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Payroll Tax Cut: Harry Reid Says No Christmas Vacation For Obama, Senate Until Measure Passes

Reid Schumer Casey Murray

First Posted: 12/07/11 02:29 PM ET Updated: 12/07/11 02:33 PM ET

WASHINGTON -- The Senate and President Obama will not go on their Christmas vacations until Congress extends the expiring payroll tax cut, Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid vowed Wednesday, outlining an attempt to shame the GOP into backing a middle-class tax break.

"We are not going to go home to vacations," Reid (D-Nev.) said in a news conference on Capitol Hill. "Does this mean embarrassing Republicans, humiliating them? Probably -- as it should."

The 2 percent payroll tax cut expires Jan. 1, and unless Congress passes a new law, that expiration means the average household will pay $1,000 more in taxes next year. Democrats have proposed expanding the cut to 3.1 percent, and paying for it with a 1.9 percent surtax on income above $1 million.

Reid, who spoke to Obama earlier, said the president and Democrats both agreed that the issue was too important to leave undone.

"Michelle and the girls will have a great time in Hawaii; they don't need me there," Reid said, paraphrasing the president's response to the situation.

Republicans have insisted they are in favor of extending the cut for another year, but they have so far produced only one proposal, which failed with just 20 votes in the Senate last week.

Speaking shortly before Reid announced Christmas showdown, House Speaker John Boehner (R-Ohio) said his members were still trying to put a proposal together.

"We're continuing to work on this, and we expect that, before the week's over, we'll talk to our members again," Boehner told reporters after his caucus leadership met. "But I think it's important for us to have these deliberations with our colleagues before we introduce a bill, and we'll do it in just that way."

Some members of the GOP have started floating the idea of a straight rebate aimed at keeping money in pockets.

Boehner sounded like he might favor that approach. "The very first stimulus bill, you know, we wrote checks to the American people. Some would argue that that's a more efficient way of dealing with this," he said. "The concern about the payroll tax cut is this, is that we're taking money out of the Social Security Trust Fund."

Sen. Bob Casey (D-Pa.), the sponsor of the tax cut bill in the Senate, insisted that the break does not take money from Social Security because the bill specifies that the funds be replaced from the general treasury -- and paid for by the tax on the rich. He cited a letter from the chief actuary of Social Security saying the trust fund would be "unaffected by enactment of this provision."

Sen. Chuck Schumer (D-N.Y.), the Democrats' message architect, said that the GOP has been "tied in a knot" over the issue. Indeed, Sen. John McCain (R-Ariz.) conceded the Democrats are winning the debate.

Reid argued that the real problem for the Republicans is that they want to protect the rich, not the middle class.

"We [Democrats] have been for reducing taxes for the middle class -- that's what the stimulus bill was all about. We provided tax cuts for virtually 95 percent of Americans," Reid said. "This is a continuation of what we started back then."

Even if the payroll cut is needed again after next year, he noted that Democrats have the stronger position because under current law the Bush-era tax cuts extended last year expire after 2012. Ultimately, this can provide more than enough offset for a middle class break.

"The taxes for the richest are going to go up. Period," Reid said.

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WASHINGTON -- The Senate and President Obama will not go on their Christmas vacations until Congress extends the expiring payroll tax cut, Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid vowed Wednesday, outlining ...
WASHINGTON -- The Senate and President Obama will not go on their Christmas vacations until Congress extends the expiring payroll tax cut, Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid vowed Wednesday, outlining ...
 
 
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noaxe397 12:41 AM on 12/08/2011
Once again, if the Democrats accept the potential GOP compromise of extending/expanding the payroll tax cut without a tax increase on the wealthy to pay for it, then the Dems will have failed.............Let us be very clear about this..................Then, if that were the situation, the moment in Congress would swing back to the GOP, because they will have once again gotten their way, and doom any chance  Read More...
04:34 PM on 12/21/2011
well Reid you sent your people home with the deal being passed, another lie
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lulubelle1956
11:58 AM on 12/09/2011
There they go pretending to care about ssi again. Mr boehner and GOP/tp, the answer is to lift the ssi cap if you care so much, but of course you are just disingenuous liars who think you are representing a country of fools. the nationis no longer fooled by you, and after one year, knows it made a big mistake installing the GOP/tp in any government position. You have been paid for a year now while you did nothing and only tanked the national credit rating. Lift the ssi cap, pass the payroll cut and unemployment insurance and stop lying.
08:01 AM on 12/09/2011
Really what is fair? Not what the left demands:

The Top 1% pay 36.73% of all income tax
The Top 5% pay 58.66% of all income tax

They are conning America.

So when the left asserts fairness, they are wrong.
08:30 AM on 12/09/2011
Also. This is a nonpertisan web site.
Not grovers, whose site IS accurate nonetheless on this issue.

See this is how the left justifies their lies. They smear someone no one likes even if they are right on the facts. This is how people get conned.
07:59 PM on 12/08/2011
An item in these 2 articles of interest to me is Obama's "Hawaiian Vacation" that you know he will end up going on one way or another. How much is this "vacation" estimated to cost and are we going to foot the bill for this? Interesting how everything is on our backs and these politicians don't have the decency to pay for their own exhorbitant vacations and wild spending sprees. Who is responsible for tabulating the entire cost of vacations, meals, extras, spending on non-federal business, etc.?? I'd really like to read what all these people are taking us for every year...
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Scheherazade Brown
09:25 AM on 12/12/2011
turn the page...the Obama family was going home to Hawaii long before the white house residency. They footed the expense then and there is nothing but common sense that implies that it continues to be their personal business, as it would be likewise for each and every human being on this earth. Spending time with your family is not a vacation, it is tradition. Quit putting the $ on everything. There is a good, positive future ahead if people would just not only do unto others as you want to be done, but think, speak, feel, etc. that would be considered equal and fair...Good morning world
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kimbanyc
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03:57 PM on 12/08/2011
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Get O's latest campaign gimmick finished now...

O is now down to 15 potential days of golf in Hawaii....­have some decency...­..

FIRST 31 MONTHS IN OFFICE.......

OBAMA 61 DAYS OFF

GWB 180 DAYS OFF

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06:58 PM on 12/19/2011
Oh please, where did you get this garbage info? Socialist of America website? Obama has never returned from vacation, not at least his brain.
Nor has every other liberal.
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myplenny
10:50 PM on 12/19/2011
Lawrence Flemming was a dedicated socialist. Know who he is? Likly not.
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kimbanyc
LIBERAL NY DEMOCRAT
03:54 PM on 12/08/2011
It's simple:

Democrats are for job creation and Republican­s are against it.

Democrats are for fixing our infrastruc­ture and Republican­s are against it.

Democrats are for hiring more teachers, policemen and firemen and
Republican­s are against it.

Democrats are for repairing the nation's schools and Republican­s are
against it.

Democrats are for maintainin­g Social Security, Medicare and Medicaid
as public programs and Republican are against it.

Democrats are for reasonable regulation­s on the financial sector and
Republican­s are against it.

Democrats are for separation of church and state, and Republican­s are
against it.

Democrats are for taxing millionair­es and billionair­es and
Republican­s are against it.

Democrats are for a woman's right to choose and Republican­s are against it.

In other words, Democrats are for things that every American wants for
the country, and Republican­s are against everything other Americans
want for the country.

Vote accordingl­y.
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last man standing
and that's just the way it is!
07:14 AM on 12/09/2011
Why you vote Democrat (continued)

7. You voted Democrat because you think illegal aliens have a right to free health care, education, and Social Security benefits.

8. You voted Democrat because you believe that business should not be allowed to make profits for themselves. They need to break even and give the rest away to the government for redistribution as the Democrats see fit.

9. You voted Democrat because you believe liberal judges need to rewrite the Constitution every few days to suit some fringe kooks who would never get their agendas past the voters.


10. You voted Democrat because you think that it's better to pay billions to people who hate us for their oil, but not drill our own because it might upset some endangered beetle or gopher.

11. You voted Democrat because while we live in the greatest, most wonderful country in the world, they were promised "HOPE AND CHANGE".

12. You voted Democrat because their head is so firmly planted up their a*s it's unlikely that they will ever have another point of view.
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kimbanyc
LIBERAL NY DEMOCRAT
07:39 AM on 12/09/2011
there isn't a gop/teapar­ty candidate that believes Americans should
all have access to healthcare
there isn't a gop/teapar­­­­ty candidate that believes in a woman's right
to choose.
there isn't a gop/teapar­­­­ty candidate that believes that the rich and
corporatio­­­­ns should pay their fair share of taxes.
there isn't a gop/teapar­­­­ty candidate that is working for jobs in this
country (no job bills)
there is no gop/teapar­­­­ty candidate that believes in working on
immigratio­­­­n in any way but prison or deportatio­­­­n.
there isn't a gop/teapar­­­­ty candidate that believes in equal rights
for you no matter your race, gender or sexual orientatio­­­­n.
there isn't a gop/tea party candidate that believes in protecting our
workplace (factories­­­­, mines, etc.) or our environmen­­­­t (water, air)
or our food and medicine.
there isn't a gop/teapar­­ty candidate that isn't
praisingth­­edeathpen­a­lty as domestic policy.
there isn't a gop/teapar­­ty candidate willing to stand up for voter's
rights and stop the gop voter suppressio­­nattacks
why would anyone in their right mind vote gop?
08:04 AM on 12/09/2011
Nonsense. The Dems have destroyed more jobs than they hace created. Look at all the oil and gas, wall street layoffs, the NLRB and Boeing, the toyota plant shutdowns. These regulations and litigations have destryed more net jobs than Obama has created.
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kimbanyc
LIBERAL NY DEMOCRAT
08:08 AM on 12/09/2011
that's just silly

learn some facts

stop with the clusterfox talking points
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kimbanyc
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05:17 PM on 12/09/2011
VERY WEAK
03:27 PM on 12/08/2011
Show the GOP YOUR Vote in 2012!
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DarkandStormyNight
Got moral compass?
01:36 PM on 12/08/2011
Fellar
It's not my fault you're simple
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Fellar
It's not my fault you're simple
01:40 PM on 12/08/2011
you couldn't afford me sweetie.
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DarkandStormyNight
Got moral compass?
01:49 PM on 12/08/2011
Who the he11 do you think you're talking to, HUH? Flagged.
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kimbanyc
LIBERAL NY DEMOCRAT
03:54 PM on 12/08/2011
you got it

WILL NOT FEED
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DarkandStormyNight
Got moral compass?
04:24 PM on 12/08/2011
I really do have to constantly remind myself this "that one" was ratherstalkish after my firstreply.
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DarkandStormyNight
Got moral compass?
04:24 PM on 12/08/2011
BTW, what does Tony mean? LOL!
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Fellar
It's not my fault you're simple
01:17 PM on 12/08/2011
kathy001
Don't bogart that duck .

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If you knew anything about corporate finances you'd know that capital gains are a significan­t part of them. You just keep showing your ignorance
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so corporations raise "significant" portions of their capital through the sale of their vast stores of appreciated assets? well I wasn't aware of that, can you provide some examples?

now, do have any concept of how a capital gain is taxed within a corporation? how do you believe the bush tax cuts affected that?
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what0now0toons
01:14 PM on 12/08/2011
The GOP is making it perfectly clear who they want to get tax cuts, and it certainly is not the hard working people of America! My latest
cartoon is about the middle class tax cuts.
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12:51 PM on 12/08/2011
Asking for a tiny 2-percent on our emerging oligarchy is a humiliating admission of our submission as a Congress and people. The taxes demanded must reflect an emergency of a war economy given our flirtation with bankruptcy, massive joblessness and deindustrialization. We must once again think big.
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Liberalstake
12:42 PM on 12/08/2011
Kathy, rest assured if I was a minimum wager I would be on your side of the fence screaming at everyone that was more successful than myself. I would have pursued a degree in Art History instead of the MS in Radiation Physics and BS in Electrical Engineering that I have if I wanted to call myself a VICTIM of something like you liberals do.
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Whitney Wonders
12:51 PM on 12/08/2011
I'm a liberal and I have a degree in Accounting and make more than minimum wage, but still care about others. That's the difference between liberals and conservatives.
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Fellar
It's not my fault you're simple
12:54 PM on 12/08/2011
liberals use silly emotion based talking points?

well that is one of many differences.
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Fellar
It's not my fault you're simple
12:52 PM on 12/08/2011
It’s a hard life gorging from the trough while screaming at those of us that fill the trough to give more.
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DarkandStormyNight
Got moral compass?
01:33 PM on 12/08/2011
Read much?
12:31 PM on 12/08/2011
...

Get O's latest campaign gimmick finished now...

O is now down to 15 potential days of golf in Hawaii....have some decency.....
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Liberalstake
12:21 PM on 12/08/2011
Kathy aka Keiths Parrot, can you tell me who it was during C/intons reign that made those jobs possible? Could it have been the Internet Bubble? What about Trent and Newt passing a balanced budget amendment? Please tell us what your cartoon woman Keith tells you to think about that? Don't you find it ironic that MSNBC replaced Keith with a better man? Rachel
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Fellar
It's not my fault you're simple
12:32 PM on 12/08/2011
of course the transformation of our economy didn't have anything to do with it. why clinton hired each and everyone of those people himself.
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Fellar
It's not my fault you're simple
12:36 PM on 12/08/2011
one could make the argument that much of clintons employment numbers can be attributed to the largest capital gains rate reduction in history (yes progressives it was a larger reduction than bush's)

lower capital gains rates do have quite the impact on raising capital.
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Liberalstake
12:12 PM on 12/08/2011
Kathy, I see you haven't responded to why you make less money now than you did in 2002. What held you back? I have never had a year in my life that I made less money than the previous year. Too many needs and not enough ability is the only probable cause for your failure. Why are you blaming others for your shortcomings?
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kathy001
Don't bogart that duck
12:27 PM on 12/08/2011
Here you go, sport.

In 2002, after Hurricanes Katrina and Rita wiped out my company's operations in a large part of my division, I was laid off, along with lots of other people. Employment opportunies in the Dallas/Ft. Worth area were already down at that time and wages went down as a result. After almost 2 years of looking for employment at my usual salary - working temp jobs to keep off the unemployement roles and to keep my mortgage paid, I took a job at a lower wage.

This is a common story in many areas. I'm not ashamed. I have not failed. I have always supported myself - was fortunate enough to be able to keep enough money coming in so that I did not have to collect unemployment and have stayed at this new job for almost 5 years.

Employment has not gone back up in this area - in fact, it has gotten worse. Underemployment is the norm. The fact that I have a steady job, a paycheck that I can count on and benefits, like health insurance, is a success story.

The fact that you can't respond to anything else I said, and have to continue to try and pursue a personal attack says everything about you that I need to know. You're a minimum wage nobody, parked in front of Faux News at every opportunity, lurking around threads like this trying to make yourself feel like a bigshot.
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Dee Sexton
04:53 PM on 12/08/2011
You are saying that people that make minimum wage are not people! You seem to be proud of your cold hardy fellings to low income people. I'm retired with a good income and health benefit, but I still have respect for the unfortunate that do not .
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pickles n pops
Restore pre-1981 income and inheritance tax rates
11:51 PM on 12/10/2011
Nicely managed.