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Michele Bachmann: Obama Was Wrong To Ban Waterboarding

AP/The Huffington Post   Posted: 11/13/2011 10:54 am

Republican presidential candidate Michele Bachmann is accusing the Obama administration of committing "strategic blunders" that have hampered U.S. efforts to combat terrorism.

Bachmann concedes that President Barack Obama achieved a "tactical" success in bringing down al-Qaida leader Osama bin Laden and in taking out some of his cohorts in drone attacks.

But she tells NBC's "Meet the Press" that Obama "is allowing the ACLU to run the CIA," complaining that it was wrong to ban waterboarding.

Bachmann argued in Saturday night's foreign policy debate for reinstituting waterboarding. She said the intelligence community has been deprived of the ability it once had to get vital information from detainees in the war against terrorism. The Minnesota congresswoman said Gauntanamo isn't a long-term solution and that "we have no jails for terrorists."

That claim is not true, FactCheck.org points out in an analysis of Saturday night's debate: "There are currently more than 1,700 men being held without trial at the Bagram Air Base in Afghanistan."

National Journal also calls into question Bachmann's claim:

Under Obama's watch, the U.S. has maintained -- and expanded -- the size of its secretive prisons in Afghanistan; opened up new detention facilities on the island of Diego Garcia; and opened up new facilities in the African nation of Somalia. In addition, the Guantanamo Bay detention facility remains open, and terror suspects held there continue to be interrogated.

Bachmann was not the only GOP candidate to call for the renewed use of torture Saturday night.

The Huffington Post's Josh Hersh reports:

Cain also provided one of the most striking moments when he argued in favor of the use of "enhanced interrogation" -- including the now-rejected technique of waterboarding -- in the fight against terrorism, a proposal that is likely to outrage many who thought the era of American-sponsored torture was over.

Attempting to parse his answer by suggesting that he did "not agree with torture, period," but instead supported "enhanced interrogation," Cain said he would rely on the military to decide which techniques were acceptable.

"I will trust the judgment of our military to determine what is torture and what is not torture," Cain said. Asked about waterboarding in particular, he replied, "I would return to that policy. I don't see it as torture, I see it as an enhanced interrogation technique."

Both Representative Michele Bachmann (R-Minn.) and Texas Governor Rick Perry agreed with Cain, with Perry drawing sustained applause when declared, "This is war." Of the use of waterboarding and other techniques, he added, "I will defend them until I die."

...

Only Representative Ron Paul (R-Texas) and former Utah Governor Jon Huntsman, who used the foreign policy debate to bolster his image as the experienced statesman of the current crop of Republican candidates, challenged the logic of the brutal tactic.

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chykim1
sexy geek
10:57 PM on 05/26/2012
doesnt suprise me...that she has no problem with torture, ever listened to one of her hate spewing speaches...theyre down right tortuous!!
07:40 PM on 04/27/2012
She hasn't heard the (CIA-coined) term "blowback", has she.

You can't pretend that you're on the side of goodness and right when you're doing to others what you tell them not to do to each other.
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JoeQPublic for President
12:37 AM on 02/23/2012
Fascist downfall of America, as Eisenhower predicted in 1961
http://www.JustBelieve2012.com
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Robert Lee Harrington
I'd Love To Change The World..
02:47 AM on 12/14/2011
More Tea Bag Republican Chicken Hawks
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mrmyfld1
The phantom
05:49 PM on 12/01/2011
Bachmann has no concept of what waterboarding is.....for all purposes, she thinks its the diving board at a pool.
09:55 PM on 11/16/2011
Perhaps Ms. Bachmann should experience waterboarding on a personal level, to see just how "uncomfortable" it is!
bampiesdude
Thats my story and I'm stickin to it
05:53 PM on 11/20/2011
Uncomfortable, yes; torture, no; it is enhanced interrogation. Have you experienced it on a personal level?
08:54 PM on 11/26/2011
Wow, since you are so good at determining what is and is not torture, maybe you would like to volunteer to be water-boarded live on LiveStream.com. I am also interested in testing whether you think another enhanced technique involving Columbus Dry Salami is torture or enhanced interrogation.
07:41 PM on 04/27/2012
"Enhanced interrogation" is a euphemism for torture. Just say torture, and stop trying to cover it up with a new name for an old reality.
11:30 PM on 11/15/2011
According to Bachmann, she obviously doesn't believe in keeping your word. We are the same country that executed Japanese military for waterboarding our military during WWII. We signed the Geneva Convention that lists waterboarding as torture. Calling it enhanced interrogation doesn't mean a thing, changing the name won't change it from a means of torture to a means of approved interrogation. Michele, you obviously believe there is no need for the U.S. to keep their word, whether it's the Geneva Convention or the agreement we came to with Iraq regarding our leaving at the end of the year. Therefore, there's no reason for us to trust anything you say. Thanks for warning us. It's not that you ever had a chance but it's nice to see the real person in case you try to run for another elected office.
bampiesdude
Thats my story and I'm stickin to it
06:04 PM on 11/20/2011
The word that stands out is military. Japanese military and the United States military, both recognized military of another country and covered by the Geneva convention since they are the recognized military of a country. Enemy combatants are not protected under the Geneva convention as they are not part of a country's military. Afghanistan, Iraq, Syria, and Iran all have a military; if you are not in the military and are just an enemy combatant or terrorist then you should not expect to have rights and protections.
07:43 PM on 04/27/2012
So because they're not military they're fair game. I'm an Australian citizen. If I travel to the US and someone suggests to the authorities that I might be a security risk I face torture?

Pass.
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Sistagirl Young
03:25 PM on 11/15/2011
Let me see if I got this straight? If other nations use certain procedures durin' interrogations it's torture. When it's the United States it's enhanced interrogation technique. Man, and to think I figured this out all by meself. Life.
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Djay0252
America needs to Bless God
09:50 AM on 11/16/2011
Yes you did ..fanned & faved
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Sistagirl Young
10:26 AM on 11/16/2011
Hello Djay252; Thank you very kindly for the F & F. First time I was F & F I hadn't a clue. The person who was so kind to F & F me was gracious enough to explain. Now here I am usin' the same abbreviations. I feel so computer literate. But just between me, you and the lampost I ain't. Have a good day. Thanks again. Life.
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Sistagirl Young
12:53 AM on 11/17/2011
Hello Djay0252; Thank you my Brotha. I hear you clear and loud. GOD? Where HE is is where I be. Praise the LORD. One cain't go wrong with GOD. In the opinion of me, myself, and I. In the words of the Dramatics. Thank you for the prayer. And may HIS bounty be yours always. Life.
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p456
Walking Tall.
10:43 AM on 11/15/2011
I thought Christians were suppose to treat others like they want to be treated.
12:35 PM on 11/17/2011
She is not a Christian.
bampiesdude
Thats my story and I'm stickin to it
06:07 PM on 11/20/2011
That's true and that might be one reason why we "all fall short of the Glory of God"
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p456
Walking Tall.
08:31 AM on 11/21/2011
Speak for yourself there is no God that I fall short of, I always say keep your religion to yourself.
09:36 AM on 11/15/2011
Michele Bachmann: Obama Was Wrong To Ban Waterboarding

And people were wrong by ever electing you into office.
11:57 PM on 11/14/2011
Our enemies will show the same kind of treatment to anyone of our soldiers captured in the battlefield. This stand of condoning torture will have its consequences in the torture cells of both sides.
08:36 PM on 11/18/2011
Our soldiers are tortured regardless.

Our enemies are no "civil" Europeans and their "civil" rules of war.

Our enemies act more like the Red Army/Werhmacht on the Easern Front than the German/Allied Western Front.

Either way the US is above this barbaric sort of behavior. Or at the least it should be. But then again if America (and Western Civilization for thatmatter) wants to talk integrity and morals and enlightenment, then waterboarding is just one of many issues.
TROP10
Na mas te
11:44 PM on 11/14/2011
Michelle LIKES torture.... actually most of us might prefer waterboarding to her incessantly irrelevant rambling....
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pherron lowe
i know it when i see it - potter stewart
08:19 PM on 11/14/2011
Why does she stop at ..waterboarding..I'm told a electric shock..to certain parts of the body..will make you say..ANYTHING...
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rationalitymatters
Captain of my Soul
05:54 PM on 11/14/2011
Since Bachmann, Cain and Perry seem out of the loop when it comes to the secretive detention facilities the US government maintains, she might want to check with FactCheck.org before making false assertions. That way she won't look silly. And if we check FactCheck.org before accepting at face value any of their assertions, we won't look silly.
03:43 PM on 11/14/2011
Outrageous that some of our elected officials consider this okay.