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Republican Presidential Candidates Would Limit Federal Role In Education

Republican Presidential Candidates Education

KIMBERLY HEFLING   11/14/11 08:51 AM ET   AP

WASHINGTON — When it comes to education, the Republican field of presidential candidates has a unified stance: Get the federal government out of schools. How they'd do that varies.

Take the Education Department. Reps. Michele Bachmann and Ron Paul along with Texas Gov. Rick Perry want to shut it down altogether, while Rick Santorum and Newt Gingrich want to shrink it. Offering student loans? Herman Cain says the department should get out of that business.

And then there's the Bush-era education accountability law, No Child Left Behind. Perry calls it a "direct assault on federalism," while former Utah Gov. Jon Huntsman has long expressed animosity toward the law.

Although former Massachusetts Gov. Mitt Romney has said "we need to get the federal government out of education," he has been more willing to praise certain Education Department policies.

While polls show that voters clearly care about education, it hasn't been a driving issue in the race. Instead, it percolates at times. When it does, the dialogue – like many other issues in the race – has been primarily focused on the general theme of limiting the federal role more than on specific education policies.

Any comments of praise of a federal education policy can lead to accusations that a candidate supports federal overreach, said Frederick Hess, director of education policy studies at the American Enterprise Institute.

For example, after Romney praised the Education Department's "Race to the Top" program, which has had states competing for billions in grant dollars, Perry called Romney out on it during a Sept. 22 debate saying, "Being in favor of the Obama `Race to the Top,' that is not conservative."

Generally, the candidates support more school choice options for students.

Limiting the federal government's role in education isn't a new argument among conservatives, many of whom disagreed with the decision to create a Cabinet-level department during the Carter administration.

President George W. Bush took a different view. He campaigned heavily in 2000 on the passage of No Child Left Behind and the need for tough assessment standards, specifically to help low income and minority children. Under No Child Left Behind, which was signed in 2002 with widespread bipartisan support, students are tested annually and schools that don't meet proficiency requirements face sanctions. The law, however, has become increasingly unpopular with critics saying it's too rigid, led to schools being unfairly deemed as "failures" and to teachers teaching to the test.

Many other Republicans went along – at least early on.

Santorum voted for the law.

When Texas' plan on No Child Left Behind was approved in 2002, Perry proudly said that "Texas was a model" for the national law and that the approval meant Texas would receive almost $400 million in new federal funding.

And in 2005, Romney testified on Capitol Hill in praise of the law. "I do look to the federal government to help set the benchmark where we can compare to how well we are performing, and, if we are not performing, to insist that we do the job or that we suffer the consequences at the state or local level," Romney said.

The candidates' records on education are revealing.

Bachmann has said she was driven to first run for office because of concerns over the education her more than 20 foster children were receiving. Two years ago, Gingrich hit the road with the Rev. Al Sharpton, a liberal civil right advocate, on a listening tour on education that Education Secretary Arne Duncan joined.

Huntsman, as Utah governor, signed a law in 2005 that defied the No Child Left Behind Act by giving the state's education standards priority over the federal requirements.

Perry has refused to have Texas adopt curriculum standards adopted by nearly every state or have his state compete in the Race to the Top competition, saying it "smacks of a federal takeover of public schools." Perry's positions helped earn him a rebuff by Duncan that he felt "very, very badly for the children" of Texas.

Romney used to support closing the Education Department, but in 2007 he said he'd come to see the value of the federal government's role.

In recent months, President Barack Obama has brought education back into the national political realm. He announced states could apply for waivers around many of the proficiency requirements in No Child Left Behind if they met certain requirements. He advocated for the passage of a jobs creation bill rejected by the Senate that included $30 billion to hire educators.

And, Obama announced he was using executive authority to allow potentially millions of qualified students and college graduates to consolidate their loans and accelerate a program that based payment options on income.

The announcement on student loans sparked some discussion among the GOP candidates at a forum. Bachmann said Obama's effort was an "abuse of power" that will give people incentives to dodge debt. Gingrich said government loans should be reprivatized before Obama bankrupts the entire country "by promising to every young person you will not have to pay your student loan as a student."

And Cain said that, "I do not believe it's the responsibility of the federal government to help fund college education."

Margaret Spellings, who served as education secretary under Bush, said the anti-federal talk on education among GOP candidates concerns her. She said the candidates should be speaking primarily about the needs of kids over adults and better ways to close achievement gaps and educate poor and minority kids – things she said she's not hearing about as much as she'd like. She said she wonders what would happen to important programs under a dissolved Education Department, such as educating disabled children.

"The federal role in education has always been around the needs of poor and disadvantaged kids, so I'd like to see the focus on that, I'd like to see talk of accountability," Spellings said.

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Kimberly Hefling can be followed at http://twitter.com/khefling

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WASHINGTON — When it comes to education, the Republican field of presidential candidates has a unified stance: Get the federal government out of schools. How they'd do that varies. Take the Edu...
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jesupax
12:15 PM on 12/26/2011
I see on post refers to the Dept. of Education as a "bureaucratic waste". Before ignorance takes over as it has for the GOP candidates, one should research why the Dept. was created in the first place. I did that with ask.com. I learned the history of the department dating back to 1867. I urge the reader to take a look at it yourself ... interesting history from then until now. Secondly, a very small percentage of the federal budget goes to the national education ... about 10%. The rest of the funding comes from state and local government. There is a whole lot more ... whole lot ... in redundancy and and duplication of government agencies. These involve lobbyist, special interest, high profit corporations and millionaires though so no one is going after that for cuts or fair taxes. This leaves social security, medicare, education and other relatively defenseless agencies for candidates to go after (although the AARP has come to power). We are still paying for thousand dollar toilet seats somewhere in the world (e.g. rebuilding infrastructure war adversaries) ! Final analysis ... GOP needs education! LOL
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gypsy508
12:36 PM on 11/16/2011
The Department of Education is a bureaucratic waste. It's unnecessary and hasn't achieved any of the goals for which it was started. Basically it has resulted in an increase and over-reliance on standardized tests so that bureaucrats far removed from the classroom can tell what is going on as well as putting education in the hands of politicians. Every four to eight years the curriculum is going to change at the expense of schools and probably students as well.
12:21 PM on 11/16/2011
They should limit the role the Fed has in education. First of all the Fed cannot make or demand any school system do anything which means it is a paper tiger. The states and locals can tell the Feds to pound sand if they do not take the strings-attached money offered by the Feds. The Feds also don't educate anyone and is hopelessly inadequate to be nice about it. Our system wasn't designed for the Feds to do so and it is incapable of doing a decent job at education.
10:58 AM on 11/16/2011
"Republican Presidential Candidates Would Limit Federal Role In Education" because any educated person would never believe, let alone vote for, any of the their self-serving (and donor-corporate serving) agenda's.
Why do the people most qualified to lead our country end up as either educators or scientists?
10:12 AM on 11/16/2011
I find it hilarious that it has always been on Ron Paul's agenda to take the Federal government out of education and it is only discussed now that the others are mimicking his stance on the issue and he isn't even mentioned in the article. You would think that after months of this the media (this includes you KIMBERLY HEFLING) would provide Dr. Paul with the recognition he deserves.
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Solar Bear
Freethinking in one age = common sense in the next
10:30 AM on 11/15/2011
Something about that photo just makes me wish for a lot of weak floor boards.
09:25 AM on 11/15/2011
Most public school teachers and parents actually agree with this. What has the federal dept. done besides dumb down curriculum?
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ttsgw
Atheist and secular humanist
06:02 AM on 11/15/2011
As ignorance and greed are the two main republicans virtues, the less and worse education, the better. And sadly enough this is supported by a lot of Americans. This is obvious when listen to the GOP hopefuls and realise that there are Americans that can consider voting for any of them.
12:22 PM on 11/16/2011
Obviously you are the product of the inferior educational system. Spew stupid falsehoods, ASSume they are correct and walk away....great advertisement for what the Feds have reproduced you are.
05:14 AM on 11/15/2011
Not to say that the federal government can't play a role in education, but I think most of us can agree that their role as of now isn't working.
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accautotrainer
"Basing opinion on facts!"
04:21 AM on 11/15/2011
The GOTP positon is to "privatize" any and all entities which are being run by the Federal Government. Does the GOTP not realize that our future is dependent on the education of our children for tomorrow? Currently, our nation suffers dramatically from low scores in math and science and yet, they want to get the government "out of the way," leading one to believe that private organizations can do better. Of course, the argument that will be brought to my attention is as follows: If math and science is currently suffering in our educational system, is that not a reflection of the government's failure?" To which my response is a resounding no! The government is not doing enough and this is where the problem falls. Further, with several states with GOTP leadership, drastic cuts have been made whereby it is nearly impossible to teach the diversity of students coming into the school system. These people want our educators to do more with less: THIS is the problem.

Furthermore, this current President has done something which has reaped nothing but criticism from the GOTP which is he took the middle man out of student loans lowering interest rates for all. Originally, I had an interest rate on student loans of 7.5%, and it has now decreased to 3.0%. The difference? The corporation respsonsible for servicing my loans received a huge cut of the pie, making me beholden to them.

We simply cannot go backwards by electing one of these candidates.
12:31 PM on 11/16/2011
Education is NOT run by the Federal government. You should do your home work before writing a long rant that doesn't apply to the subject of the article...
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accautotrainer
"Basing opinion on facts!"
04:22 PM on 11/16/2011
First, I did not come up with the title of the article: "Republican Presidential candidates would limit Federal role in education." Second, I never directly stated the federal government ran education. You should stop commenting to other people's comments (who are simply exercising their first amenmdment right), before telling them what to do on this site because last I heard you don't own it.
08:18 PM on 11/16/2011
1. You said that the GOP wants to privatize all entities run by the Federal government and education is not an entity run by the Federal government. If you do not understand such a basic thing about what the Federal government control vis-a-vis education then you should probably retake American Government 101.

2. You have exercised your right to speak your mind and speak gobble-dee-gook. I have exercised my right to comment on the gobble-dee-gook you posted.

3. I did not tell you what to do. Please go back and reread my post, I'll wait here.........OK, notice I said you should do your home work - that is suggestion.

4. Your lack of understanding of the basics of the division of powers between the separate governments in the USA combined with your lack of reading comprehension wrapped up in your desire to publicly say whatever you desire but then try to deny someone else that same right in regard to addressing your public comment is disturbing to say the least. If you dislike having your opinions challenged you should cease providing them to millions of people in an open forum.
12:15 AM on 11/15/2011
If the States would recognize their responsibility to educate their children, there wouldn't be a problem. However, my state (FL), has slashed the education budget. The Lottery was supposed to augment school funds, instead it has taken the place of state funding. Gov. Scott and the legislature are in favor of privatizing schools--where is the money for that going to come from, and who sets the standards? I live in the fourth poorest county in the state and the school system--as much as I hate the term--sucks. I'd welcome Federal support, the more the better.
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happyblackman
Gotta have more cowbell baby!
06:00 PM on 11/14/2011
What's new about this?
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OceanFilmProd
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06:19 PM on 11/14/2011
My new friend, definitely more cowbell!!!!!!!!

This one is for you --
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HEyY6LEUWUw
Keep smiling :)
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happyblackman
Gotta have more cowbell baby!
07:14 AM on 11/15/2011
LMAO! It's been a while since I've seen this! Thanks!
05:57 PM on 11/14/2011
Having the government involved in schools is just a device for promoting various ideologies and providing a place for negotiating centrallly instead of meeting the specific of the areas that are impact. Different states have different needs and within a state local schools have specific needs. While I believe the state can set performance standards the schools should have more freedom to develop the appropriate resources they need based on their specific needs.
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Makos62
Time is an illusion. Lunchtime doubly so.
09:55 PM on 11/14/2011
So, for example, Southern states can teach how the KKK is fundamentally a freedom organization, and Northern states can teach how the idiot Southerners still want slavery.But let's not have a unified authority that tries to keep our schools moving into the future, and not backward like Michele Bachmann wants, where school children will be taught Paul Revere warned the British!
11:06 PM on 11/14/2011
I think you've really taken what I said to new limits. But you know that.
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11:34 AM on 11/15/2011
Just want to toss an idea out there -
A Google search will show there are many independent national associations of various teachers, all grades, all topics. Likewise, every state has its own educational board.

Now, what if the standards to be taught in public schools were determined, not by federal paper pushers, but by these national associations? What if the actual teachers decided the standards and methods to educate our children? What if the $3 billion we are currently paying just to support the federal DoE salaries and office rent was put back into the states?

Consider our local and state education communities - they are elected officials, we vote who sits on the local school boards. We have control there. We do not have control at the federal level. We can't do anything about school program cut backs because of reduced federal funding.
(Side note - how does anyone justify increasing bureaucratic spending by reducing educational programs? It boggles the mind.)

Now, combine the two - national standards and methods established by the teachers in the classroom and accountability of locally elected school supervisors.

I could live with that.
04:50 PM on 11/14/2011
The system under federal control...half the kids drop out, most can't read well enough to access the printed word... but they all seem to know how to put a condom on a banana, The bum Carter gave the unions a pay day in establishing the Education Dept. The loser that he was is well documented.
09:28 PM on 11/14/2011
If you actually set out to write a comment that would show that you're uninformed or misinformed in as many ways as possible, you couldn't do it better than that.
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Makos62
Time is an illusion. Lunchtime doubly so.
09:57 PM on 11/14/2011
If it is well documented, it must be by the individuals who want to rid the US of schools, like the clowns standning on the stage in the photo to this story.
04:42 PM on 11/14/2011
That little brat needs to get nailed! I'll bet you anything that she has had previous behavior problems. Maybe she is "Severely Emotionally Disturbed"?
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myj
06:55 PM on 11/14/2011
Who? Michele Bachmann? or wrong post LOL
12:24 PM on 11/15/2011
My bad! Wrong post. I thought I was responding to the article about that horrible girl who was charged with a felony.