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Hamas, Fatah Hold Talks, Say They Narrowed Gaps

Hamas Fatah Talks

MAAMOUN YOUSSEF and KARIN LAUB   11/24/11 01:30 PM ET   AP

CAIRO — Rival Palestinian leaders on Thursday held their first detailed talks on reconciliation since the Islamic militant Hamas seized control of the Gaza Strip more than four years ago, declaring they made progress toward sharing power but failing to resolve key issues.

Western-backed Palestinian President Mahmoud Abbas and Hamas chief Khaled Mashaal talked for two hours in Cairo but did not reach agreement on touchy matters like the composition of an interim unity government and a date for elections.

The meeting raised new questions about whether the rivals are serious about sharing power, or just going through the motions.

The split, leaving competing governments in the West Bank and Gaza, has complicated peace efforts with Israel. The rift is unpopular among Palestinians, but the political camps have also benefited from the status quo and would have to give up positions of power for reconciliation.

Both leaders described the atmosphere in Thursday's meeting as positive, suggesting they are ready to embark on a partnership despite the bitter animosity of the past.

"What is important to us is that we deal with each other as partners and shoulder the same responsibility toward our people and our cause," said Abbas. Mashaal said that he and his former rival "opened a new page" in relations.

In Israel, government spokesman Mark Regev warned that "the closer Abu Mazen (Abbas) gets to Hamas, the further he moves away from peace." Abbas favors negotiations with Israel as the path toward Palestinian statehood, but his negotiations with Israel's current government never got off the ground. Hamas opposes peace talks and refuses to recognize the Jewish state.

Abbas and Mashaal reached a power-sharing deal in principle in May. That agreement called for the immediate formation of an interim unity government, parliamentary and presidential elections by May 2012 and the eventual merging of rival security forces.

The first stage, setting up a unity government of technocrats without clear political affiliations, ran into trouble immediately after the May deal.

Hamas refused to accept Abbas' candidate for interim prime minister, Salam Fayyad, saying the political independent and West Bank prime minister is too close to the West. It was not clear if Abbas dropped Fayyad's candidacy Thursday.

Participants would only say the formation of the government was discussed, and that lower-level talks would continue. Abbas avoided specifics in the meeting, including on the government issue, leaving Hamas wondering whether he is playing for time, said a Hamas official who spoke on condition of anonymity because he was not authorized to discuss details of the meeting.

Abbas would face a Western backlash – possibly including political isolation and the loss of hundreds of millions of dollars in international aid – for striking up a political partnership with Hamas and allowing activists of the widely shunned movement into the Palestinian security forces.

Both sides reiterated that elections should go ahead, as planned, in May, but did not set a date.

Voting plans could easily be derailed because Hamas has demanded assurances that Israel will not target or arrest its candidates, as it did after the 2006 parliament vote.

Abbas' Fatah movement, meanwhile, remains in disarray and seems unprepared for elections. Fatah was soundly defeated by Hamas in parliament elections in 2006 and does not have a consensus candidate for president. Abbas, 76, has said he would not run again.

In a show of good intentions, the two leaders decided that activists of the two movements would be released from detention, said Azzam al-Ahmed, an Abbas envoy. They also agreed to engage in "popular resistance," a term Palestinians use to refer to nonviolent demonstrations against Israeli occupation. It was not clear whether this meant Hamas has dropped its support for attacks against Israel. Up to now Hamas has refused to renounce violence.

Gaza analyst Hani al-Basoos said Thursday's meeting fell short of expectations. "We believed there would be an announcement that they agreed on a new government and at least a name for the prime minister, and practical steps to end the split," he said.

The two sides are set to meet again next month, starting Dec. 20, to discuss restructuring the Palestine Liberation Organization, the umbrella group headed by Abbas. Hamas, which is not part of the PLO, is seeking a role in the group as a possible stepping stone for taking the lead of the Palestinian independence movement from Fatah.

Abbas left Cairo shortly after the meeting.

Israeli officials have threatened to punish Abbas if he forms an alliance with Hamas, which Israel considers a terrorist organization.

Since October, Israel has suspended the transfer of taxes and customs duties it collects on behalf of the Palestinians, or about $100 million a month, a sizable chunk of its revenues.

The decision came after Palestinian moved to join the U.N. cultural agency UNESCO. Israel objects to the Palestinian move to join the United Nations and U.N. agencies without a peace deal, saying peace should first be reached through negotiations.

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Laub reported from Ramallah, West Bank. Associated Press writers Mohammed Daraghmeh and Dalia Nammari in Ramallah and Ian Deitch in Jerusalem contributed reporting.

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A Jew with a View
Act justly, love mercy, walk humbly
06:33 PM on 11/26/2011
There have been many posts regarding Israel, the Palestinians, equality between Arabs and Jews and Jerusalem. Watch this interview with the Mayor of Jerusalem to learn more about the complexities of the issues, the challenges that are being faced and the accomplishments that are being made. It is impossible to watch this and not come away more informed.

http://shalomtv.com/box%201.html
Tony Andrews
Ὁ βίος βραχύς, ἡ δὲ τέχν
07:50 PM on 11/27/2011
It's interesting that you get 3 "Favorites" with a link that does not work.
A Jew with a View
Act justly, love mercy, walk humbly
08:24 PM on 11/27/2011
Tony- Sorry that it did not work for you. Try typing in sholomtv.com. It should take you to their general web page and then you can click on the interview.
12:58 PM on 11/26/2011
Its nice to hear that these two sides have stopped murdering eachother. But as long as hamas is still sending rockets on our schools, practicing apatheid, and calling for muslim to finish hitlers job and commit genocode against the jews these talks will resolve NOTHING
09:04 PM on 11/27/2011
Israel is going to be an occupation power bent on colonizing west bank and turning Gaza into a modern day Warsaw Ghetto. That's not going to change. These talks are about Palestinians resolving their own issues, not the issues they have with Israel.
05:19 PM on 11/25/2011
All people who support two states should be very supportive of this Palestinian initiative.
As we help the Palestinians to achieve Freedom Liberty also independence we protect Israel.
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Sam Bark
It's a MAD world after all...
07:05 PM on 11/25/2011
martin2 -- there is no such thing as 2 states solutions in Hamas or PA vocabulary, listen to the PA official speeches in Arabic, all steps are intermediary steps towards the final goal of re-claiming the Palestinian Islamic State…… these were Arafat words after signing Oslo accord, and Abbas and others after going to the UN for statehood…LoL
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Sonic hedgehog
A true word needs no oath
01:06 PM on 11/26/2011
There is also no 2 states solution in Likud's vocabulary. What do you have to say about that Bark face?
10:11 PM on 11/26/2011
Their move at the UN proves that you are wrong.
If you keep bashing Palestinians you will have your greater Israel and a one state with a Jewish minority.
11:49 AM on 11/26/2011
Hamas believes in jihad, apartheid and genocide jews. their words and actions speak.for themselves. israelis have every right to be skeptikal
10:13 PM on 11/26/2011
You occupy and you lie.
04:17 PM on 11/25/2011
This is good news. Hamas, the terror group vowing to fight to the death with Israel has "narrowed" their differences with Fatah, the party that has publicly stated they will live with israel but tells their own peoplein Arabic they will also be fighting to the death as long as Israel exists.
09:08 PM on 11/27/2011
They have been forcefully removed from their homes and lands, and have been living under a harsh occupation accompanied by systematic colonization what little they have left for years. You want love?
12:33 PM on 11/25/2011
There cannot be any Iaws discrimina­­­­ting peopIe based on race or reIigion. 1947 PaIestine and JerusaIem belongs to the PaIestinia­­­­n, regardless of religion, and all PaIestinia­­­­n refugees have the inalienabl­­­­e right to return to their homes and lands in 1947 Palestine. The US should not support any entity that allows political and Iegal discrimina­­­­tion based on race or reIigion.
04:10 PM on 11/25/2011
The American taxpayer borrows money to support and finance this rampant discrimination.
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austinreid
Cheers, Prost, Campai, L'chayim
10:25 PM on 11/25/2011
Israel does not discrimina­te people based on religion or race. In fact, Arabs in Israel are freer then Arabs in Arab lands. there is also a greater level of freedom of religion in Israel today then at any other point in the region’s history.
09:25 AM on 11/26/2011
Martin u mean to pay for the 7.2 billions $$$$$$$ per annum it gives to Muslim Arabs states and gets attacked by their people's in return.

Great deal that?
04:19 PM on 11/25/2011
You could not be more wrong. The only reason there were refugees is that the Arabs (along with the surrounding Arab dictatorships) launched a war against Israel and in self defense, Israel fought back and won. The Israelis are under no obligation to allow any of the people who tried to destroy them in war, to "return" and live in Israel. However, the decendents of the 700,000 Jews who were ethnically cleansed from E. Jerusalem and the surrounding Arab dictatorship based solely on religion do have the right to return or be paid compensation by the Arabs who committed the crime.
05:29 PM on 11/25/2011
Jerry read up on was was done to the Palestinians before Israel claimed the Palestinian lands.
This will help you look less prejudice.
Tony Andrews
Ὁ βίος βραχύς, ἡ δὲ τέχν
08:48 AM on 11/26/2011
How did refugees who fled, and cannot therefore have been present, be among those who "tried to destroy them in war"?
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Smith14P
07:20 AM on 11/25/2011
Hope?
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blackhawk78
09:03 PM on 11/24/2011
We have Jordan,Gaza and the West Bank three Palestinian states can Israel get to have one also.
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Peter Speight
07:16 AM on 11/25/2011
Didn't you notice Israel has a state.
And Palestine has none.
Jordan is a separate country.
It's racist to assume that all Arabic speaking peoples are the same. Like calling all English Anglo-Saxon nations the same.

Can Palestinians have self-determination and human rights now?
08:58 AM on 11/25/2011
"And Palestine has none." Because from the start they have refused their own state if it meant living alongside a nation state for the Jewish People.

"Jordan is a separate country." Which Britain made out of......2/3 of Mandatory Palestine.

"It's racist to assume that all Arabic speaking peoples are the same." First, almost the entire Arab populations of Gaza, Jordan, Judea and Samaria are....Palestinian Arabs.
Next, it is the ARABS that claim that all Arabs are ONE NATION.

"Can Palestinia­ns have self-deter­mination and human rights now? " The Palestinians have self-determination (97% of Palestinians are governed by their P.A.) and all the human rights they can have compatible with denying them the "human right" to murder Jews.) They can have their state just as soon as they agree to negotiate a peace that will provide for a secure nation state for the Jewish People.
A Jew with a View
Act justly, love mercy, walk humbly
10:04 AM on 11/25/2011
Nasser had a pan-Arab vision to unite all Arab speaking people. So his view of Arabs as a people was racist? So is there such an Arab identity and if so, what does it comprise of? Why are there specific Arab organizations? Why can't Israel join. Arabic is an official language of Israel. Why isn't Israel considered an Arab country? Isn't it racist to leave Israel out? Is there and Arab people/nation? Does that mean that since there are 50 states that comprise the United States there are actually 50 different Peoplewhohappens to speak (for the most part) the same language? Language is only one aspect that makes a group of people a "People". Please explain the difference between the Jordanian People and the Palestinian People other than self identification. Would yout support a state for Sephrardic Jews and one for Ashkanzi Jews?
08:56 PM on 11/24/2011
So caIIed "isreaI" is stoIen PaIestine, and JerusaIem belongs to PaIestine.
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blackhawk78
08:58 PM on 11/24/2011
Hey fairway hill no picture of a blonde.
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Sam Bark
It's a MAD world after all...
02:19 AM on 11/25/2011
wallnut -- I see that your tree did not walk yet...... Since Jerusalem is still Israel capital and will stay that way forever......
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Peter Speight
07:17 AM on 11/25/2011
You must be one of those religious people who believe "God" gave it to you. The rest of us believe in human rights. The longer you ignore the Palestinians and insult your neighbours, the more you are destroying yourself.
04:52 PM on 11/25/2011
Forever is a long time. Sam Jerusalem was not founded by the Jews. Read up on the folks who founded it hundreds of years before the first Hebrew's.
07:14 PM on 11/24/2011
JEWHATE is irrational ignorant and downright uncivilised

Tell me why its so prevalent among the Arabs then?
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blackhawk78
08:59 PM on 11/24/2011
You just answered your question.
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Peter Speight
07:17 AM on 11/25/2011
Wow, racism against Arabs, immediately after a sentence complaining about racism.
Irony much?
09:28 AM on 11/25/2011
How is confirming what the Arabs themselves say, in their own words, "racism"?
06:41 PM on 11/24/2011
And, yet another thing, as the detective would say. IF there is going to be an Unity Government of the Paletinians in Gaza, and IF Hamas is going to be that Government, why would Hamas want to move to either Cairo, or Qatar, of, possibly, both? They are split up now, why not split up between Qatar and Cairo. One aspect. But if they run Gaza, why would they not reside in Ramallah. or elsewhere in Gaza? Boggles my mind. But then, I ate too much, and my brain is half asleep. It may become clear to ol' granny tomorrow, when I wake up. O, all that Turkey, makes me sleepy. Speaking of Iran. Did Iran say something to Turkey today, or was it yesterday? Some sort of warning? Is it known yet what King Abdullah of Jordan has said in Ramallah? Iran would need some base in Jordan, if it wants to take on S.Arabia.
06:35 PM on 11/24/2011
But, maybe all this is NOT to be seen as being about Peace, or Israel. Hamas was said, a few months or so ago, to consider moving its headquarters from Damascus, Syria, to either Cairo, Egypt, or Qatar. There is no consolidation, yet, of the situation in Egypt. Many *Paletinians* in Gaza are from Egypt. Gaza belonged to Egypt. Qatar is another story. Its orders are S. Arabia in the South and the rest is the Persian Gulf. It is separated from Bahrain by strait of Persian Gulf. Qatar was formerly a British Colony. Bahrain has a Sunni government and a majority Shiite population. Iran has called Bahrain its crown jewel. Iran is involved in internal events of other countries, such as Bahrain, and S. Arabia, where I believe in the S.E. the population is shiite..Iran has conquered strategic islands, in the Persian Gulf, Little Thumb, Big Thumb, Abu Musa. Firing takes ace there out of resedential areas. Where have we seen that before? I believe in areas controlled by Iranian proxies Hezbullah and Hamas. A S. Arabian high official has sounded the alarm about Iran. Besides Christian biblical predictions, there are Muslim ones, and there is also a jewish aggadah. Stay tuned! Someone may think it is high time to bring the stories to life.
06:22 PM on 11/24/2011
Are they going to make a deal and form an Unity Government? In that case, will they hold the scheduled elections in May 2012? The Unity Government will reside in Gaza. Abbas will step down after the elections, and high time. His term ended January 2008! Salaam Fayyad, a man who did much for the Paletinians and the economy of the Westbank will e forced to step down. Tha will leave Hamas, an internationally recognized terror organization in charge of the Palestinians. Hamas is the Islamic Resistance movement. It has a military wing, Izzedine al-Qassam rigades (hence qassam missiles), and a paramilitary wings which is the Executive Force. It has some 20,000 fighters. Its politial leader rules from Damascus (Khaled Mashaal). Ahmad Ja ban, Military leader is in Gaza, so is Ishmail Haniyeh, the Prime Minister. I believe there is a fourth person who resides in Damascus also. The Hamas Charter, and the political posture of Hamas with respect to Israel is known, and available on the internet. This will end any UN approved Paletinian State (terrorist organization - no Peace with neighbors).
06:00 PM on 11/24/2011
Netty should hold tight and let the Pals play theirs bloody hand. The international community will soon see who is the warmongers and who is the honest broker

The Quarter already know the truth of. Course but real politic prevents them stating the obvious
05:57 PM on 11/24/2011
Can we now agree once and for all THE ROADBLOCK TO PEACE IS ONLY THE PALESTINIANS
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Peter Speight
07:18 AM on 11/25/2011
You can agree with your fundamentalist Christian brothers. The rest of the world knows victims when thousands of their civilians are killed, and 300 children are murdered: The Palestians.
05:04 PM on 11/25/2011
Well said Peter thank you for speaking out for the thousands of Palestinian children killed by the Israelis.
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Sam Bark
It's a MAD world after all...
05:42 PM on 11/24/2011
Good grief, I guess the PA and Hamas rivalry narrowed the differences……They both agreed to hate and demolish Israel, but yet to determine the method……….