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Mexico: 26 Bodies Found In Abandoned Vehicles, Official Says

Mexico Bodies Found

ARTURO PEREZ NAVARRO   11/24/11 10:34 PM ET   AP

GUADALAJARA, Mexico — The bound and gagged bodies of 26 young men were found dumped Thursday in the heart of Mexico's second-largest city, in what experts said could mark a new stage in the full-scale war between the country's two main drug cartels, Sinaloa and the Zetas.

The bodies were stuffed in two vans and a pickup truck abandoned on an expressway near the Milennium Arches in Guadalajara, one of the most recognizable landmarks in the picturesque city that hosted last month's Pan American Games.

Most of the men died of asphyxia, according to officials in Jalisco state where Guadalajara is located, though initial reports indicated some had been shot.

The victims, apparently between the ages of 25 and 35, all had the words "Milenio Zetas" or "Milenium" written on their chests in oil, said Jalisco state Interior Secretary Fernando Guzman Perez. A law enforcement official who was not authorized to speak on the record said the writing was apparently meant as the killers' calling card, identifying the assassins as being from the Zetas and a smaller, allied gang, the Milenio Cartel.

The official said a banner found in one of the vehicles – whose contents Guzman Perez refused to reveal – was in fact signed by the Zetas. Mexican cartels frequently leave threatening messages with the bodies of their victims as a way of intimidating rivals and claiming responsibility for their actions.

The killings, apparently carried out before dawn, bore an eerie similarity to the Sept. 20 dumping of 35 bodies on an expressway in the Gulf coast city of Veracruz.

The victims in the Veracruz mass slaying were purportedly Zetas and the killers were allegedly linked to the Sinaloa cartel; those two cartels have emerged as Mexico's most powerful, and have each been trying to expand into each others' territories.

Raul Benitez, a professor at Mexico's National Autonomous University who studies security issues, said the Guadalajara mass killing may have been retaliation for the Veracruz slayings.

"I think the Zetas are responding by giving back in kind ... it is a game of one-upmanship," said Benitez.

The Guadalajara International Book Fair, which opens Saturday, is expected to draw as many as 600,000 visitors from around the world and describes itself as the world's most important Spanish-language book fair. The bodies were found about a mile (1.6 kilometers) from the Expo Guadalajara events center.

Best known as the home of mariachi music and tequila, Guadalajara also sits on the main highway running through western Mexico from the methamphetamine-producing state of Michoacan north toward the Pacific Coast state of Sinaloa.

In recent months, security officials and analysts have worried that the city could become a target for the Zetas, which has rapidly expanded since breaking with its old allies in the Gulf cartel in 2010.

The Zetas have been expanding west, from their base on the Gulf coast, and Sinaloa has apparently been sending proxy forces eastward into the territory of the Zetas or their allies, in what now appears to have become a nationwide battle.

"As long as there is definition on the division of territories, between Sinaloa and the Zetas, we are going to continue seeing this," said Benitez.

Guadalajara's mayor, Jorge Aristoteles Sandoval, told reporters that "these acts of barbarism show how the war between cartels, and crime, is getting more brutal."

"It's sad to see what's going on," taxi driver Jesus Amado said. "We used to be looking at the problem from afar. Now we're not, we've got it right here."

Officials initially reported that there were 23 bodies found. Ulises Enrique Camacho, a spokesman for the attorney-general's office, said Thursday afternoon that the toll had risen to 26.

Crime in this colonial city of some 1.5 million people was historically dominated by the powerful Sinaloa cartel, but the group's tight grip was shattered by the death of its regional commander, Ignacio "Nacho" Coronel, in a shootout with federal police in July 2010.

Guadalajara's murder rate then soared as factions of the cartel known as the New Generation and the Resistance battled to control Coronel's territory and assets. Street battles have left hundreds dead in the city and surrounding areas.

Killing slowed to a trickle during the Oct. 15-30 Pan American Games, which brought a massive influx of police and soldiers. Law-enforcement officials and analysts said they were nonetheless concerned that a Zetas onslaught could be imminent.

On Wednesday, 17 bodies were found burned in two pickup trucks in a strikingly similar attack in Sinaloa, the home state of the eponymous cartel. Twelve of the bodies were in the back of one truck, some of them handcuffed and wearing bulletproof vests.

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Associated Press writers E. Eduardo Castillo and Michael Weissenstein in Mexico City contributed to this report.

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06:36 AM on 11/28/2011
Could balance the deficit if you cut the drug dealers out and save some lives.
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RockyMissouri
'You must be carefully taught to hate'...
12:34 PM on 11/28/2011
Pharmaceutical companies keep charging more and more outrageous prices.... THEY are as complicit as the cartels....

Have you ever noticed - while you are waiting in the Drs. office - all of the drug representatives who are there...??? It's amazing.... Try to notice sometime... The drug problem that goes unnoticed ............
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03:43 AM on 11/28/2011
Can't we all just get along?
10:32 PM on 11/27/2011
I agree with Dr Max on a few issues. Legalization may not stop all the cartel profits but it will sure make a dent in their livelyhoods. Most likely their prices will drop. Lets face it, anything I ever bought (made in Mexico) was cheap.
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outasite
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05:40 AM on 11/28/2011
Legalization is not a good idea. First, the drug cartels don't make money selling drugs to Mexicans. The money comes from controlling the border and selling to US clients. Drugs are already cheap in Mexico and easy to come by. Making them legal will just create more addicts and junkies and spur the crime rate for burglary, theft, etc. The only solution is to wage full unconditional war on the cartels, cut off their drug trade, and eliminate their drug sources.
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RockyMissouri
'You must be carefully taught to hate'...
09:34 AM on 11/28/2011
Google LEAP.......and prepare to be shocked.
Tim The Enchanter
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10:39 AM on 11/28/2011
Marijuana now costs more than 1000 times more than just about any other agricultural product.
06:36 PM on 11/27/2011
Its sad to keep hearing about all of this violence and bloodshed coming out of Mexico. The problem is easy to ignore or dismiss because it is happening so far away from me but I feel there is more that can be done. Mexico wants to start a war against drugs but I dont feel their approach to it is appropriate. Mexico should go under military control to help just end it once and for all. It will be more expensive, yes, but it will help end the fighting sooner. Albeit most of their police force is under the control of the Zetas and various other cartels but hopefully the military is only somewhat corrupt and the good men of this country outweigh the bad
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tjconkster
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07:34 PM on 11/27/2011
Not so far from here...Ciudad Juarez is about 250 miles from where I'm sitting...
Tim The Enchanter
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10:41 AM on 11/28/2011
It essentially is under military control. It's a huge country, you can't just "end it". You can only hope that they kill each other in sufficient quantities that the military can finish off the rest of the current gangs, but new ones will always come.

The US needs to legalize drugs, for the sake of Mexico.
02:41 PM on 11/27/2011
....well i guess as long as drugs are illegal, this problem will be there.... legalize drugs and regulate.
12:08 PM on 11/27/2011
Ahhhh, the good ole days, Al Capone, Machine Gun Kelly, Baby Face Nelson, Icepick Willie, etc etc etc.
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tjconkster
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07:35 PM on 11/27/2011
and J. Edgar is busy making movies instead of hunting them down!
11:57 PM on 11/26/2011
Are there no honest police or military in Mexico?
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tjconkster
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07:37 PM on 11/27/2011
Yes there are...I've met some of them..the problem is they have a short life expectancy...two excellent Federales who worked with us and also lectured at a seminar regarding cartel / smuggling activities are both dead...less than a year after helping us out in Nuevo Mexico....
11:54 PM on 11/26/2011
I love how there's always a ". . .law enforcement official who was not authorized to speak on the record." If he's not authorized, why the he11 is he running his mouth?

Secondly, if the bodies were of suspected gang members, why aren't we chalking that up to a win? Gang A kills a whole bunch of Gang B, and the authorities didn't have to do anything but clean it up? I'd have to say that would be the easiest gig for those cops in a while. Besides, the cops were probably in on it anyway. Mexico has one of, if not the, highest rates of police corruption in the world. Just let them kill each other off.
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tjconkster
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07:38 PM on 11/27/2011
If only it was that easy....
11:53 PM on 11/26/2011
The violence in Mexico will not end until the people of Mexico stand up and demand change.

The people of Mexico have accepted the police and government corruption for too long. It is now ingrained in society. The government has never had an economic plan to provide jobs and services for it's people. Where are the next generation of leaders in Mexico demanding change?

If the people of the Middle East and North Africa can change their countries so can the Mexican people.
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08:07 AM on 11/27/2011
Why should they bother demanding change when they can just come here illegally? We make it too easy for them.
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waltwww
10:46 AM on 11/27/2011
Was getting ready to say the samething!
Tim The Enchanter
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10:43 AM on 11/28/2011
No, what it will take is handing out weapons to all the people.

The Mexican people don't have weapons in any kind of amount to protect themselves.
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DrMaxChartrand
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11:01 PM on 11/26/2011
I see some very sad and cruel comments from some of the contributors to this discussion string who seem to confuse the millions of innocent, honest, humble people of Mexico with the evil bully terrorists of the drug cartels. Please, consider many of our Mexican brothers as refugees from terror and economic blight, and help the public discourse come back to compassion and kindness. While the current administration in the US go out of their way to assure Afghan opium reaches goes undeterred, is processed into its poisonous varients, as well as the cocaine and marijuana, and meth--assuring their safe passage across our porous borders with nothing more than an occassion "drug bust" to look like they are "doing something". We owe it to the Mexican people to show more understanding and to find ways to help them through this, not these silly comments that the dead bodies represent fewer illegals to come across our border. We should be ashamed of ourselves with such inhumane, unAmerican sentiments.
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camanokat
Outta this world
11:47 PM on 11/26/2011
I love the people of Mexico..not so much the cartels. We need to legalize cannabis here and end the cartels control of this harmless plant.
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DrMaxChartrand
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12:03 PM on 11/27/2011
legalizing marijuana will not hurt the cartels one whit.
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muck-raker
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05:01 PM on 11/27/2011
Have we not come to such an impasse in the modern world that we must love our enemies - or else? The chain reaction of evil - hate begetting hate, wars producing more wars - must be broken, or else we shall be plunged into the dark abyss of annihilation.
Martin Luther King, Jr.

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10:49 PM on 11/26/2011
Aren't there laws against bodies being left unattended in residential areas.
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emigholzjr
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10:31 PM on 11/26/2011
The Mexican news said, that only two of the victims had any criminal record and that more than likely they were not in gang's and that the authorities had no idea why these men were killed. Only one had a "z" in oil on his chest. It might be a new tactic of horror by the gangs.
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DrMaxChartrand
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11:04 PM on 11/26/2011
The cartels are the enemy of Mexico and of our country, as well. The dead were someone's son, brother, nephew, or husband. Many of the illegals we have been lambasting in our public discourse at the expense of ignoring these terrorists are really honest to goodness refugees from the violence and hopelessness of their homeland.
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emigholzjr
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02:03 AM on 11/27/2011
We(The US) have created a society(Of illegals) based on lawlessness.
02:45 PM on 11/27/2011
IF ALL DRUGS WERE LEGAL THE CARTELS WOULD SIMPLY BE BUSINESS MEN....
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10:48 AM on 11/28/2011
No criminal record hardly makes them not in a cartel. Probably most have no criminal record.
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emigholzjr
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03:40 PM on 11/28/2011
Well, my point is that the crime scene was unusual and that the Mexican police definably wanted to look into the investigation much more thoroughly before assuming anything.
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DrMaxChartrand
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10:27 PM on 11/26/2011
These evil thugs need to be put out of business once and for all. They are a menace to their own people, and a deadly enemy to humanity. They have done far more damage than Al-Queda or any of the officially declared enemies. They, not the innocent refugees who come across our borders for some semblance of peace, should be the subject of our current discussion on immigration issues.
04:30 PM on 11/27/2011
AND YOU DO NOT THINK AL-QUEDA IS NOT IN THE DRUG business
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DrMaxChartrand
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01:58 AM on 11/28/2011
Yes, with our help, Al-Queda is in the drug business. But their Mexican counterparts pose a far greater danger to our public well-being than do the Muslim terrorists.
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10:48 AM on 11/28/2011
Then legalize drugs. That's the only way it will happen, short of carpet bombing.
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10:19 PM on 11/26/2011
Most of the population is either shot or in the US.
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DrMaxChartrand
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11:07 PM on 11/26/2011
Most of the 130 million human beings from Mexico are in the US or have been shot? The implications of such a cruel statement is difficult to fathom in light of the fact that refugees from violence and economic blight such as this at one time were welcomed with open arms by generous Americans. At the least, we should designate the evil drug cartels as the enemy of every good person on this Earth, and the innocents who are escaping their grasp as people deserving our understanding.
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robertstone1robert
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11:54 PM on 11/26/2011
I see nothing or insensitive in my statement. What are you suggesting--that we throw open our borders and become the United States of Mexico? Moreover, where do you propose these refugees live--in you house? Think practically.
10:16 PM on 11/26/2011
Killing each other works for me! This is unbelievable that a country with military resources cannot control this. In this country we have generational ranchers afraid for their lives and those of thier families because WE do not control the border.

Guess we know what to do with all the returning Special Ops troops!
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DrMaxChartrand
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10:32 PM on 11/26/2011
Their military are far outgunned and outmonied by these billiaonarie thugs. Many of those we are deporting are refugees from a terror not known in this himisphere since the Sandanistas of the 1980s. Yet our federal government goes out of its way to ignore the pleas of the ranchers on the border who watch the drug mules trains with back packs loaded with deadly poison for our youth come across with total impunity. We have failed to declare the drug cartels our greatest enemy, and as a nation are directing our ire at the wrong people, as if by design.
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camanokat
Outta this world
11:50 PM on 11/26/2011
Cannabis is medicine, not poison and we should be free to grow it here and not support the cartels through draconian "drug" laws.
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04:15 PM on 11/27/2011
Google LEAP....law enforcement against prohibition.....