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Millionaires On Capitol Hill: Tax Us More

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By LAURIE KELLMAN   11/16/11 08:10 PM ET   AP

WASHINGTON -- Lobbyists for a day, a band of millionaires stormed Capitol Hill on Wednesday to urge Congress to tax them more.

They had a little trouble getting in. It turns out there are procedures, even for the really rich.

But once inside, their message was embraced by liberals and tolerated by some conservatives – including the ideological leader of anti-tax lawmakers, who had some advice for them, too.

"If you think the federal government can spend your money better than you can, then by all means" pay more in taxes than you owe, said Grover Norquist, of Americans for Tax Reform, a group that has gotten almost all congressional Republicans to pledge to vote against tax hikes. The IRS should have a little line on the form where people can donate money to the government, he suggested, "just like the tip line on a restaurant receipt."

One of the millionaires suggested that if Norquist wanted low taxes and less government, "Renounce your American citizenship and move to Somalia where they don't collect any tax."

In the silence left by the private efforts of the "supercommittee" to find $1.2 trillion or more in deficit cuts by Thanksgiving, free advice flowed in public.

And not just any advice: pie-in-the-sky suggestions from those not connected to the talks, mostly to reopen debates that have led nowhere. The millionaires want the panel to raise taxes on people who earn more than $1 million, even though most Republicans are committed against the idea. And 150 House member and senators urged a much bigger debt-and-deficit deal, even as a small-scope agreement is proving elusive.

While they were at it, the lawmakers insisted that bipartisanship was not, in fact, dead.

This group of House members and senators shared a stage and some jokes and signed a letter urging the supercommittee of Republicans and Democrats to find the required $1.2 trillion in cuts – plus about $2.8 trillion more. They all want the panel to avoid triggering automatic cuts as a penalty for failing.

So this uneasy alliance of 150 Republicans and Democrats will vote for whatever deal the supercommittee strikes?

"No," said House Democratic Whip Steny Hoyer. "Nobody's going to commit to the deal until they see the deal."

What deal? There is no evidence that one is near, so the millionaires tried to meet with anyone who would meet with them.

The progressive caucus did, eagerly and on-camera. The rest wasn't so easy.

At a basement entrance to the Capitol, a police officer pointed to the name badges that identified each wearer as "Patriotic Millionaire."

"That is not a visitor's badge," the officer said. "Go to the visitors desk and get a visitor's badge."

Off they trudged, a group mostly of men in business-casual clothing toting laptops and umbrellas, to a desk visited by tourists and lobbyists. Badges secured, they headed in.

Lawrence Benenson, vice president of Benenson Capitol Co., ran into freshman Rep. Kristi Noem, R-S.D., in an elevator.

"I'm with the Patriotic Millionaires and we want to pay more in taxes," he told her.

Noem grinned.

"How much more?" she asked.

Then it was off to meet, not with senators but their staffs – and not in the Capitol but in offices across the street.

Progress was not made, by all accounts.

A meeting with an aide to Sen. Jon Kyl, R-Ariz., opened with his aide announcing that the senator believes the wealthy pay more taxes than their fair share, according to one of the millionaires, Matthew Palevsky, a consultant and founder of the Council on Crime Prevention.

"We defined it as not paying our fair share," Palevsky said of the 20-minute chat. "It was clear we were coming from different points of view."

In a meeting with Rep. Ralph Hall, R-Texas, the congressman faux-proposed – apparently – to an aide to the millionaires. She declined.

Then it was off, on a bus not a limo, across town to see Norquist.

Why were they bothering with him?

"That's what I asked this morning," said one of the millionaires, Frank Jernigan, a former senior software engineer for Google.

"It's a media hook," offered another, Guy Saperstein, a retired lawyer and former president of the Sierra Club Foundation.

Such candor is not the norm in these parts.

For his part, Norquist said he was ready for the group with a tongue-in-cheek Torah lesson: Maimonides and his "eight degrees of charity." That's what Norquist says the millionaires are essentially proposing with their tax-me-more pitch. Perhaps there should be a ninth, Norquist suggested.

"Nobody's holding them back" from donating money to the federal government, he said as he prepared for the group's arrival. "They're saying, `Gee, I'd sure like to write a big check to the federal government, if someone would just stop stopping me.'"

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Associated Press writer Larry Margasak contributed to this report.

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WASHINGTON -- Lobbyists for a day, a band of millionaires stormed Capitol Hill on Wednesday to urge Congress to tax them more. They had a little trouble getting in. It turns out there are procedures,...
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Just Admit IT
At home I was taught America didn’t see in color
12:32 PM on 11/15/2012
True American Millionaires !!!
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TerrorTweet
02:41 PM on 11/19/2011
All tax's need to be voluntary if the government uses force to get peoples money then it's theft.
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mazzo
02:20 PM on 11/19/2011
Why would any rich person complain about a tax increase of 4%? Going from 35% to 39% is hardly anything to complain about!

BTW, from 1954 to 1963, income above $400k was taxed at 91%....91%!!!! (and those were prosperous times in which we had stellar education and better health care...go figure!)

I'm in the top 0.1%, household earnings well above $1million a year and I don't mind one bit if we have a 4% increase in our taxes, our country needs all the help it can get and simply put, I can afford to give more!
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rpaul6
09:30 PM on 11/19/2011
First, I don't believe you. Second you know that with state taxes, local tax, property tax, etc the government gets more of your money than your family does. That is WRONG. I think I can spend my money and share my money much better than Nancy Pelosi or Barney Frank.
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DFL
Limousine liberal
02:08 PM on 11/19/2011
See that republicans, they are not greedy like you guys are.
12:58 PM on 11/19/2011
Posted?WHEN???
11:04 AM on 11/19/2011
They are a bunch of lying hypocrites. A news reporter had asked many of these millionaires to donate what they deemed their fair share to the system and all of them declined to do so. Some making comments "not me personally" The liberals really are going all out on this one with their smug & arrogant millionaires pretending to want to pay more. Can't wait to see scene 2 act 1. 2012 can't get here quick enough. Don't listen to what they say, it's always a contradiction. Which was proven by the reporter who asked them to donate more. Just watch what they do...
12:43 PM on 11/19/2011
Grover Norquist's RepubliCON talking points are a sickening anathema to human beings!
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jandos
Realistically optimistic
10:51 AM on 11/19/2011
Whether or not they have voluntarily donated more than they've owed in taxes, I think they deserve some credit for trying a different tactic to bring light to the situation.
10:43 AM on 11/19/2011
These millionaires are decent. They want the other millionaires to pay their fair share of taxes. Why should they take from this country and not give anything back?
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rpaul6
09:32 PM on 11/19/2011
Obama speak,,,,fair share my butt. We pay MORE than our fair share. I am sick of this fair share argument. I pay about HALF OF MY TOTAL INCOME TO STATE LOCAL AND FEDERAL TAX. No go ahead and say I'm a liar.
10:22 AM on 11/19/2011
This is the stupidest debate of all time. The Dems claim that the Bush tax cuts are terrible. We need to raise revenues .... As of the end of 2012, the Bush Tax cuts expire AUTOMATICALLY, restoring the tax rates to the so loved Clinton era. The Dems dont have to do ANYTHING. Their so loved increases in taxes will come with out a single act of Congress. It will generate an estimated $4T in new revenues over the next 10 years. All that beautiful green to waste at the hands of Congress.
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AndyWright68
Freedom is inevitable!
09:38 AM on 11/19/2011
They don't want to pay more. They could do that without government force. They just want the government to threaten others into paying.
04:33 AM on 11/19/2011
If they won't take it ...then donate it to America. Oh wait ...could it just be a front to make you look like nice wealthy people. You've had your 10 seconds of fame, just write a check and "show me the money."
09:30 PM on 11/18/2011
Why raise taxes? If you look at the numbers, more money is coming into the Treasury than ever before in our history with the current tax rates. The problem is spending. It's like a parent giving a credit card to their kid for emergencies, then the kid running up the card and complaining the parent isn't paying the bill. Same thing.
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seegray
Nobody can bring you peace but yourself (Emerson)
01:58 AM on 11/19/2011
Of course more money is coming in.....did you notice that our population increases each and every year?

[psssstttt....that also means more money needs to be going out]
10:36 AM on 11/19/2011
Is the money coming from overseas?
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06:51 PM on 11/18/2011
Funny, in that picture. I fail to see, Nancy Pelosi, Al Gore, John Kerry or Harry Reid.
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CivilDebate10
Low Info People = Statism's Best Friends
04:26 PM on 11/18/2011
A bunch of guilt ridden hypocrites. Any of these jokers who has not voluntarily paid more taxes has no legitimacy whatsoever.
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angry in ct
They speak English in What?
07:43 PM on 11/18/2011
Pathetic.
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seegray
Nobody can bring you peace but yourself (Emerson)
01:59 AM on 11/19/2011
Riiight. Because we should have a government run entirely off of voluntary donations, so people like you can get a free ride.

I don't think so...
03:08 PM on 11/18/2011
You go millionaires ! You are true American patriots !
10:49 PM on 11/18/2011
They realize that freedom isn't free.