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After Obama-Dolan Meeting, Bishops Welcome Dialogue as Concerns Remain

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First Posted: 11/14/11 10:09 PM ET Updated: 11/14/11 10:09 PM ET

By David Gibson
Religion News Service

BALTIMORE (RNS) The standoff between the White House and the nation's Catholic bishops over gay marriage and other hot-button issues may be easing after a quiet Oval Office meeting between President Obama and the head of the U.S. Conference of Catholic Bishops.

Still, Archbishop Timothy Dolan of New York and other prelates made it clear at their annual meeting on Monday (Nov. 14) that they still see an array of threats that pose an imminent danger to the church's freedom unless sufficient religious exemptions are granted.

Dolan, president of the bishops' conference, described his Nov. 8 meeting with Obama -- first reported on Saturday by the National Catholic Reporter -- as "extraordinarily friendly."

"It was very candid. I would say there were areas of agreement and disagreement," Dolan told reporters at the bishops' gathering.

"But I would say this: that I found the president of the United States to be very open to the sensitivities of the Catholic community that were worried about an intrusion into religious liberty."

Dolan said Obama was "very sensitive" to the bishops' concerns over gay marriage and insurance mandates to provide artificial birth control coverage as part of the new health care reform law.

"He was very ardent in his desire to assure me that this is something he will look long and hard at. And I left there feeling a bit more at peace about this issue than when I entered."

That sentiment, coming after Dolan's first face-to-face meeting with Obama since he was elected to lead the bishops last year, marks a sea change from tense relations between the U.S. hierarchy and the administration.

Beyond the administration's decision not to enforce a federal ban against gay marriage, the bishops are worried that state efforts to legalize gay marriage or allow civil unions will force them to choose between the law and their moral beliefs.

That conflict grew deeper in August when the Department of Health and Human Services announced regulations that would require all health insurance policies to provide contraception at no extra cost. Catholic bishops and others say an exemption for religious groups is so narrow as to be meaningless.

The bishops say the decisions represent a pervasive hostility to religious groups, and they've established a new Committee for Religious Liberty to defend the church's interests in Washington.

The policy jousting has been matched by escalating rhetorical broadsides from the bishops. Cardinal Francis George of Chicago, Dolan's immediate predecessor as head of the bishops' conference, has called Obama's White House "the most secularist administration in history."

Last week, Auxiliary Bishop James D. Conley of Denver told an anti-abortion group in Dallas that he believes the U.S. "is becoming what I would call an 'atheocracy' -- a society that is actively hostile to religious faith and religious believers."

The fight over religious freedom is a central theme of the bishops' fall meeting. On Monday, Bishop William E. Lori of Bridgeport, Conn., head of the new religious liberty committee, told the bishops that "both law and culture are indeed establishing un-religion as the religion of the land."

"This and more have led to dramatic and immediate threats to religious liberty across our land," Lori warned.

But Lori and Dolan both pointed out that they believe the church is facing strong cultural headwinds, not just a hostile administration.

"We see in our culture a drive to neuter religion," Dolan said, warning of a campaign backed by "well-financed, well-oiled sectors, to push religion back into the sacristy."

And, referring to the church's own flock, he added, "We have to realize that a whole chunk of our people are not with us."

In his opening speech Monday, Dolan issued a "mea culpa" of sorts for the church's own contribution to their recent decline.

"With contrition and deep regret, we acknowledge that the members of the church -- starting with us -- are sinners, indeed," Dolan told the 300 bishops. "One thing both sides of the Catholic ideological spectrum at last agree upon is the answer to this question: just who is to blame for people getting mad at or leaving the church?"

"Their unanimous answer?" He looked out at the gathering and spread his arms with a smile, saying, "Nice to meet you!"

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01:55 AM on 11/27/2011
Can someone help me out here? How does granting marriage equality to loving and committed gay and lesbian couples, an intrusion on the religious liberty of the Catholic Church? Unless the Church is forced to marry gay and lesbian people "sacramentally", Dolan's argument is inane. The irony is that the Catholic Church wants the government of the American people to suppress civil liberty for gay and lesbian people in the name of it's "religious liberty".

I continue to be amazed by the arrogance and audacity of the Catholic Church. This organization has committed some of the most heinous crimes against humanity, and gotten away with them. And their crimes continue today through the molestation and cover up of the sexual molestation of children now on a global level. This (the clergy) is a group of men who refuse to fall in love under the guise of celibacy, which some say is "unnatural". This is a group of men who continue to house sex offenders even to this day. Why would any reasonable person give any credibility to these men on the subject of human intimacy and sexuality? Let's not forget too that it was Mussolini who signed the Lateran Treaty in 1929 that made the Vatican a nation unto itself.
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Mark Twaine
01:24 PM on 11/27/2011
Dolan carried the Pope's message to Obama: I am going to destroy you!
02:37 PM on 11/27/2011
I shouldn't be surprised about Ratzinger. Doesn't that constitute a national threat, possibly a terroristic threat? The Pope's representatives should be deported if the Pope indeed vows to destroy our government. If some Muslim leader said that, he'd be out of this country before you could blink. Where did you get this information?
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From the Raft
11:35 PM on 11/20/2011
I suppose he asked the President for more money too.
06:48 PM on 11/15/2011
It's outrageous for religious officials to have any say in political decisions. Obama should have politely told him to "F... off".

When a church operates in the secular world, they have to follow the law. End of discussion. They can refuse to marry whoever they want, but there can't be any exemptions for schools or hospitals
07:54 PM on 11/18/2011
LOL you are so out of touch with reality.
03:00 AM on 11/15/2011
President Obama------don,t take any notice of anything these Bishops say.They,re anti this + anti that but can,t even get their priests / bishops to stop harming our children.
When Rome sends home Cardinal Law to face his legal problems, when Bishops stop obstructing priest sex allegations, when they report new sex crimes to the police in the first instance , when there is a new Pope etc + etc. Maybe then can the Catholic church begin to show that they can be trusted.
In the meantime, I wouldn,t even waste the time of day with them.
07:55 PM on 11/18/2011
Duh, the Catholic Church is the only institution left that will actually save the world.
02:33 AM on 11/27/2011
Let's see..... How is this institution going to save the world as you declare?.... By signing a concordant with Hitler in 1933? By ridding the planet of Jews through torture? By ridding the planet of Muslims through "Holy Wars"? By burning to death women who were in touch with nature? By burning to death gay people for existing? By supressing the rights of women? By castrating boys so they can sign "castrano" in the choir? By sexually molesting children, most likely through the centuries, then blaming it on even moral, responsible, loving homosexuals? By laundering mafia money through the Vatican Bank? This is one helluva way to save the world.
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One more Thing
11:42 PM on 11/14/2011
Surely the White House will release official photographs of the President greeting the Archbishop.

I'm literally DIEING to see which of the FAB-B-B-U-U-U-LOUS garments he chose to wrap around his holy derriere for the meeting!