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House Republicans Repeat: Rich Already Pay Fair Share Of Taxes

Posted: 11/22/11 07:27 PM ET

The debate about taxing the super-rich is as pertinent and contentious as it has ever been, thanks to the Occupy Wall Street movement pushing the issue of income inequality to the forefront of American politics.

Myriad reports demonstrate the low real tax rates for millionaires and billionaires in the United States. Bloomberg wrote this month that the top bracket of taxpayers have seen their effective tax rate decrease since 1995. Another recent report from the Internal Revenue Service shows that 1,500 millionaires paid no income tax at all in 2009. The snowball effect -- the wealthy tend to become even more wealthy -- has caused the income gap in America to widen dramatically.

It's not just protesters on the street voicing frustration with this. Last week, a group of millionaires lobbied Congress to have their federal taxes raised.

Still, many in the Republican Party strongly oppose any tax hike on wealthy Americans or corporations, arguing that these individuals and organizations are the "job creators" and that raising their taxes would stunt job growth throughout the nation.

It's worth noting that an icon among the trickle-down economic believers, President Ronald Reagan, said in a 1985 speech that loopholes enabling millionaires to avoid taxes were "crazy" because they allowed the "truly wealthy to avoid paying their fair share."

But here's a look at what Republicans are saying these days:

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  • House Speaker John Boehner (R-Ohio)

    Commenting on Occupy Wall Street and the redistribution of wealth on ABC's "This Week" recently, <a href="http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/week-transcript-speaker-john-boehner/story?id=14892830&page=5#.TswHj3NPkqV" target="_hplink">House Speaker John Boehner said</a>: <blockquote>Come on. The top 1 percent pay 38 percent of the income taxes in America. You know, how much more do you want them to pay? Well, I'll tell you what: Let's take all the money that the rich have, all of it. It won't even put a dent in our current budget deficit, much less our debt.</blockquote>

  • Rep. Larry Bucshon (R-Ind.)

    Rep. Larry Bucshon <a href="http://gcdailyworld.com/story/1786079.html" target="_hplink">said in an interview</a> with a local Indiana paper that the tax code needs to be simplified, and he invoked the Republican party line that the wealthiest Americans are creating jobs: <blockquote>I'm not for raising taxes on one sector of the economy. I think right now when you have a high unemployment and you raise taxes on the higher income earners, and they are not going to create any jobs. Arguing right now that the higher income earners aren't paying their fair share is not true. The data shows that. The top 1 percent of income earners are paying about 38 percent of the taxes. The top 10 percent are paying about 70 percent of the taxes.</blockquote>

  • Rep. Mike Kelly (R-Pa.)

    During an House Education and the Workforce Committee markup, <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CEArFmRDtrw&feature=youtu.be" target="_hplink">Rep. Mike Kelly made a plea</a> to "stop railing against the really wealthy": <blockquote>I've got to tell you something. As a guy who has had to pay his own way his whole life, I am greatly offended by the idea that somehow somebody in Washington knows how to spend my money better than I do. That somebody in Washington knows how to regulate me to the point where I can't even borrow money anymore. You want to talk about people who are afraid? The small banks. They're scared to death to do anything. Why? Because their government has such onerous regulations on them anymore that they don't know about the rules and the regulations that have been put through or haven't even been written. So when you want to sit back and talk about these wealthy, evil people ... you want them to spend money? Make their future certain.</blockquote>

  • Rep. Scott DesJarlais (R-Tenn.)

    Commenting on President Barack Obama's proposed jobs bill in September, Rep. Scott DesJarlais also <a href="http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:uHUJCTcKdokJ:www.wbir.com/rss/article/183289/2/TN-lawmakers-reaction-mixed-on-Obama-speech-+&cd=1&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=us&client=firefox-a " target="_hplink">used the "job creators" line</a>. The congressman argued that wealthy Americans are "shouldering the burden" by "already paying the lion's share of taxes, and taxing them more is going to hurt jobs."

  • Rep. Blake Farenthold (R-Texas)

    Two months ago, a handful of local Democrats protested outside Rep. Blake Farenthold's office in opposition to the proposed Buffett Rule Act, which would allow taxpayers to make donations with their income tax returns to help pay down the federal public debt. The bill was named after billionaire Warren Buffett, who has said he should be paying more in taxes. GOP lawmakers responded by suggesting wealthy Americans voluntarily donate extra money when they file their tax returns. "I think everybody is paying their fair share," <a href="http://www.kiiitv.com/story/15591779/local-democrats-stage-protest-on-congressman-farenthold" target="_hplink">Farenthold said</a>, adding, "And before we look at raising taxes on anybody, we've got to get the government spending under control. There's no point in pouring more money into something when it's hemorrhaging out the other end."

  • Rep. Ann Marie Buerkle (R-N.Y.)

    In March, months before the Occupy Wall Street movement arose, Rep. Ann Marie Buerkle <a href="http://www.syracuse.com/news/index.ssf/2011/03/half_applaud_half_jeer_at_rep.html" target="_hplink">expressed sadness</a> at the class warfare in America. "The middle class is being screwed," said the congresswoman at a town hall meeting, but added that the wealthy aren't to blame. "Why do we have class warfare?" she said. "Why do we want to punish the rich? They worked hard for their money."

  • Rep. John Fleming (R-La.)

    Rep. John Fleming made more than $6 million last year, according to the <em>Wall Street Journal</em>. In September on MSNBC, he <a href="http://www.rawstory.com/rawreplay/2011/09/tea-party-rep-only-400000-left-after-i-feed-my-family/" target="_hplink">used himself as an example</a> of why he opposes raising taxes on millionaires: <blockquote>The amount that I have to reinvest in my business and feed my family is more like $600,000 of that $6.3 million. And so by the time I feed my family, I have maybe $400,000 left over to invest in new locations, upgrade my locations, buy more equipment.</blockquote> MSNBC's Chris Jansing responded that the average American makes more like $40,000, $50,000 or $60,000 a year, to which Fleming responded: <blockquote>Again, class warfare never created a job. That's people that will not get jobs. This is all about creating jobs. It's not about attacking people who make certain incomes. You know, in this country most people feel that being successful in their businesses is a virtue, not a vice. And once we begin to identify it as a vice, this country is going down.</blockquote>

  • Rep. Dan Benishek (R-Mich.)

    In August amidst the heated debate over raising the debt ceiling, Rep. Dan Benishek <a href="http://www.petoskeynews.com/news/pnr-benishek-delves-into-debt-ceiling-vote-federal-budget-during-forum-20110824,0,4643945.story" target="_hplink">addressed federal spending</a> at a public forum in Michigan. The congressman said that he would like to ease up on taxing corporations' foreign earnings and that he disagrees with raising taxes on oil companies. <blockquote>I think oil companies pay their fair share. I can understand where the oil company wants to deduct the cost of drilling a well. That's one of the tax breaks for oil companies, the subsidies. They get to deduct the cost of the well the year you drill.</blockquote>

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The debate about taxing the super-rich is as pertinent and contentious as it has ever been, thanks to the Occupy Wall Street movement pushing the issue of income inequality to the forefront of America...
The debate about taxing the super-rich is as pertinent and contentious as it has ever been, thanks to the Occupy Wall Street movement pushing the issue of income inequality to the forefront of America...
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lightningbolt 01:24 PM on 11/23/2011
The so-called "job creators" are sitting on mountains of cash which they are not using to create jobs. Why don't they create more jobs? Because there isn't enough demand for goods from consumers who are poorer than before and governments that are more indebted than before. The Bush administration created an enormous economic catastrophe by increasing the national debt more than any other administration and  Read More...
11:56 PM on 03/29/2012
Its amusing how easily a majority tries to overwhelm a minority whenever it has something it wants.

I agree with getting rid of loopholes, but to rave and claw at those who do the most for our economy and society its absurd. Please get over yourself if you have it in you to judge others for feeling like they deserve to keep what they earn.
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VonMarco
Common Sense is not so Common
04:18 PM on 01/22/2012
400 of the richest families in the USA have more wealth than 150 million families combined. The Walton family of 8 has more wealth than 93 million families. Less that 1% of the USA population control more than half of the country's wealth. The CONS think this is insufficient and they need more tax cuts, not the rest of working and middle class folk. Those supporting the GOP and are not rich, please explain the economic fairness in this scenario. Your speaker of the house and minority leader in the senate has a big problem with allowing you and your family any tax relief without cutting your benefits.....I just can not see the wisdom of supporting such a party.
11:50 PM on 03/29/2012
This is not about taxing peoples wealth, it is about taxing peoples income. In order to achieve a higher income it is expected that you have sufficient skills and work ethic.
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George Dayton
1st Supply Battalion
03:08 PM on 11/30/2011
When the politicians are NOT serving the majority of the people its time for them to go.....BY JOHN
11:43 PM on 03/29/2012
Our government should not be serving the majority, it should be upholding the law. that is it.... this is pathetic. People have a right to their property.

I have heard many republicans talk about tax code simplification, and reduction of holes.
11:46 PM on 03/29/2012
It is not the job of government to serve the majority at the expense of the minority. Do you think this is true for minority ethnicity?

The job of the government is to uphold the law, not to abuse the property rights of minorities.
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mbi11
Independent Voter
01:13 PM on 11/30/2011
The GOP has turned tax policy on its head and in the process has caused the deepening deficit mess we have today. Taxes are a tool of fiscal policy and eliminating it from a solution is half-heated and will postpone a solution. They have gotten themselves into this ideological cul de sac and are now damaging the country for the sake of purity. They should allow taxes to rise if only to get the Democrats to kick in cost reductions. This is how it was done in the past and it worked until Bush put two wars on a credit card.
11:54 AM on 11/30/2011
POOR ATLAS SHRUGGED UNDER THE WEIGHT OF REGULATION, BUT POOR PICKERS DIED UNDER THE WRATH OF DEREGULATION.
11:53 AM on 11/30/2011
The republicans changed the tax code in 2002. Since then, it has been impossible to balance the budget. We will change that Boehner.
sjaent2001
Change gets Challenged, changer gets Cross/poison
02:51 AM on 11/30/2011
""""House Republicans Repeat: Rich Already Pay Fair Share Of Taxes""""----- that is right leaders after making a lot of capital gains at the WS from reported special transactions as reported in the media, and after effects of legislations, speculations, regulations, discussions, paying a fair share of taxes is a great favor ----- giving little and making a lot that is elephanthers way of saying that is fair. So God help US.
06:41 PM on 11/29/2011
John Boehner is an embarrassment to his party, ( the one that use to be mine) and to my country. Please John, go home.
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stephen griffith
11:07 PM on 11/28/2011
Since I don't have enough money to buy a congressman; is it too late to ask for one for Christmas? You can't use facts, that just confuses them. You have to use rhetoric and misdirection. So instead of saying we want to increase their taxes, maybe we want to reduce their surplus of money. Or that we want to "level the financial playing field" they use that a lot. So they're about play, but not work. They're about corporate welfare, but not social (or economic) well being. They're pro life for pregnancy, but pro death for prisoners. They're for letting the middle class tax cuts expire, but not the cuts for the wealthiest Americans. Yep, that sounds like family values to me. Just not your family, but theirs. They really are a pack of dirt bags. Throw em out.
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hamp70
02:02 PM on 11/28/2011
Why are there so many rich that do not think they are paying their fair share?
11:31 AM on 11/30/2011
Because they know it is true. While tax rates appear to be high, numerous tax loopholes enable many who are very wealthy to pay a lower percentage of income than middle income earners. They also realize that if the Republicans ever get serious about reducing our national debt, it will greatly boost the economy--which will enable them to make even more money. The Republicans aren't helping wealthy Americans since many of them have seen their portfolios tank under Republican economic policies. The anti-regulation, anti-government ideology may make for great political fodder but, overall, it doesn't help people at any income level.
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hamp70
12:27 PM on 11/30/2011
I see the biggest problem causing the inequities in the world is thievery. (another word exploitation) The sad part is that it is not always illegal. The S&P bond ratings are an example. It is like accepted as something that nothing can be done about. If the thievery gets too in our faces, we make a new law against it, that no one has any intention of enforcing. It looks to me like the biggest thieves are the one yelling the loudest to stop all regulation. This stealing is probably the biggest source of all government programs not working. This is what causes everyone to be against any social programs no matter how well intended they might be. This thievery is at every level of society. Many of the poor probably think they need to do it to survive. The rich are doing it to get richer. Most see it as a reality that nothing can be done to stop. I guess that is why so little is said about it directly. The money that it would take to enforce our rules and regulation would be astronomical. The ones doing a lot of the stealing are our politicians. They are the ones that would need to allocate the money to fight against the stealing. Our we doing an injustice to our children when we teach them to be honest? It almost looks that way sometimes. Sad!
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blueagle8u
09:21 AM on 11/28/2011
America was THE MOST PROSPEROUS when the wealthiest effective Tax rate was 91% (1950's) Under the Republican President Eisenhower! We had EVERYBODY working,The Rich made their money and the Middleclass were born!
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Inkosi
The gods themselves rage against stupidity
10:56 AM on 11/28/2011
blueagle8u - fanned and faved.
11:29 AM on 11/28/2011
Fanned....and true
layman
Live and Let Live !
06:45 AM on 11/28/2011
The rich are the real big free loaders in this country.
11:47 PM on 03/29/2012
The people who earn the highest income are the people effected by a income tax increase.

Free loaders are people who do not work.

Your argument does not apply here.
layman
Live and Let Live !
12:01 PM on 03/30/2012
Then why the hell they keep asking lobbying for tax cut, paying at a rate lower thand the rest ???? Why can't they pay at the same rate as everbody else.
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03:37 AM on 11/28/2011
It is because of these Republicans that OWS exists. As long as this kind of reasoning exists in government, OWS will continue to grow.

If its bad now, wait until January 1 when many of the unemployed lose their insurance benefits when the federal government's EUC ceases to exist.
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clay61
11:50 PM on 11/27/2011
The rich used to pay 90% top tax bracket and we won World War II and had the Korean War. We had the prosperous 1960's with a top rate around 77%. Now it is 35% and we have a huge debt problem. I would contend that the rich take all the benefits of the government. The rich write the laws, regulations that are killing our planet and causing the debt, speculation on oil. The rich get the benefits of the military and defense but no longer participate. The rich benefit from the courts and judicial system. The rich benefit from the copyright/patent laws, property laws. The rich even benefit from welfare and income stability programs-a) the poor will shop at the rich's corporations and business, b) if the poor do not protest or revolt, the rich stay in power. The rich benefit from the roads, infrastructure for their businesses. The rich are getting richer and controlling more wealth by their laws and control in states.
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Inkosi
The gods themselves rage against stupidity
11:01 AM on 11/28/2011
The rich benefit from Section 8 housing! It is not altrusim. A Minister in Mt. Holly, NJ. runs a shelter, tax exempt. He has "residents" apply for and sign over benefits to his organization. He provides a mattress on the floor in a crowded room - provides meals - collected from food banks, and donations. And he lives like a CEO. There is lots of money in poverty, unfortunately, it does not benefit the poor.
11:32 AM on 11/28/2011
Very true....and here is another little tid bit.....

a Not for Profit out of Ohio....named St. Micheals foundation..... does subsidized low income housing in Chula Vista California (along the Mexican Border).....

suspected cross border investors are the Mexicans that live in San Diego.....
11:26 PM on 11/27/2011
Republicans and Conservatives like to make Biblical references. Here are two for them to consider using in their next speech:
1) What about the story where the wealthy person gives a large sum to the poor though only a small fraction of their wealth and the poor person who gives everything they own even though it is a small amount?
2) What about the idea that it is easier for a camel to pass through the eye of a needle than a rich man through the gates of heaven?
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Inkosi
The gods themselves rage against stupidity
11:03 AM on 11/28/2011
occupythe press - fanned and faved! the Bible can justify anything, depending where you look and what you take out of context. Blankfein of Goldman Sachs told the congressional committee he was doing God's work.
04:24 PM on 11/29/2011
repubs just ignore that kind of rhetoric. if it doesnt work to promote their base, they just ignore reality.