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Alabama Immigration Law: Republican Leaders Having Second Thoughts

Alabama Immigration Law Republicans

Posted: 12/08/11 03:05 PM ET

By PHILLIP RAWLS, ASSOCIATED PRESS

MONTGOMERY, Ala. -- Alabama Republicans who pushed through the nation's toughest law against undocumented immigrants are having second thoughts amid a backlash from big business, fueled by the embarrassing traffic stops of two foreign employees tied to the state's prized Honda and Mercedes plants.

The Republican attorney general is calling for some of the strictest parts of it to be repealed.

Some Republican lawmakers say they now want to make changes in the law that was pushed quickly through the legislature.

Gov. Robert Bentley, who signed the law, said he's contacting foreign executives to tell them they and their companies are still welcome in Alabama.

"We are not anti-foreign companies. We are very pro-foreign companies," he said.

Luther Strange, the attorney general who's defending the law in court, this week recommended repealing sections that make it a crime for an undocumented immigrant to fail to carry registration documents and that require public schools to collect information on the immigration status of students. Both sections have been put on hold temporarily by a federal court.

Two foreign workers for Honda and Mercedes were recently stopped by police for failing to carry proof of legal residency. The cases were quickly dropped, but not without lots of international attention that Alabama officials didn't want.

One of the groups challenging the law in court said the auto workers' cases turned public opinion.

"Suddenly the reality of what the state has done hit people in the face," said Richard Cohen, president of the Southern Poverty Law Center.

Before 2011, Republicans tried repeatedly to pass an immigration law but were always stopped by the dominant Democrats. That changed when Alabama voters elected a Republican legislative super majority – the first since Reconstruction. The result was a law described by critics and supporters as the toughest and most comprehensive in the nation.

It requires a check of legal residency when conducting everyday transactions such as buying a car license, enrolling a child in school, getting a job or renewing a business license. After the U.S. Justice Department and other groups challenged the law, the federal courts put some portions on hold, but major provisions took effect in late September.

Alabama suddenly found itself at the center of the nation's immigration debate, ahead of other states with tough laws, including Arizona, Georgia and South Carolina.

Within Alabama, much of the debate is within the business community that helped fund Republicans' new strength.

The Birmingham Business Alliance this week called for revisions in the law, expressing worry that it's tainting Alabama's image around the world. The group also said complying with the law is a burden for businesses and local governments, but did not offer specific changes.

James T. McManus, chairman of the Alliance and CEO of one of the state's largest businesses, the Energen Corp., said revisions "are needed to ensure that momentum remains strong in our competitive economic development efforts."

In Thomasville, a town of 4,700 about 80 miles southwest of Montgomery, Mayor Sheldon Day worries about recruiting industries.

He said about 25 foreign companies have visited the town to consider possible plant sites since Thomasville recruited a Canadian steel company in July 2010.

"Up until a few months ago, nobody raised the immigration issue," he said. But in the last few months, it's been brought up regularly. Day suspects competing states are portraying Alabama as hostile to foreigners even though he says that is not the truth. Based on the questions he gets from industrial prospects, he also believes competing states are recounting stories from Alabama's civil rights past.

"It's bringing back old images from 40 or 50 year ago," he said.

The governor says he's declined many national TV interviews about the law because he doesn't want to fuel comparisons with what he sees as Alabama's long gone past. "It's going to take us a long time to outlive those stereotypes that are out there among people that Alabama is living in the `50s and `60s," Bentley said.

The Republican sponsors of the immigration legislation promoted it as a jobs bill that would run off undocumented immigrants and open up employment for legal residents. That was an easy political sale in a state suffering from nearly 10 percent unemployment. Even some Democrats voted for the law.

Since the law took effect, Alabama's unemployment rate has dropped a half percentage point. Economists and state officials who compile the statistics say it's too early to say whether to credit the immigration law.

But one of the sponsors, Republican Sen. Scott Beason of Gardendale, said neighboring states without a similar law haven't seen the same drop. "There is nothing else to attribute it to," he said.

If there has been any damage, he said it's the fault of inaccurate portrayals in the news media. He said the media ought to be reporting: "This law establishes a safer, more secure environment for people to come here and invest their money."

Republican House Speaker Mike Hubbard of Auburn said no industrial recruiters have complained to him about the law, and he will only support "tweaks" that make it more effective without weakening it.

Some Democratic Party leaders have called for repeal, but the party is now so weak in Alabama that the real debate is among Republicans.

The governor says the law is "very complicated" and needs to be simplified. He hasn't recommended any specifics, but he says Alabama won't abandon its goal of ensuring that only legal residents get jobs.

Strange, the attorney general, says his recommended changes "don't weaken the law, they just make it easier to defend."

Beason, however, said Strange's proposals would weaken the law by repealing two sections that allow private citizens to sue state and local officials to enforce it. Beason said that's needed because some officials are already saying they won't follow the law.

Other Republicans say the law is causing unnecessary problems for legal residents. Senate Republican Whip Gerald Dial of Lineville said legislators hear complaints from people about digging out documents to prove their legal residency when renewing professional licenses and buying car tags.

"I made some mistakes in voting for this bill, and I want to step up and fix them," he said.

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By PHILLIP RAWLS, ASSOCIATED PRESS MONTGOMERY, Ala. -- Alabama Republicans who pushed through the nation's toughest law against undocumented immigrants are having second thoughts amid a backlash fr...
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Sam D man
I'm not always right but I'm not always wrong.
09:38 AM on 12/12/2011
To pass a legislative bill of that nature in Alabama is like having Ku Kux Klan day every day of the year.
12:25 AM on 12/10/2011
These laws are not anti illegal immigrants, they are anti "Different" legal or not. In fact what they are doing is making it undesirable to live in Alabam if your name is not John Smith and you look ethnic anything. I bet not one perfect alabama accent speaking pick up truck driving resident of Alabam will be asked for proof of citizenship if they are pulled over. Tell me why would any person that doesnt fir the above description choose to live in Alabam if at any time they can be treated as second rate citizens? These laws offer the cover of unemployment to deep rooted republican bigotry.
05:52 PM on 12/09/2011
I am glad to see the New Era of McCarthyism is starting to end. First AZ author of their Immigration law was recalled in November, 2011. The AZ Governor is being threatened with another recall vote in 2012. Now Alabama is seeing that these laws can negatively impact their state. The Alabama Legislature thinks is is OK to discriminate, as long as you don't take away the tax revenues that these foreign companies' bring into Alabama. Now Alabama GOP has to rethink their bigotry. Joseph McCarthy is rolling over in his grave. May he never rest in peace.
05:36 PM on 12/09/2011
When I was a Kid during the 1960’s, they used to show old WWII movies on TV. When the scary officials with thick accents asked Europeans for their "PAPERS?" the Hollywood message suggested that this practice is un-American. Well some 50 years later, Americans live in fear of everything and maybe showing papers to authorities should be acceptable practice. But if that is true, everyone should have to prove they are American Citizens. Not just Hispanic or other foreign looking people (whatever that means). Showing your papers may become the new American Tradition and define who we are, but the rule should apply to everyone or no one. We are a melting pot society with many loyal foreigners living within our borders. The US Congress doesn't have the guts to tackle a new Immigration law. They know the issue is too volatile. “They are too busy trying to keep their jobs to do their jobsâ€. That is what I call Un-American. So if you really want other people to show their papers, make sure you have yours with you at all times. Because you know, you kind of look foreign to me. Where did you say you were from?
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hoochie-coochie
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05:17 PM on 12/09/2011
Dagnabbit. It ain't our fault Japeeeeneeese people look like Meskins.
08:32 PM on 12/08/2011
The biggest lie in this issue is the one that goes "we like legal immigrants!" The reality is that if police, government employees, landlords and bureaucrats stop "foreign looking persons" to demand proof of legality, deny the transaction or arrest the LEGAL immigrants that don't have their papers on them and you will quickly see the fallacy of the lie.

The stop alone is an imposition, asking for proof of immigration will generate anger on the part of citizens misidentified and most importantly the arrest of legals will always be seen as an outrage when adequate proof is later provided.

Legal immigrants will quickly find that the hate and suspicion that their foreign appearance generates will cause them to realize that they are just as unwelcome as the illegal.

If you believe in the Alabama law ask yourself if being stopped, asked for documents or arrested wouldn't make you believe that you were not welcome? Hate the foreign looking and sounding person that is illegal and you will prove to the legal alien and funny sounding outsider (citizen) that they are not welcome.
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dtairtime
It is what it is
09:40 PM on 12/08/2011
Hmmm....I missed the part of the law that allow LEO's to target foreign looking people.

I believe the 4th amendment still applies, does it not. If your theory were correct we would have already seen a surge of lawsuits - successful lawsuits. Yet crickets is all we hear. Besides the baseless accusations of course.
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Sebastin Emmanuel Mata
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12:25 AM on 12/09/2011
Did you even read the article?
07:33 AM on 12/09/2011
What do you think would give the Police Officer reason to believe that some one is an suspected illegal alien? What no successful law suits? The law was just implemented and targets the poor. Yet there are many law suits by civil rights organizations. Some that have stopped the worst parts of the law.

It is also important to know that this law gives the authorization to demand papers and deny services to many more agencies other than police. It even requires landlords to make the decision if some one is legal. Think landlords would be using the "foreign looking" standard?
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azlegalcitizen
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08:10 PM on 12/08/2011
First the author blares 'GOP' wants to repeal immigration law, then denotes that whoa it is the dems not the repbubs. The entire population has been and is still in favor by 75 % so perhaps it might behoove the author to be fair and interview some regular citizens and quit misleading the readers of huff.
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TechYes
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08:37 AM on 12/09/2011
Try again, Sparky. The Luthor Strange, the REPUBLICAN attorney general of Alabama, is calling for repeal of the strictest parts of the law. Within Alabama, the business community, which helped fund the TeaOP takeover of the legislature, is now calling for revisions to the law because, as the Birminham Business Alliance put it, "complying with the law is a burden for businesses" and "it's tainting Alabama's image around the world."
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azlegalcitizen
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08:43 PM on 12/12/2011
yOU DIDN'T GET THE MEMO THAT THE UNEMPLOYMENT IS DOWN 3 %, OVER 900 AL AMERICAN CITIZENS NOW HAVE JOBS THAT WERE FORMALLY HELD BY ILLEGALS... THE GENERAL POPULATION OF AL IS 75 % IN FAVOR OF THE BILL. THE A G CAN TRY AND REVERT TO THE OLD GENEROSITY TOWARD THE ILLEGALS BUT THE VOTING CITIZENS WILL PROBABLY REVOLT. STATE POPULATION OF CITIZENS WANT THEIR STATE AND COURTY BACK. THEY DO NOT WISH TO BE INVADED BY GANGS, THROES OF KIDS TO EDUCATE AT OUR EXPENSE, HOSPITALS BEING BANKRUPTED BY THE ILLEGALS GETTING FREE, I SAID FREE CARE WHILE AMERICANS CAN AFFOR DECENT MED CARE. AL WILL NOT AND I REPEAT NOT REPEAL THIS LAW.
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spytheweb
07:16 PM on 12/08/2011
"backlash from big business, fueled by the embarrassing traffic stops of two foreign employees tied to the state's prized Honda and Mercedes plants."

This is BS no one is rethinking the law. You got a few weak knee people in the government who do not want to enforce the law, so what? What do the voters say? I bet  big business is paying these guys off. Alabama stay strong, America is with you.
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TechYes
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08:42 AM on 12/09/2011
Yes, they are. The governor [republican], attorney general [republican], members of the business community, large and small [republican supporters and donors] and TeaOP members of the legislature are calling for repeal of all or part of the law, and Dems who voted for it are now calling for complete repeal. Chickens meet roost.
04:15 PM on 12/08/2011
Republican's first big act since gaining a super-majority and they screw it up. That's what happens when checks-and-balances aren't in place.
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04:12 PM on 12/08/2011
Not to mention the crops that rotted in the fields because there were no farm workers to pick them. Even legals who have green cards and American born Hispanics are avoiding the state because they know that they will be constantly hassled. No Anglos, despite what the GOP says about illegals taking "Americans" jobs, are applying to work in the fields. This got so bad that Alabama even tried convict labor but the cons made a mess of things.

Now, apparently, Germans had better stay away, no matter who they are.
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spytheweb
07:20 PM on 12/08/2011
Germany and Japan have laws where you are picked up off the street and deported, they understand.

BTW, the Japanese profile people.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Uz6_tybfEY
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dtairtime
It is what it is
09:44 PM on 12/08/2011
So are you in favor of large corporate farms abusing workers?

That is the only logical conclusion from your post.

The farmers COULD have used the unlimited ag worker visa program. They didn't.
The farmers didn't because they would have to treat them fairly, follow OSHA rules, pay them fairly, house them and pay taxes. Taxes that are desperately needed by out country.

They COULD have gotten the exact same workers for the most part. They didn't because they listened to people like you, the chamber of commerce and the DOJ when you told them you would fight for their ability to abuse workers. Sorry but you lost.
ALABAMALEFTIST
What is to be done?
04:11 PM on 12/08/2011
The law was designed to run undocumented Hispanoc people out of the state. The Republicans compaigned on that platform and spent alot of Mississippi Indain money getting that messge out. They knew they would have to have the "toughest law in the nation". Nothing else would get them th publicity they sought. The problem is that they couldn't pass a law which included profiling, so the provisions had to apply to the entire population. Thids meant that it applied to German and Japanese business men here to exploit our low wage, non-union workers, the average citizen from Albertville standing in line to renew his car tag and to anyone who entered into a contract with anyone else. The Republicans are learning that bigotry can be more complicated and costly than they thought. It is not at all as easy as it was for Bull Connor.
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lioness39
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05:58 PM on 12/08/2011
I thought most of the Choctaw money was spent banning casino gambling in this state. I guess the leftovers went to this law. Alabama is a bastion of bigotry.
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Tich Tran
04:07 PM on 12/08/2011
The law may not be perfect but it will most likely stay on the book. If mexico don't want illegal then neither should we.
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Carl E Cook
03:48 PM on 12/08/2011
german, japanese automaker employees?? so, illegal immigration laws have to be repealed because of them?................. they're just another form of invader..............no one would have wanted a japanese or german car plant anywhere in the usa in 1946......and as far as i'm concerned, the japanese and germans are our economic enemies....it may be unlikely we will fight another "bullet" war with either country, but we are currently embroiled in an economic war with them........there will never be a honda or mercedes in my garage......i had uncles who fought in the pacific, and europe......i would never dishonor their sacrifices.

bullet war with either country, but we are in an economic war, and i would never have a honda or mercedes in my garage
03:21 PM on 12/08/2011
"It's going to take us a long time to outlive those stereotypes that are out there among people that Alabama is living in the `50s and `60s," Bentley said.

It will take even longer with leaders that the people have now empowered. This is nothing new to progressives that made the mistake of remaining in, or moving to Alabama. I am one of those "lucky" enough to leave and see that things can be much better and equitable, although not perfect.