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Luther Strange, Alabama AG, Argues Against Denying Water Under Immigration Law

Alabama Immigration Law

First Posted: 12/05/11 03:36 PM ET Updated: 12/05/11 03:53 PM ET

Alabama government workers should not inquire about residents' immigration status under the state's immigration law during certain "business transactions," such as getting water, parking at a meter or renewing mobile home registration, Attorney General Luther Strange wrote in a guidance Friday.

The letter came amid heavy criticism of Section 30 of HB 56, the portion of Alabama's immigration enforcement law that prohibits "business transactions" between the state and people unable to prove they are in the United States legally.

Attempting to have these types of interactions as an undocumented immigrant is a felony under HB 56, which vaguely defines "business transactions" to include common interactions with the government -- such as water services -- not typically thought of as business. Yet applying for a state marriage license as an undocumented immigrant is exempt. Alabama's immigration law mimics Arizona law SB 1070 by allowing police officers and other state workers to inquire about immigration status.

Strange writes in the Dec. 2 memo that Section 30 should not be applied to "all transactions involving traditional business, but rather transactions involving the issuance of official government documents, licenses, or like items of similar formality granting authorization to the person to engage in some activity."

This could keep undocumented immigrants from losing their homes or being denied water under the law, although the attorney general's statement does not ensure those actions will be prevented.

"I was at the house of a family of five last week who does not have water, and they have not had water since the end of October, because the water company won't give them service because of Section 30," said Justin Cox, an attorney for the American Civil Liberties Union, which sued the state to block HB 56 and aspects of Section 30. "It remains to be seen whether this attorney general memo is going to change anything on the ground. This is one interpretation of what the law requires, but what really matters is how it's going to apply on the ground."

The ACLU and Southern Poverty Law Center sued Alabama in November to block the provision that required mobile home renters or owners to prove they were in the country lawfully. That part of Section 30 could cause undocumented immigrants in the state, some of whom live in mobile homes, to lose their homes because they could not re-register them each year. The full law has also been challenged by a coalition of human rights groups, including the ACLU, and the U.S. Department of Justice.

Failing to receive a current decal for a mobile home is a misdemeanor, but attempting to re-register the home could be a felony under HB 56, putting undocumented immigrants in a difficult position.

A judge issued a temporary restraining order on Nov. 23 to stop the state from using HB 56 to prevent undocumented immigrants from registering mobile homes. The state also extended the deadline for renewing registration by an extra month, to Dec. 31.

Strange's Friday guidance may have been a reaction to controversy over the mobile home decals, Cox said.

"Section 30 in particular and HB 56 generally makes Alabama look terrible, completely inhumane and just mean-spirited," Cox said. "I'm sure that this is a reaction to a lot of the blow-back that's been occurring, specifically with regard to Section 30. But again, words are one thing, actions are something else."

But the law remains somewhat open to interpretation, despite Strange's guidance. In Madison County, Ala., for instance, the county attorney issued written guidance in October saying undocumented immigrants should not be provided with water service or a water meter.

Two top sponsors of HB 56 in the state legislature, Republicans Rep. Micky Hammon and Sen. Scott Beason, said at a hearing on the issue last week that the purpose of the bill is to drive undocumented immigrants out of the state.

"My purpose was to make it difficult for illegal immigrants to live and work in Alabama,"
Hammon said, according to the Associated Press.

Neither legislator responded immediately to requests for comment on Monday about the attorney general's interpretation of the law.

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06:25 PM on 12/06/2011
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arecibo48
Clinton in 2016
04:34 PM on 12/06/2011
Wow, immigrants can't be denied water.
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StrawHat
Eat veggies, don't vote for them
07:11 PM on 12/06/2011
ILLEGAL immigrants shouldn't expect -- or be given -- any services when they arrive here to set up their criminal activities.
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09:14 PM on 12/06/2011
Go cut your ear off.
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arecibo48
Clinton in 2016
08:24 AM on 12/07/2011
StrawHat, since you are not human, are you an alien?
jchandjd
4 degrees, 8 figures
12:20 PM on 12/06/2011
"In Madison County, Ala., for instance, the county attorney issued written guidance in October saying undocumented immigrants should not be provided with water service or a water meter."

Shame on the bunch of you. You are ALL going to pay high and holy for this type of attitude toward a fellow human being come judgment day!
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spytheweb
Black Democrat
04:47 PM on 12/06/2011
judgment day is in your head. How about judgment for crossing the border illegally.

It is against the law for these people to even be in the country.

Japanese arresting illegal alien, that's the way to do it.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cW-BPtdnzLA
jchandjd
4 degrees, 8 figures
05:52 PM on 12/06/2011
Sorry, but crossing the border illegally is only a civil violation in the United States and does not subject anyone to arrest. The action taken for the violation is deportation. The vast majority of people in this country are not hurting anyone, no matter how they got here. The fact they are not documented does not make them evil.

the evil comes in whipping up flase claims and statements as if they were some kind of sub-human who was here to cause harm. That is something like Bachmann is claiming. nothing really but unverified hate speech.
12:10 PM on 12/06/2011
These laws won't accomplish anything in terms of jobs for americans. They will neither do the backbreaking fieldwork nor will they do it for less than minimum wage if even that. Moreover, they won't land the factory jobs that illegals occupied before them. These factories will simply close and move somewhere with a more lenient immigration legislation because they won't cut their profits by paying minimum wage or more. Welcome to the free market!
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Mister Grumpy
An Angry American
12:10 PM on 12/06/2011
So how did the water company know that they were in the US illegally? I've never been asked if I was a citizen when either setting up or paying the bill.
01:36 PM on 12/06/2011
Do you have brown skin? This is racial profiling at its worst!
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spytheweb
Black Democrat
04:49 PM on 12/06/2011
If you're illegal the color of your skin is not going to change that, but you keep trying.
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Sue McFarland
11:51 AM on 12/06/2011
Get real, people!!

1. By denying water to people, regardless of status, public safety/health is compromised. This means anything from not being able to flush toilets (with all of it's attendant problems) and rats attracted by non-collection of garbage (again, with attendant problems of fleas, possible exposure to bubonic plague and everything else rats and other rodents "bring to the table" The last I knew, germs and bacteria didn't bother to check immigration status of the people they use as hosts.)

2. There are millions of people here without their "documents" who's exemplary lives demonstrate nothing more "violent" or "law-breaking" than trying to deal with an overburdened government agency. Please, don't tell me that's any worse than a speeding ticket, driving with a broken tail light and/or windshield. Personally, since two drunk drivers (both white, by the way) tried to literally kill me way back in 1980 (ten days in intensive care before the medical authorities knew whether I would survive or not), I think anyone who is convicted of a DWI/DUI (depending on your jurisdiction) is a far worse threat to public safety/health than a migrant worker who just might not have his/her papers in order.

It's a matter of perspective. I seriously doubt there are many licensed drivers in this country who hasn't received at least one speeding ticket, or even a parking ticket. "Let him who is without sin cast the first stone" type of thing, ya know..
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Derni
11:51 AM on 12/06/2011
Alabama ..known for its college football.. and that's it intellectual achievement LOL The South what a place..
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cliff53
11:48 AM on 12/06/2011
Everyone just sit tight, when Michael Bachmann is elected President, she will deport all 12 million plus illegals single handily.
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Viper1st
multi quasi faceted
12:10 PM on 12/06/2011
Is that not what the current POTUS is doing? Deporting 1 illegal out of the USA every 79 seconds?
jchandjd
4 degrees, 8 figures
12:21 PM on 12/06/2011
Do you think she will just shoot people as they try to sneak back in? Have we come to such hatred of other children of God that we will resort to murder? To protect what from whom???
Political Piggy
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11:07 AM on 12/06/2011
Just curious Alabama - who is going to harvest all of the crops without the illegal immigrant labor your farmers...liike most farmers in the US...rely on?
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hrpmap
Retired man still active..
12:02 PM on 12/06/2011
Americans as soon as they start paying above illeagl slave wages. sounds like you are for illegal slave wages.
Political Piggy
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02:36 PM on 12/06/2011
Not at all. However, you are missing the central point, whether deliberately or not is difficult to tell. Those farmers are not prevented from paying a living wage...no one forces them to...they chose to do it. And, now that the ilegal immigrant work force is drying up, millions of dollars of crops are already rotting in fields because the farmers are not willing to pay enough for Americans to be enticed by the hard labor. Why? Greed? Probably not. More likely it is simple economics...the more you pay for labor, the more expensive your crops are, the higher the cost of food goes, and so on...
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PARepublican
Advocate for personal responsibility
12:05 PM on 12/06/2011
Work visa! Like they do in PA.
Political Piggy
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02:33 PM on 12/06/2011
A State can't grant a work Visa to a foreign national - that is a federal power. The fact is, some farmers in most farming states rely on legal means, like people with work Visas, however, the vasy majority - including in PA, rely on migrant workers without legal documentation.
10:57 AM on 12/06/2011
Would not being denied water be cruel and unusual punishment?
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spytheweb
Black Democrat
04:54 PM on 12/06/2011
They should be picked up and deported. The US makes problems for themselves by playing around with these people, get them out.
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StrawHat
Eat veggies, don't vote for them
10:51 AM on 12/06/2011
Bottom line: criminals and their enablers don't get to FORCE illegal aliens and illegal employers on the rest of us.

This is a nation with borders, citizenship laws, immigration laws, employment laws and a 235 year history as a democratic republic.

This is not the 1600's. This is not Somalia. This is not Mars.

This is the United States of America in 2011 and we SHALL have the rule of law here, or God help us all.
01:06 PM on 12/06/2011
we SHALL have rules of law here---as long as it is other people we are talking about and not ME!!
( never broke a law in your life I bet--did you?)
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StrawHat
Eat veggies, don't vote for them
07:08 PM on 12/06/2011
Illegally entering a foreign country? No.
Identity theft? No.
Buying forged documents? No.
Lying on rental applications? No.
Lying on job applications? No.
Lying on school applications? No.
Human trafficking? No.
Fraud of any kind? No.
Participating in cross-border criminal gangs? No.

You guys love to pretend that being an illegal alien is "no worse than a parking ticket".

That is delusional at best.
10:38 AM on 12/06/2011
Still fighting that nasty old civil war.
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evilchihuahua
Crossing the line just because it's there.
11:19 AM on 12/06/2011
Just a lighter color this time.
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spytheweb
Black Democrat
04:55 PM on 12/06/2011
These people would be illegal in any country.
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somewhatodd
micro-bio undetectable to the naked eye
10:30 AM on 12/06/2011
alabama was a paradise, until it was flooded with illegal immigrants from europe.
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rkmerriman
10:59 AM on 12/06/2011
Were you there then? If not, then you are just another empty headed bigot with access to a computer. According to my history books the people that settled in Alabama were legal according to all existing laws at the time! This of course does not count the roving bands of "native americans" that were to busy trying to kill one another to write laws or develop a civilization!
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punkingale
My wants are simple. My needs are few.
11:38 AM on 12/06/2011
I believe somewhatodd was being facetious.
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somewhatodd
micro-bio undetectable to the naked eye
12:24 PM on 12/06/2011
oh, how them guilty dogs do love to bark!
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BonsaTree
Been Here & Done That!
10:29 AM on 12/06/2011
Oh Hell, why are we worried about civil rights now that Congress has taken away everyone's civil rights and given the military power over all us. National Defense Bill allows the Federal Government to detain indefinitely any person, citizen or not for just about any trumped (no not the Donald) charge they want. Good Bye Constitution... and Where the Hell is HP in all this? Why aren't you raging at the night that this is presenting?
10:58 AM on 12/06/2011
My thoughts as well.
10:27 AM on 12/06/2011
I bet a lot of what happens in Florida is what is happening in Alabama also. Employers purchase mobile home parks. Evict the tenants and fill the mobile home parks with undocumented workers. No reason for the workers to register a trailer...the employers do it. Its the employers who have to be prosecuted if the undocumented worker problem is ever going to be brought under control.
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StrawHat
Eat veggies, don't vote for them
10:30 AM on 12/06/2011
Agreed. Lock the employers up in jail and watch the problem evaporate.
10:59 AM on 12/06/2011
along with the jobs. No economy, no problem.
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hrpmap
Retired man still active..
12:08 PM on 12/06/2011
The same thing happens here in Washington state.