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Super Committee Automatic Spending Cut Triggers May Be Blocked By Congress

Super Committee Deadline Automatic Cuts Triggers

DONNA CASSATA   11/21/11 09:46 PM ET   AP

WASHINGTON — Don't look for the Pentagon to shut down one side of its famous five-sided building. Don't expect the Education Department to pull back its grants just yet.

With the collapse of the deficit-cutting supercommittee, Congress' emergency backup budget-cutting plan now is supposed to take over – automatic, across-the-board spending reductions of roughly $1 trillion from military as well as domestic government programs.

But the big federal deficit reductions that are to be triggered by Monday's supercommittee collapse wouldn't kick in until January 2013. And that allows plenty of time for lawmakers to try to rework the cuts or hope that a new post-election cast of characters – possibly a different president – will reverse them.

Congress' defense hawks led the charge Monday, arguing that the debt accord reached by President Barack Obama and congressional Republicans last summer already inflicted enough damage on the military budget. That agreement set in motion some $450 billion in cuts to future Pentagon accounts over the next decade.

The defense hawks were backed up in part by Defense Secretary Leon Panetta, who warned of a hollow force but implored Congress to produce a debt plan to avoid cuts "that will tear a seam in the nation's defense."

The supercommittee's failure to produce a deficit-cutting plan of at least $1.2 trillion after two months of work is supposed to activate the further, automatic cuts, half from domestic programs, half from defense. Combined with the current reductions, the Pentagon would be looking at nearly $1 trillion in cuts to projected spending over 10 years.

Obama declared he would veto any effort to undo the automatic cuts. But there are sure to be efforts in that direction.

"Our military has already contributed nearly half a trillion to deficit reduction. Those who have given us so much have nothing more to give," said House Armed Services Committee Chairman Howard "Buck" McKeon, R-Calif., in promising to introduce legislation to prevent the cuts.

Sens. John McCain of Arizona, the top Republican on the Senate Armed Services Committee, and Lindsey Graham, R-S.C., a member of the panel, said they would "pursue all options" to avoid deeper defense cuts.

The congressional rank and file may be determined to spare defense and undo the automatic cuts, but there's hardly unanimity. Deficit-cutting tea partyers within the GOP side with liberal Democrats in signaling they're ready to allow military reductions. In addition, House Speaker John Boehner, R-Ohio, and Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid, D-Nev., said they would abide by the consequences of the deficit-fighting law – and they control what legislation moves forward.

Freshman Sen. Rand Paul, R-Ky., a tea party favorite, even questioned the legitimacy of the outcry over the military reductions, from Defense Secretary Leon Panetta contending the cuts would be devastating to McKeon's warning that they would "cripple our ability to properly train and equip our force, significantly degrading military readiness."

"I think we need to be honest about it," Paul said in an interview on CNN Sunday. "The interesting thing is there will be no cuts in military spending. This may surprise some people, but there will be no cuts in military spending because we're only cutting proposed increases. If we do nothing, military spending goes up 23 percent over 10 years. If we sequester the money, it will still go up 16 percent. So spending is still rising under any of these plans."

According to the nonpartisan Congressional Budget Office, the planned Pentagon budget for 2021 would be some $700 billion, an increase over the current level of about $520 billion. The cuts already in the works plus the automatic reductions would trim the projected amount by about $110 billion.

"It's not a decrease in the military budget. It's reducing the increase," said John Isaacs, executive director of Council for a Livable World and Center for Arms Control and Non-Proliferation.

But McCain and Graham have been working on legislation that would undo the automatic defense reductions and instead impose a 5 percent across-the-board reduction in government spending combined with a 10 percent cut in pay for members of Congress.

The Senate resumes work next week on a massive defense bill, a possible candidate for any effort to rework or undo the cuts.

"It's a near certainty they will try to get out from under it," Robert Bixby, executive director of the Concord Coalition, a nonpartisan group advocating fiscal discipline, said of the automatic cuts. "It's equally certain they will damage their credibility if they do so."

The next year-plus plays out in a politically charged atmosphere, with Obama's Republican presidential rivals Mitt Romney and Rick Perry already criticizing the commander in chief for the proposed cuts in defense.

Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell, R-Ky., said it was imperative for Obama "to ensure that the defense cuts he insisted upon do not undermine national security" as Panetta has warned.

Congressional Republicans and Democrats must also decide in the coming weeks whether to extend unemployment benefits for the long-term jobless and leave in place a payroll tax cut enacted last year to prop up the economy.

One other costly question is whether to fix the Medicare payment formula to prevent a nearly 30 percent cut in reimbursements to doctors.

At the end of 2012, Congress must decide whether to extend the 2001 and 2003 tax cuts enacted under President George W. Bush. Democrats want to allow them to expire for wealthy Americans, Republicans want to extend them.

Under the automatic cuts, the Pentagon would face a 10 percent cut in its $550 billion budget in 2013. On the domestic side, education, agriculture and environmental programs would face cuts of around 8 percent.

The law exempts Social Security, Medicaid and many veterans' benefits and low-income programs. It also limits Medicare to a 2 percent reduction.

"It doesn't begin for 13 months," said Jim Kessler, vice president for policy at the centrist-Democratic group Third Way. "Between now and then is an eternity for Congress."

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Associated Press writers Andrew Taylor and Alan Fram contributed to this report.

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SocialistDistortion 12:06 PM on 11/21/2011
Once again, the GOP shows they aren't serious about cutting spending. The DOD is one of the most bloated and wasteful programs we have. In addition to the $700 billion base budget for defense, we're spending nearly $500 billion in war debt interest, arming foreign governments, and "homeland security." That totals about $1.2 trillion. Then, when you consider that nearly 60 cents of every discretionary dollar  Read More...
02:11 AM on 11/22/2011
We need to over turn the law that presidents can not serve more than eight years so we can get Bill Clinton back in office.I do not care what woman he is sleeping with or what lies he is telling he had this country on the right course and cut the bills the country owed to nothing. When Bill was in office every body I know had a good job.Now every body I know does not have a job.All you Bill haters out their can say what they want.But if the truth be told by Replublican or Dem or who ever this was a lot better country to live in when Bill was around.
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BartStratton
08:38 PM on 11/21/2011
Here's the secret stop cutting military pensions & aid for wounded vets, cut all the weapons research programs by 10%. Cost plus is the ultimate pork barrel, it's a never ending hole into which to throw taxpayer money.
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montestruc
War is the health of the state--Randolph Bourne
06:39 PM on 11/21/2011
But it's already a LAW, they can't change it now. ROTFLOL

Want to put our financial house in order!?

RON PAUL 2012!!
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Watching rock grow
It's a practice in patience
08:36 PM on 11/21/2011
To better understand Rep. Ron Paul, I look at son Senator Rand Paul and know- there is no way I am voting for the father of Senator Rand Paul!
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montestruc
War is the health of the state--Randolph Bourne
12:36 AM on 11/22/2011
What is your problem with Rand Paul?
06:05 PM on 11/21/2011
"Congressional Republicans and Democrats must also decide in the coming weeks whether to extend unemployment benefits for the long-term jobless and leave in place a payroll tax cut enacted last year to prop up the economy.

One other costly question is whether to fix the Medicare payment formula to prevent a nearly 30 percent cut in reimbursements to doctors."

Prediction: All will get done for one year and the GOP will get another year extension of the Bush tax cuts.

Then the election will decide what to do next.
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Stephen the Grate
There is grandeur in this view of life ...
05:38 PM on 11/21/2011
So John Boehner says that the Super Committee failure is the result of the democrats insistence on raising taxes on the job creators…

I think its time we define who these “job creators” really are. The problem with our economy is demand, and the lack thereof. With unemployment at these persistently high levels and the lack of spending by the middle class, a large percentage of employers are not hiring because of limited demand for their products.

The job creators are not the Wall St. millionaires or bankers. The job creators are the 99%! They are the firemen and the taxi drivers and the office workers and the teachers. Only when there are job opportunities and workers are paid a living wage will we see a real improvement in this country’s economy.
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hiredshoe
Never been P.C.and don't intend to start
06:16 PM on 11/21/2011
It's cost us trillions of dollars to find out Obama's not the "job creator"!
11:47 PM on 11/21/2011
It's not as much about demand as it is demand for goods made by people earning a living wage at a safe, clean, and decent job. Until the slave wage imports - that can be shipped overseas and still turn profits in the face of minimum wage employees working for companies not raping the environment and polluting everything at will - STOPS, there will be no jobs, which means less affluence, living standards, wages, and income that can be subject to taxes for the poor to middle class. Shutting the door to illegitimate imports would corner the market for companies operating legit and be a boost for American companies as well. If America doesn't grow its way out of its problem legitimately, it will be buried before the turn of the century. It has the resources, but not the money/gold to be the importer of the world much longer; particularly when it boasts 15 trillion in debt already. America will only get stronger or stay alive from within.
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TheAntiOkie
Saying you're Christian doesn't prove anything
05:27 PM on 11/21/2011
Hi paid posters! Good to see your latest round of lame talking points from the FRWNJRE websites for whom you work.
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05:40 PM on 11/21/2011
He tripled the debt
He isn't done yet
mmm mmm mmm
BarackHusseinObama

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cowanln
There are worse things than
06:08 PM on 11/21/2011
Yeah, on the back of Bush's wars tax breaks and all around bad economic policy.
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rschli7137
06:38 PM on 11/21/2011
Tripled the debt? He inherited Bush's $10.6 Trillion debt. It's now $15 Trillion. Ever have math in school?
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hiredshoe
Never been P.C.and don't intend to start
06:18 PM on 11/21/2011
I ain't a paid poster till I get the check
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Stephen the Grate
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06:19 PM on 11/21/2011
I wouldn't hold my breath!
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ocrmom59
05:25 PM on 11/21/2011
If we did away with ss, medicare, medicaid, unemployment food stamps, and go back to way it was before all these programs what will we have. People who are not able to work but will try like they do now, the seniors who can hardly make ends meet now, more sick people dying on the streets, people eating out of garbage cans because the soup kitchens are too full. They can't go to the free clinics because they are over flowing with those who have no insurance for being denied coverage or kicked off insurance.

People who could and would work can't because the top 1% is still counting their profits and keep sending jobs overseas because they don't want to have safe working environment or benefits. than worry about those who
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laurieanichols
je pense donc, je suis
05:19 PM on 11/21/2011
According to various sources such as the CBO and the Center for Budget Analysis, we nothing is done until January 2013 when the expirations dates for most tax cuts and other programs is up, the deficit will be lowered by 7.1 trillion in ten years time. The most egregious deficit creator are the Bush tax cuts and the GOP want those tax cuts to be permanent. President Obama and democrats only want stimulus spending to get jobs back into the economy and get the unemployment rolls down and more revenue into the country's coffers. Those tax cuts have not produced any good for our nation, actually it was and still is a very divisive economic issue and could be argued to have contributed to more income inequality.
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Al Finnell
12:37 AM on 11/22/2011
are you still blaming bush? biden accepted that the Ds were in control for the past three years. Listen to your VP. man up.
04:53 PM on 11/21/2011
What is sad is that our government is borrowing and spending upwards of $3.5 Trillion dollars a year and running at a deficit of over $110 a billion per month which is being added to our national debt. All the "super committee" had to do was find a way to reduce government spending by 5 cents of every dollar spent to meet their target and they failed, and both parties are responsible, but the Democrats are the ones that killed any chance of a deal by insisting on raising taxes as a prerequisite to any deal, while the Zrepublicans were looking at real cuts in government spending.
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08:42 PM on 11/21/2011
Hogwash! If we can do as you claim with 5cent, what can we do with a 10cent raise on the 1%. But we can't touch the holy cows of Republicans now can we.
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maybealittlecommonsense
kick it root down
04:29 PM on 11/21/2011
Super committee failed. Obama's re election plans are coming together. Do nothing and blame the Republicans. Where is Obama? Still looking for his lost itinerary in Australia? This has got to be getting embarrassing for serious Dems.
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allengoldchain
Proud to be a 53%! I always pay my fair share!
04:25 PM on 11/21/2011
This was a useless idea to further do nothing while pretending to do something. By the looks of it the super committee will not come to an agreement. But that was expected the moment they created it. Just another way to attempt to fool the public. When this committee fails (48 hours) it will do nothing but stop future increases in defense. the half and half triggers only go into effect in 2013 and is does not bind the future Congress or President (not Obama) to follow through with it.

This was just another punt and deserves no additional coverage.
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Stephen the Grate
There is grandeur in this view of life ...
05:52 PM on 11/21/2011
Good post. It would be my guess that sequestration will not happen and the cuts slated for 2013 will be stopped. What a charade.
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allengoldchain
Proud to be a 53%! I always pay my fair share!
06:26 PM on 11/21/2011
That is why it is amazing that anyone would put any trust in what this committee was designed to do. Nothing they voted on would have made any change to the current system. Democrats can complain about revenue all they want but where were they when they had complete control of the government. they coward away from raising taxes when they full control of government. They voted to continue the Bush tax system and then turn around and say they wanted to increase taxes after the fact? Nothing they have done makes an ounce of sense.

Obama can vow to veto but guess what, he isn't going to be in office when the new Congress starts in 2013. This whole process was a waste of time.
04:17 PM on 11/21/2011
This is what you get when Congress holds "sacred cows" in higher regard than putting the nation on a more stable financial path.The article states that lawmakers believe "automatic, across-the-board cuts are no way to run the federal government". Really? Why not? It achieves more than any of you are willing or capable of. And it does it in a completely unobjective, non-partisan manner. In other words...no sacred cows...at all.

Everything gets a cut, nothing is spared, from defense all the way to social programs. Yes, it's cold and mechanical, but at least it's evenhanded. In all honesty, is there any other choice at this point? Same thing apply to taxes -- a similar proportion for all, with only the most basic loopholes for the poorest individuals and those corporations who follow incentives to keep work based in the U.S.

And a top priority should be the so-called "Black Budget". Obama and his predecessors either haven't or won't (read: persuaded not to) insist on a total review of this. We're capable now of annihilating any threat in the world several times over, and have for decades. If I were in Obama's place, I'd order a halt to all such spending unless it could be proven that all existing defense today was somehow inadequate to the task. Otherwise, cuts should extend to even the most covert of programs, with only maintenance and limited research spending continued.
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NRMLUNIT
BOLD AS LOVE
03:57 PM on 11/21/2011
No deal is better than a bad deal. Disband the worthless "super committee". It all,and I mean all,comes down to the 2012 election. If a republican gets elected as president,we are done.
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DanBeach
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03:49 PM on 11/21/2011
The petition is addressed to the U.S. Senate and House of Representatives and says:

If you voted to cut Medicare and Medicaid, you must stop accepting taxpayer-funded health care for yourself and your family.

Will you sign the petition? Click here to add your name, and then pass it along to your friends:

http://www.moveon.org/r?r=267956&id=33106-19282854-sTnTTcx&t=2
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03:51 PM on 11/21/2011
How about the 47%ers who pay no income taxes sign a pledge not to accept and welfare benefits or government subsidies first
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citizen of the universe
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04:15 PM on 11/21/2011
Please stop with the stupid or I'm going to flag your a**!
05:05 PM on 11/21/2011
Wait, what? You want those people who already can't afford to pay taxes (because they don't earn enough) to be even more poor? You're not going to get any traction with that here, and it has nothing to do with the size of our tent.
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imusintheevening
With,without,who'll deny it's whatthe fights about
03:34 PM on 11/21/2011
The super committee, formed by Congress with a majority in the Senate that would prevent a Presidential veto is somehow all the fault of the President. Care to explain, cons?
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maybealittlecommonsense
kick it root down
04:30 PM on 11/21/2011
yeah..... Obama has been working so hard to get the committee to pass something.
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imusintheevening
With,without,who'll deny it's whatthe fights about
04:36 PM on 11/21/2011
What would you have the President do?
05:07 PM on 11/21/2011
yeah... Obama totally has a seat and a vote in the super committee...
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hiredshoe
Never been P.C.and don't intend to start
06:11 PM on 11/21/2011
Stll waiting on Obama's budget 3 yrs. now
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imusintheevening
With,without,who'll deny it's whatthe fights about
06:14 PM on 11/21/2011
FY2010 was 3 years ago?