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National Defense Authorization Act: $662 Billion Bill Nears Passage After Obama Abandons Veto Threat

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DONNA CASSATA   12/15/11 05:32 PM ET   AP

WASHINGTON — Congress passed a massive $662 billion defense bill Thursday after months of wrangling over how to handle captured terrorist suspects without violating Americans' constitutional rights.

A last-minute compromise produced a truce but lawmakers said the fight's not over.

The Senate voted 86-13 for the measure and will send it to President Barack Obama for his signature. The bill would authorize money for military personnel, weapons systems, the wars in Afghanistan and Iraq and national security programs in the Energy Department for the fiscal year beginning Oct. 1. The legislation is $27 billion less than Obama wanted and $43 billion less than Congress gave the Pentagon this year, a reflection of deficit-driven federal budgets, the end of the Iraq war and the drawdown in Afghanistan.

In a rare show of bipartisanship, the House voted 283-136 for the measure late Wednesday. Sen. John McCain of Arizona, the senior Republican on the Armed Services Committee, said Thursday the cooperation was a "little ray of sunshine" in a bitterly divided Washington.

The comment belied a fierce struggle over provisions on suspected terrorists that have pitted the White House against Congress, divided Republicans and Democrats and drawn the wrath of civil rights groups. The White House initially threatened to veto the legislation but dropped that warning late Wednesday, saying last-minute congressional changes no longer challenge the president's ability to prosecute the war on terror.

Two provisions have created the most controversy.

One would require military custody for foreign terrorist suspects linked to al-Qaida or its affiliates and involved in plotting or attacking the United States. The suspects could be transferred to civilian custody for trial, and the president would have final say on determining how the transfer would occur. Under pressure from Obama and his national security team, lawmakers added language that says nothing in the bill may be "construed to affect the existing criminal enforcement and national security authorities of the Federal Bureau of Investigation or any other domestic law enforcement agency with regard to a covered person, regardless whether such covered person is held in military custody."

The attorney general, in consultation with the defense secretary, would decide on whether to try the individual in federal court or by military tribunal. The president could waive the entire requirement based on national security.

The second provision would deny suspected terrorists, including U.S. citizens seized within the nation's borders, the right to trial and subject them to indefinite detention. It reaffirms the post-Sept. 11 authorization for the use of military force that allows indefinite detention of enemy combatants. The provision includes a Senate-passed compromise that says nothing in the legislation may be "construed to affect existing law or authorities relating to the detention of United States citizens, lawful resident aliens of the United States, or any other persons who are captured or arrested in the United States."

Conservative Republicans, Democrats and civil rights groups have warned that the provision would allow the government to hold U.S. citizens indefinitely.

"If these provisions deny American citizens their due process rights under a new, nebulous set of directives, it not only would make us less safe, but it will serve as an unprecedented threat to our constitutional liberties," said Sen. Mark Udall, D-Colo.

Senate Intelligence Committee Chairwoman Dianne Feinstein, D-Calif., said she and several other lawmakers, including Judiciary Committee Chairman Pat Leahy, D-Vt., would introduce legislation to ensure that no U.S. citizen is held indefinitely without trial.

The sponsors of the defense bill challenged the criticism.

"Those who say that we have written into law a new authority to detain American citizens until the end of hostilities are wrong," said Senate Armed Services Committee Chairman Carl Levin, D-Mich.

Citing the courts, Levin has repeatedly pointed out that a June 2004 Supreme Court decision, in a case called Hamdi v. Rumsfeld, said U.S. citizens can be detained indefinitely.

"I believe that if an American citizen joins a foreign army or a hostile force like al-Qaida that has declared war and organized a war against us and attacks us, that that person can be captured and detained as an enemy combatant under the law of war," the senator said.

Said McCain: "The language in this bill will not affect any Americans engaging in the pursuits of their constitutional rights."

Agitating for a power-sharing role in the war on terror, Congress had pushed the bill into an escalating fight over whether to treat suspects as prisoners of war or as criminals.

The Obama administration insists that the military, law enforcement and intelligence officials need flexibility in the campaign against terrorism. Obama points to his administration's successes in killing Osama bin Laden and Anwar al-Awlaki, the U.S.-born radical Islamic cleric. Republicans counter that their efforts are necessary to respond to an evolving, post-Sept. 11 threat and that Obama has failed to produce a consistent policy on handling terror suspects.

Among other elements of the bill, it would:

_Impose tough new penalties on Iran, targeting foreign financial institutions that do business with the country's central bank. The president could waive those penalties if he notifies Congress that it's in the interest of national security.

_Freeze $700 million in funding for Pakistan until the defense secretary provides Congress a report on how Islamabad is countering the threat of improvised explosive devices.

_Require the contractor of the troubled F-35 Joint Strike Fighter aircraft program, Lockheed Martin, to cover extra costs on future purchases of the aircraft. Congress is frustrated with delays and cost overruns in the program.

The Pentagon envisions buying 2,443 planes for the Air Force, Marine Corps and Navy, but the $1 trillion price could make it the most expensive program in military history.

In a lengthy speech on the "military-industrial-congressional complex," McCain railed against the program and the decision to develop and integrate its critical technologies

"Experts call what the Pentagon has been trying to do here `concurrent development.' I call it a mess," McCain said.

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pepper1311
POGS are dirt
10:25 AM on 12/21/2011
dammed if he does dammed if he doesn’t. cut the military and unemployment goes up.
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GhostOfFDR
You're on the slippery slope to socialism
08:45 PM on 12/18/2011
http://wh.gov/jeY is the veto petition. At least it gives us something point at when he ignores us.
02:07 PM on 12/16/2011
Obama is not a leader...apparently he does not have any "FIRM" ideals...he is all give it up...I hope the Dem Party fires him as a candidate and promotes Hilary Clinton...
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radiojunkie
tune addict
08:53 AM on 12/18/2011
HRC voted for the Patriot Act
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yeti7
not bigfoot
11:50 AM on 12/20/2011
So did Obama
01:09 PM on 12/16/2011
This is scary as heck that it has passed and Obama will sign it. MSM is not reporting on it, either, of course. People of all religions, ages, races, political opinions should write the White House and protest. And it is throwing out the Bill of Rights. They can hold anyone suspected of anything indefinitely, without charges.
09:16 PM on 12/17/2011
The truth is that nobody really cares about freedom anymore but I think they used to a long time ago. Freedom is too hard for a lazy addicted USA. Don't count on anyone doing anything about this because it just isn't going to happen. Your false illusion of liberty, freedom and justice is over and you all will now complacently accept it and watch another Kardashian episode.
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radiojunkie
tune addict
09:00 AM on 12/18/2011
Don't forget about the plurality of scared Americans who demand military tribunals for terrorists. They're not as lazy as they want to hate.
01:03 PM on 12/16/2011
I saw a very interesting interpretation of the NDAA from volutnaryist Adam Kokesh. He doesn't think that the NDAA is that big of a deal. You should go tell him if he's right or wrong:

http://youtu.be/Qlepy8WjGIk

It's an interesting perspective to be sure.
09:55 AM on 12/16/2011
We need to be certain as to just WHO is doing the "interpreting" here, as this bill seems destined to test the resolve of the American people and their First Ammendment Rights. The notion of "indeffinte detention" should arouse images of the old Soviet labor camps and modern day Communist China. Under the "auspices" of protection, America continues to slowly whittle away at the basic rights of
her citizens. As an expert in Constitutional Law, our President must take great pains to allow freedom (not paranoia) to rule a sensible people.
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TomTheSeal
Represent our wishes; best interests are arguable
08:20 PM on 12/15/2011
The wording, and interpretation, of these laws is very important.

For example, the 14th amendment to the U.S. Constitution was intended to aid freed slaves after the Civil War. Now, however, it is used as the infamous "anchor baby" amendment that erroneously gives citizenship to babies born on U.S. soil to illegals - NOT what it was intended for, but, nonetheless is used against the people of the United States by Democrats who want more votes from the working class and by Republicans who want cheap labor for their businesses.

The biggest problem we face today is a runaway, rogue, unconstitutional government in Washington, D.C. that NO ONE TRUSTS anymore.

We are facing a Constitutional Crisis of the most severe kind, yet, there is no convening of both houses of Congress to deal with it. And there won't be.

We have been conquered without a shot being fired and this problem can not be fixed for we have to rely on those who conquered us to fix it and they are not going to ever do that.

Our only legal and peaceful recourse is for the people in all 50 states to VOTE to SECEDE from this hijacked government and replace it with a new one.

50 State Secession !
Freedom !
A NEW United States of America !
Led by a NEW government !
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darkhornetxiii
I should stop expecting too much!
11:23 PM on 12/15/2011
or just kick every one of them out of office the cance is comming soon! I won't forget this betrayal
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yeti7
not bigfoot
11:54 AM on 12/20/2011
What about all the laws and regs already out there?. It humanly impossible for one person to read all of these much less understand them. Scrap them all and do a "reboot" with some old fashion common sense. Tax codes first.
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Charles Queen
I am a disabled nam vet
06:56 PM on 12/15/2011
Good cause I was all for it to begin with anyway's.As for that inider trading thing,seems they have to make another new law specifying that members of congress,the senate etc are also liable under the securitie's and exgchage fauds law.Until now it was just us regular people.What a crok,I still say they should be held accountable and punished the same as they would punish you or me for doing what they did and to the person who said Pelosi was not involved,you';r way wrong,ya she was involved in it along with the others
01:10 PM on 12/16/2011
They are all, but a handful, involved in it. But they control things and have the military to back them up. And now it is law. That is extremely scary.
05:52 PM on 12/15/2011
re: 'the second provision'. When I was in the Army, it was taught that the 'Nuremberg Defense' would NOT work for any Soldier that followed an illegal order. It might pass Congress, the Senate, and Obama, but it WILL NOT pass the sniff test.
Woe unto anyone that tries to enforce it.
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TomTheSeal
Represent our wishes; best interests are arguable
08:24 PM on 12/15/2011
Our government no longer enforces the laws it doesn't like and will not allow the prosecution of anyone following an illegal order.

The entire system is broken beyond repair and nothing about it works any longer.

50 State Secession !
09:34 PM on 12/15/2011
you don't understand they got u.n. violence keepers to do the dirty work
05:25 PM on 12/15/2011
This article is still buried and stagnating when it should be exploding in headlines nation-wide.
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greenj76
04:57 PM on 12/15/2011
They just signed in the beginning of the 7 year tribulation. Revelation 18 foretells of a one world economic structure that will be in place in the last half of the seven year Tribulation period and it will be headquartered in Babylon located in modern-day Iraq. The world leader - the Antichrist - will require all who want to buy or sell, in other words, to sustain life, they will be required to have an identification mark on their forehead or the back of their hand (Revelation 13:16-17). It seems very possible that a worldwide economic crisis could cause humankind to take this mark under an economic global governance. Bible prophecy will be fulfilled.
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Sunwyn Ravenwood
Farewell my friends, time to go...
11:38 PM on 12/15/2011
Stop babbling nonsense freak and go back in your cave. This is serious business and we don't need the lunatic fringe butting in.
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yeti7
not bigfoot
01:27 PM on 12/20/2011
Sunwyn0--You run this place or something ?
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GhostOfFDR
You're on the slippery slope to socialism
07:12 PM on 12/18/2011
Yes, it's not like people professing to be Christians are requiring us all to obtain such a mark in order to vote, is it?

(BTW, the Revelation prophesizes the fall of Rome when Christ returns. Like most other things Christians tend not to notice when prophecy fails.)
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GhostOfFDR
You're on the slippery slope to socialism
08:54 PM on 12/18/2011
Although a beast with seven heads does sound like any of the 500 Republican debates we've had in the last couple months.
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yeti7
not bigfoot
01:28 PM on 12/20/2011
The world is full of false Christians. As well as other religion followers.
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spikedawg71
No use for leaders, I don't need to be led
04:50 PM on 12/15/2011
I hope any delusions you may have had about Obama being a good president are done. He has sold us out across the board, stealing our money, destroying our rights, authorizing military force against his own people. If you aren't awakened and outraged now, not much hope at all for you
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anitaroosevelt
want some Ayn Rand with those fries?
06:47 PM on 12/16/2011
Ok. Who should we vote for that isn't worse?

This is a serious question. I've been looking for a candidate that represents both the American people and the Constitution instead of Wall Street and I can't find one.
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spikedawg71
No use for leaders, I don't need to be led
07:36 AM on 12/20/2011
Their preselected and marketed, seen Obama n Clinton as kids in govt commercials as teens, must be something to that. .....Who to vote for? At this point the Bill of rights and Constitution need representation and prosecution of corruption by both political parties and wall street. I disagree with bailout, interest is too much, we need to default now and restructure. Iceland is a good example, though it's size is obviously smaller. But we have all the resources and people needed to rebound
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yeti7
not bigfoot
12:02 PM on 12/20/2011
well the present one isn't helping matters so I think we need new blood.
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GhostOfFDR
You're on the slippery slope to socialism
08:55 PM on 12/18/2011
Yep, he's awful. But McCain would have been worse, so what can you do? Obama's turning himself into Mussolini. Are you suggesting we need to elect Hitler?
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spikedawg71
No use for leaders, I don't need to be led
07:24 AM on 12/20/2011
I always felt McCain threw the election, picking Palin knowing she's a hick with a big mouth, told me he's not serious......I wish I did have an answer tho, definately helps anyway to have one eh?. lol Best advice, keep your eyes open, your ears open question everything!
04:32 PM on 12/15/2011
SOON , IF YOU PROTEST THE GOVERNMENT , YOU WILL BE LABLED AN ENEMY COMBATANT AND WILL BE JAILED BY THE MILLITARY WHEN THEY COME OUT TO DISPERSE AMERICANS PROTESTING THIER GOVERNMENT, AND AT THAT POINT YOU WILL HAVE NO RIGHTS OR REPRESENTATION BY ATTORNEYS. ANYONE WHO THINKS OTHERWISE IS A DAMN FOOL AND PROBABLY VOTED FOR OSAMA I MEAN OBAMA !
04:29 PM on 12/15/2011
RON PAUL 2012 . YOU KNOW HE WILL REPEAL THIS LAW AND THE BULLSHIT PATRIOT LAW AS WELL.
01:13 PM on 12/16/2011
I just might, tho I am against half the things he is for. Why does he want to get rid of SS and Medicare? Why against women's right to choose?

I do believe he'd get us out of endless war, tho.
04:36 PM on 12/16/2011
get rid of those things cause the rest of congress just use's those things as bait for the rest of the world to come here and free load. look at the massive amounts of illegals here already that are getting assistance everyday americans could not get. the point is we as a society need to rely more on family and church .and eachother , stop waiting for a hand out from the gov cause all thier doing is giving it away to other nationals or countries. we have to get rid of almost every gov program and rebuild all of them from scratch and do it right this time and limit the amount of help each department can give so as to not seem inviting for foreign nationals to come and live off of the social tit programs .
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yeti7
not bigfoot
01:10 PM on 12/20/2011
right to choose what?
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GhostOfFDR
You're on the slippery slope to socialism
08:58 PM on 12/18/2011
I'd like to go back to about 1980. Ron Paul wants to go back to 1835. I guess there's no such thing as a moderate anymore.
05:59 PM on 12/23/2011
I think it is WEIRD you said 1835...because that is the LAST time we had no national debt and a balanced budget.
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Sock Monkey
Deceive. Inveigle. Obfuscate. The DC mantra.
03:26 PM on 12/15/2011
Interestingly enough the Bill of Rights is 220 years old TODAY.

Ironic that they'd pass this bill on this very day ? Yes.

Coincidence ? Not a chance in hell.