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For Families On Welfare, Few Protections From Theft And Fraud

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First Posted: 12/13/11 05:49 PM ET Updated: 12/14/11 02:53 AM ET

On a fall day in October 2009, Evelyn Carpio's wallet never left her side.

Yet criminals somehow managed to steal $720 from the card Carpio's family uses to obtain cash welfare assistance from California.

This kind of remote financial crime -- a practice known as financial information "skimming" -- is a real problem in the United States, according to federal officials. In 2009 alone, criminals stole $443 million though a combination of skimming, identity theft, and other types of financial crime investigated by federal officials. But for victims like Carpio, whose money was stolen from an electronic benefits transfer card (EBT) rather than a credit or debit card, getting that money back has also proved difficult. In Carpio's case, nearly two years passed before the state returned her stolen welfare benefits.

When it comes to stolen credit or debit cards, the rules are straightforward: Federal law requires banks to rapidly return, refund or remove all but $50 of any unauthorized or fraudulent activity on any card reported lost or stolen. If fraudulent charges are made on a debit card that was never lost or physically stolen, banks cannot hold the customer responsible for a single dollar. No such protections exist for EBT card users, even as government agencies across the country are moving to distribute a growing share of public assistance on EBT and other cards.

That lack of security places many of the country's poorest families at serious risk of financial upheaval.

Last week, Carpio filed suit against the California Department of Social Services in state court. She is not seeking compensation. Instead, Carpio aims to make the state replace welfare benefits stolen from an EBT card within five days of filing a police report and other required documents. Right now, California law requires DSS to replace lost or stolen welfare checks within five days if victims file a police report and meet other requirements. But cash welfare assistance is no longer distributed by check to the vast majority of poor families. They are instead issued via EBT card or direct deposit. So the law either needs an update or a new interpretation that includes EBT cards, advocates and Carpio's lawyers say.

"I realize now that I was really naive. I thought that once I proved what happened, brought them all the proof they asked for, DSS would just replace what was stolen," said Carpio, 34, a single working mother of five. "But that's not what happened at all."

Michael Weston, a spokesperson for the California Department of Social Services, declined to comment on Carpio's suit or the issues it raises.

Skimmers usually tamper with devices such as ATMs by installing cameras, software and other devices that record account information, PIN numbers or card data, according to the Secret Service. The agency is best known for protecting the President but also investigates certain types of large-scale financial crime.

In the late 1990s, when the federal government began to encourage states to provide food stamps and cash welfare assistance on EBT cards, states lobbied federal banking regulators to exempt EBT cards from laws that help debit and credit card holders who become victims of theft or fraud. The move to distribute public benefits electronically has created a multi-million dollar business opportunity for banks and other companies that secure contracts to provide EBT cards and ATM networks where the cards can be used.

The cards have also been regarded as a fiscally-responsible decision for states. State agencies have saved millions on check mailing and printing costs and, public officials say, the cards help to prevent fraud.

For EBT cardholders, the problem is that the public is often far more interested in welfare fraud committed by the poor than crimes perpetrated against them, advocates for low-income families say.

"What we have is a situation where cards used by the poorest people -- people for whom the loss of a couple of hundred dollars can have very, very serious consequences -- have zero protection," said Lauren Saunders, managing attorney for the National Consumer Law Center.

This week, Congress is expected to pass some version of a bill that will limit the places where EBT cards can be used, a direct response to concerns expressed by politicians such as Florida Governor Rick Scott and presidential candidate Newt Gingrich that welfare recipients frequently use public benefits on salacious non-necessities, luxury items, gambling and lifestyles where work isn't valued.

The federal bill, part of the unemployment benefits extension package, will require states to prevent EBT cards from functioning inside strip clubs, casinos and liquor stores. States that do not comply face federal penalties. Some states, including California, have already put such restrictions in place.

Last year, California restricted EBT card use in these locations after The Los Angles Times revealed that welfare recipients in California had pulled $4.8 million off of EBT cards in casinos over the course of nearly three and a half years. In that same period, low-income California residents pulled roughly $12,000 out of ATMs stationed at strip clubs. But half of these transactions took place in rural areas where access to ATMs is often limited, according to a data analysis by The Western Center on Law and Poverty.

"If we are going to implement regulation to say where people can't use their benefits, at the very least we should also make sure that those benefits are protected from theft," said Jessica Bartholow, a legislative advocate at the Western Center on Law and Poverty, a California organization that advocates for low-income families and researches policy matters related to poverty.

The U.S. Department of Health and Human Services does not track or measure EBT card-related theft nor does it direct or monitor the way that states react when money is reported stolen from these cards. Welfare programs are administered by the states so, they decide how thefts are handled, said Kenneth Wolfe, a spokesperson for the agency.

Anyone using an ATM or point of sale device at a store register should exercise extreme caution, said Max Milien, a spokesperson for the Secret Service. That means covering the keypad while using it, avoiding any device that appears to have been compromised, and canceling transactions at terminals that ask for a pin number more than once, Milien said. Account statements and balances should be checked regularly and ATMs with unusual signage should be avoided, said Milien.

The Secret Service also does not track the number of EBT cards that have been compromised by skimmers, but the cards are subject to many of the same risks as other types of cards, Milien said.

Vanessa Lee, a lawyer with Neighborhood Legal Services, a California nonprofit agency that represents low-income families in a variety of cases, filed the suit on Carpio's behalf to try to force California to apply the existing state law governing lost or stolen checks to thefts involving EBT cards.

"We're simply asking that the law be consistently interpreted within the context that welfare benefits are actually paid," said Lee. "In this case, the state didn’t even replace her card, even though it had clearly been compromised, until it stopped working months later because it was accidentally demagnetized."

In 2009 after Carpio discovered that money was missing from her benefits card, she filed a police report. County-level welfare officials also asked her to file an affidavit. In it, she swore that she had nothing to do with the crime and did not know the people who took her benefits. Welfare office staff even asked Carpio to obtain photos of the criminals using her account information at a bank ATM about 20 miles from her Van Nuys, Calif home. She did so with the help of the police, but her request to have her stolen benefits replaced was still denied.

After several appeals, California replaced Carpio's benefits in May. But in the interim, Carpio had to borrow money from her sister to pay her utilities, cover her rent and other basic needs. Carpio had to pay back her sister as soon as her own tax return arrived. Carpio's sister also needed the money.

"It wasn't an easy thing to just manage," said Carpio. "It was really a struggle."

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On a fall day in October 2009, Evelyn Carpio's wallet never left her side. Yet criminals somehow managed to steal $720 from the card Carpio's family uses to obtain cash welfare assistance from Ca...
On a fall day in October 2009, Evelyn Carpio's wallet never left her side. Yet criminals somehow managed to steal $720 from the card Carpio's family uses to obtain cash welfare assistance from Ca...
 
 
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TALLTHUNDER7
08:36 PM on 12/17/2011
My Reply to “des946”: Did you notice that in the third line of your comment (the one following your derision—stating that “Ignorance…[is a choice] of those who do not care to be enlightened” )—your third line beginning with: “By ther own volition”? Should we presume, (whereas “ignorance” is apparently a character flaw, that by your—volitionally “enlightened”—standard) you wrote “ther own” to be understood literally—or by your own uncharitable opinion—that it is an indelible failure of your character? In your own “enlightened” and flawless world (if its populace is of a number greater than one (1)) do they/you always slur your/their enunciation? If one, e.g., suffers a stroke that results in dementia or if one suffers from a traumatic brain injury or a childhood trauma or a circumstance that causes a severe incapacitation; or suffers from governmental or judicial hubris that leads to poverty or homelessness would it be okay for someone to deny such people (like Ms. Carpio or Ms. Richter, in Ms. Ross’ 11-25-2011 article—who may, by edict, resort to using Electronic Benefits Transfer (EBT) cards, the same dignity accorded to “enlightened” people (presumably like yourself) who can still use credit or debit cards?
04:28 AM on 12/16/2011
Let's audit EBT card use first. Analyze each purchase for purchases representing goods above and beyond the basics. Are they buying prime rib, lobster, fancy cakes with EBT cards? If so, that is fraud. Taxpayers don't permit others to take their money so they can live it up. Read about the pig who bought "cupcake wreaths" - an expensive item - with an EBT card. Is that why we given them money?
03:55 AM on 12/16/2011
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11:32 PM on 12/15/2011
Why isn't the US banking industry taking of advantage of the anti-fraud chip technology used in Europe and Canada?
10:06 PM on 12/15/2011
I have a good job and 2 years ago I was on food stamps, I hurt myself at home, I had health insurance so I didn't lose everything, in my profession we don't have sick time. So if you're sick and it isn't work related, you are out of luck and yes I own a nice truck. Just because someones on foodstamps and has a nice vehicle doesn't mean they don't need the help and it isn't legitimate. Until the day I hit myself in the hand with a hatchet, I would have never thought I'd have been on foodstamps. 2 surgeries latter myhand is useful again. I won't ever again empty my savings to pay off a bill, a week later I could have used that savings. Scammers are constantly coming up with new ways to steal, why should ebt benefits be any different than my debit card.
06:04 PM on 12/15/2011
So I'm at work today and this lady comes through my line with these two GIANT cupcake wreathes. They were really pretty. I'm thinking in my head "wow those are going to be expensive" after i compliment her on how pretty they are and how neat they are she pays for the $80 total with an EBT card. Pissed me of SO bad. Some regulations for these things need to be put into place NOW and I would like to know how to get something started in order to put regulations on them. The entire country is up to its eyeballs in debt and tax dollars just paid for her holiday party. Something needs to be done today!
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Rus Viking
"The opposite of courage, is conformity."
07:43 AM on 12/16/2011
Take care of the pennies and the dollars will take care of themselves.
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BigWillyG
05:17 PM on 12/15/2011
You'd think the state would be on this since they're who's getting defrauded. The person holding the EBT card is only using tax payer money by the grace of the state. They don't own any of that money.
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amd02148
06:47 PM on 12/15/2011
BigWillyG instead of being negative and nasty you should count your lucky stars, you don't have to use food stamps.
04:25 AM on 12/16/2011
Maybe yuo should be a little concerned that those people who are paying for the EBT cards given to others aren't being used in a conservative manner by the holders. Does an EBT user really deserve "cupcake wreaths" and prime rib?
01:29 PM on 12/15/2011
People who haven't earned their money are concerned that their money will be taken by someone ELSE who hasn't earned it.

Ah, the irony...
11:19 AM on 12/15/2011
I'm surprised the bank (Wells Fargo, I think) that handles the EBT cards doesn't offer theft protection or emergency loans to cover while recipiants try to recover stolen funds...for a small fee, of course.
08:28 AM on 12/15/2011
LOL.

Only in California do you sue the state over welfare benefits that were given to you by the state. Good lord.
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Jennifer Zirn
Agree to disagree.
11:04 PM on 12/14/2011
There are many reasons why someone would be on welfare. Not everyone on it is trying to scam the system. Maybe the parent(s) lost their job and need some help while looking for another, maybe a relative is taking in another's child(ren) because the parent(s) have died, or maybe they don't have a high paying job, like lot of people on here think that everyone should have.

Not everyone can go to college, they may had to get a job to help their parents keep their house. Not everyone is smart or eager enough to go to college.

If everyone had a high paying job, to be able to support their family, who would wait on you in restaurants, grocery stores, clean building and house, or even teach your children? Maybe you shouldn't be judging the system but the cost of living and minimum wage, which isn't enough to even support one person.
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Dadfirst
Reasonable comments in an unreasonable world
10:27 PM on 12/14/2011
I didn't know what this card was when I saw a lady using it at 7-11 the other day. She used it to buy various cookies, candies and soda's while using cash to buy lottery tickets and cigarettes. Glad we could help.
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seegray
Nobody can bring you peace but yourself (Emerson)
10:30 PM on 12/14/2011
Ya know how we know you're story is bs? You couldn't stop at a reasonable amount of stuff, you had to keep piling it on....just a tip for future "stories" of yours.
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Dadfirst
Reasonable comments in an unreasonable world
10:44 PM on 12/14/2011
Complete truth.
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Peter Combs
Amused by the illogical..no, NOT a Republican
11:27 PM on 12/14/2011
Hardly a BS story...I have friends who own local vareity stores and small markets, happens every single day...
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BigWillyG
05:12 PM on 12/15/2011
I saw that everyday when I worked at a grocery store in high school. Gets worse when you put those groceries you just packed into a brand new high end car.
09:47 PM on 12/14/2011
Why not have a card with the person's picture and date of birth? Secondly you have to show a valid State I.D or Drivers License with each use. (THEY ARE USED AT THE CLUB WHEN BUYING DRINKS SO THAT SHOULD NOT BE A PROBLEM IN HAVING VALID IDENTIFICATION FOR OTHER USES). Maybe even the number of dependents on the card to concur with the amount of assistance being deposited into the account. This is not perfect, but it might help. Another answer could be several checkout lines only for those cards, and management checks daily for skimmers and documents it with security.
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Mythoughts808
09:10 PM on 12/14/2011
Well it won't be long till the welfare system hustlers will be giving each other their cards to use and then claim them stolen. Soon we will be paying the welfare people 2 times a month. First their 1 check and then after they give it to someone to use for them, they will claim it stolen and get the second one.....
Stop paying these pierced up tattoo covered, can not even speak properly or follow the decent rules of keeping their free houses clean with unbroken windows $ money for every freaking kid they continue to pop out for cash. The rule makers need to wise up before they destroy everything.
This excludes the good decent people who struggle and need welfare. The ones that don't harrass you when you walk by, or destroy the neighborhoods. But you too should not pop out lots of children you can't afford to take care of with your own money. Wise up and own up to your own lifes and your own decisions.
01:34 PM on 12/15/2011
Ditto..!
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BigWillyG
05:14 PM on 12/15/2011
Pretty sure that's already happening.
07:44 PM on 12/14/2011
How many dependants do you have to have to get $720.. Wish I had an 'extra' $100 to spend on food a month. That's a house payment..! Scrubbing bubbles.. WE work hard.. so THEY don't have to..
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amd02148
08:29 PM on 12/14/2011
jez did it ever occur to your small mind that the woman is thrifty and saves her money?
08:48 PM on 12/14/2011
You do not ADD money to an ebt card.. it is filled by the government, so I highly doubt she is thrifty and 'saves' her money. Read the whole story and see where else these 'free food/money from the government' cards have been used, cruise ships, strip clubs..? Come on..
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Peter Combs
Amused by the illogical..no, NOT a Republican
11:28 PM on 12/14/2011
EBT Cards cannot be deposited into by the user...