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Oakland Police Plead For Occupy Protesters To Leave After Shooting Death

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TERRY COLLINS   11/11/11 10:44 PM ET   AP

OAKLAND, Calif. — Leaders across the country felt increasing pressure Friday to shut down Occupy encampments after two men died in shootings and another was found dead from a suspected combination of drugs and carbon monoxide poisoning caused by a propane heater inside a tent.

Citing a strain on crime-fighting resources, police first pleaded with and then ordered Occupy Oakland protesters to leave their encampment at the City Hall plaza where a man was shot and killed late Thursday.

The Oakland Police Officer's Association, which represents rank-and-file police, issued an open letter saying the camp is pulling officers away from crime-plagued neighborhoods.

"With last night's homicide, in broad daylight, in the middle of rush hour, Frank Ogawa Plaza is no longer safe," the letter said. "Please leave peacefully, with your heads held high, so we can get police officers back to work fighting crime in Oakland neighborhoods."

Late in the afternoon, police officers acting at the direction of Mayor Jean Quan distributed fliers to protesters warning that the camp violates the law and must be disbanded immediately. The notices warned campers they would face arrest if tents and other materials were not removed, although the warnings did not say by when.

The city issued similar written warnings before officers raided the encampment before dawn on Oct. 25 with tear gas and bean bags projectiles before arresting 85 people. A day later, Quan allowed protesters to reclaim the disbanded site and the camp has grown substantially since then.

City Council President Larry Reid said outside City Hall on Friday that the shooting was further proof the tents must come down. He was confronted by a protester who said he wouldn't be in office much longer.

"You didn't elect me," Reid snapped back. "You probably ain't even registered to vote!"

Reid said the encampment has been a major setback for the area while attracting sex offenders, mentally ill and homeless people, and anarchists.

"This is no longer about Occupy Wall Street," he said. "This is about occupying Oakland and extracting whatever you can get out of Oakland by holding our city hostage."

The Oakland shooting occurred the same day a 35-year-old military veteran apparently shot himself to death in a tent at a Burlington, Vt., Occupy encampment.

On Friday, a man was found dead inside a tent at the Occupy Salt Lake City encampment, from what police said was a combination of drug use and carbon monoxide.

A preliminary investigation into the Oakland shooting suggested it resulted from a fight between two groups of men at or near the encampment, police Chief Howard Jordan said. Investigators do not know if the men in the fight were associated with Occupy Oakland, he said.

Protesters said there was no connection between the shooting and the camp.

The coroner's office said it was using fingerprints to identify the victim and that a positive identification was not likely to be released before Monday.

Protesters have been girding for another police raid as several City Council members have said the Oakland camp must go. After police cleared the camp last month, Quan changed course and allowed protesters to return.

The mayor's reversal strained relationships with city police and other San Francisco Bay area law enforcement agencies. More than a dozen agencies joined Oakland police in the Oct. 25 raid on the camp under a mutual aid policy in which each agency covers its own costs.

Alameda County Sheriff's Department spokesman Sgt. J.D. Nelson said Friday that Oakland will have to pick up the entire tab if it asks for deputies to assist another raid.

Mutual aid was designed for law enforcement agencies to assist each other in unplanned emergency situations, Nelson said.

"When government officials allowed those campers to go back in, well now you know what you're getting. It's not an unplanned event," he said.

In Vermont, police said a preliminary investigation showed the veteran fatally shot himself in the head in a tent in City Hall Park. The name of the Chittenden County man was being withheld because not all of his family has been notified.

The shooting raised questions about whether the protest would be allowed to continue, said Burlington police Deputy Chief Andi Higbee.

"Our responsibility is to keep the public safe. When there is a discharge of a firearm in a public place like this it's good cause to be concerned, greatly concerned," Higbee said.

The discovery of the man believed to be in his 40s at the Occupy Salt Lake City camp led police to order all protesters to leave the park where they have camped for weeks. The man has not been identified.

Group organizers said many of the roughly 150 protesters plan to go to jail rather than abandon the encampment.

"We don't even know if this is a tragedy or just natural," protest organizer Jesse Fruhwirth said. "They're scapegoating Occupy."

Salt Lake City police Chief Chris Burbank said officers have made 91 arrests at the camp, roughly the same number seen in the area during all of the last year.

Tensions were also high at the 300-tent encampment in Portland, Ore., which has become a hub for the city's homeless people and addicts.

Mayor Sam Adams ordered the camp shut down by midnight Saturday, saying the tipping point came this week with the arrest of a camper on suspicion of setting off a Molotov cocktail outside an office building, as well as two non-fatal drug overdoses at the camp.

"I cannot wait for someone to die," he said. "I cannot wait for someone to use the camp as camouflage to inflict bodily harm on others."

Many at the camp said they would resist any effort to remove them.

"There will be a variety of tactics used," said organizer Adriane DeJerk, 26. "No social movement has ever been successful while being completely peaceful."

Police said some elements inside the camp may be building shields and makeshift weapons, including nails hammered into wood, while trying to gather gas masks.

"If there are anarchists, if there are weapons, if there is an intention to engage in violence and confrontation, that obviously raises our concerns," Portland police Lt. Robert King said.

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Associated Press writers Dave Gram in Burlington, Vt., Nigel Duara in Portland, Ore., Josh Loftin and Brian Skoloff in Salt Lake City and Sudhin Thanawala and Marcus Wohlsen in San Francisco contributed to this report.

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11:58 PM on 11/14/2011
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rini1946
10:12 PM on 11/14/2011
like I said weeks ago the people behind this are hoping for another kent state so all the money they spent is not forgot about in a couple of years. The other question did any of these people vote or were they too busy protesting. The reason the country is the way it is because people are either repulse a can or dem o rat. but seeing that only half the people vote the only ones that will get anything is the lobbist giving money to the dem o rats and the repusle a cans and the groups that vote This year it is going to be the gay (because they have a strong group), and the latinos because they are going to vote. The rest of us middle class people will just sit on our butts and cry how come they are doing this to me.
06:22 PM on 11/14/2011
Misfits from every area of our society gather to blame everyone but themselves for the pitiable state their lives are in ... they talk in vague generalities and liberal/dem spin, then wonder why it pisses off so many hard working Americans. They cannot comprehend how a majority of middle American consider the problems of our nation to stem from people like them, and applaud any effort to get them off the streets and back to looking for someone who'll hire and put up with their crazy asses.
09:23 PM on 11/13/2011
I do not think street versions of Woodstock will much change the economic tide itself although the dissent against truly unfair economic inequalities and the erosion of opportunities is important. Would the rich in power now be merciful because of the chants of protesters and the blocking of roads? Negative. Why should they care now? Per "blackmail"? Who are these plebiscites to them?

Following the petition process, bills can become laws to control costs of utilities and housing for lower income classes, to make them affordable. Laws for major corporations to share profits in payroll, not just retirement plans, in significant ways, with the workers responsible for their great profits, should also be instituted. The government would benefit as well in tax revenue and this would raise the standard of living for lower income and middle class workers, as well as increase the GNP.
Also, the particular educational choices of people largely dictate their income. The labor market needs change as the times change and people need to do their research well so their educational studies are not in vain. The people protesting are not graduates who had degrees in marine biology or needed engineering who just can't make it. Throwing rocks at the police and blocking traffic is not going to make the rich love them or initiate business executives to start pouring money out of windows, nor cause Congress to help them either.
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Ruth1966
No PC, no apologies.
08:16 PM on 11/14/2011
"I do not think street versions of Woodstock will much change the economic tide....

Throwing rocks at the police and blocking traffic is not going to make the rich love them or initiate business executives to start pouring money out of windows, nor cause Congress to help them either. "

==Very Good and insightful post; fanned and faved==
08:46 PM on 11/14/2011
Thank you! I appreciate the feedback.
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Joel Mendez
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12:19 PM on 11/15/2011
don't believe the hype. it's not a very insightful post, nor was it very good. better luck next time.
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Rodger leMonde
I call them as I see them.
09:02 PM on 11/13/2011
Due to Oakland's gross incompetence freedom of speech will be suspended. It is in your best interests not to temp the police to graduate to live rounds in their oppressive disregard for Americans protesting for a better America.
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Rodger leMonde
I call them as I see them.
09:08 PM on 11/13/2011
None of which proves jack.
Are you having fun? You are to simple to see that protest is needed so you seek to belittle those who care for their country and want to see it improve. What a sick way to feed your ego.
05:41 AM on 11/14/2011
I believe I have come up with an extraordinary explanation! Perhaps - now hear me out - perhaps it is the case that in a movement which requires nothing to join, and which consists of tens of thousands of people, a few bad people may possibly choose to join.
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Kathryn Talbert
06:05 PM on 11/13/2011
"Attracting the homeless, the mentally ill ..." Where else do these people go? They are always in the cities, what else is new? The difference is that the Occupy people are now in the cities with them and the police now have to take some responsibility to ensure the safety of all, rather than ignoring the street people as they usually do.

The police are inconvenienced, that is the story here. Drug addicts die, people have fights with guns (since they are so easy to obtain) and unfortunately, the suicide rate for vets is still higher than the average population.

Just another excuse to try and move the Occupy movement away. But whether they are encamped or not, the movement will stay alive until this country changes its course in a serious way.
01:13 PM on 11/13/2011
Hippies, hobos, radical socialist, and clueless rebels. A good snow storm would clear them out.
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Ruth1966
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08:17 PM on 11/14/2011
"A good snow storm would clear them out. "

==Or some roach spray. fanned and faved==
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Joel Mendez
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12:22 PM on 11/15/2011
i see you don't give up....fanning and faving every conservative comment. says a great deal about your ability to judge intelligence--which is to say, you don't have that skill. you must be quite sad.
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ta2t2o
Ask Osama Bin Laden
12:51 PM on 11/13/2011
"Oakland Police Officer's Association, which represents rank-and-file police, issued an open letter saying the camp is pulling officers away from crime-plagued neighborhoods."

So it's OWS fault that Oakland doesn't have enough police? It couldn't possibly be that Oakland layed off 80 officers last year leaving the Department with 696 officers in a city of 400K could it?

http://www.csmonitor.com/From-the-news-wires/2010/0717/Police-layoffs-hit-Oakland-one-of-the-nation-s-most-crime-ridden-cities
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gunrunner99
freedom of speech
05:45 PM on 11/13/2011
They were laid off because of budget cuts,Occupy is costing quite a bit, as police are getting major overtime...so they are kind of screwing the taxpayer,what have they really demanded or received? I wish they had been more organized to begin with,its ended up looking like a bunch of wannabe 60s protesters.
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Kathryn Talbert
06:07 PM on 11/13/2011
Go to the web pages of the more prominent cities and you'll see very clear descriptors of why they are there. They've made their points very clear.
mrshep
Quiet...Genius at Work
04:09 PM on 11/14/2011
There was no organization because it was a spontaneous, response by everyday people to call attention to some of the problems of the country. The protesters even refused help from labor and other organizations, so that their protest would remain a ground swell. They were protesting different things the economy, lack of jobs, poor education,GOP/TPers nonparticipating in government and unfair taxation among other things.
demsrsilly
Proud to be non union
07:19 AM on 11/14/2011
yes, the dem mayors of Oakland have done a fine job, don't you think?
mrshep
Quiet...Genius at Work
04:11 PM on 11/14/2011
Yes, much better then the Rep governor of Wisc, who is being recalled
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ta2t2o
Ask Osama Bin Laden
07:56 PM on 11/14/2011
Not really - and I'm a democrat. I think they've all done pretty crappy jobs - I have an serious issue with the Blue Dog Democrats who didn't do in Congress what their constituents put them there to do. I have a problem with these democratic mayors who layed off police officers in a city that obviously desperately needs the extra police force. I have a problem with them wasting time with a police force continually harassing peaceful protestors while a person is murdered literally yards away.

In the words of the Beatles "Let it be." The government can't handle the message - so they are attacking the messenger. Attacking an angry dog - only serves to make the dog bark louder and his bite to become more severe. Why haven't any of the politicians there gone down to ask them what their issues are? Are these not constituents too? Are these not citizens? Do they not have a voice in this democracy?

Where are all the 2nd Amendment proponents at. The NRA who believes we need to have guns to protect our freedoms form a tyrannical government should be down there with guns a blazin' or at least in a show of might to help protect the First Amendment Rights of these protestors. Or is that line that they feed us about the reason they need so many guns nothing but a bunch of hooey.
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10:22 AM on 11/13/2011
Oakland must be seeing fewer homicides than usual with all those people around.
08:47 AM on 11/13/2011
So on Veteran's weekend we are going to evict people for exercising their 1st Amendment rights. Veteran's fought and died for our freedoms and what they represent, now they want to take that away as well. What are we fighting for, o' yeah, MONEY. The police should be protecting these protestors, but we know better. They have stepped back and they are waiting for something to happen so that they can get rid of them. Also, nowhere In the 1st Amendment does it talk about getting a permit. America my a**. This is not what we fought for!
demsrsilly
Proud to be non union
07:19 AM on 11/14/2011
Making weapons is not free speech.
09:51 AM on 11/14/2011
You are right, guns are made by companies, not by PEOPLE. But that is not what I am talking about. In the BILL of RIGHTS, the 1st amendment states: well just read it yourself...http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/First_Amendment_to_the_United_States_Constitution The part about FREEDOM of SPEECH. Oh yeah, Guns are protected by the 2nd amendment. But thanks for the comment.
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Joel Mendez
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12:26 PM on 11/15/2011
i imagine you have no problem if they all bought legal guns and had them ready then?
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orlum
Occupy your mind!
05:43 AM on 11/13/2011
The incidents of rape, violence, and drug use which are frequently cited echo the reasons countless politician­s and pundits recount when calling for an end to the movement. As it stands, however, a movement that does not discrimina­te and welcomes every human being will undoubtedl­y represent a true sample of our society. The isolated incidents of criminal behavior that are relentless­ly amplified by the media are, to a point, inevitable­, as they are representa­tive of the societal ills that are present in our community as a whole.

Two of the movement's goals are to mitigate such occurrence­s internally and to explore ways to build a society with reduced frequency of such negative incidentsr. In the mean time, we must ask law enforcemen­t to investigat­e such cases happening within the movement, without creating a false correlatio­n between these crimes and the movement as a whole.

Granted, some associatin­g themselves with the fledgling movement, or participat­ing in its activities­, have taken some missteps which those mounting the escalating smear campaign have eaten up. As a whole, however, the movement is peaceful. The movement is benevolent­. The movement is strong. The movement is growing. And the movement is not going anywhere.
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Joel Mendez
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12:32 PM on 11/15/2011
agreed, but OWS isn't 'fledgling' anymore. it's everywhere. not just the states, either. Canada, Puerto Rico, Egypt, South Africa, Bolivia, Brasil, China, India, Israel, Japan, it's everywhere. here's a list from wikipedia:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Occupy_movement_protest_locations
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zombywulf
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03:45 AM on 11/13/2011
Please leave it's no longer safe for you to be here, WE'VE MADE SURE OF THAT. the OPD
12:30 AM on 11/13/2011
Of course its no longer safe! The Oakland Police are there!

Now the Oakland police chief wants to get back to his real job. He apparently has tired of beating up protestors and wants to get back to his real job of chasing criminals. I guess he has missed the entire point of the people demonstrating! He wants to chase petty criminals not the ones who steal millions! They are so much harder to catch and have nicer suits than even the chief!
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GrumpyinAZ
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11:52 PM on 11/12/2011
Get the 1% to leave
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Kathryn Talbert
06:08 PM on 11/13/2011
Absolutely!