be this way. Now all of these people will have problems getting good jobs or professional licenses or government contracts as almost every business and agency does criminal background checks these days beyond "were you ever convicted
08:13 PM on 11/12/2011
$270,000 nurse ripping off taxpayers (aka other workers). Let's start there after TBTF fails.
12:16 AM on 11/13/2011
she wasn't violating any rules. It's her HR manager you should be down on.
01:10 PM on 11/19/2011
Whatever.
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anthonytaurus
don't f&f me. you dont' know what I'll say next
05:45 AM on 11/13/2011
This is the problem with the United States right now. People like you have this anti-worker mentality where you believe it's the American worker that's the problem instead of the people at the top. The real issue you should be concerned about, if you were using your brain, is why isn't there more nurses such that there's no need to pay time-and-a-half to one nurse? Clearly, there's enough money in the system to pay a nurse whose base salary is probably between $50,000 and $75,000/yr. Management could have easily hired 2 to 4 more nurses at that rate or that money could have been used to hire teachers or cops, etc etc etc. At some point, you have to stop blaming the American worker for working.

Then, you'll probably go on to complain about how Americans don't like to work ignoring all the Americans who not only want to work but prove it on a daily basis.
01:09 PM on 11/19/2011
YOU have it backwards because YOU are the one paying her OT!!!

I'm not anti worker, I'm PRO worker!

Where do you think her salary comes from? Rich people? Bzzzt. It comes from your rent (property taxes are passed on to renters) or home "owners".
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Jimm Milenski
05:56 PM on 11/12/2011
The love of money is still the route to all evil.
If government has too many prisoners, duh, then stop making so many laws to arrest so many people.
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kamact
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04:21 PM on 11/12/2011
This will work if we throw the TBTF banksters in jail,...
03:39 PM on 11/12/2011
This will only cost more problems than anything, funny how the people can see this but the one's who make the laws can't.

If you don't have a job you can't pay and if your in jail you lost your job and that's not counting the other problems people have.

Wonder how long will it be to till it end's up in courts and how much money will be spend over it????

Looks like it's going to cost a lot of money to make it happen and a lot of people want have to pay since many don't have the money.
12:22 AM on 11/13/2011
It's really a pretty silly paper drill that probably will cost them much more in accounting costs than they ever collect - because most cons have committed some sort of tort that they are liable for restitution (excepting victimless crimes), and they never get sued (unless their name is Orenthal James) because they never have enough to make it worthwhile.

These are some seriously uncollectible people, and billing them is a waste of paper.
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Darcman
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03:08 PM on 11/12/2011
Idea! How about not filling prisons with non-violent drug offenders! How about treatment instead?
11:40 PM on 11/12/2011
Good idea, but I find it offensive that our government considers anyone with any substance is an offender and criminal and must either be imprisoned or put in treatment. There is a long history of home remedies in the US with all sorts of concoctions, both legal and illegal. Why do we consider people who use anything automatically sick? Overuse and abuse is a different story and yes some will do that. But most people do not become addicts and many grow up and become a lot more of a tee totler. Having a drink or a smoke doesn't mean your pathological. Perhaps education is a way to go as well and not make everything people imbibe mean they are somehow troubled or mental or criminals. This zero tolerance mentality is a product of our military, and then our penal system, but its not a product of our civilian society unless we let those who want everything that way enact even more laws against us. Frankly we could handle much of this issue with civil law and civil citations for public use, not with misdemeanors and felonies. If freedom is what you want.
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07:40 AM on 11/13/2011
Have been saying this for months - no, years now. There are (or were) FREE year-long programs for alcohol-related crimes in CA - classes, follow-up with testing, counseling. Not everyone can afford the expensive clinics if they want to get clean and sober and many cannot do it on their own.

If we had put even half of what we spend on this holding action we call a "war" on drugs into treatment, we might have been much better off. Now there is too much money to be made - first by the dealers, then by the jails and prisons. Then money that is diverted to the politicians in the form of "donations" by these corporations and also big pharma and the banks.
01:27 PM on 11/12/2011
Here we have it- Riverside County the Goldman Sachs of Prisons.
01:23 PM on 11/12/2011
Riverside needs a new board of supervisors.
02:14 PM on 11/12/2011
Why? Why should taxpayers have to pay for the actions of criminals? If you don't want to go to jail or pay a huge fine, then don't hurt others. Very simple solution here.
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shyhon
Truth, Justice and the American Way
03:05 PM on 11/12/2011
Gotta disagree with you.

The United States has more people incarcerated than any other country in the world.
As usual with our government, if they get their hands on any business, (and prison IS big business), IT WILL BECOME BLOATED AND GROW.
It begins with an arrests, and the city makes bail money, then the court asseses fines and they make money. Then, you go to jail or prison and they make money.
Our prison system needs an enema with green soap to flush out all the corruption.
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clearthinker2008
we need to respect each other
03:06 PM on 11/12/2011
Yeah, it's that simple. Everyone in jail is guilty too, right? Here's the the thing supergenius, nothing about the prison systems in this country is that simple.
12:15 PM on 11/12/2011
This is a horrible idea, it justifies our fascist government arresting us for EVERYTHING!!

The problem is our government CREATES criminals!!

PRIVATE PRISONS are all the norm now, they profit from having people locked up. Now they can charge you for it!! WHAT!!??
01:13 PM on 11/12/2011
Does sound like a conflict of interest. If a county needs revenue now all they have to do is increase arrests.
02:15 PM on 11/12/2011
That is why you have juries to protect against this kind of action.
12:31 AM on 11/13/2011
No, it's an exercise in stupidity. Why do you suppose victims don't sue criminals? Because their lawyers tell them the truth, you can't get blood out of a stone. It's not worth the $375 filing fee in 99.99% of the cases.

Jeez, I can't believe there is so much ignorance of the world!
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shyhon
Truth, Justice and the American Way
03:06 PM on 11/12/2011
For that kind of money, they should just lock you in a room at a nice hotel. Less money and better accomodations.
12:32 AM on 11/13/2011
It is a bit of a ripoff bill. CCA bills the Feds about $85/day to hold an ICE prisoner.