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GOP Would Beg Millionaires For More Tax, Freeze Federal Workers To Fund Payroll Tax Cut

Payroll Tax Cut

Posted: 11/30/11 06:23 PM ET

WASHINGTON -- Senate Republicans unveiled a plan Wednesday to cut payroll taxes that asks the rich to pay more tax if they feel like it, freezes and cuts the federal workforce, and means tests for government benefits.

The measure, introduced by Sen. Dean Heller (R-Nev.), is the GOP answer to a Democratic plan to extend and expand a payroll tax holiday through 2012 by slapping a 3.25 percent surtax on incomes above $1 million.

Many Republicans oppose such a tax as "punishing job creators." But they are not above requesting alms from the wealthy in a part of their proposal that sounds like a plea to millionaires.

A fact sheet the Senate GOP leadership released says the plan: "Gives Millionaires & Billionaires Another Opportunity To Help With The Deficit" and "Includes Sen. John Thune's 'Buffet Rule Act of 2011' which makes it easy for millionaires like Warren Buffet who want to pay more taxes to reduce the federal deficit with a voluntary contribution via their tax returns."

Despite the unlikely appeal to the wealthy, the measure does contain several provisions Democrats will have to take more seriously, including a suggestion backed by previous deficit-reduction efforts to freeze federal pay for three years and cut the federal workforce.

The GOP plan cites Congressional Budget Office numbers that found such a move would save $111.5 billion.

The plan also appears to pick up on a report by Sen. Tom Coburn (R-Okla.) that found millionaires get billions of dollars in federal benefits every year. The proposal suggests means testing such things as food stamps, unemployment insurance and Medicare to exclude millionaires.

It also suggests freezing Social Security cost-of-living adjustments for three years for higher income recipients -- which was first included in the health care reform law.

Democrats were nonplussed by the offer, but said at least it shows Republicans favor the payroll tax cut.

"We are glad Republicans have seen the light and taken up Democrats' call to pass a middle-class tax cut, just a few days after their leadership indicated they would oppose it," said Adam Jentleson, a spokesman for the Democratic leadership in a statement. "However, Democrats' proposal would put more money in the pockets of middle class families and create more jobs."

"The Republican proposal cannot pass the Senate as it stands, but now that Republicans have reversed their position on this middle-class tax cut," Jentleson said, "we look forward to working with them to negotiate a consensus solution."

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WASHINGTON -- Senate Republicans unveiled a plan Wednesday to cut payroll taxes that asks the rich to pay more tax if they feel like it, freezes and cuts the federal workforce, and means tests for gov...
WASHINGTON -- Senate Republicans unveiled a plan Wednesday to cut payroll taxes that asks the rich to pay more tax if they feel like it, freezes and cuts the federal workforce, and means tests for gov...
 
 
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COMMUNITY PUNDITS
Gaylord P Farqua 08:40 AM on 12/01/2011
Perhaps this passing of the hat could be extended to the rest of us instead of having most of the taxes of the workers of America deducted from their paychecks, for their convenience.  Unlike the very rich who first hire a CPA and a tax lawyer and then negotiate their contribution, most Americans have little or no say in what they pay and virtually no recourse if they dispute an amount. No matter how  Read More...
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NRMLUNIT
BOLD AS LOVE
04:48 PM on 12/05/2011
We need a new test for "job creators". Prove just how many jobs you created and you will get a break. Just remember,anything you say can,and will be used against you in a court of law.
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If we don't stand up for us who will?
02:10 PM on 12/03/2011
I guess if Sen. Tom Coburn (R-Okla.) and all other GOP want to protect and benefit their mega-wealthy sugar daddies with this kind of help the GOP will succeed in their goals. Question. Why are the rest of us here except to put in our collective tax payments? Individually we the un-wealthy are meaningless and The GOP continues to show this.......
12:15 AM on 12/02/2011
It sould be no surprise that Sen. Tom Coburn (R-Okla.) found that millionaires get billions of dollars in federal benefits every year.
However, the Republican proposal to means test entitlements such as food stamps, unemployment insurance and Medicare to exclude millionaires will do little to solve our Revenue problem.
Just another trick to fool the Republican 50% into Voting to support the Upper 1% Tax Cuts.
05:20 PM on 12/01/2011
Keep on talking Republicans. Got yourself in a little hole with your f the working class rhetoric? Keep on digging! More flapping GOP lips now, fewer in Congress in 2013.
05:01 PM on 12/01/2011
Many Republicans oppose such a tax as "punishing job creators."

How absolutely ludicrous. Where were the jobs after the initial tax cuts? Everything was hidden by the housing bubble (the second crash of the Bush era). Now, after almost ten years, things are worse.
03:03 PM on 12/01/2011
This is a travesty.

First, most of these people are NOT job creators. If they were, based on the wealth they've accumulated, we have a jobs surplus proportionate to their gains. Many of these are people who have profited from the misfortune of others, or by "churning" or inserting themselves into transactions.

Second, begging the wealthy for handouts? Even third world countries have more dignity than that.

Third, NONE of these people are "self-made". They got rich using the money and sweat equity of millions of average Americans. Some, like Buffet and Baits recognize that, count their blessings, appreciate their good fortune and respond in kind. The rest are about as American as Soviet Oligarchs.
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Whats Inaname
Karma: What Goes Around Comes Around
12:44 PM on 12/01/2011
To the Erick Erickson 53%'s how does it feel to know that not only are the 47% you claim are the problem because of the "entitlements" they receive but now it is also the some of the 1% who also get these same "entitlements"? Directly from the article:

"The plan also appears to pick up on a report by Sen. Tom Coburn (R-Okla.) that “FOUND MILLIONAIRES GET BILLIONS OF DOLLARS IN FEDERAL BENEFITS EVERY YEAR”. The proposal suggests means testing such things as food stamps, unemployment insurance and Medicare to exclude millionaires."

So you keep claiming it is "YOUR TAXES" that are being given to the 47%. Looks like your theory and logic behind your retaliation at OWS has been misdirected and the "joke" is on you!

If they are in the "1%" and collecting food stamps and unemployment insurance do you really believe that given a "choice" to pay more in taxes, they will actually do it? They are after all the "JOB CREATORS"! Funny thing is the only people they want to have a job are the ones that they turn in their forms too at the "WELFARE" and "UNEMPLOYMENT" office.

Come on please do "tell". I will await your "intellectual" responses and I can't wait to hear them.

KARMA: "WHAT GOES AROUND COMES AROUND."

Even if you are a non-believer, you certainly have to appreciate it when it makes an appearance!
12:41 PM on 12/01/2011
The 1% pays 70% of all capital gains taxes. Instead of slapping a 3.25 percent surtax on incomes above $1 million, just tax capital gains as “regular” income (which is 35% for the top marginal income earners). Instead of paying only 15% for capital gains taxes (which today is at an historical low and not seen since 1921 when capital gains were once taxed at 12.5%), they would be paying their fair share of 35%.

You Pay Hidden Entitlements for the Rich
http://bud-meyers.blogspot.com/2011/11/you-pay-hidden-entitlements-for-rich.html
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deebeedonny
12:28 PM on 12/01/2011
the republicans claim, they are asking the rich to pay more taxes, "if they feel like it"....i'm sure the millionaires/billionaires, will be standing in lines, to pay more taxes. yeah right..,..the notion is ridiculous, and just shows what would happen to our great nation if the repubs get control. i'm certain, the rich will be volunteering to pay more taxes. the greedy corporations, who hide behind the bush/republicans tax code provisions, are lobbying heavily to permanently extend the tax code laws, that allows corporations to "permanently" "avoid", paying u.s. taxes on foreign profits. it opens the door for corporations to close american factories, build and relocate to foreign lands, flood the u.s. market with their foreign made products, and avoid paying u.s. taxes....yeah mc connell, great plan. vote out the repub controlled congress, and for heavens sake, keep then out of the oval office..... the best choice, Obama 2012...
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Eris23Skidoo
Dischordian Keynesian
01:08 PM on 12/01/2011
If the GOP gets back in power ALL taxes will be optional....for the top 1%.
12:24 PM on 12/01/2011
So let me get this straight. If raising taxes on millionaires will punish job creation, then it should also be true that a business which pays a negative corporate tax rate should be the engine of economic growth in America.

GE paid a negative corporate tax rate in 2010. In the past decade, GE has shed 34,000 American jobs, and added 25,000 jobs overseas.
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Eris23Skidoo
Dischordian Keynesian
01:11 PM on 12/01/2011
So much for that theory. I guess the only logical conclusion is that republicans want their tax cuts no matter what and regardless of whether or not their claims are justified. They want a tax cut in the lean times and a tax cut in the fat times. They want a tax cut in the big times and a tax cut in the small times. If a car drives by, they want a tax cut. If a bird chirps, tax cut. Football game? Tax cut.

But isn't it funny how the only taxes they really care about cutting are the taxes that rich people pay.
03:01 PM on 12/01/2011
2 questions: (1) Assuming your figures are correct, why do you believe GE laid off American jobs and added jobs overseas? (2) If instead of negative corporate tax rate, corporate taxes were doubled, or tripled, what effect do you think that would have on GE and the economy?

For every government intervention, this is a multitude of effects--intended and unintended--especially in the long-run. Merely taxing corporations more will simply mean higher prices passed onto the consumer they raise prices to minimize loss of profits. If you want jobs, incentivize entrepreneurship, innovation, and small business. What's the biggest barrier to small business? Hint; It's not a lack of regulation or low taxes.

Here is a revealing tongue-in-cheek video of just how huge federal spending is and a "taxing the rich" solution.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JY8LKII_MNA
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Eris23Skidoo
Dischordian Keynesian
09:42 PM on 12/01/2011
It is not true that companies merely pass on a tax increase to their customers. Some are able to do that but some are not. It depends on how elastic the good is that they buy and sell. Your statement assumes that all goods are inelastic, therefore the customer will purchase the same amount at any price. You are assuming that demand, instead of being an upward-sloping line, is perfectly vertical. Face it, you have no clue what you are talking about. I'm not even going to watch your video.
11:43 AM on 12/01/2011
Negotiate with them?

I kind of doubt that is going to happen......
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be practical
Vote for a Democratic Congress
11:32 AM on 12/01/2011
So, another words, the GOPTEA's will agree to another unfunded tax cut. Like that puts us back on course. Did these people even make it through high school economics?
11:40 AM on 12/01/2011
Everything the GOPTEA needs to know about economics they get from Fox "News".
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opinioned1
Faux=Stupid
11:31 AM on 12/01/2011
Mr. Chinless one you are a joke, an old fool, and laughable. Get ready for a huge disappointment, Obama will win a second term, you will see a democratic veto proof majority elected in the senate and enough GOP/bag/gers voted out in congress, that it becomes controlled by democrats again.

American citizens are sick of your partisan do nothing rants while protecting the rich at any cost.The only manner of saving our nation from ruin is to tell those like you take a hike.
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JudgementDay
11:41 AM on 12/01/2011
Just keep telling yourself that. Let me know how that works out for you. LMAO@U
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Republicanistan
Ignorance is Strength in Baggerstan
12:20 PM on 12/01/2011
you bet we will.
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Eris23Skidoo
Dischordian Keynesian
01:13 PM on 12/01/2011
And we won't stop. You're going to get sick of hearing about it. I bet after Obama trounces your party again you won't even come around here.
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K August
Research alecexposed
11:19 AM on 12/01/2011
I have an idea for the GOP.
Didn't they just vote to have another tax holiday for all the companies that sheltered their incomes in off-shore tax havens? They told them if they "repatriated" all their money they'd only be taxed on it at 5%! Why lay off 200,000 workers when the "jobs creators" are going to be bringing back all that cash to create jobs and won't that stimulate the economy and bring in more tax revenue?
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be practical
Vote for a Democratic Congress
11:17 AM on 12/01/2011
Instead of giving the wealthy the 'choice', since we know that would be less than 1% of the 1% I have a better. Give me a choice - to pay less - choice is such a good idea.
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opinioned1
Faux=Stupid
11:34 AM on 12/01/2011
Sorry you don`t qualify since you don`t contribute millions in campaign cash. Only those with a flush check book need apply and you can count on a new loop hole in the tax code should anyone actually do what this fool wants.
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JudgementDay
11:50 AM on 12/01/2011
Speaking of loopholes, tax breaks, and bailouts. Check out some of Obama's contributors. Here is the 1%, the you love to hate, and look at the Universities that are raising the tuition rates because they don't have enough money to operate but have enough money for politics?

University of California $1,648,685
Goldman Sachs $1,013,091
Harvard University $878,164
Microsoft Corp $852,167
Google Inc $814,540
JPMorgan Chase & Co $808,799
Citigroup Inc $736,771
Time Warner $624,618
Sidley Austin LLP $600,298
Stanford University $595,716
National Amusements Inc $563,798
WilmerHale LLP $550,668
Columbia University $547,852
Skadden, Arps et al $543,539
UBS AG $532,674
IBM Corp $532,372
General Electric $529,855
US Government $513,308
Morgan Stanley $512,232
Latham & Watkins $503,295