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Occupy Wall Street Takes On Black Friday Amid Skepticism

Occupy Black Friday

First Posted: 11/24/11 08:10 AM ET Updated: 11/24/11 09:37 AM ET

With Black Friday heralding the start of the shopping season, a bevy of groups identified with the Occupy Wall Street movement are asking consumers to reconsider their spending habits.

But unlike other high-profile Occupy efforts of late -- such as last week's march across the Brooklyn Bridge, in which thousands of activists participated, it's unclear whether the pushback against Black Friday shopping will serve as a show of strength for the movement.

"I don't think that they're going to gain any traction out of this one," said Stephen Hoch, a marketing professor at the Wharton School of Business at the University of Pennsylvania. "If I was them, I wouldn't be investing a whole lot of energy in using this as a poster child for what's wrong with our country."

Black Friday, otherwise known as the day after Thanksgiving, serves as the unofficial start of the November-December holiday shopping corridor, one of the busiest times of year for retailers. About 152 million people are expected to shop this Friday, in what has become an annual tradition of shoppers mobbing stores in the hopes of getting limited-time deals.

This November, a number of Occupy Wall Street groups have publicized plans to oppose Black Friday in one form or another.

These efforts are in line with Occupy Wall Street's overall mission of reclaiming power from major corporations and financial institutions, and come a little more than a week after the cradle of the movement, Manhattan's Zuccotti Park, was forcibly evacuated on the orders of Mayor Michael Bloomberg.

One group, known as Occupy Black Friday, is urging shoppers to bypass chain stores in favor of small and local businesses, while another group, named Don't Occupy Walmart, is organizing a boycott of Walmart stores in protest of what it calls unjust and anti-union practices on the part of the retail giant.

Still other Occupy chapters around the country are planning flash mobs, singing protests and other public demonstrations with the aim of encouraging shoppers to support local merchants.

Sean McKeown, a chemist and New York resident who has spearheaded the Don't Occupy Walmart group, told The Huffington Post that his group's actions are intended in part to make a statement about the Occupy movement's enduring presence in New York, now that Zuccotti Park has been cleared.

"We're trying to show that even if we don't have a park that we're staying in, we certainly have the ability to do a lot of things," said McKeown, 31. "This is a way to show the power of the movement."

Still, skeptics question whether the disparate Occupy efforts -- which have been unevenly publicized, and do not appear to be centrally coordinated -- stand much chance of interrupting the post-Thanksgiving crush at stores and shopping malls.

"It will be very difficult for any kind of organization to thwart the efforts of both retailers and consumers as they quest for the perfect deal," said Marshal Cohen, chief retail analyst at the NPD Group, a market research company. "No one is going to get in these people's way."

Since the Internet has made it possible to shop from anywhere and at any time of day, Cohen noted -- and since seasonal deals are often available not just on Black Friday, but for days and weeks afterward -- Occupy protesters could have a hard time making their message as widely heard as they'd like.

And since many small and local businesses get their goods from the same corporate suppliers that stock the shelves at Walmart and Target, it's not clear whether encouraging people to shop locally will strike much of a blow to big business.

"You're basically taking from Peter to give to Paul in many cases," Cohen said. "What's the difference if I buy Tropicana orange juice from Walmart or if I buy it from the local grocery store?"

Occupy Black Friday, which is among the groups calling for people to spend locally rather than at chain stores, could not be reached for comment.

The anti-consumption spirit of the various scheduled Occupy events has a precedent in Buy Nothing Day, the yearly undertaking -- always scheduled to fall on Black Friday -- in which participants refrain from spending any money.

Buy Nothing Day was created some 20 years ago by advocates associated with the Vancouver magazine Adbusters, which also issued the original call for the movement that would become Occupy Wall Street. While it remains a red-letter date on the calendars of many social activists, its effects on retail sales have traditionally been less than earthshattering.

"They're fragmentary, they're ephemeral," said Richard Hastings, a macro and consumer strategist at Global Hunter Securities, of Buy Nothing Day and similar campaigns that have attempted to build commercial headwinds on Black Friday. "To really be quite poetic about it, they're evanescent."

Hastings said that "the Occupy movement in the U.S. can only have some impact if it starts to do boycotts" -- but added that he does not expect the anti-Black Friday forces to change many minds this year.

"This is not a society where sitting around and obsessing about ideology goes on and on forever," Hastings said. "We've been a consumer society for an extremely long time."

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Percentage of people buying in 2010: 4.5 percent
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With Black Friday heralding the start of the shopping season, a bevy of groups identified with the Occupy Wall Street movement are asking consumers to reconsider their spending habits. But unlike o...
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MrMainstreet
political thought from outside the beltway
04:22 PM on 11/29/2011
Boycotting a shopping day isnt going to change anything, it is purely symbolic. Boycotting Nike for 90 days would have a tremendous impact. Organizing a spoked boycott of Iconic American Brands once made here and now made overseas with slave labor has the potential to cost corporations billions of dollars.This movement needs to focus on direct economic action that will actually impact the bad actors in our economy. There are literally hundreds of companies we could target in a spoked method and have a very minimal impact on American workers or consumers but have a tremendous impact on corporations. Once we have proven we have this economic clout then we can take on the banks,the fed,and the government.
12:56 PM on 11/28/2011
SAID IT B 4...AND I'LL SAY IT AGAIN....BLACK FRIDAY ONLY PROVED THAT THE 99% IS JUST AS GREEDY AS THE 1%.....AND BTW...DON'T MOST IF NOT ALL RELIGIONS CONDEMN GREED...??
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looloohulu
don't own rose colored glasses.
12:45 PM on 11/28/2011
Wharton School of Business at the University of Pennsylvania. "If I was them, I wouldn't be investing a whole lot of energy in using this as a poster child for what's wrong with our country." Well, of course he thinks this because his whole existence is invested in business and consumerism succeeding. Making useless stuff, buying useless stuff—stuff that ruins the earth, the air, the water, is definitely not worth it.
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Berettasskeeter
For what we are about to receive, may we be truly
01:19 PM on 11/28/2011
Oddly enough, the people shopping on Friday obviously disagree with you!
Semper fi
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plmyfinger
A life without knowledge is death in disguise
11:50 AM on 11/28/2011
From what I hear the OWS guys did a great job.. this was the HIGHEST sales black friday ever!
Oh.. they were against it.. oops
NoBlueDogs
FIGHT Offshoring!!!
06:35 PM on 11/28/2011
I'd rather be OWS and be ridiculed by you than be one of those shoppers stampeding each other in those stores.
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plmyfinger
A life without knowledge is death in disguise
10:33 PM on 11/28/2011
That's cute and I'm moved.
Next time, try to do something that moves your goals forward, not just 'has the right intentions', no matter how delusional.
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amnholly
USAF combat veteran
11:17 AM on 11/28/2011
Black Friday is a perfect time to sit back and watch how the government and capitalism have turned Americans into a mindless herd of cattle. It took many years and a lot of string-pulling behind the curtain but it is so easy for them to control the masses now. Stalin-era USSR could only have dreamed of such streamlined population control. We're so numb to it now but the propaganda is everywhere, even in the Sprite commercials. The problem is that more people are beginning to see behind that curtain. Riots and protests are going to become more frequent as disgruntled citizens take to the streets and the formation of a police state is right on the horizon. It all reads like a chapter from 1984.
10:51 AM on 11/28/2011
Well, the REAL American's answer was record spending on Black Friday. Retailers have a robust day (weekend) read headlines. No better reply to Occupy than that.
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mataylor16
You all want it one way. But, its the other way. -
03:57 PM on 11/28/2011
You know, I just love it when a real American pipes up. Thanks for making that difference.
NoBlueDogs
FIGHT Offshoring!!!
06:37 PM on 11/28/2011
Long live stampedes, pepper spray battles and fist fights over $2 waffle irons! They sure showed OWS didn't they!
12:34 AM on 11/28/2011
For those of you that want to help the cause but dont want to live on the street, you can donate what you can at the above link, I just donated $50, it aint much but I know it wil be put to good use, we help purchase signs, flyers, promotional items, water and food, DonateToOccupyWallStreet.Info
demsrsilly
Proud supporter of workplace freedom.
07:12 AM on 11/28/2011
Kind of like donating money on the Titanic for more buckets to bail out the water.
07:30 PM on 11/28/2011
You have to keep the faith, I know it looks like an uphill battle but we cant just sit around and play dead, the seed has been sowed, hopefully with support we can help it grow!!
DonateToOccupyWallStreet.Info
08:31 AM on 11/28/2011
And the money goes right into the banks.
07:31 PM on 11/28/2011
newamericanrevolution November 28, 2011 at 7:05pm

All Donations to DonateToOc¬cupyWallsS¬treet.Info is directed to OccupyWall¬Street "WePay" account, it does not go into a personal bank account !! Thank you for the concern, "The New American Revolution¬" Support Team.
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Nancy Daniel
God is Love
11:56 PM on 11/27/2011
"We want rich people to stop keeping all the money and to divide it more evenly, even though we have no plan for implementi­ng an equitable exchange, nor do we know who is truly worthy of it and we're not sure which politician­s to vote in who will make any changes in legislatio­n for it.
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10:52 AM on 11/28/2011
LOL. What Morons eh?
12:37 PM on 11/28/2011
LOL. Read my comment to Nancy and tell me who the moron really is? The protetors with full knowlegde of what their doing, who are organized, and have clear demands that positivly affect the 99% of our population but dont put corporations at a disadvantage, it just makes them have to obey the laws like everyone else. Or the people calling those protestors morons whom have no idea what their protesting about, is completely uneducated on the subject matter, and gets all their information about them from major media sites whom the OWS movement is against? Idk about you but the moron seems pretty clear and its definatly not the protestors.
12:31 PM on 11/28/2011
You obviously have no idea what the OWS movement is about or what their goals are huh? dont worry tho im here to educate people like you. First off, what you said in your comment about wanting to redistrubute wealth in our country is actually one of the many effects that would happen if there demands were to go through and be voted in there favor. Now, ill explain there actual demands that they have stated and sent to congress. First off, they want to remove money from politics, they dont want major corporations to be able to anonymously donate millions upon millions of $$ to politicions for campainging money to get into office to vote for the policys that help the corporations. Secondly they want to reinstate the Glass-steele act to seperate coomercial banks from investment banks to eliminate the possibilty of mortgage fraud and investment fraud. Thirdly they want to make it illegal for politicions to vote on laws that directly affect financial investments that the politcions themselves are putting money into. Be more educated on the subject matter please. OWS Wallstreet!
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JoAnn Kennedy
01:29 PM on 11/27/2011
i STAYED HOME, IT WAS wonderful, absolutely wonderful. My choice, go to store real early and get trampled by insane people trying to get a tickle me Elmo -- this year it was a waffle maker. Or staying home and sleeping in, and relaxing. How is it that there is never a safety issue, even though people get hurt, at these black friday store openings at all hours of the early morning ?
01:49 AM on 11/28/2011
ok so you stayed home on friday.... BFD. will you go out sporadically the rest of the month an buy all your loved ones presents galore?
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JoAnn Kennedy
10:39 AM on 11/28/2011
Nope I will leave it to you BFD
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hiredshoe
Why did the least qualified get elected
10:11 AM on 11/27/2011
Why aren't the occupiers in the front yards of professional ballplayers and hollywood actors,the disparity between their salaries and mine is much greater then wall streeters
07:46 PM on 11/27/2011
BECAUSE THE BALL PLAYERS AND THE HOLLYWWOD ACTORS DID NOT CREATED THIS MESS WE ARE IN DAH.....................................
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hiredshoe
Why did the least qualified get elected
08:52 PM on 11/27/2011
No it was caused by a democratic controlled congress led by Frank and Dodd.I don't believe you really know what they' are protesting.
02:00 AM on 11/28/2011
But they are just as guilty.

please tell me Miss educated one..... exactly when did the country and the system in place go wrong... please tell me the persons who created the "mess" we are in?

Then tell me the viable realistic overnight solution to the current economic problems.
08:39 PM on 11/28/2011
Because they are BFF with all the Hollywood actors, remember? Without the media and Hollywood, America would have said "Hey, 20-30,000 protesters driving and flying around the US ain't 99% of 312 million!" a lot sooner than we did!!
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dimplesmile7
09:30 AM on 11/27/2011
People complaint about OWS yet all of the riots occurred inside of stores and malls this week. Those self reliant people are violent.
01:02 PM on 11/28/2011
AMEN...AMEN...AMEN...!!!
06:50 AM on 11/27/2011
MEANWHILE, the other days of the year, WE (middle and low income Americans) ARE IN RED...
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Elyriaohio
Stop the Monarchy
05:45 AM on 11/27/2011
There's only ONE way to stop women from shopping mega-sales...and nobody knows what it is.
07:47 PM on 11/27/2011
well i am a woman and you would NEVER SEE ME IN ANY STORE..............
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Berettasskeeter
For what we are about to receive, may we be truly
01:22 PM on 11/28/2011
Where did you purchase the computer you are using??????
Semper fi
12:28 AM on 11/27/2011
Americans have homes full of plastic stuff from China, but little to no savings. Dumb.
07:48 PM on 11/27/2011
AND YOUR POINT IS???????????????????//
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latoussaint
Truths and roses have thorns about them.-HDT
09:05 AM on 11/28/2011
I understand his point completely. Shame on the many ignorant Americans that caused this country to crumble by making dumb choices, electing stupid officials, purchasing a lot of plastic cheap stuff made in china, loans you can't afford, and have no savings.
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MrBadExample
Friends call me ‘exampleicious’
11:42 PM on 11/26/2011
Buy Nothing Day has been around for some 20 years. Some Occupy groups embraced protesting it this year, most did not. The NY and Brooklyn contingents didn't get too excited about it--they have other issues on their plate.

http://www.adbusters.org/campaigns/bnd

That said, there is something kind of obscene about the orgies of buying going on in the fourth Christmas since the whole system melted down in in 2008. Counting discouraged workers and those who've timed out of unemployment benefits, we're at some 16% unemployment. Why are we still giving up money we don't have for things we can't afford and probably don't need?
01:12 PM on 11/28/2011
ever hear of the word "GREED"..??? most religions condemn it...!!! Religion is the oldest political tool in the book...WHAT A MESS..!!