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Super Committee Cuts Could Pose New Risk To U.S. Economy

Super Committee Spending Cuts

CHRISTOPHER S. RUGABER and DANIEL WAGNER   11/18/11 11:51 AM ET   AP

WASHINGTON — Just as the U.S. economy is making progress despite Europe's turmoil, here come two new threats.

A congressional panel is supposed to agree by Thanksgiving on a deficit-reduction package of at least $1.2 trillion. If it fails, federal spending would automatically be cut by that amount starting in 2013.

Congress may also let emergency unemployment aid and a Social Security tax cut expire at year's end.

Either outcome could slow growth and spook markets.

Analysts are concerned, but most aren't panicking.

Many say the economy and markets will likely muddle through. It's possible that the supercommittee will reach a partial deal that might limit the impact of the automatic cuts in 2013. Congress could also pass legislation next year to ease the scope or timing of the spending cuts.

And investors expect so little from the congressional panel that they're unlikely to overreact whatever it does.

"There's no doomsday scenario in reducing government spending," said David Kelly of JP Morgan Funds.

The 12-member bipartisan panel, or supercommittee, was created in August to defuse a political standoff over raising the federal borrowing limit. If it can't agree on a deficit-reduction plan, automatic spending cuts would hit programs prized by both parties: social services such as Medicare for Democrats, defense for Republicans.

The panel appears to be deadlocked.

Many economists hoped that an extension of the Social Security tax cuts and unemployment benefits would be part of a supercommittee deal. Congress could extend those benefits separately. But it would be under pressure to offset the cost to avoid raising the deficit.

The Social Security tax cut gave most Americans an extra $1,000 to $2,000 this year. Unemployment benefits provide about $300 a week. Most of that money quickly and directly boosts consumer spending, which drives the economy.

By contrast, an expiration of those benefits could cut growth by about three-quarters of a percentage point, economists say. Throw in other cuts, like those passed in the August debt deal, and all told, federal budget policies could subtract 1.7 percentage points from growth in 2012, according to JPMorgan Chase and Moody's Analytics.

Given the tepid economy, such a hit could be damaging.

"It would be very difficult for an economy that's doing well to digest, let alone one that's barely growing at potential," said Ryan Sweet, an economist at Moody's. "That could unwind a lot of the improvement we've seen so far."

The economy grew at an annual rate of 2.5 percent in the July-September quarter. Some analysts fear it could fall below 2 percent next year, especially if the emergency unemployment benefits and Social Security tax cuts aren't renewed.

The U.S. economy faces other threats, too – from persistently high unemployment to Europe's spreading debt crisis, which could hasten a recession.

If the automatic spending cuts take effect, the defense budget could be cut by nearly $500 billion over nine years. Some contractors are nervous.

Wes Bush, CEO of Northrop Grumman, has told analysts that the company is bracing for spending cuts.

"It's certainly going to be a more challenging environment" next year, he said.

Another wild card: Some investors fear that the supercommittee's failure would spark fresh downgrades of U.S. debt. Standard & Poor's downgraded the government's long-term debt in August. That contributed to a stock market plunge. It's possible that a deadlocked supercommittee would lead the two other major rating agencies – Fitch and Moody's – to follow suit.

Yet S&P's downgrade did little to tarnish U.S. debt. Treasury prices rose, and yields fell. Bond investors still saw Treasurys as a super-safe investment. Federal borrowing costs actually declined.

"S&P showed that when a rating agency downgrades the best-known security in the world, it has little impact," Kelly said. The market for U.S. Treasurys is so broad, accessible and transparent that ratings downgrades don't pose much threat, he noted.

Kelly said Wall Street is unlikely to panic given that expectations for the supercommittee "are so low as to be subterranean."

Even so, some traders appear to be positioning for a shock. So-called "defensive" sectors of the stock market, like healthcare companies and utilities, which tend to retain their value in a weak economy, have been outpacing the S&P 500 index as a whole.

In the past month, the economy has shown surprising strength. Reports this week showed that manufacturers are producing more goods and consumers are spending more. The number of people seeking unemployment benefits for the first time is at a seven-month low.

Still, more than once since the recession officially ended more than two years ago, the economy has displayed vigor only to stumble again. High gas and food prices and Japan's earthquake sharply slowed growth in the first half of the year. Congress' debt-ceiling fight sent consumer confidence to recession levels.

Sweet thinks there's a good chance Congress will end up extending the Social Security tax cut. Partly on that assumption, Moody's foresees 2.6 percent growth next year. For this year, analysts generally estimate less than 2 percent growth.

The supercommittee could also agree on less than $1.2 trillion in cuts. Doing so would reduce the automatic spending cuts that would start in 2013.

Other changes could also be made next year. Tax cuts enacted during the Bush administration, and extended in 2010, are set to expire after 2012. Republicans will push to renew them. Extending those tax cuts, though, could require further spending cuts.

"Given we are dealing with a number of different scenarios with wide-ranging outcomes, it seems foolhardy to try and quantify the economic impact at this juncture," economists at RBC Capital Markets said in a note to clients Friday.

Some economists say the automatic spending cuts could actually boost confidence a bit: They would reassure the world that the U.S. government can make progress in shrinking its deficit.

Even so, the supercommittee seems likely to fall short of its goal to help reduce the federal debt load.

And there's more pressure to come.

Priya Misra, an analyst at Bank of America Merrill Lynch, estimates that Congress will need to find $2 trillion more in cuts by August 2013 to prevent another credit downgrade.

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11:01 PM on 11/20/2011
Are you kidding me?..........an analyst for Merril Lynch says congress needs more cuts in 2013.

Time to close loopholes and start taxing financial transactions..............there are no more cuts that can be made.
07:31 PM on 11/20/2011
No kidding. Pardon my french, but the second they brought Grover Norquists handiwork into the room it was doomed to failure and you can bet its going to hurt both mainstreets economy and the stock market, which many ordinary retiree's and parents raising children for college funds depend on. It was absolutely the stupidest thing to do unless your goal was to totally destablize any certainy in the economy. They can now kick the can down the road to 2013. Fairlure to govern.
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01:11 PM on 11/20/2011
"There's no doomsday scenario in reducing government spending," said David Kelly of JP Morgan Funds.
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For you.
For the 33% of Americans who are now considered poor as the working people in this country slide further down the economic scale, a doomsday scenario.
But I am sure the folks at JP Morgan and their compatriots feel confident that a tick can still get blood out of a dying dog.
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04:07 PM on 11/20/2011
The doomsday scenario is if republicans get elected.
09:41 AM on 11/20/2011
I hear all these liberals commenting on how government spending creates jobs and we cannot cut now or we will hurt job creation. I do not understand this point? They are supposed to cut 1.2 trillion over "TEN YEARS", nothing will be immediate. The problem with that is they have already been shown to waste over 600 billion a year in FRAUD and ABUSE. IT is all listed in a report and noone does anything to fix it. Secondly, I would be all for NOT Cutting if the government was actually efficient and their programs worked. Lets build more schools? Maybe we should get rid of teacher unions and tenure and actually have a system that works before we throw more money in a black hole. Everyone who is mad about cutting needs to understand one thing: They are cutting additional spending so the deficit actually GOES UP even if they cut 5 trillion? Does this not disturb anyone? IF they MAKE A HUGE DEAL we will owe over 20 trillion in 5 years and this is progress.. Someone please explain to me where I am wrong here? I would be happy of they kept spending at current levels instead of increasing 9% each year and lowering to 6% and claiming victory.

As far as the 1%, the problem is the GOVERNMENT, our republican and democratic friends there are BRIBED.. THEY ARE THE ONES WHO TAKE THE MONEY , how can they not be to blame?
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12:53 PM on 11/20/2011
This debate is not about making cuts it's about ideology. Republicans want to dismantle government and democrats want to keep our government or even expand it. If it were just about balancing the deficit your right it would be easy.
06:05 PM on 11/20/2011
I do not understand how anyone would want the government in this state running anything. They cannot do anything simple, their programs are all failing, and unsustainable, and people want to KEEP THE STATUS QUO or expand on it?

Please explain to me how we will not be insolvent in 5 years at 20+ trillion DEBT IF THIS COMMITTEE passes something to cut 4+ trillion.

I pay a ton of money to the gov not sure how I could afford much more...
09:35 AM on 11/20/2011
If they were serious about the economy the dollar would be strengthened and jobs created. I guess Obama is too busy creating a new trade agreement somewhere in the world.
No more money to steal from us-the only dilema the super committee is concerned about.
08:16 AM on 11/20/2011
now we need a Super Super Committee ?? you can call it what you want super, fantastic ,gang of 6 whatever you want, but it wont stop them from robbing us blind
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02:34 AM on 11/20/2011
Republican pushed budget cuts at the state and federal levels have already cost upwards of 1.6 MILLION jobs. Unemployment would likely be around 7.5% otherwise. We need to balance the budget, but we need to do it AFTER the economy recovers, or all we are doing is delaying or outright sabotaging that recovery.
09:48 AM on 11/20/2011
THeir cuts are supposed to be over 10 years sir.. Nothing is immediate even the triggers which probably will not happen since Congress is a sham. Do you honestly believe any member of Congress wants to balance the budget.. You are another oblivious liberal who just takes the side of your party like a sheep following the flock. When will you realize they are destroying our country, both sides.. We owe 20 trillion in a few years.. i guess that is acceptable to you, borrow every dollar we spend.. Sounds like a great situation. I would love to hear how government is going to make us recover? other than wasting our hard earned money.. They are the most corrupt fraud ridden place and you want to give them more.. AWESOME
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01:23 PM on 11/20/2011
You liberals? Since WWII, ALL Democrat administrations, with the exception of this one, have had greater GDP and job growth along with less deficits that Republican administrations. The idea that Republicans are either better for the economy or fiscally conservative is a HOAX. The budget WAS almost balanced before you "conservatives" got a hold of it and blew it up. As it is, most of that foreign debt you so freak out on was created by YOUR side.

THE GREAT REPUBLICAN RECESSION was created by Republican policy and perpetuated through their obstructionism. Every forward advance has been won through SPENDING, whereas every step backwards has been caused by cuts. In other words, sorry. but the ideology that you espouse has been proven wrong time and time again.

Finally, if you think your government is fraud ridden, you have the power to fix it, but the unregulated free market capitalism you want to replace it with is more fraud ridden still, and you have NO control of that at all.
02:25 AM on 11/20/2011
I am NOT impressed....with the super committee, their predicted being deadlocked, or any automatic cuts in 2013.

All the politicians have to do.....is change the law(s) already made.

Simple, easy, and after the usual fighting, posturing, and aggravation, they will probably just change the law to one they like better.

Next crisis.......
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09:45 PM on 11/19/2011
If, "Super Committee Cuts Could Pose New Risk To U.S. Economy," follow Buffett's suggestion.
09:31 AM on 11/19/2011
Those who earn the most in this country pay higher taxes, they think they are too high on them and not high enough on the rest of us. They say they pay 70% of the taxes they can’t stand it. I wonder who they hired to say they paid most of the taxes?

Many of the others are the working poor. They work but it is for too low wages to live a decent life. They cannot pay taxes from their small paycheck.

Many can't find a job. I consider myself lucky when I earn enough to pay taxes.

The biggest problem is that many of the wealthy and big business owners are hogs. They take everything they can from the rest of us.
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12:49 AM on 11/19/2011
Without cuts our debt rating will most likely be downgraded which could increase our borrowing costs by hundreds of billions per year. Just look at what has happened to the debt interest rates for Italy, Spain, Portugal and Greece over the past few weeks.

These politicians need to get their heads out of the sand cause they all are starting to look like ostrich's, especially the Dem's.
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04:42 AM on 11/19/2011
you would think so but the world is so messed up that a downgrade probably wouldn't have much affect at this point. In fact, when S&P downgraded our credit rating earlier this year the price of US T Bills went UP and the yield went DOWN, the opposite of what you'd expect to happen under "normal" circumstances...Extremely low interest rates are one of the reasons that we shouldn't be afraid to spend more money right now on things like infrastructure and education. Instead, we're talking about cutting even these kinds of necessary and productive spending. Pretty silly...
02:29 AM on 11/20/2011
Europe is in such BAD shape (though they are trying to hide it and can't) that American money is starting to look good again to the world.

America will probably stay "king" of the economic dung heap only because the rest of the world is worse off.
10:17 AM on 11/21/2011
An ostrich sticking its head in the sand is nothing more than a myth. This they do not do. But there's nothing wrong when using it metaphorically. Especially in this current economic climate.
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12:28 AM on 11/19/2011
Interesting counter to Paul Krugman's article in the times.
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04:43 AM on 11/19/2011
This is more like a complement to Krugman's piece. What he is saying is the same as this article: cutting spending at this point in time is dumb and we'd be better off if the Super Committee does nothing.
07:36 PM on 11/20/2011
Unfortunately this will further put uncertainty into the stock and bond and commodity markets which we all need to work for us if we ever hope to retire, assuming we iron the corruption and wanton greed of those who control the markets out of them. So the double whammy continues unabated. Yes I like grilled spam sandwiches and we are going to have to cut it extra thin.
11:29 PM on 11/18/2011
How is that austerity thing working out in Europe these days?
wsdave
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08:43 PM on 11/19/2011
Worked out pretty darn good in South Korea.
zSpin2001
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10:26 PM on 11/18/2011
Perhaps we will get so disgusted that we will elect people that will actually do something, and yet I won't hold my breath.
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09:22 PM on 11/18/2011
What's this, the fourth time (this year) that the economy's showing signs of "coming out the recession"?

(The same recession that ended in 2009.)

And how many different things were supposed to affect those recoveries that never happened anyway?

Don't let holiday spending aberrations affect the larger future, and let the Super Committee fail.

Liquidate defense. Liquidate the tax cuts. Liquidate the Congressional circus.
02:37 AM on 11/20/2011
If anybody thinks we are showing real signs of coming out of this recession, I have some Florida swamp land for sale.....great for building homes......

People are spending due to the holidays.

Let's see what it is like in February 2012.

BTW.....Too many here in my area of Florida are unemployed or underemployed.
Most of the jobs around are part time, low wage, few benefits McJobs.
Just saying.....