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Ron Paul Proposes Interesting Salary For Himself As President

By ALLEN G. BREED   12/10/11 10:11 AM ET  AP

GREENVILLE, N.C. -- Long before he discovered Friedrich Hayek and other free-market economists, Ron Paul got a lesson in sound money from his oldest brother, Bill.

It was the height of World War II, and the Paul boys were laying aside quarters from their Pittsburgh Press routes and pooling pennies earned from pulling dirty milk bottles off the line at the family dairy to buy war bonds. One day, Ronnie suggested what was, in retrospect, a rather Keynesian solution: "Why doesn't the government just PRINT this money?"

"Well," Bill responded, "then the money wouldn't have any value."

Bill was 10. Ron was about 7.

Washington bureaucrats, Paul says now, "would like it to be complicated, and that we have to accept this complex monetary system of the Federal Reserve. But it's no more complicated than two little kids talking ..."

It's not complicated, he insists. These are the themes he has been addressing, consistently, since he entered politics in 1974, over the course of 12 terms in Congress, through his third bid for the White House: Free markets are good. The Federal Reserve is evil. The gold standard should be restored. Government is the cause, not the cure, of the nation's troubles.

"If it tries to make us virtuous and it tries to make us better people and fairer people and make us more generous and make sure that nobody's richer than the other person, redistribute your wealth, the ONLY way they can do that is the undermining of our personal liberties," Paul told a raucous crowd of several hundred supporters during a recent "Restore Liberty Rally" at the Greenville Convention Center.

"And that isn't the purpose of government. The purpose of government is exactly the opposite. The purpose of government is to protect our liberties."

At 76, this former obstetrician has seven years on the oldest man ever to take office as president, Ronald Reagan. But where Reagan was the genial conservative, Paul is an evangelical libertarian – a prophet who preaches that the United States is flat broke, foundering under the too-great weight of a bloated bureaucracy and its imperial – albeit generally well-intentioned – foreign interventionism.

This is a man who would eliminate five of the 15 cabinet-level departments (Commerce, Education, Energy, Housing and Urban Development, and Interior – he has no problem reciting them all); recall American troops from all foreign lands, not just war zones; repeal the 16th Amendment, which created the federal income tax; reduce his own presidential salary from $400,000 to $39,336 – the median salary of an American worker.

These are not the planks of a mainstream candidate's platform. But Paul rolls along, attracting a hard-core following and collecting millions in contributions.

How does he do it?

Perhaps it is not so complicated: He applies the lessons learned in a life that stretches back to the Depression.

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Paul's grandfather, Casper, fled the economic wreckage of post-World War I Germany and went to work in the Pittsburgh steel mills at age 14. Ron Paul grew up on stories about rampant inflation and the dangers of paper currency.

"I remember my grandmother wanting to hang onto some property my dad thought she should sell," he says. "And she said, `No. The money might go bad.'"

Casper eventually saved up enough to buy some land outside the city. He started a small vegetable and chicken farm, then opened a dairy, which his sons eventually took over and relocated to nearby Carnegie. Ron Paul's first job was making sure no dirty bottles made it to the filling crates. He was paid a penny per bottle; when they were old enough, the Paul boys – all five of whom shared one bedroom – took over the summer milk routes to give the drivers some time off.

His brother Jerry says Ronnie was no goodie two-shoes. In fact, he was kicked out of school – twice. The first time was for allegedly bribing a grade school chum "two bits" to throw a baseball through a window. The second was for bringing firecrackers to Dormont High – and that time he ratted on himself.

"He couldn't stand the principals who were dictatorial," Jerry says. "He would call them fascists."

Still, he was elected president of the student council at Dormont and won the school's service award three years running. But he really excelled at track. His junior year, Paul placed first in the state in the 220-yard dash, second in the 440 and third in the 100. Pennsylvania State University offered him a full athletic scholarship.

When he tore the cartilage in his right knee playing touch football that summer, Penn State was still willing to take a chance on him. But Paul decided he couldn't accept in good conscience. "I was not confident I could meet the standards of honoring that scholarship," he says.

Instead, he chose Gettysburg College, a small Lutheran school near the famous battlefield. Paul paid his own way, using money earned from his job running the local student coffee shop, The Bullet Hole, and washing dishes at the Lambda Chi Alpha fraternity house. In his senior year, he married Carolyn Wells, who had first noticed him when a friend pointed out the lanky upperclassman running around the track at Dormont.

Paul went on to attend Duke University School of Medicine in Durham, N.C. During his second year of residency in Detroit, Paul got a letter from the Selective Service. He could be drafted into the Army as a "buck private," or join as a physician and receive an officer's commission.

"I volunteered immediately," he says, chuckling.

Paul served two years in the Air Force as a flight surgeon and three more in the Air National Guard. While he did not see any action, he says he's seen enough of war's aftermath to convince him "the way we go to war so often is the reason that we have difficulty getting out of war.

"My firm belief is that the founders were absolutely correct in going to war very, very cautiously, very, very rarely," he told the Greenville crowd. "And NOT by one individual deciding."

During his residency, Paul found time for some light reading: "The Road to Serfdom" by the free-market economist Friedrich Hayek. It was an epiphany. In short order, he devoured the works of Ayn Rand and Ludwig von Mises, the dean of Austrian school of laissez-faire economics.

Paul had been stationed at Kelly Air Force Base in San Antonio. When his service was up in 1968, he stayed on in Texas, eventually taking over the practice of the only obstetrician-gynecologist in tiny Lake Jackson, south of Houston. It was a busy office; often, Paul would deliver four babies in a single night, and in the course of his career, he estimates he brought more than 4,000 babies into the world.

There was minor shock in the office when Paul informed the staff they would no longer participate in the federal Medicaid or Medicare programs.

"People will pay as they can," scrub nurse Donna White, who later married her boss's youngest brother, recalls the doctor saying. "And if they can't, that's fine."

One family, she says, paid him in fresh-caught shrimp.

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Paul can remember the date when he decided to enter politics. It was Aug. 15, 1971, the day President Richard Nixon decoupled the U.S. dollar from the nation's gold reserves.

"After that day, all money would be political money rather than money of real value," he told a writer from Texas Monthly. "I was astounded."

Paul lost his first congressional race in 1974 but won a special election two years later to fill the incumbent's unexpired term. Several months later, he lost the general election to Democrat Robert Gammage by fewer than 300 votes.

Paul defeated Gammage in 1978 and won back-to-back re-elections. His pledge to "never vote for legislation unless the proposed measure is expressly authorized by the Constitution" earned him a nickname: Dr. No.

He refused to vote for any tax increase or any budget that was not balanced, and eschewed most "pork barrel" projects for his district. He even voted against awarding Congressional Gold Medals to Mother Teresa, Nancy and Ronald Reagan, and civil rights icon Rosa Parks – though he suggested his colleagues "each put in 100 bucks" to pay for the $30,000 cost of a medal for Parks.

He has refused to enroll in the House pension program, saying it would be "hypocritical and immoral" to accept a benefit unavailable to the taxpayers who fund it. He also discouraged his five children – including the future Kentucky U.S. senator and tea party darling Rand Paul – from applying for government-backed student loans.

In 1981, Dr. No teamed up with "Senator No" (North Carolina's Jesse Helms) to pass legislation that formed the 17-member Gold Commission, which was to study "the role of gold in the monetary system." Appointed by Reagan, Paul argued for a gold coin – "without a dollar denomination" – as legal tender.

"I wanted people to think of money as weight," he wrote.

In 1984, Paul ran for the U.S. Senate. When that bid failed, he returned full time to his medical practice.

Four years later, Paul won the Libertarian Party's presidential nomination. He placed third in the election, with less than 1 percent of the popular vote, but he now had a national base.

In 1997, Paul retired from medicine and returned to Congress; he's been there ever since. In 2008, he made his second run for president, this time as a Republican. He raised almost $35 million, including more than $6 million on Dec. 16, 2007, the anniversary of the Boston Tea Party.

Still, in the end, it was projected that he had amassed just 42 delegates.

The 2008 race also brought Paul's closest brush with scandal. A controversy arose over statements in his monthly newsletters – "if you have ever been robbed by a black teen-aged male, you know how unbelievably fleet-footed they can be"; Martin Luther King Jr. was a "pro-Communist philanderer"; "Homosexuals, not to speak of the rest of society, were far better off when social pressure forced them to hide their activities."

Paul denied writing the offending passages – they were, he said, the work of ghostwriters, though he acknowledged that he bore "some moral responsibility" for them. And he said he was not a detractor of King's – the civil rights leader was a champion of individual rights and one of his heroes.

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Now trotting sprightly along on two artificial knees, the high school sprinter has proved to be a steady long-distance runner. He placed a close second in the August Iowa straw poll, though he polls in single digits in most states.

The former fringe candidate is tapping into some mainstream anger. During a news conference at the Greenville airport, Paul – looking, as always, slightly rumpled in his workaday suit and sensible shoes – laughs when asked if throwing thousands of federal employees out of work in the current down economy is a good idea.

"Let `em go to work at McDonald's," he says, his brown eyes twinkling impishly beneath untamed eyebrows. "They should have a REAL job. Bureaucrats don't create wealth. They interfere with wealth production."

Downtown at the convention center, hundreds queue up for vinegary "eastern-style" barbecue, hush puppies, cole slaw and foam cups of sweet iced tea. One man sports a hat with a "REPEAL ObamaCare" button, while another wears a T-shirt cataloguing the supposed evils of fluoridated drinking water.

Paul's campaign takes pride in portraying him as a kind of Beltway Cassandra, ignored and marginalized by the "mainstream media." At the end of the food table sits a pile of business cards announcing Paul's latest "moneybomb" (the Oct. 19 drive raised more than $2.75 million) and daring news outlets to "BLACK THIS OUT!"

When the candidate arrives, the cheering crowd leaps to its feet. He then launches into a 33-minute, no-notes speech covering everything from 19th-century French economist Frederic Bastiat to the right to consume raw milk.

He speaks repeatedly of our "recession/depression" and says the "No. 1 cause" of the current financial crisis was the Federal Reserve.

"THEY are the ones who are responsible for so much suffering," he says, his already high-pitched voice rising to a near squeak. The Fed, he declares, is a "counterfeiter."

The crowd chants the title of one of Paul's books: "End the Fed! End the Fed!"

By speech's end, Todd Bennett, 45, of nearby Farmville, is sweating and hoarse.

"He's not the most charismatic man, by any stretch," says Bennett, a hospital supply courier and father of 10-year-old twin boys. "He's not got the greatest delivery by any stretch. But the words he says lights a fire in my soul. I'm ready to run through a brick wall for him."

Paul inspires that kind of devotion. But there are many naysayers, even among those who know him best. Jerry Paul, a retired Presbyterian minister and registered Democrat, says his brother "does not appreciate the depth" of human sinfulness and selfishness. He goes as far as to call Ron Paul's philosophy "kind of naive." Life is complicated, he suggests.

"Freedom, to me, really comes with responsibility ... to work together with others in the political realm, to work on behalf of the governed," he says. "That we're going to have a safety net ... Who else is going to do that, other than our political structure?"

The candidate freely acknowledges that the free market "is not perfect." But he says it adjusts for its mistakes.

"I think the people who assume that a few people in Washington, the bureaucrats and the politicians, know what's best for us, and we can trust them, that's being REALLY naive," he says.

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When late-night comedian Jon Stewart recently asked Paul why he keeps running, the representative replied: "I think if you plant a seed, it tends to grow."

Years ago, Paul says, a congressional colleague slipped a laminated piece of paper into his hand. It was a passage from Elie Wiesel's 1970 book, "One Generation After."

In it, a child asks the one "Just Man" why he walks the streets of Sodom railing against wickedness, when he knows it is hopeless. The man replies: "if I continue my protest, at least I will prevent others from changing me."

Paul can't recall who gave him the quote. But he still has it, tucked away with his House voting card.

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Allen G. Breed is a national writer, based in Raleigh, N.C. He can be reached at features(at)ap.org.

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MistryMan
From out of everywhere
12:46 PM on 02/02/2012
Interesting... Why is it that I either love or hate comments from this man. I respect Ron Paul, he takes his position without fear of ridicule, at least you know where he really stands, that being said, I can say I disagree with some of his positions, but I am comforted to know that his position is genuine. HE would be a great boss.
07:56 AM on 02/01/2012
For all that he probably has as many faults as any human being,at least he talks to his listeners like they're big people,instead of vomiting a litany of soundbites,homilies and cliches. All I can gather from his opponents is that they intend to defend the status quo,pretend all measures to do so aren't yielding diminishing returns,and scrap that pesky constitution and the limitations it puts on the high office once and for all. I don't understand the reluctance of America to even consider the possibility that the good doctor understands the root causes of this malaise and is correct in his diagnosis. Patient critical,shock remedy,within the laws only he seems to feel bound to uphold. It's kind of disheartening to see a land that was never scared of anything being timid about an old man whos greatest crime seems to be some negligence in the censorship department of a libertarian newsletter. Note to the "free" press who seem intent on making this his watergate-he has admitted a fondness for the first amendment.
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xeronius
Mostly Straight, LGBTQ Friendly
02:48 PM on 01/21/2012
‎"And that isn't the purpose of government. The purpose of government is exactly the opposite. The purpose of government is to protect our liberties."

While it is a romantic idea, what government in the history of the world has, as its purpose, set out with the goal (let alone soul goal) of protecting the liberties of its people. Sure, they pay lip service to that sort of things, but we only have the liberties that our rulers give us. We can call them inherent, god given, or any other such thing, but there is no guarantee that they will be recognized by individuals, groups, or governments here or abroad.

Man loses liberty when he lets any person rule over him. We give up liberty for security and... I think I think B. Franklin had a little something to say about that trade off...
03:19 PM on 12/15/2011
I disagree with the idea of Ron Paul lowering his wage to the average American wage. As American citizens, the presidency as a state job is valued at $400,000. I don't want a minimum wage worker to be the person who governs me. That would mean that I could simply govern myself, therefore why have a president at all? I value the presidency because the president works in passing legislation and works with foreign relations and all of the other responsibilities that he holds. It takes an extraordinary and certain type of person to hold a job of that kind of importance. He receives other contributions, but those are besides how much I, as a citizen, value his job. I want to pay the president the amount for which I value what he does. Paying him less would be an insult. The presidency is a much more difficult job than janitorial work. The president's job is well worth $400,000. He can do with that money whatever he wants, but lowering the amount he receives lowers the value we place on the presidency. He can do it for the honor of the position, I also want someone who really wants to be president, but there is a monetary value that we pay for that presidency that symbolizes our value for the position. This is a BS ploy to get votes that devalues the presidency. I don't want a minimum wage worker as president, I want the president as president.
10:59 AM on 12/16/2011
$40,000 is not minimum wage, it is the average wage. A 400k paycheck should not be a motivator for a person to run to this country; the founding fathers sure as heck did not get paid that. Being that a president is able to live in the whitehouse for four years, with all of the benefits of that lifestyle, the motivator for the job should be primarily goodwill- the job of president is an honor. It is scary how government officials can use their status to benefit themselves (bush's vp cheney+ fda Presidents and vps). It especially sickens me as most of the candidates are already significantly wealthy.
02:00 PM on 01/11/2012
Of course the founding fathers weren't paid as much, we were a brand new nation, essentially separate from one another, and with a bare, raw economy. The first presidents governed maybe a few million people, and back then the states were much stronger governing bodies than the central government. Since then, we have become a unionized nation, thus strengthening our central government and president. Maybe it would be a good idea to reconsider how powerful we want our central government to be, but let's pay them accordingly at least. Maybe we could pass a law saying that governing bodies can only receive money from tax payers and taxes, rather than kick downs from corporations.
04:37 PM on 12/16/2011
The highest minimum wage in the country would only make you a bit over $17,000 a year gross. LMAO. Out of touch a bit?
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BiznessLady
Stop the GOP/TP War on Women
03:59 PM on 12/14/2011
( Berettasskeeter:
Ultrasound is NO LONGER invasive, so your facts are in error to begin with. You spoke in the Present Tense!
NO ONE has proposed showing papers to enter cities. And, NO workers Rights are being rolled back. The Bill of Rights is still paramount. Workers have the right to work, or not. If they choose to work, they work at the employer's rules, or they leave. The whole notion of "workers' Rights" is nonsense on it's face, as we are protected by the Constitution. )

Early term ultrasounds (up to 12 weeks) are intra-vaginal. Being a woman and having been in the stirrups more times than I can count and having this procedure done on more then one occasion it is not enjoyable, they were also trying to force woman to see the film and hear the heartbeat if present.

If you don't know what is happening in Arizona, Wisconsin, Ohio, Indiana and other states then I suggest you start picking up a non-partisan newspaper or maybe just watch national news.
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onionboy
Blessed are the Cheese Makers
12:56 PM on 12/14/2011
I like many, though not all of Ron Paul's positions; but I cannot distance myself from his adoration of a group like the John Birch Society. I find their positions deplorable, yet Paul (a keynote speaker at their anniversary celebration just a few years ago) described them as "a great patriotic organization" and said, "I wish them continued success and endorse their untiring efforts...". I cannot disagree with him more and his support for such an organization is not a support I'd like to see in the oval office.

I know Paul supporters will want to jump all over me for this post, but instead of rote responses, please address (for my education if nothing else) his support for JBS and a decision to a keynote speaker...which I think occurred more than once. It boggles my mind.
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Wendy Davis
Banned!
02:29 PM on 12/14/2011
Ron Paul is not going to be president for the rest of time. If elected, he will be president for 4 years. Four years. In four years, if this man can stop the outsourcing of the US military at the expense of future generations and end the banking cartel's stranglehold of American, his mission would be accomplished. Frankly, if Ron Paul can do these 2 things - End the fed and end the wars - I don't care if he what else he does. These 2 issues are the most pressing at this point in time. Take a look at the alternatives. Obama is not the man he said he was. He is a liar and has an agenda that has nothing to do with American citizens living a better life. A legal regime to make indefinite detention legal is now coming out of Obama's mouth - That statement in itself is a stake in the heart of the freedom the forefathers fought and died for.
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onionboy
Blessed are the Cheese Makers
02:54 PM on 12/14/2011
I do care what else he does in four years, including eliminating civil rights legislation.
08:21 PM on 01/16/2012
Which JBS position do you find deplorable?
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onionboy
Blessed are the Cheese Makers
11:20 PM on 01/16/2012
Their primary position is that America should operate and was setup under fundamentalist Christian values. This is basically in their mission statement and in every core principle. Deplorable and (IMO) anti-American. They love the Constitution, except for some pesky parts of the 1st Amendment evidently.

They want some good old days back, that's for sure. Check out their leadership web page. You could have a point by point on some statements from a few of them, but the overall view of the page pretty much tells the entire story. White men represent about 31% of country, yet they represent 25 out of 25 of their leadership. They profess to be all about freedom. So, am I to believe that only white men care about freedom? Since that is the least oppressed group in the history of this country (and the world), that doesn't make a whole lot of sense.

And need I mention...the world-wide Communist conspiracy that WON'T go away after all these years? They still post stories on Communist agendas. It's ludicrous. This is one thing I'll agree with William F. Buckley about...JBS is a conservative extremist organization
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BiznessLady
Stop the GOP/TP War on Women
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BiznessLady
Stop the GOP/TP War on Women
01:06 AM on 12/14/2011
Great read for all those looking for information on Ron Paul and his personal feelings on race.

Google Ron's Paul Freedom Report

http://adamholland.blogspot.com/2011/05/unanswered-questions-why-ron-pauls.html
12:47 AM on 12/14/2011
Regarding Paul's choice not to accept Medicare, "People will pay as they can," scrub nurse Donna White, who later married her boss's youngest brother, recalls the doctor saying. "And if they can't, that's fine." This is the man who said churches should take care of the sick if the person can't afford treatment, and Paul allowed his campaign manager to die of cancer because the poor fool could not afford treatment. Why, because the manager could not afford health insurance. Why do you not offer health insurance to your campaign workers Paul?
11:14 AM on 01/07/2012
Kent dies of pneumonia, not cancer and it happened after Paul dropped out of the race in 08. Stop spreading disinformation.
03:20 PM on 01/07/2012
Could Kent afford health insurance? Did the Ron Paul "08" campaign provide heath insurance? NO. (By the way Mr. Snyder fell ill during Paul's campaign and died 2 weeks after Paul dropped out of the race.) Was Kent's mom left with $400,000 worth of medical bills? Did Snyder’s friends raise nearly $48,000 to help pay for bills, far short of the $400,000 necessary. YES. I imagine Paul and his libertarian supporters are fine with just letting a man like Kent die. Yeah! I have no problem allowing my tax dollars to be use to save the life of someone like Snyder, regardless of his politics, his support of issues I completely disagree with, and find immoral, or if I didn't personally like the man.
12:11 AM on 12/14/2011
Paul, why don't you announce all of congress will pay for their own healthcare insurance, and have their pensions converted to a 401k, like the rest of us. While you are at it Paul, apologize to the thousands of dedicated federal workers such as the nurses and doctors whom work at the Veteran Hospitals, and our men and women in the US Armed Services.
10:16 AM on 12/15/2011
Dr. Paul was a flight surgeon in Viet Nam - why would you be asking him to apologize to his peers?
And you do realize that Ron Paul doesn't participate in either the Congressional pension plan or the Congressional healthcare plan, right?
He also gives back his salary and over the last two years he gave back $100k and $140k of his Congressional administration budget.
I hear he also can fly and has heat vision.
(all but the last two are true - look them up)
03:20 PM on 01/07/2012
Paul should apologize because he has insulted the men and women of the military. Paul being a vet himself makes what he said all the more disgusting. Paul is a hypocrite, and an elitist.
03:41 PM on 01/07/2012
"And you do realize that Ron Paul doesn't participat­e in either the Congressio­nal pension plan or the Congressio­nal healthcare plan". Paul supporters have swallowed that false claim hook line and sinker.
09:13 PM on 12/13/2011
This is the best and most objective article I can recall reading in Huffpo. It's refreshing to read a conservative article for a change. Sounds like you guys are getting more balanced since the sale of the company. Keep up the great work. I also liked that the writer is from Raleigh, my home town!
12:13 AM on 12/14/2011
A conservative article? Is this how you see everything, conservative or liberal? How narrow minded you are.
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Muhtadi
08:53 PM on 12/13/2011
No more WARS???? Really? Who is this guy? Count me in!.. opps…that’s right.. Ron Paul apparently doesn’t support any fed legislation for (OR AGAINST) Gay Marriage.. which of course (according to the status quo calculations that I was programmed to repeat) means he must be anti-gay and should be burnt at the stake. Right?

Are you people kidding me????? Where are you PRIORITIES? No more preemptive wars or endless foreign entanglements??– SENSIBLE government policies for ONCE?… what is going on here??

Its like we are soooo against the “status quo” that we will take to the streets to scream… but in reality, when it really comes down to it, we love the status quo.. we all become conservatives – not in the fiscal sense, but on rejection of change. Despite our best efforts to rationalize this in our minds, in our hearts, we all know we got it pretty darn good right now… Too good in fact because it is not sustainable ..you are closer to the 1% than you realize.. all you have to do is take a step back at look at the rest of world instead of yourself.
12:15 AM on 12/14/2011
Yes and bring back the Gold Standard!! LOL. I am about as close to the 1% as you are to a rational thinker.
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Muhtadi
09:56 PM on 12/14/2011
Really? Free healthcare, free education, free housing, free food, free cash, a free a flat screen TV perhaps? A car? You obviously own (or at least your parents do) a computer with a monthly internet connection fee I can only imagine is enough to feed dozens of children every month around the world… yet.. of course… you think you identify closer to the 3 billion people on this planet who LITERALLY can’t go to the bathroom without having it run back into their food supply instead of the handful of people (the “1%”ers) who get all the same necessities as you do only they have to pay for theirs along with yours… you poor, poor thing..

I feel so bad for you. Next time I raise enough money to travel back to North Africa I will pass around a plate there in hopes I can raise enough funds to compensate your for your grievances.

Don’t worry .. I will not accept any gold in my collection plate – just Zimbabwean paper, the “gold standard” amongst corrupt government which we apparently you think we need more of.
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onlyonecandor
08:30 PM on 12/13/2011
The Senate just passed Senate Bill 1867, the National Defense Authorization Act of 2012. Most of those opposed to this horrible legislation are concentrating on just two sections, those being Sections 1031 and 1032. While Section 1031 allows for any American to be captured, held indefinitely without charge or trial, tortured or worse, the rest is not much better, and the entire bill should be scrapped immediately!

The government now holds the position that anyone who question what goes on in this country, or even anyone who question the government story line, are practicing terrorism.

What this means in real terms is that all dissenters, all truth tellers, all protesters, and all who question "authority," can in the eyes of government be captured and imprisoned indefinitely, and without benefit of trial. All of us who question what this government does and what its motives are, can now be hauled away to concentration camps, and even tortured or murdered, all under the umbrella of the law!

As for me, I question every single thing this government says and does, and I investigate most every government action. Because of this despicable legislation, what will become of the truth tellers? What will become of those of us who are unafraid to expose the lies and corruption? What will become of all of us?
02:27 PM on 12/13/2011
Again, gross distortions of the facts by typical HuffPo readers abound in these comments. Please educate yourselves before displaying your ignorance for the whole web to view.
12:50 PM on 12/13/2011
Google is your friend. Clarifying Ron Paul's positions:
Congressional Pensions - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Congressional_pension (2/3rds down the page)
Congressional Raises - http://www.smallgovtimes.com/2010/05/ron-paul-leads-charge-to-halt-congressional-pay-raise/
Limiting Congressional Pay - http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/politics/Pay-cut-letter.pdf