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Santa Claus At Christmas: Yes Or No? (POLL)

Santa Claus Christmas

First Posted: 12/08/11 10:13 PM ET Updated: 12/08/11 10:13 PM ET

By Adelle M. Banks
Religion News Service

(RNS) When the Rev. John McCausland crafted his Christmas Eve sermon at his Episcopal church in Weare, N.H., he always followed a basic formula.

There had to be a brother and a sister in the story. Jesus and the holy family played a prominent role. And there was always an appearance from Santa Claus.

"If we never mention Santa Claus, then you create a parallel universe," said McCausland, who retired in June. "What I try to do in this story is to tie the two together, but not make Santa Claus primary."

McCausland kept the Jesus-and-Santa story tradition for 14 years at Holy Cross Episcopal Church. Children would carry the figures to the creche display and sit for McCausland's story, in which Santa often joins in the adoration of the Christ child.

Just where to place the jolly elf in the original Christmas story can be a perennial dilemma for both parents and pastors. This year, two new products draw on educating kids about the origins of Santa, or inspiring them to become Santas themselves.

Phil Vischer, creator of the popular VeggieTales characters, has launched a DVD that answers the question, "Why Do We Call it Christmas?" The video, hosted by Vischer and featuring puppets and animation, spends 45 minutes detailing the origins of Christmas traditions, including Santa Claus.

One puppet on the DVD credits American TV shows and movies that "mushed up Christmas" by melding stories of St. Nicholas and the Nativity. "How did this guy become such a big part of Jesus' birthday party?" Vischer asks as the video opens.

In an interview, he said he hopes to diffuse tensions between Christian parents who want nothing to do with Santa and those who think there's room for both Jesus and Santa.

"We have the ability to get kind of paranoid," Vischer said. "I think it's easy for some Christians to say there's got to be some plot, there's some evil organization, that is foisting Santa upon us to steal Jesus."

Vischer's video trip back through history details the celebrations of Christ's Mass (which became Christmas) to mark Jesus' birth, and the Feast of St. Nicholas that recalls the giving saint who helped poor children.

"I think it would be awesome if Christian parents could bring back a more overt celebration of St. Nicholas because, effectively, you can have your Santa and Jesus, too," Vischer said.

Kelly Moss, author of the new book "The Santa Club," is doing just that by encouraging children to join "millions of Santa Clauses" around the world in being generous givers modeled after St. Nicholas, who she considers the first Santa as well as a follower of Jesus.

Her book was inspired by the answer her mother-in-law gave to her older son, Jonathan, when she and her husband were flummoxed about how to handle his inquiry about Santa. He stayed up that night with his grandmother and helped place gifts for his younger brother, Jameson, under the Christmas tree.

"The following year, when Jameson asked (about Santa), Jonathan said, 'I'll handle this, Mom,' and he welcomed him into The Santa Club," Moss recalled of her sons, now 22 and 20.

Others make only one choice, focusing on Jesus rather than Santa.

Michael Chanley, the former parenting minister at Southeast Christian Church in Louisville, Ky., said he stuck to the Bible and never intentionally taught about Santa.

"When children have asked, as they always do, I simply ask them what they believe. Regardless of what they say, my response is, basically, the same," said Chanley, now the executive director of the International Network of Children's Ministry.

"I tell them Christmas is a celebration of the birth of Christ. Then, I share with them the story of the real Santa Claus, St. Nicholas, and how his generosity inspired many of our traditions."

Gerry Bowler, author of the 2005 book, "Santa Claus: A Biography," said discomfort with Santa has been around for centuries, even as some opposition has waned, with an image of Santa kneeling at the creche that's become popular in recent years.

"The warming really took place about 150 years ago and there've been frequent outbursts of resistance and then a gradual accommodation," he said.

Still, there are a range of holdouts, from Jehovah's Witnesses who don't celebrate any birthdays, to the Westboro Baptist Church in Topeka, Kan., which changed the lyrics of "Santa Claus is Coming to Town" to "Santa Claus Will Take You to Hell."

"You'll find a rationalist streak that says I must not tell my kid a lie: If this is a lie then when I tell them about Jesus, well, that's just like Santa," adds Bowler, who teaches a course on the social history of Christmas at the University of Manitoba in Canada.

But McCausland, the newly retired New Hampshire vicar, doesn't buy it. The father of two grown daughters and grandfather of two can't recall a child who concluded Jesus didn't exist if Santa does not.

"I think literal grown-ups worry about that," he said.

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What is the place of Santa at Christmas?

Really important!

Takes away the meaning of Christmas

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09:15 PM on 12/15/2011
My pastor always let new members know early, that the Christmas Message will not have Santa. Because it is Christ that enables us to do all things and your parents and relatives and friends are Santa.
02:25 PM on 12/15/2011
I just created my very own picture at Santa On Camera and inserted Santa in my home! My kids will go crazy Christmas morning!
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It was a blast! Almost 50 poses too.
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zippythedude
On 07/20/2005, Canada legalized gay marriage
10:13 PM on 12/14/2011
Perhaps all these concerned pastors should decide whether Christmas should be celebrated at what is basically the winter solstice, which is in fact a pagan day of significance that Christians took over. Ditto for Christmas trees and candles, which are rooted in pagan traditions. Ditto for Easter, which is derived from Ostera, the godess of fertility. Hence the quaint egg hunts and rabbits you see at all those lovely Christian church functions. Fail.
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02:44 PM on 12/14/2011
Santa Claus is god for beginners.
Of course he's rarely as mean as the other guy so you don’t want to start the kid off right away and scare him too much. Only later are kiddies ready for learning about the invisible Superman upstairs. First you learn that he loves you like daddy does now and Santa used too. But unlike Santa this guy gets very upset if you don’t believe in him and do all the things your particular brand of the superstition business claims he wants. People believe this because it says so in the superstition business manual. Its an old tradition. Somewhat older than Santa.

Unlike Santa this mystical daddy will only do really nice things for you after you’re dead. That is, provided you obey some guy who says that he understands exactly what the manual means.”
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TYRANNASAURUS
UGH!....people don't taste good.
10:46 AM on 12/14/2011
Parents And Pastors Wrestle With The Place Of Santa At Christmas......

Santa is to children (presents if you've been good) what god is to grown ups ( going to heaven if you've been good).... the old controlled behavior system created by religious leaders.
03:11 PM on 12/13/2011
The bishop (never made a saint) Nicholas story was just an attempt by some Christians to turn a pagan story into a Christian one. Nicholas was supposedly from Anatolia. When have there ever been raindeer in Anatolia? The Santa Claus/St. Nicholas story was just another attempt to subvert the Joulupukki legend. How long before we see Santa Claus delivering the gold, frankincense, and myrrh as Xmas presents in the nativity scenes?
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davearnold007
The Talker They Lie, The Poorer I Get
01:07 PM on 12/12/2011
We need Santa.

He takes all the fire and brimstone out of Xmas.

He also pimps for Hallmark, and every shopping mall, brick and mortar or online.

He is the comic relief and provides the somatic effect necessary to dull the senses while we shell out diminishing cash for 'presents' during a time of year we feel compelled to go along with the charade.

Santa allows us to give, grudgingly, to people we really wouldn't give stuff to unless, in the background, there was a secular task master making us go along with a religious tradition mashed up with paegan dressings all done in the spirit of...

...pumping up the GDP.

It is American as not taxing the rich proportionately to their income.
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BeeJayCeee
I still loathe Thatcher
04:33 AM on 12/12/2011
There's far more evidence for the existence of Santa than their is for the Jesus of the bible. Keep the fictional Christ out of Christmas!
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Sirlarek
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01:35 AM on 12/12/2011
I'm with the Puritans on this one....the celebration of the Birth of Jesus is a form of Idolatry. To the public stocks we go!

Religious exposure in public is completely Idolatrous in my mind and totally unacceptable. Dickens was very careful to not bring the story of the birth of Jesus into what has become the inspiration for the modern Christmas. It used to be nothing more than a work day.
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tshields424
The unexamined life is not worth living.
10:55 PM on 12/11/2011
Jesus is Santa for adults.
09:05 PM on 12/11/2011
Live & Let Live Let Santa Live even though he's a Lie... thats what makes the world go round.
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FaithIsIgnorance
God is fiction.
04:05 PM on 12/11/2011
Seriously. People wrestle with this.

When it comes to things of lesser importance, you know, like... the economy, the war... these are the same people who just vote for whoever Fox news tells them to.

But *this* they wrestle with.

"You'll find a rationalist streak that says I must not tell my kid a lie: If this is a lie then when I tell them about Jesus, well, that's just like Santa,"

Hysterical. Also sad.
08:13 PM on 12/11/2011
I know you thought you were being profound but....it didn't work.
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bbriani3842
400+ yrs of science & STILL no evidence for a god
10:05 AM on 12/11/2011
I would like to propose a fourth selection:

"It doesn't really phuquing matter"
07:31 AM on 12/12/2011
You read my mind!
08:17 AM on 12/11/2011
Seriously? This is an actual issue? I don't whether to laugh or cry at the stupidity some people in this country are exhibiting. I mean, isn't it just hilarious how this has become an issue when the two symbols use to work in harmony with each other for decades upon decades without a peep. I actually believe there are people today who's main function in life is to sit around and create problems where none exist, and these people need to get a life.
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eddy joe
welcome to the machine
07:45 AM on 12/11/2011
America has become a nation of " I'm right, and everyone else is wrong." We are pathetic.
07:56 AM on 12/11/2011
i think you're right on the money there!