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Nebraska Celebrates Keystone Pipeline Delay

MATTHEW BROWN and JAMES MacPHERSON   11/11/11 05:33 PM ET   AP

BILLINGS, Mont. — The White House plan to seek alternate routes for a Canada-to-Texas oil pipeline presents a tangle of new problems for the project's backers, and any of those obstacles could still sink the proposal before the first spade of dirt is turned.

Shifting the path to avoid a major aquifer could increase the number of perilous stream crossings and put the line closer to populated areas. Major changes also risk alienating pipeline supporters, who tout the economic benefits of creating thousands of jobs. And the most vocal opponents plan to keep up their fight regardless of the route.

The obstacles are tall enough, some observers say, that Canada's oil-sands industry could even decide to bypass U.S. markets altogether and sell fuel directly to China using a pipeline through western Canada to the shores of the Pacific.

TransCanada's $7 billion Keystone XL pipeline would carry up to 700,000 barrels of crude a day from Alberta's tar sands to Gulf Coast refineries. The original route crossed six states, including Nebraska, where opponents worried about threats to the massive Ogallala aquifer. The line also would pass through Montana, South Dakota, Kansas and Oklahoma.

Largely because of complaints from Nebraska, the State Department agreed Thursday to look for new routes that would steer clear of the state's Sandhills region and the aquifer, which flows beneath eight states and provides irrigation to huge farming areas. That effort will delay a final decision until early 2013.

TransCanada's director of field operations, Jim Krause, declined Friday to go into any detail about possible alternative routes.

"We only got the news late yesterday," Krause said. "We're mulling a lot of things."

Thirteen alternate routes were reviewed and rejected by the State Department over the past three years. Among those were paths to follow an existing TransCanada pipeline that roughly tracks the Canadian border east from Montana across North Dakota and then turns south to go through eastern South Dakota and Nebraska.

That option, favored by Nebraska's governor, passes through a much smaller portion of the Ogallala aquifer. But it was rejected in part because the route is longer and would have raised the project's price tag by about 25 percent, or an estimated $1.7 billion.

Also rejected were two routes that paralleled a stretch of Interstate 90 in South Dakota to avoid the Sandhills. Those would have cost almost $500 million more and involved putting the line through more densely populated areas and across more streams and rivers that could be fouled if the conduit broke or leaked.

Two western routes that passed through Wyoming and Colorado were thrown out because they would have added several hundred miles to the line, again making it more expensive.

An industry consultant who headed the federal pipeline safety agency under the Bush administration said any changes probably mean building a longer pipeline than TransCanada originally planned. That could expose the project to still more objections because a longer pipeline has more points at which it can fail.

"You could set this pipeline up for a death by a thousand cuts: Next, year, the new route's not good enough," consultant Brigham McCown said. "I'm very skeptical about the fairness of the process at this point."

The environmental group Friends of the Earth has sought a broader government review that would address national energy policies and whether it is in the country's best interest to expand the use of a fuel considered more environmentally damaging than conventional oil.

"I don't think there is an alternative route that solves the problems of this project," said Damon Moglen, the group's climate director.

But a wider review was rejected by Assistant Secretary of State Kerri-Ann Jones. She told reporters Thursday the process would focus on alternative routes.

Jones also ruled out any significant changes to the pipeline path outside of Nebraska, saying that for now the agency's review will be limited to that state.

Kevin Cramer, chairman of the agency that regulates North Dakota's pipeline industry, said there is fear that TransCanada could scrub its plans to build the pipeline through the Midwest and instead build one through western Canada to ports on the Pacific, where the crude could be shipped to overseas markets.

TransCanada had faced political pressure to let U.S. oil companies tap into the Keystone XL, which under the previously selected route would pass through or near rich oil fields along the Montana-North Dakota border.

Montana Gov. Brian Schweitzer had threatened to hold up Keystone's 280-mile route through his state if builders did not agree to an "on ramp" that would take domestic crude south. Sen. John Hoeven, a North Dakota Republican, also pushed for access to the pipeline. The company announced in January that it would accept crude from both states.

North Dakota is the nation's No. 4 oil producer and is projected to surpass California and Alaska in the next year, trailing only Texas.

Mark Lewis, a partner in the Bracewell and Giuliani law firm who represents pipeline developers, owners and operators, said any new route will be fraught with potential environmental problems. And of course, the rerouting might cost too much.

"If you have to reroute it through a more developed area, that becomes more expensive just to acquire the rights of way," Lewis said. "The best place, just from a pipeline perspective, is open, rural land."

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MacPherson reported from Bismarck, N.D. Grant Schulte in Lincoln, Neb., and Ramit Plushnick-Masti in Houston contributed to this report.

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dbrett480
01:46 PM on 11/30/2011
I'm really not sure what the big deal is. We are talking about a simple pipeline here.
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john whalen
12:54 PM on 11/18/2011
I guess the POTUS really doesn't care about jobs HUH!!!!!
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williamabn
I Doubt , Therefore I might be
01:44 PM on 11/13/2011
Well , We just bitched ourselvs out of more jobs . Can't drill for oil , Gotta buy it at the higest price from OPEC . That would give us many jobs in that field and much lower prices . But lets let that slide by too . No natural gas drilling . No jobs there . Hea Green people , Don't EVER cry about you pocket book . Its YOUR fault we have no job's and no prgress in this country . Now go get a picket sign ! The rest of us will starve !
08:09 PM on 11/13/2011
Thanks for another totally clueless comment.  You whine about "no progress in this country," but you remain in obstinate DENIAL about the scientific FACTS of the climate crisis.

                http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TrURLJ6Vlsg

                http://tiny.cc/KeystoneTar

I'll translate for you.  WE NEED TO STOP BURNING OIL NOW !!!!!!  Is that clear enough?  Were you listening?  Should heeding scientific warnings be part of "progress" in your view, or do you only include science then it fits your worldview of industrial exploitation for "jobs"?
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williamabn
I Doubt , Therefore I might be
09:00 PM on 11/13/2011
Yep , Nice SONG . No oil burning , I get it . So tomorrow morning what do you want us to do . I mean YOU . Im not in denial about anything . I do know we have 7 billion folks on the planet now and it will be impossable to get them all on the same page with energy .So if science says not to do anything that we are doing now and we don't have the job's or money to change things to everyones likeing , Than I ask again , What do You want us to do NOW . The rest of the world may not change . They are in the oil business .
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williamabn
I Doubt , Therefore I might be
12:28 PM on 11/14/2011
grem ... So are we on a " Clue " hunt ? I think you have all the clue's and are hording them . Wanna share ? Sooo, Knower and seer of all things . We need to run america when the sun comes up in the morning . You have all the answers if we stop burning oil and useing it for power , How do we run the semi trucks , The heavy construction equipment , The trains , The plains , Bus's , Power generators to plug in the green eco friendly cars . And I could go on about oil and oil products . But you hold the clues . Or you just bitch about the use of oil with no good fast useable answers . Just songs and links . Oh and slams on those that don't agree with you . Yep Im clueless .
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ILoveFiction
That's unbelievable!
09:34 PM on 11/13/2011
Waaaawaaaawaaa

Is that you or your guitar?
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williamabn
I Doubt , Therefore I might be
09:48 PM on 11/13/2011
Is that your fix ? a big Waaa . Love thos great ideas .
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williamabn
I Doubt , Therefore I might be
10:27 AM on 11/13/2011
Yea ! Not in my back yard . Yep we can find all the reason NOT to have the pipe line . Thank god these folks wern't around when they decided to build the Hovver Dam . I can see the enviromentalast folks with there picket signs now . And those crazy people building a railroad right thru mountains and do get me started on those highways and that Alaskan Pipeline . God there all nuts ! Na , We don't need jobs . We will find all the excusess not to have it . Yep , Thats the new GREEN american way ! Let's turn the Whole U.S.A. into a big park and wear sandles ride bikes and horses . Yea !
08:15 PM on 11/13/2011
"wear sandles [sic] ..."

Oh no!  That's terrible!  But that's a nice straw man, Sparky!

It's clearly "just mental overload" that makes people silly enough to think that a clean, healthy environment is more important than a "job" with a multinational corporation.
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williamabn
I Doubt , Therefore I might be
08:34 PM on 11/13/2011
Hea , You got It ! We CAN have both , But not if we are stopped at every turn with the maybe's and could dire report at every turn . We do have ways of makeing things safer now but a blind eye is turned to that . Oh well we will sit without jobs and buy from other countrys at top dollar . Its OK though , We don't take chances and we breath great .
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john whalen
12:55 PM on 11/18/2011
Stay on your meds pal!!!!
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williamabn
I Doubt , Therefore I might be
02:28 PM on 11/18/2011
So John , Instead of saying " I don't agree with you " or you dicussing your view , You just attack me with four words . You feel that I am on medication and can't have the views that I have unless I have a medicated mind . Four words pal says you have no problem slamming people with diferent views . Only your opinion counts pal . Thank you for the slam .
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longeye67
When all else fails, play dead.
09:38 AM on 11/12/2011
I'm a geologist and I just want to point out that protecting the Ogallala aquifer is a really big deal, the American West depends on it's water. However, pipeline technology is pretty impressive and shutoffs are built into the system. Still, a big blowout and attendant technology failure could poison the most important source of groundwater in the country, forever. Do we really want to risk that? This is a really difficult decision.
10:29 PM on 11/12/2011
Thanks for speaking up for the Ogallala aquifer.  The looming scarcity of fresh water is a huge problem.

But ruining our climate for thousands of years is a far worse problem.  That's why the tar sands is primarily a climate issue.

The best single source of information about the issue is this recent article by Raymond Pierrehumbert, Professor in Geophysical Sciences at the University of Chicago:

http://www.realclimate.org/index.php/archives/2011/11/keystone-xl-game-over

Predictions vary among climate scientists, but the midrange estimate is that dumping one trillion tons of carbon into the atmosphere (half of which we have already done) will cause 2 ºC of global warming.  This milestone is critical for a variety of reasons — including the instigation of a catastrophic positive feedback loop of methane emissions from melting Arctic permafrost.

Such melting has already started:

          http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wofv9o0j1Ew
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stymie500r
Live Free or Die
09:21 AM on 11/12/2011
ugghh, another story about something that just shouldn't be because of some fools and a moron leader. great, the 1 term wonder stikes again.
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longeye67
When all else fails, play dead.
09:45 AM on 11/12/2011
It's complicated! If there is a major screw up praying won't fix it. He'll get two terms.
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ILoveFiction
That's unbelievable!
01:54 AM on 11/13/2011
Cain/Palin!
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Johngy
Banned for what???
09:12 AM on 11/12/2011
Stop the pipeline! Oh, by the way, why are oil prices so high?
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ILoveFiction
That's unbelievable!
09:12 PM on 11/12/2011
I wouldn't want to speculate.
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williamabn
I Doubt , Therefore I might be
10:28 AM on 11/13/2011
I have sand in my gas tank .
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CanadaStan
Cogito ergo spud, I think, therefore I yam
12:50 AM on 11/12/2011
"Montana Gov. Brian Schweitzer had threatened to hold up Keystone's 280-mile route through his state if builders did not agree to an "on ramp" that would take domestic crude south. Sen. John Hoeven, a North Dakota Republican, also pushed for access to the pipeline. The company announced in January that it would accept crude from both states.

North Dakota is the nation's No. 4 oil producer and is projected to surpass California and Alaska in the next year, trailing only Texas."

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25% of the volume would be from the Bakken oil field....

Oh well, maybe they can ship it north to Canada and then to the pacific through the new pipeline.
Doesn't do much for energy independence...
10:31 PM on 11/12/2011
The Bakken talking point is an overblown canard.
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CanadaStan
Cogito ergo spud, I think, therefore I yam
12:34 AM on 11/12/2011
Meanwhile Obama continues to hand out money to oil companies to drill offshore in South America...
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SueMVetforObama2
With Liberty and justice for all
09:45 AM on 11/12/2011
Nonsense.  See Export Import Bank.
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metusmetu
Once more into the fray, into the last fight...
08:58 PM on 11/11/2011
Keystone, and the investors will not "sit" on this for over a year because of Obama. They will take the pipeline to the Pacific. They have way to much money involved here. So forget the "JOBS" U.S. citizens, there will be none. Btw, part of the "original agreement" for letting them bring the pipeline through the U.S., was that they "hire substantial amounts" of Americans to work on the pipeline. China wins, U.S. LOSES! Again, because of idiots in Washington, D.C.!
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CanadaStan
Cogito ergo spud, I think, therefore I yam
12:25 AM on 11/12/2011
It's all good, Canada diversifies it's customer base.
09:28 AM on 11/12/2011
Keystone will hire americans even when the pipeline goes to the pacific through Canada and no matter where the oil goes it is the BIGGEST HAZARD to even refine and use this DANGEROUS OIL SAND CRUDE. Has anyone ever seen pictures of ( Linfen China the most polluted city in the world.? ) China will pollute the whole world in the next decade no matter where the pipeline goes if something isn't done to help China to Clean up their mess.
I am surprised CANADA is allowing their beautiful country to be RAPED for Oil, and Gold and no regard for the pristine land it destroys. Lets STOP this pipeline from coming across some of Americas pristine land and rivers with no regard for the hazards it will cause.
ALL FOT THE DOLLAR WITH NO THOUGHT OF THE HAZARDS!
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WESmith
Energy Conservation can save you M-O-N-E-Y!!!!!!!!
08:41 PM on 11/11/2011
For a supposed science literate country, we are very ignorant in this case. First off, I don't care whether this pipeline goes through. I have weaned myself off of gasoline. Gasoline-powered vehicles are inefficient and polluting. I have reusable "grocery" sacks. I don't buy Happy Meals with that clump of petroleum included. I do have a petroleum inundated computer though. Secondly, The product from tarsands is called asphaltenes. We have put millions of miles of this product on our earth and steamrolled it so that we can drive on it and spill thousands of barrels of oil, gasoline, diesel and antifreeze each year. These petroleum products are washed into the environment. Why haven't they polluted the aquifers already? Science and the facts of density and miscibility. Oil and water don't mix and oil floats on top of water. For millions of years, oil and gas has travelled toward the surface of our planet, never downward unless forced there by massive movements of the earth. We have something else working for us with natural petroleum products. They are dead plants and animals. Bacteria "loves" to eat it. Now once we make it into some other product, it lasts for millions of years. We have tons of this stuff scattered all over the environment (thrown from car windows ). Once we start blaming THEM for polluting the Earth and that we are innocent, it becomes a religion. Each and every one of us contributes to pollution.
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WESmith
Energy Conservation can save you M-O-N-E-Y!!!!!!!!
08:50 PM on 11/11/2011
We pay industry to supply us with the toxins and pollutants. There is a scientific and economic fact that we ignore:
One doesn't have to pay for energy one doesn't use and we waste 25-40% of the energy we purchase. It is to our benefit to become energy efficient.
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06:58 PM on 11/11/2011
Canada is now in the approval process of a pipeline to the west coast for shipping oil to the Asian markets.

If the pipeline is approved, the Republicans will use the issue to beat Obama like a pinata during the next federal election. They will depict him as the guy who forced Canadians to sell their oil to the Chinese, depriving America of jobs, money, and oil.

And if a minor oil shortage were to occur in the next year (perhaps caused by an uprising in Saudi Arabia?), that would be the icing on the cake.
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07:41 PM on 11/11/2011
Does anybody think this will stay in the states when shipped to Texas? Why not refine it in the northern states? Use the pipeline money for a refinery and I would think we would have a chance of staying here.
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WESmith
Energy Conservation can save you M-O-N-E-Y!!!!!!!!
08:48 PM on 11/11/2011
Refineries are not very profitable. Anybody building a new refinery would lose money if they actually were allowed to build one. Also, there is the NIMBY attutude. We want cheap gasoline, but we do not want any pipelines or refineries anywhere near us. The refineries on the Gulf were updated to refine the nasty crude from Venezuela. They can handle the asphaltenes from tarsands. If it were me, I would make profitable products from this asphaltene and very little diesel. Gasoline is a waste product left over. That is inevitable. You have to sell it or pay to dispose it. That is why gasoline has always been so cheap. If it weren't for taxes, refineries would give it away.
09:37 AM on 11/12/2011
LET CANADA REFINE IT . No matter where the pipeline goes Asia will end up using it, Just like our Alaskan Oil. People still think Alaskan Oil is used in the USA.
BULL It is sent to Japan
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ILoveFiction
That's unbelievable!
12:19 AM on 11/12/2011
And if we can crash the whole economy, hurray! We did it!

Let's see if we can crash the entire climate system!
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wa-st-concerned
06:00 PM on 11/11/2011
The best way "from the human perspective" is to NOT extract that poor oil in the first place -

How much will we have to pay in the future to clean up the mess this creates?

Corporations - especially polluting toxic debris producing companies - are masters at passing on the actual costs of their products to the consumer and taxpayer. They have no moral imperative, social economic imperative nor enough rules from the people to make them quit abusing the public.
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CanadaStan
Cogito ergo spud, I think, therefore I yam
12:29 AM on 11/12/2011
Go look at the Syncrude site, it shows exactly how the mines and tailings ponds are cleaned up.
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wa-st-concerned
05:47 PM on 11/11/2011
This extracts subpar product in a high polluting process that affect the entire northern hemisphere.....and takes it to the gulf of mexico to export to the world. It provides only initial construction jobs and a few long term maintenance jobs. Along the way, for this "very important purpose of tranporting dirty oil to the world (not the US)" we open ourselves to the possibility of further pollution in an accident - pollution of the largest aquifer in the country.......

What exactly do WE or the world actually gain?
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CanadaStan
Cogito ergo spud, I think, therefore I yam
12:30 AM on 11/12/2011
Why do you guys keep lying?
Oil sands oil is cleaner than Nigerian oil by a large margin, yet you import that oil.
California's oil has a larger carbon footprint than the oil sands oil.
Billybladerunner
Is this thing on....
07:43 AM on 11/12/2011
Your asking Why American Liberals lie .....They get there facts from MSNBC , CBS, NBC and CNN... No one has to be factually correct ..they just have to repeat something someone else said for it to be true ....

If I said , there is a possibility that this oil field was part of a ancient Canadian Indian burial site ,

one of these yahoo's would tell others .......this oil comes from dead Indians not dead animals & plants, does this mean we should we now start driling at every cemetery ?

Then some one else would say Republicans want oil fields at all the cemeteries , some of these are next to schools and hospitals ...

Then
Republicans don't care that the keystone pipeline will be built right next to a public school,

And then it would keep snowballing from there.
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olitenup
05:42 PM on 11/11/2011
Just happened to catch CNN discussion of this issue. If I did not know what Wolf Blitzer's voice sounded like, I would have sworn I was listening to faux news. The lack of knowledge and truth was stunning.
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CanadaStan
Cogito ergo spud, I think, therefore I yam
12:31 AM on 11/12/2011
Really?
What did he say that was false or ininformed?
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john whalen
12:57 PM on 11/18/2011
Why are you an expert on the matter?