More

Foreclosure Settlement Awaits California's Next Move

Foreclosure

First Posted: 11/23/11 06:10 PM ET Updated: 11/23/11 06:10 PM ET

As state attorneys general continue to pursue a national settlement with mortgage companies to resolve claims of improper handling of foreclosure processes, they appear likely to be operating without the biggest jurisdiction: California. The state removed itself from talks last month, citing concerns that the deal currently emerging would provide too much forgiveness for wrongdoing in exchange for too little in restitution to homeowners.

The state has yet to confirm whether it intends to pursue its own prosecutions against mortgage companies or potentially rejoin the settlement, according to sources familiar with the situation. What is clear is that California remains a key player in resolving the foreclosure mess.

The prospect of a deal without California has become a growing source of worry among those pressing for a national settlement -- something they say can't be attained without the nation's most populous state. Though California is not the only state to raise concerns about the settlement terms -- New York, Nevada, Delaware and Massachusetts have either left or are considering leaving the negotiations -- California is unique for its status as ground zero during the foreclosure crisis. In April 2010, a full 25 percent of the nation's foreclosures occurred in the Golden State, according to RealtyTrac.

"Sure, the [attorneys general] could get a settlement [without California or New York], but it's essential that they get a good, tough one. Without the bigger players in the deal, I worry that the settlement won't go far enough," said Jared Bernstein, a senior fellow at the Center on Budget and Policy Priorities. 

Kevin Stein, associate director of the California Reinvestment Coalition, echoed, "If California's not in it, it feels like it's hard to say it's a national settlement."

For 14 months, federal officials and states' attorneys general have been negotiating with Ally Financial Inc., Bank of America Corp., Citigroup Inc., J.P. Morgan Chase & Co. and Wells Fargo & Co, the country's five largest mortgage servicers, which send out the mortgage bills, collect mortgage payments and help homeowners who fall behind on their payments.

Though the settlement talks began in response to the "robosigning" debacle in which servicers neglected to appropriately review files and falsified signatures, it has grown to include other questionable foreclosure practices, including losing or mishandling borrowers' paperwork, leaving a struggling borrower on hold on a phone call for an unnecessarily long period of time, or disconnecting from the call altogether, said sources familiar with the negotiations. 

California, represented by state attorney general Kamala D. Harris, was heavily involved in the negotiations until last month. She exited the talks in October due to her concern that the settlement will ultimately let the servicers off the hook for their shady practices by extinguishing some of the mortgage companies' legal liabilities.

"The fact is that a large number of state attorneys general -- many of whom are keenly aware of the facts of the case and the proposed settlement terms -- have expressed support for our efforts," said Geoff Greenwood, a spokesman for Iowa Attorney General Tom Miller, who is leading the talks on behalf of the states. "We anticipate that unless something unforeseen occurs, the number of states that sign will be well into the forties, and I think that speaks for itself."

Though no deal has been finalized, the proposed terms include some mix of cash payments directly to borrowers, and principal write-downs and refinances for so-called underwater borrowers whose home is worth less than they owe on their mortage. The agreement -- valued at roughly $25 billion -- would establish targets that the lenders would be required to meet, and would be monitored by an independent third party who has yet to be selected but who will be pivotal to the success of enforcing the agreement.

Dean Baker, co-director of the Center for Economic and Policy Research, asserts that California's absence is less an issue for the state attorneys general and more a concern for the five mortgage servicers. He explained, "A lot of states are onboard [with the national settlement], but for the most part those weren't the ones where the worst servicing practices were, they aren't the ones that were hardest hit, so the servicers can get released from the liability [in these states], but that doesn't offer them much. California is huge, and the banks are still going to be losing sleep if California isn't on board and they have liability there."

While California continues to weigh its options, other states are pushing forward. "We're certainly hopeful that California will be a part of the proposed settlement we're currently negotiating," said Greenwood. "But instead of putting negotiations and substantive relief to homeowners on hold, we just feel it's important to explore an alternative settlement path without California, if absolutely necessary."

FOLLOW HUFFPOST BUSINESS
Subscribe to the HuffPost Money newsletter!
As state attorneys general continue to pursue a national settlement with mortgage companies to resolve claims of improper handling of foreclosure processes, they appear likely to be operating without ...
As state attorneys general continue to pursue a national settlement with mortgage companies to resolve claims of improper handling of foreclosure processes, they appear likely to be operating without ...
 
 
  • Comments
  • 177
  • Pending Comments
  • 0
  • View FAQ
Post Comment Preview Comment
To reply to a Comment: Click "Reply" at the bottom of the comment; after being approved your comment will appear directly underneath the comment you replied to.
View All
Favorites
Recency  | 
Popularity
Page: 1 2 3 4  Next ›  Last »  (4 total)
10:50 PM on 11/29/2011
Wow my comments have been blackballed on the HP, What a joke...................
photo
oneeasyrider
E=mc2: From light you exist
05:05 AM on 11/28/2011
Two items need to be addressed. First, banks need to prove legal title ownership. If they can't the loans simply aren't legitimate, and they have no right to foreclosure. End of that story.

Second, it's in the national interest to re-evaluate every loan potentially in foreclosure to reduce the loan amount to current market valuation in addition to modifying the loan to current fixed market rates. Result: Stable home-ownership.

Both approaches are not only good for the economy, homeowners and surrounding neighborhoods it also sends a strong message to banks they're obligated to clean up the mess they created. Don't agree? Banks generated huge fees during the real estate bubble fearing no retribution. Banks knew it was wrong but didn't care. Instead, banks simply dumped the loans where ever they could and never looked back.
05:18 AM on 11/28/2011
Well put, oneeasyrider! Thank you.

Faved
ReaItors Are Liars
NAR is corrupt
07:51 AM on 11/28/2011
Dream on.

First- Pay your mortgage and you won't have a problem.

Second- No mortgage obligation will be "reduced to current market valuation". The fact that millions paid grossly inflated prices for what is always a depreciating asset(a house) isn't anyones risk but the buyer.
photo
oneeasyrider
E=mc2: From light you exist
10:40 AM on 11/28/2011
Read all of your posts on this thread before entering my post. Your response is always the same nonsense for every sensible idea. Notice you aren't worried about the Mortgage Bankers Assoc. default, and subsequent $41.3 million sale agreement; shy of the $75 million first mortgage on the building that the MBA took out from PNC Financial Group way back in 2007, when they purchased the property for $79 million.

By-the-way, I'm not underwater on my mortgage. I built my house. Instead, I'm worried about my neighbor and others like him how owe three times more than me and are underwater.

While my neighbor never complains and does pay his mortgage, I know it's not good for him or the economy.

So I'm not going to pay attention to you, as I doubt anyone else will, either. And, what's your deal? You're apparently trolling this thread everyday -- many times a day.
11:23 AM on 11/28/2011
Mortgages are being reduced to market.

Until 2009, real estate was an ever appreciating asset, unlike your car.
ReaItors Are Liars
NAR is corrupt
11:32 PM on 11/27/2011
"California demographic shift: More people leaving than moving in"

http://www.latimes.com/news/local/la-me-california-move-20111127,0,4330158,full.story

Get while the getting is good and get out of California.
09:53 PM on 11/27/2011
How can the feds let this happen, put a big tax on the bank for foreclosurer, local governments have raised property taxies out of site, lower property taxies,and a 50 year mortgage, could stop 50% of the put outs, no one has went to jail yet, why not, return to states rights, and smaller government, as all three governments ,, Local , state and federal are taxing our people, Vote them out of office, send the illegal aliens back home, that would help cut the cost and give one of the people that is lossing his home his job back,
08:06 PM on 11/26/2011
I really hope Kamala Harris sticks to her position on this matter. 25 billion is a drop in the bucket settlement just in California alone. These banks are getting away with robbery otherwise.
07:45 PM on 11/26/2011
More bullcrap---there were NO MORTGAGES---NO FUNDING---IN SUBPRIME---the servicers are foreclosing illegally on UNSECURED DEBT. They are only slimy DEBT COLLECTORS. Tell them to PROVE a real creditor---a real "owner" of a real "loan"...guess what---they can't do it...because only COLLECTION RIGHTS were transferred at closing...cash out receivables and "borrower" payments were "securitized". Securitized "Trusts" are and always have been EMPTY...giant ponzi followed by giant cover-up...because the government has blood on it's hands...they are letting the ILLEGAL foreclosures go through. 65 million FAKE "mortgages" are legally unenforceable...but they've been getting away with it...
ReaItors Are Liars
NAR is corrupt
10:07 PM on 11/26/2011
WRONG.

The house is collateral. Always has been and always will be.
02:13 AM on 11/27/2011
YOU'RE WRONG.
NOT legally collateral if original contract fraudulently misrepresented as an actual mortgage.

ONLY COLLECTION RIGHTS ASSIGNED AT CLOSING. You must be a shill.
photo
HUFFPOST SUPER USER
politicky
just follow the $$$
06:38 PM on 11/26/2011
"...The agreement -- valued at roughly $25 billion --..."

WHAT?
02:34 AM on 11/26/2011
In light of the problems the banking industry is having keeping all their accounts straight
( due to mergers,lo­ss of data continuity­,foreclosu­res,MERS & other malfeasanc­e )

I submit it's time to reenact the Glass Seagall Act of 1933. It effectivel­y regulated for almost 70 years ( no need for new committees and hearings thus saving the expense).

And break up the 4 mega banks that caused the problems "We" face today.
02:42 PM on 11/25/2011
PUBLIC SERVICE ANNOUNCEME­NT

Folks,

There are people here suggesting you "fight" to get your mortgages modified. Doing so puts you much much deeper into debt. This is precisely what the banks want. These people suggesting you fight are working for the banks.

If you stay and continue to pay grossly inflated mortgage installmen­ts on a rapidly depreciati­ng house, you will never recover financiall­y.
photo
HUFFPOST SUPER USER
IndyFem
02:55 PM on 11/25/2011
If someone is successful in getting their loan modified to where the payments are less than what they would need to pay in rent for a silmilar home....they will be just fine.
ReaItors Are Liars
NAR is corrupt
03:04 PM on 11/25/2011
WRONG.

If you bought a house 1998-2010, you paid a grossly inflated price(thanks to you Iying reaItors) and your mortgage will NEVER be lower than rent no matter how low they agree to make the payments.

Furthermore, lenders ALWAYS extend the mortgage term putting you ever further underwater.

Now why are you reaItors encouraging people to go ever deeper in debt on a rapidly depreciating house?

ANSWER the question.
photo
HUFFPOST SUPER USER
frank day
Republican = FAIL
08:50 AM on 11/26/2011
Obviously, both of these posters are R.A.L.
01:08 PM on 11/25/2011
This article totally fails to mention one of the issues in the proposed settlement, MERS, the company founded by Fannie Mae, Freddie Mac, BofA, Chase and others. MERS was created to serve as a mortgage registration entity, the role normally reserved to county registrars. Even MERS very existence is alleged to be illegal and it's seems likely that $100's of millions of dollars were diverted from state fees to MERS. MERS claims to hold title to 60 million mortgages despite the fact that they've not provided a single penny of mortgage financing, ever.

http://www.nytimes.com/2011/03/06/business/06mers.html?pagewanted=all

http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/blogs/taibblog/attorneys-general-settlement-the-next-big-bank-bailout-20111005

http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/blogs/taibblog/banks-challenged-over-foreclosures-20101111
photo
unfoxworthy
We:ScottOlsens,the misfits,out to change the world
11:27 PM on 11/25/2011
MERS was one of Wall Streets' first attempts cap their thieving performance by bum-rushing a final illegal scam past all law-abiding citizens. Had the smartest guys next to the bull's b@ll$ completed MERS - they would have completed the biggest scam in history and possibly closed the door on liability for countless acts of treason.
They were masterful at:
- setting up the scam (eliminating Glass-Steagal),
- running the scam (pushing the GSE's into bankrolling the pyramid of securitized debt, readying it for unloading onto the pension fund holders and otherwise honest investors),
- aligning themselves with rating agencies (who should now NOT be operating) ,
- padding themselves against repercussions (garnishing with AIG insurance for the reckless gamble),
- and finally wrestling away the sanctity of clear titled homes from the American people and from the justice system by setting up an illegitimate entity to front the liability.
Hank Paulson, Lloyd Blankfein, Ben Bernanke, Corzine, and a score of others were masterful...
masterful at exercising greed. Kudos.
They belong in cells.
photo
HUFFPOST SUPER USER
sf1000000
Screw being nice its highly overrated
10:14 AM on 11/25/2011
I am a Dem and progressive and This mess should have been solved long ago..yet in 4 years Nothing has happened. People have been cheated lied to and conned out of their homes. Congress forget them, the DOJ, is willing to settle for pennies on the dollar and let the banks off the HOOK again for more crimes..which anyone 1 of us..would have been in jail for years. Roughly speaking these banks have cost US the American home owner..$700 Billion in loss equity..and the DOJ will settle for $25 billion and wants all 50 STATES to sign on? The President needs to step up and say NO. GOP members of the Congress want the banks to pay nothing..and have protested the even the $25 billion..amazing..oh and the banks..back to biz as usual..NO REGS No rules..no nothing they want to SELF REGULATE..have we heard this before?
Mean while OWS is demanding the foreclosures stop and the banks work with the home owners. Since Congress won't act the STATES SHOULD..and Pass legislation to stop this Now..and make the banks pay !! IF you screw UP then YOU PAY..
photo
HUFFPOST SUPER USER
draken54
Don't make me call my flying monkeys
10:31 AM on 11/25/2011
Thank you
photo
HUFFPOST SUPER USER
Klarsonent
Semi-retired landlady, small business entrepreneur
11:46 AM on 11/25/2011
You are exactly right. $25 billion is a pittance. The robo-signing alone has caused a huge debacle that will be felt for many years to come. Title companies are no longer insuring the title on Real Estate, because they don't know who legally owns the property.

For that reason alone, I wouldn't buy any property today, even if it's a good buy (foreclosures). Not to mention the main reason; I've been a landlady for 20 years and am getting tired of it.
photo
HUFFPOST SUPER USER
sf1000000
Screw being nice its highly overrated
12:07 PM on 11/25/2011
AMEN...I want to see these suckers behind BARS...Go and rent or buy the CD of INSIDE JOB..and keep a plastic can near by...when you find out the BOFA was laundring drug cartel money and got a fine and NO JAIL TIME? HELLO? Where is the justice in that..
ReaItors Are Liars
NAR is corrupt
10:06 AM on 11/25/2011
"Southern California Home Prices Fall 4.8%"

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2011-11-15/southern-california-home-prices-fall-4-8-as-sales-of-high-end-houses-drop.html#

Why buy a hosue today when you can buy later for 50% less?
photo
HUFFPOST SUPER USER
IndyFem
03:00 PM on 11/25/2011
I thought it was "60% less"....what happened?
ReaItors Are Liars
NAR is corrupt
03:18 PM on 11/25/2011
I thought "housing prices always go up" ... what happened?

I'll tell you what happened.... you Iying reaItors have been Iying to the public and screwing people for decades.

Lawyer up now.
09:21 PM on 11/25/2011
Because you can afford the payments and you want to live there.
ReaItors Are Liars
NAR is corrupt
09:42 PM on 11/25/2011
If you need to make payments, it's not affordable. But don't fear, housing is going to get alot more affordable in the coming decade. ALOT more affordable.
HUFFPOST SUPER USER
blackranger
09:53 AM on 11/25/2011
Why should banks who have refused to reduce mortgage holders liabilities be allowed to reduce their legal liabilities? That sounds absurd to me.
photo
HUFFPOST SUPER USER
blacksmithn
Iron, cold iron, is master of them all...
01:04 PM on 11/28/2011
F&F'ed for the most simple, yet cogent and reasonable argument I've heard thus far.
photo
knewsreply
PhD: International Educator and Marketer
08:43 AM on 11/25/2011
I feel sorrier for those who are losing/have lost their homes and livelihood than those who caused all this injury to happen by eliminating jobs, by investing overseas, by laying off faithful employees, by encouraging young couples to borrow more than they could pay back, and by these crucial foreclosures. What should this cost those who caused this this injure? More than they can afford. What will it cost those who caused this injury? As little as the courts and politicians will permit those who caused this to happen.
This comment has been removed due to violations of our [Guidelines]